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View Poll Results: If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. 5 5.56%
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. 2 2.22%
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") 30 33.33%
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. 12 13.33%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration 6 6.67%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. 30 33.33%
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) 5 5.56%
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Old 11-21-2020, 06:06 PM   #401
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The proTrump protest in Atlanta is also saying if Republicans don't help Trump steal the election they will withhold support for Republicans, especially in the runoff...

Oh no....

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Old 11-21-2020, 06:59 PM   #402
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The proTrump protest in Atlanta is also saying if Republicans don't help Trump steal the election they will withhold support for Republicans, especially in the runoff...

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See, I read that as something far more troubling: "we will no longer support any Republican who isn't all-in for Trumpism."
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Old 11-21-2020, 07:07 PM   #403
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One thing I have thought: couldn't this full on attack on the election system actually dissuade Trumpers from voting making it seem futile?



I think it'll turn Republican Primaries into a Trump loyalty test.

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Old 11-21-2020, 07:26 PM   #404
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It already is, Ben.

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Old 11-21-2020, 08:01 PM   #405
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:11 PM   #406
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Kelly Loeffler may or may not have Covid. Is in isolation. Spent all day yesterday with Pence.

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Old 11-21-2020, 09:29 PM   #407
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Rick Scott is also positive and he was in GA recently. Not sure if he was with her specifically though.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:35 PM   #408
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Trump is asking for another recount has in Georgia. He gets to lose Georgia yet again.

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Old 11-21-2020, 10:07 PM   #409
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The mid-80s Braves didn't lose this much in Georgia.
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Old 11-22-2020, 07:54 AM   #410
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:59 AM   #411
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When you've lost Chris Christie...
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When you've lost Chris Christie...

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Old 11-22-2020, 09:58 AM   #413
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:44 AM   #414
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Kemp is a loyal Trumpist. Because he refuses to break the law for Dear Leader:
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:02 AM   #415
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Kemp is a loyal Trumpist. Because he refuses to break the law for Dear Leader:

It's funny because Chavez died almost ten years ago. Yet another right-wing claim that the leftist liberal socialists have time machines they use to embarrass the right.

HUGO CHAVEZ LAID A PLOT TO STEAL THE ELECTION FROM ME.

...Really? more than a decade before you were anything but a laughingstock politically, he knew you'd be President, running for re-election, and that the only way you'd lose is if he, Hugo Chavez, reached out from beyond the grave to bitchslap your ass?
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Old 11-22-2020, 12:18 PM   #416
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It's funny because Chavez died almost ten years ago. Yet another right-wing claim that the leftist liberal socialists have time machines they use to embarrass the right.

HUGO CHAVEZ LAID A PLOT TO STEAL THE ELECTION FROM ME.

...Really? more than a decade before you were anything but a laughingstock politically, he knew you'd be President, running for re-election, and that the only way you'd lose is if he, Hugo Chavez, reached out from beyond the grave to bitchslap your ass?

The redacted portions of the Mueller investigation lays out how Stalin stole the 2016 election from Dems.
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At what point can action be taken, other than judges tossing these cases out, to curb this nonsense. There has to be some repercussions for this. no?
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Old 11-22-2020, 01:20 PM   #418
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At what point can action be taken, other than judges tossing these cases out, to curb this nonsense. There has to be some repercussions for this. no?

He’s never faced consequences for his actions; I’m hoping after inauguration they throw the book at him (and his family). I hope the lawyers he uses are just as incompetent.
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He’s never faced consequences for his actions; I’m hoping after inauguration they throw the book at him (and his family). I hope the lawyers he uses are just as incompetent.

I mean the lawyers who are obviously wasting everyones time and money.
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and not a single elected Republican in Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Georgia is going to hesitate to get in front of a bible to be sworn in asap. Because, of course, their votes were legit.
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Meanwhile, there are growing number of Republican congressional candidats that lost their elections by 40+ points now claiming their elections were stolen as well.

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Old 11-22-2020, 04:36 PM   #423
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What an embarrassing disaster.
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They have trained almost half the country to not believe their own eyes and ears.
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Old 11-22-2020, 05:33 PM   #426
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Old 11-22-2020, 06:04 PM   #427
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Old 11-22-2020, 06:14 PM   #428
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I guess I'm always weirdly optimistic, but I hope Trump keeps fighting this. We might never get that 38% back, but the real fight is for enough of that 10% that (a) Trump can't win in 2024, & that the GOP power guard realizes just how dangerous it is to align behind an uncontrollable loose cannon. The more that Trump attacks people like Brian Kemp the better, and the more that his "team" can't stop at saying "election machines were hacked, number dump, technical talk" & feels compelled to add "fronted by a 3rd world dictator who died a decade ago" let's go!

