The Official 2012-13 NHL Offseason Thread - Page 3

Grover · 06-22-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

Caps acquire Mike Ribeiro from Stars for Cody Eakin and the 54th pick.

Sounds like the Stars are going to full-rebuild mode.

Honolulu_Blue · 06-22-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

Caps acquire Mike Ribeiro from Stars for Cody Eakin and the 54th pick.

I hate Mike Ribeiro.

Alex Galchenyuk's mom... MILF.

Grover · 06-22-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I hate Mike Ribeiro.

Alex Galchenyuk's mom... MILF.

I hope you're not talking about that whorish looking woman in the teal dress.

Honolulu_Blue · 06-22-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

I hope you're not talking about that whorish looking woman in the teal dress.

But of course. Don't be ridiculous.

Looking at that family shot again, it's possible she's his sister.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-22-2012, 06:55 PM

Instead of interviewing recent picks and their new GMs, can they just talk to Burke the whole time? That's good TV!

Grover · 06-22-2012, 07:02 PM

I like that Pierre is calling Hampus a steal "as a fast riser, I had him going 15-20"

That sounds more like a reach than a steal, Pierre.

bronconick · 06-22-2012, 07:09 PM

Jordan Staal to Carolina for 8th pick, Brandon Sutter, and Brian Dumolin.

Grover · 06-22-2012, 07:13 PM

Dumoulin is a steal for the Pens. I'm not just saying that because his brother is one of my best friends.

Danny · 06-22-2012, 07:18 PM

Suburban Rhythm · 06-22-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Dumoulin is a steal for the Pens. I'm not just saying that because his brother is one of my best friends.

Really like Staal but that's a solid return. Sutter slots in that spot behind 87 and 71, at about 1/2 or 1/3 price of Staal. And not to sound too much like Pierre, this team's young D is FILTHY!

Grover · 06-22-2012, 07:22 PM

Brian should have been Big East POY this year and was a Hobey Baker finalist. He was unbelievable to watch in high school and at BC. I was hoping he'd get his chance in Carolina. He's an absolutely fantastic kid and a hard worker.

bronconick · 06-22-2012, 07:55 PM

Psst: Hockey East.

Grover · 06-22-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

Psst: Hockey East.

yeah yeah

Grover · 06-22-2012, 08:46 PM

Defensive forward as a definite need for the Flyers. The pick is getting a ton of hate on Twitter though.

bhlloy · 06-22-2012, 09:04 PM

I don't know if you can possibly do better on day 1 of the draft than the Pens did. Staal is a nice player but they got back another NHL guy at the same position and added three probable top 4 defensemen. Pretty unbelievable stuff.

Grover · 06-22-2012, 09:08 PM

I really want Boston to take Malcolm Subban for the comedy.

Grover · 06-22-2012, 10:11 PM

Yandle to Pittsburgh is picking up some serious steam.

EDIT: Or maybe not...

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun Pitt has dealt Z. Michalek to Phx in exchange for prospect Harrison Ruopp plus a 3rd-round pick this year (81st) and goalie Marc Cheverie.

Wolfpack · 06-22-2012, 10:27 PM

I don't know how to feel about the Staal trade as of yet. I feel like Carolina gave just a little too much on it. Sutter's a solid, though not spectacular two-way player, but very much a hard worker and character guy. He doesn't have huge statistical numbers, but he played center on Carolina's checking line and often was tasked with trying to cancel out other #1 lines rather than getting his own points. I really think the Dumoulin portion of the deal is what hurts, though. Carolina's defense is not that great and Dumoulin would have been a great asset to develop alongside Justin Faulk. I'm guessing JR felt the pressure to make a big move and must think that other d-men in the system can make the jump at some point.

I'm also uncertain who will or should take over the checking line center or whether Muller will look to roll three offense oriented lines and rely on an aggressive forecheck to play defense with, as it were. As it is, while it's nice to fantasize, I don't think Carolina has enough depth in the middle now to have Jordan at center and Eric on a wing, so Eric remains #1 and Jordan moves to #2. I think Eric's line help will have to come from some other trade or free agency acquisition, which pretty much means they'll be all-in to try to get Parise. If they whiff on getting him, there's not really a Plan B that I'm aware of to make up for the miss that could potentially make up the difference (unless they dump a sizeable chunk of the team to get Nash and that would still require Nash to waive his NTC).

