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Old 09-26-2016, 09:02 PM   #2501
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What's the deal with Trumps "breathing"? Anyone else notice it?
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:03 PM   #2502
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My God, listening to Trump on his birtherism is painful.

Edit: And now she just flat out calls him a racist.

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Old 09-26-2016, 09:03 PM   #2503
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What's the deal with Trumps "breathing"? Anyone else notice it?
I think he just has a bit of a cold.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:07 PM   #2504
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Many people are saying he did coke before the debate.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:08 PM   #2505
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I told my wife he sounds like he really needs a drink. His voice is struggling after about 45 seconds of his two minutes.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:08 PM   #2506
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Body language alert: Trump looks very fidgety and flailing, but Clinton has presented as more still and relaxed.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:13 PM   #2507
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Trump lost the fat hacker vote with his 400 lb. comment.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:14 PM   #2508
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I think Trump is getting hammered, but I guarantee his supporters think he's killing it. We're just beyond facts, reason, or basic logic now.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:17 PM   #2509
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Trump lost the fat hacker vote with his 400 lb. comment.

Heh, I wonder how that went down over at r/The_Donald
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:17 PM   #2510
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I kept an open mind as to who I thought was winning. Trump did well early on but damn that birther stuff just destroyed him.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:19 PM   #2511
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I actually thought Hillary could have hit hard on the birther topic, she missed a softball there. But, yeah, not a good look for Trump.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:19 PM   #2512
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Isn't stop and frisk unconstitutional? I'm all for being tougher on crime but he keeps talking about instilling something that is unconstitutional.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:21 PM   #2513
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:21 PM   #2514
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Hey guys, I think Trump supported the Iraq War.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:22 PM   #2515
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"I haven't thought a lot about NATO".

That just happened.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:22 PM   #2516
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Donald's support for/not war in Iraq will be a major piece tomorrow.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:22 PM   #2517
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Isn't stop and frisk unconstitutional? I'm all for being tougher on crime but he keeps talking about instilling something that is unconstitutional.

When the moderator questioned him on whether it was constitutional he said that the judgment that it was unconstitutional was made by a bad judge who hates the police and that it would be overturned if it was appealed.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:22 PM   #2518
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I feel bad for all those people updating Hillary's fact checking website in real-time. They need combat pay, or at least disability benefits.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:23 PM   #2519
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"Whoo, okay" ... nice comeback after that torturous monologue.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:24 PM   #2520
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"I have a much better temperament than she does". LMAO
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:25 PM   #2521
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OK, she is officially killing Trump.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:26 PM   #2522
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Heh, I wonder how that went down over at r/The_Donald

Don't you know that they are all in great shape, have high paying jobs, and super hot model girlfriends?
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:28 PM   #2523
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Rocky, throw the damn towel!

I thought his tv experience would help but she got him off his game quickly tonight and he's miss opportunities to either answer the question or hit her back when there was an opening.

Still voting for johnson thougb.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:31 PM   #2524
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Trump has seemingly given up, he's completely stopped trying to interrupt Hillary and cut her off.

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Old 09-26-2016, 09:31 PM   #2525
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Rocky, throw the damn towel!

I thought his tv experience would help but she got him off his game quickly tonight and he's miss opportunities to either answer the question or hit her back when there was an opening.

Still voting for johnson thougb.

She has left herself open a few times, but he simply doesn't know enough about anything relevant to take advantage. But I'm With Her, so maybe I just have my red pantsuit glasses on.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:34 PM   #2526
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Hillary's stamina comeback was pretty good.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:34 PM   #2527
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This is getting kind of embarrassing at this point.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:36 PM   #2528
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Trump hasn't been able to coke up for an hour and a half. You try to go that long without a bump.

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Old 09-26-2016, 09:36 PM   #2529
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Many people are saying he did coke before the debate.

Howard Dean Thinks Donald Trump Might Be On Coke
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:37 PM   #2530
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Poor Trump had his feelings hurt by negative ads.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:38 PM   #2531
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She needs to say "that's just business Donald."
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:39 PM   #2532
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Trump gritting his teeth at Holt a few times was not a good look.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:39 PM   #2533
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I wish Lester would just say,"just answer my fucking question."
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:39 PM   #2534
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Trump gritting his teeth at Holt a few times was not a good look.

Sneering at a black man, plenty of people will eat that up.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:41 PM   #2535
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Sad to think that nearly half this country watched the same 90 minute debate and think Donald is the clear choice to lead this nation.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:41 PM   #2536
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PredictIt has gone from .63 before the debate to .69 now.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:43 PM   #2537
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I feel like more pressure was on Hillary tonight, and she survived it. She needed to be aggressive while also trying to appear cool and likeable. I think she pulled it off, but her monotone, measured speaking tone is just rough.

With narrowing of the polls, and the expectations game seemingly favoring Trump if he was composed, Trump really flailed after a good start. The lack of debate prep was glaring. Second debate will be interesting to watch to see if he actually puts some time into prep.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:45 PM   #2538
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She has left herself open a few times, but he simply doesn't know enough about anything relevant to take advantage. But I'm With Her, so maybe I just have my red pantsuit glasses on.

It almost feels like he felt like he could get by on his charisma or his prep team guessed wrong on all the question that were going to come up tonight.

He survived with interviews after every debate so maybe he is planning on falling back on that tonight.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:46 PM   #2539
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The lack of debate prep was glaring. Second debate will be interesting to watch to see if he actually puts some time into prep.

This has been trump's weakness from the outset. His lack of knowledge on issues at this point is inexcusable. If he were serious at all about becoming president he'd have shown some improvement by now.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:48 PM   #2540
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He did fine in the primaries because in a multi-candidate debate, it's easier to get by on personality. When it's just two people, you have to actually know a few things.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:49 PM   #2541
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Amusing to read this thread after the debate. We get it, FOFC, you lean just a little to the left.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:49 PM   #2542
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Just switched over to Fox post-debate coverage. They were slamming his performance...then switched to a lovefest interview with DJT and Hannity.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:50 PM   #2543
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Amusing to read this thread after the debate. We get it, FOFC, you lean just a little to the left.

The irony in this post may break FOFC.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:52 PM   #2544
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:52 PM   #2545
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Amusing to read this thread after the debate. We get it, FOFC, you lean just a little to the left.

I'm actually a registered Republican and presented a fairly balanced review of both candidates. But you keep fucking that chicken.

Trump sucked in his debate skills tonight, and you're in denial if you think differently. That's a completely different issue than who I think would be a better Presidential candidate or who I would actually vote for in November.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:53 PM   #2546
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Yeah, I wandered over to Fox too. I think they're just going to regroup and figure out what the spin should be. Looks like it might be the 30 year stuff, and that he did well for his first one-on-one vs her fifteenth.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:54 PM   #2547
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Not a registered Republican, but have never voted Democrat for POTUS (and extremely rarely for other offices). She won this hands down. No question. (And as I mentioned, he's getting criticized by everyone over at Fox other than Hannity right now.)
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:55 PM   #2548
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Word is that Bill was seen heading out of the debate hall with Melania.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:56 PM   #2549
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Did Megyn Kelly take a shot at Hannity? What I *thought* I heard her say was "Donald Trump is with Sean Hannity right now. We'll see if he talks to the journalists in the room." Did I hear that correctly?
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:57 PM   #2550
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Speaking of Hannity, is he saying Trump was privately against Iraq?

She ripped him a new one after he seemed to be doing fairly decently the first half hour (was she baiting him?), but we'll see if it translates to poll numbers.
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