I still very much agree Biden has played this close to perfectly, (and unlike some I never had doubt actual judges & the US Military would be professional), but I do hope as this starts going the liberal part of the media starts incessantly asking every elected Republican to go on the record if this election was stolen or not (and if it's in doubt why they're taking the oath of office) because the more you get on the record giving less than unconditional support for Trump, the more people he'll personally target.

That goes tenfold for people covering the Georgia races... There absolutely are people who will boycott the runoff if they think the GoP duo aren't being loyal enough to Trump, it can't be the Democratic party pointing it out, just get those two on the record agreeing to be as far "left-wing" as Brian Kemp & the GA SecState. Shucks, ask them if they will boycott the primary if they don't also hold a re-vote on Trump vs Biden, some people will get mad when they say no!
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Old 11-22-2020, 06:47 PM   #430
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It seems at least 50/50 that the state board in MI will refuse to certify the election tomorrow and then it will go to the MI Supreme Court.

I still think a coup can't happen, but they keep trying.
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JPhillips, I do think it will end up in court either way, but the SOS dies also have the option to fire whoever voted against verification. Don't know she will go that route, but she can.

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JPhillips, I do think it will end up in court either way, but the SOS dies also have the option to fire whoever voted against verification. Don't know she will go that route, but she can.

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Would that invalidate the vote, though?
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Is she the first person too crazy even for Trump?
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Would that invalidate the vote, though?
First of all, it is "does" not "dies". Sorry for the many typos. And in answer your question, no. It would most likely be legally challenged either way, but she does have the authority to remove someone for not doing their legally mandated job.

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Is she the first person too crazy even for Trump?

My guess is McConnell got in his ear on that one, he really can't afford to have Georgia voters disenfranchised.
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You mean, he can't afford to have Georgia voters duped into disenfranchising themselves?
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:34 PM   #438
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Sounds like one of the GOP members of the Michigan canvassing board wants to take public comments before a vote. I read somewhere nearly 800 people have signed up to comment.

Good luck with that
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Yeah, that will devolve into a shit show, nothing will change, just validate it so we can drive one more nail into this nightmare election
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It sounds like he wants to hear a lot of people to say he has no choice but to certify, so that he has a defense for fellow Republicans. That's what he's getting.
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It sounds like he wants to hear a lot of people to say he has no choice but to certify, so that he has a defense for fellow Republicans. That's what he's getting.

Could also be that he may want to hear a lot saying he should not, so he has an excuse to hold it up. It will be interesting to see the demographic that turns out for this.
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Could also be that he may want to hear a lot saying he should not, so he has an excuse to hold it up. It will be interesting to see the demographic that turns out for this.

Considering people with an axe to grind in general are way more likely to come forward than those fine with a result ...
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You guys realize the meeting is streaming live, right? I didn't make that comment randomly. I've been watching the whole thing.

I've heard more people say it should be certified than say it shouldn't. The one Republican who has already said no has been making moronic comments throughout, supporting people who come by with wild conspiracies and trolling some people who ask for certification. The only time I've heard the other Republican speak up is when he's asked if there is any legal basis to not certify.
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They have it on CSPAN. I've just heard some state reps thus far who want it certified and one former rep complaining about Dominion.
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You guys realize the meeting is streaming live, right? I didn't make that comment randomly. I've been watching the whole thing.

I've heard more people say it should be certified than say it shouldn't. The one Republican who has already said no has been making moronic comments throughout, supporting people who come by with wild conspiracies and trolling some people who ask for certification. The only time I've heard the other Republican speak up is when he's asked if there is any legal basis to not certify.
I'm watching it now. What I've heard so far doesn't make it sound like they're letting many random nitwits through. Three have read well thought-out written statements, and the fourth was an election poll worker saying that things were solid. All four requested certification and expressed faith that the counting was done properly.
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It's also quite a reflection on how COVID has changed our culture: I'm now on voter #5. All appear to have been upper 50s/lower 60s and older. None seem to have any problem handling a Zoom meeting.
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Dang. Upper 50s/lower 60s white female who lives in Detroit. Short version: "All of my fellow white people who moved out of here to the suburbs, if you wanted to influence the votes of Detroit, you shouldn't have moved away."
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It will be interesting to see the demographic that turns out for this.
Larry, is the demographic I'm seeing so far reflective of the rest of the meeting? Mostly white and older?
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Heh. MAGA ain't happy with this meeting...

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Larry, is the demographic I'm seeing so far reflective of the rest of the meeting? Mostly white and older?

Pretty much, yes. Many of them are county clerks for various counties throughout the state, so that probably is the typical demo for that job. I've missed a few people speaking, but the craziest so far was the guy spouting Dominion nonsense.
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