Honolulu_Blue · 06-23-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Yandle to Pittsburgh is picking up some serious steam.

EDIT: Or maybe not...

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun Pitt has dealt Z. Michalek to Phx in exchange for prospect Harrison Ruopp plus a 3rd-round pick this year (81st) and goalie Marc Cheverie.

Are the Pens dumping salary to gear up for a run at a Suter or Parise?

Apparently so, as the Pens tried to acquire Suter's rights...

Suburban Rhythm · 06-23-2012, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grover

Yandle to Pittsburgh is picking up some serious steam.

EDIT: Or maybe not...

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun Pitt has dealt Z. Michalek to Phx in exchange for prospect Harrison Ruopp plus a 3rd-round pick this year (81st) and goalie Marc Cheverie.

Not really a fan of this move. Michalek was no worse than the rest of the crew down the stretch and in the playoffs. And prefer him a ton over Martin. He's a 2nd pairing guy...but a really good 2nd pairing guy.

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Are the Pens dumping salary to gear up for a run at a Suter or Parise?

Apparently so, as the Pens tried to acquire Suter's rights...

You could make the case that, on long term deals, they have enough room to sign Suter AND Parise. Certainly not likely...but nice to dream

And if they can still move Martin...another $5M (less whatever comes back).

Shero is doing the Paul Holmgren move to his D

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I don't know how to feel about the Staal trade as of yet. I feel like Carolina gave just a little too much on it. Sutter's a solid, though not spectacular two-way player, but very much a hard worker and character guy. He doesn't have huge statistical numbers, but he played center on Carolina's checking line and often was tasked with trying to cancel out other #1 lines rather than getting his own points. I really think the Dumoulin portion of the deal is what hurts, though. Carolina's defense is not that great and Dumoulin would have been a great asset to develop alongside Justin Faulk. I'm guessing JR felt the pressure to make a big move and must think that other d-men in the system can make the jump at some point.

I'm also uncertain who will or should take over the checking line center or whether Muller will look to roll three offense oriented lines and rely on an aggressive forecheck to play defense with, as it were. As it is, while it's nice to fantasize, I don't think Carolina has enough depth in the middle now to have Jordan at center and Eric on a wing, so Eric remains #1 and Jordan moves to #2. I think Eric's line help will have to come from some other trade or free agency acquisition, which pretty much means they'll be all-in to try to get Parise. If they whiff on getting him, there's not really a Plan B that I'm aware of to make up for the miss that could potentially make up the difference (unless they dump a sizeable chunk of the team to get Nash and that would still require Nash to waive his NTC).

I would expect that the 3C job be up for grabs, but when holding a lead late, Jordan Staal fills that role. Even when Crosby was out (and the year before that, Crosby and Malkin), with leads, JS become the shutdown guy, and all the offensive zone starts went to Mark Letetsu and a bunch of other junk.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-23-2012, 06:13 AM

Dola

This from last night, before deal was completed

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Dave Molinari ‏@MolinariPG
Hearing that Ottawa might be one of the teams interested in trading for D Zbynek Michalek. His brother, Milan, plays for the Senators.

No more players with brothers! You either sign all the brothers, or none of them!

Suburban Rhythm · 06-23-2012, 06:16 AM

TROLA

This is for Pumpy

Grover · 06-23-2012, 03:56 PM

Dreger reporting the Flyers have traded JVR to Toronto for Luke Schenn.

I don't like it.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-23-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Dreger reporting the Flyers have traded JVR to Toronto for Luke Schenn.

I don't like it.

I'm not a huge JVR fan, but that's still bad for Philly.

I don't see JVR as ever being the elite, 40+ guy. But still a solid 30-ish guy, which how many of those exist today? 8? 10?

But Schenn...ugh. Although, maybe they are making a pre-emptive move to keep Brayden around long term.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-25-2012, 02:05 PM

RomaGoth · 06-25-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

I like how you photoshopped Gary Bettman out of this picture!

RomaGoth · 06-25-2012, 02:25 PM

This story is so damn funny and indicative of why the Blue Jackets and Islanders are both trainwrecks.

Report: Blue Jackets turned down Islanders' offer of entire draft for No. 2 pick

My favorite part of the story:

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I also remembered it is Howson and Snow we're talking about. Not to say I would be better as a GM, surely I wouldn't come close, but this is a deal that EA Sports wouldn't even let you reject. It would literally not be an option, it was such an overwhelming deal.

How does Howson NOT agree to this deal if it is true. What a dipshit.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-25-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

This story is so damn funny and indicative of why the Blue Jackets and Islanders are both trainwrecks.

Report: Blue Jackets turned down Islanders' offer of entire draft for No. 2 pick

My favorite part of the story:

How does Howson NOT agree to this deal if it is true. What a dipshit.

He felt Murray would look terrible in white?

Dr. Sak · 06-25-2012, 06:08 PM

Congrats to our own Maple Leafs!

Down Goes Brown: Announcing "The Best of Down Goes Brown" - In bookstores this fall, available for pre-order now

Now where is my free advanced copy?

Honolulu_Blue · 06-25-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Congrats to our own Maple Leafs!

Down Goes Brown: Announcing "The Best of Down Goes Brown" - In bookstores this fall, available for pre-order now

Now where is my free advanced copy?

Saw that on Facebook today.

Very awesome!

Definitely will be picking it up. It's a great conversation starter:

"Yeah, this is an awesome hockey comedy/humor book written by a guy I know. Well, I don't really know him. He's been posting on the same message board that I post on about a text-based computer football game that I haven't played in about ten years, and... Here, just read the book."

edit: This has just been pre-ordered.

Logan · 06-25-2012, 07:12 PM

Saw it mentioned by McKenzie on Twitter (after DGB of course). Congrats man.

What puts more in your pocket...the regular version or ebook? Gotta know which is better for you to buy.

Wolfpack · 06-25-2012, 09:24 PM

79-cent price break on Amazon? That's it?

Seriously, congrats! I'll probably have to get it via Amazon or something since the bookstores around here don't exactly carry a wide selection of hockey books, especially snark-filled ones by bloggers from Canada (but I'm sure you knew that...

).

Fidatelo · 06-25-2012, 09:46 PM

Congrats Maple Leafs, that's awesome!!

Fidatelo · 06-25-2012, 10:01 PM

Dola

The Jets signed Pavelec today, 5yrs/19.5m. Seems a bit steep at 3.9m/yr, and about a year too long, but I think the Jets are going to have to slightly overpay pretty much everyone if they want people to stay. As long as they aren't grossly overpaying then I'm ok with it.

chadritt · 06-26-2012, 12:22 AM

Im guessing the KHL threat had a little to do with any slight overpayment? That franchise has also had zero luck with goalies so maybe theyre just scared to lose him

Fidatelo · 06-26-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chadritt

Im guessing the KHL threat had a little to do with any slight overpayment? That franchise has also had zero luck with goalies so maybe theyre just scared to lose him

The KHL threat was likely just leverage, but I'm sure it helped Pavelec pry some extra cash away from True North. I'm not sure the franchise history would play much of a role given that none of the current parties (from owners to management to fans) have ties to that past.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-26-2012, 08:40 AM

Taylor Swift: Penguin Killer

Tyler Kennedy should watch his back

RomaGoth · 06-26-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chadritt

That franchise has also had zero luck with goalies so maybe theyre just scared to lose him

I hear Bob Essensa is available.

bhlloy · 06-26-2012, 11:18 AM

I always enjoy our HOF debates

For me this year it's Sakic, Shanahan, Oates, Bure and my controversial pick is Phil Housely. And obviously it's a disgrace that Pat Burns isn't there already so him too.

Sundin and Roenick belong in eventually but I'm not sure I'd put them in over any of the above guys. Yes, even Housely. The guy is fourth all time in scoring among defencemen, second all time for American born players and one of the most underrated players of the last couple of decades IMO.

bhlloy · 06-26-2012, 11:23 AM

DOLA - I'd put Sundin in well before JR I think. Other than the period from 89-94 i think Roenick was completely overrated.

Draft Dodger · 06-26-2012, 11:53 AM

Housely should be in IMO

Roenick goes to the Sega HOF before the hockey HOF

Fidatelo · 06-26-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

DOLA - I'd put Sundin in well before JR I think. Other than the period from 89-94 i think Roenick was completely overrated.

I'm not a big Roenick fan, but if you take out his poor year in 97/98 he put up (essentially) point-per-game numbers throughout the 94-01 period as well.

Roenick tailed off more than Sundin did, but he also had a much better peak. Frankly they are both overrated in my opinion.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-26-2012, 02:24 PM

Can't wait to see the Shanahan video suspending the HHOF committee

Grover · 06-26-2012, 02:30 PM

No Shero or Burns? Ridiculous.

That said, I agree with the rest.

RomaGoth · 06-26-2012, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I always enjoy our HOF debates

For me this year it's Sakic, Shanahan, Oates, Bure and my controversial pick is Phil Housely. And obviously it's a disgrace that Pat Burns isn't there already so him too.

Sundin and Roenick belong in eventually but I'm not sure I'd put them in over any of the above guys. Yes, even Housely. The guy is fourth all time in scoring among defencemen, second all time for American born players and one of the most underrated players of the last couple of decades IMO.

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

DOLA - I'd put Sundin in well before JR I think. Other than the period from 89-94 i think Roenick was completely overrated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I'm not a big Roenick fan, but if you take out his poor year in 97/98 he put up (essentially) point-per-game numbers throughout the 94-01 period as well.

Roenick tailed off more than Sundin did, but he also had a much better peak. Frankly they are both overrated in my opinion.

It is another black eye for the league that Shanahan didn't make it in. How the fuck Mats Sundin gets in over Shanny is beyond me. Maybe next year they will vote JR instead of Shanny.

RomaGoth · 06-26-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

No Shero or Burns? Ridiculous.

That said, I agree with the rest.

Burns deserves it, and the fact that he isn't in yet is absurd.

Honolulu_Blue · 06-26-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

It is another black eye for the league that Shanahan didn't make it in. How the fuck Mats Sundin gets in over Shanny is beyond me. Maybe next year they will vote JR instead of Shanny.

Eh, Shanny will get in sooner rather than later.

He totally deserves it.

Fidatelo · 06-26-2012, 03:19 PM

What makes Shanahan more deserving than JR or Sundin? I'd put them all in essentially the same 'grouping' myself. And off the cuff I think they are all borderline in terms of HHOF, although I'd have to review past inductees/nominees to see if my gut just has the bar too high.

RomaGoth · 06-26-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

What makes Shanahan more deserving than JR or Sundin? I'd put them all in essentially the same 'grouping' myself. And off the cuff I think they are all borderline in terms of HHOF, although I'd have to review past inductees/nominees to see if my gut just has the bar too high.

Shanahan:

1524 games
656 goals
698 assists
1354 points
2489 penalty minutes
8 All Star Games
3 Stanley Cups

Sundin:

1346 games
564 goals
785 assists
1349 points
1093 penalty minutes
8 All Star Games
0 Stanley Cups

Shanny beats him in all of the major statistics except assists, and that is by less than 100. They tied in All Star Game appearances.

Sundin does not deserve to be in the HHOF over Shanahan under any circumstances, and I wonder how much of this has to do with Toronto being where Sundin played most of his career.

RomaGoth · 06-26-2012, 03:30 PM

Dola

Shanahan is also the only player in NHL history to have 600+ goals and 2000+ penalty minutes.

06-22-2012, 06:55 PM	#105
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06-22-2012, 07:02 PM	#106
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	I like that Pierre is calling Hampus a steal "as a fast riser, I had him going 15-20" That sounds more like a reach than a steal, Pierre. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

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Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Wow,

06-22-2012, 07:22 PM	#111
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Brian should have been Big East POY this year and was a Hobey Baker finalist. He was unbelievable to watch in high school and at BC. I was hoping he'd get his chance in Carolina. He's an absolutely fantastic kid and a hard worker. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

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bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Jordan Staal to Carolina for 8th pick, Brandon Sutter, and Brian Dumolin.

06-22-2012, 07:55 PM	#112
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Psst: Hockey East.

06-22-2012, 08:46 PM	#114
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06-22-2012, 09:04 PM	#115
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I don't know if you can possibly do better on day 1 of the draft than the Pens did. Staal is a nice player but they got back another NHL guy at the same position and added three probable top 4 defensemen. Pretty unbelievable stuff.

06-22-2012, 09:08 PM	#116
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	I really want Boston to take Malcolm Subban for the comedy. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

06-22-2012, 10:11 PM	#117
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Yandle to Pittsburgh is picking up some serious steam. EDIT: Or maybe not... Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun Pitt has dealt Z. Michalek to Phx in exchange for prospect Harrison Ruopp plus a 3rd-round pick this year (81st) and goalie Marc Cheverie. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner Last edited by Grover : 06-22-2012 at 10:16 PM.

06-22-2012, 10:27 PM	#118
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	I don't know how to feel about the Staal trade as of yet. I feel like Carolina gave just a little too much on it. Sutter's a solid, though not spectacular two-way player, but very much a hard worker and character guy. He doesn't have huge statistical numbers, but he played center on Carolina's checking line and often was tasked with trying to cancel out other #1 lines rather than getting his own points. I really think the Dumoulin portion of the deal is what hurts, though. Carolina's defense is not that great and Dumoulin would have been a great asset to develop alongside Justin Faulk. I'm guessing JR felt the pressure to make a big move and must think that other d-men in the system can make the jump at some point. I'm also uncertain who will or should take over the checking line center or whether Muller will look to roll three offense oriented lines and rely on an aggressive forecheck to play defense with, as it were. As it is, while it's nice to fantasize, I don't think Carolina has enough depth in the middle now to have Jordan at center and Eric on a wing, so Eric remains #1 and Jordan moves to #2. I think Eric's line help will have to come from some other trade or free agency acquisition, which pretty much means they'll be all-in to try to get Parise. If they whiff on getting him, there's not really a Plan B that I'm aware of to make up for the miss that could potentially make up the difference (unless they dump a sizeable chunk of the team to get Nash and that would still require Nash to waive his NTC).

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06-23-2012, 03:56 PM	#123
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06-25-2012, 06:08 PM	#129
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Congrats to our own Maple Leafs! Down Goes Brown: Announcing "The Best of Down Goes Brown" - In bookstores this fall, available for pre-order now Now where is my free advanced copy?

06-25-2012, 07:12 PM	#131
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Saw it mentioned by McKenzie on Twitter (after DGB of course). Congrats man. What puts more in your pocket...the regular version or ebook? Gotta know which is better for you to buy.

06-25-2012, 09:24 PM	#132
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	79-cent price break on Amazon? That's it? Seriously, congrats! I'll probably have to get it via Amazon or something since the bookstores around here don't exactly carry a wide selection of hockey books, especially snark-filled ones by bloggers from Canada (but I'm sure you knew that... ).

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06-25-2012, 10:01 PM	#134
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Dola The Jets signed Pavelec today, 5yrs/19.5m. Seems a bit steep at 3.9m/yr, and about a year too long, but I think the Jets are going to have to slightly overpay pretty much everyone if they want people to stay. As long as they aren't grossly overpaying then I'm ok with it. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

06-26-2012, 12:22 AM	#135
chadritt High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA	Im guessing the KHL threat had a little to do with any slight overpayment? That franchise has also had zero luck with goalies so maybe theyre just scared to lose him

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06-26-2012, 11:18 AM	#139
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I always enjoy our HOF debates For me this year it's Sakic, Shanahan, Oates, Bure and my controversial pick is Phil Housely. And obviously it's a disgrace that Pat Burns isn't there already so him too. Sundin and Roenick belong in eventually but I'm not sure I'd put them in over any of the above guys. Yes, even Housely. The guy is fourth all time in scoring among defencemen, second all time for American born players and one of the most underrated players of the last couple of decades IMO.

06-26-2012, 11:23 AM	#140
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	DOLA - I'd put Sundin in well before JR I think. Other than the period from 89-94 i think Roenick was completely overrated.

06-26-2012, 11:53 AM	#141
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	Housely should be in IMO Roenick goes to the Sega HOF before the hockey HOF __________________ Mile High Hockey

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Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	What makes Shanahan more deserving than JR or Sundin? I'd put them all in essentially the same 'grouping' myself. And off the cuff I think they are all borderline in terms of HHOF, although I'd have to review past inductees/nominees to see if my gut just has the bar too high. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

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