2020 Democratic Primaries/General Election Thread

[GrantDawg]

She was with the President on Air Force One to and from the debate without a mask.

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[sterlingice]

I was going to toss this in the Trump Presidency thread, but I guess it's here.

It would also be so 2020 if Trump doesn't get anything or just a mild case and then gives it to Biden.

SI

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I was going to toss this in the Trump Presidency thread, but I guess it's here.

It would also be so 2020 if Trump doesn't get anything or just a mild case and then gives it to Biden.

SI

Hey hey hey...let's not give 2020 any more ideas.

[GrantDawg]

I actually meant to put that in the Trump thread.

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[JediKooter]

I'm sure it's no big deal, I don't want the president to panic.

[stevew]

James Dolan and Harvey Weinstein have both survived it so Trump will likely be asymptomatic.

[Edward64]

I'm not sure Jim Carrey is right for the role but Maya Rudolf will be great. Don't have NBC so will have to watch the clips Sun morning.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/enter...snl/index.html

[GrantDawg]

I think Jim Carey will be great, but I am concerned that he won't be willing to do it long term. I don't see him being there every show like Alec Baldwin.

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[stevew]

Alex Baldwin segments are an immediate fast forward.

[ISiddiqui]

Jim Carrey doesn't have to do it long term. Just during the election and then they can find an in house person to do Biden (or hire a comedian to be in house who is mostly to do Biden).

[stevew]

Jason Sudeikis was actually funny as Biden I thought.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by stevew

Jason Sudeikis was actually funny as Biden I thought.

I just didn't think he did it well. He played Biden kind of how Trump sees him - hopped up on Adderall.

I thought Woody Harrelson did a better job the one or two times he played him.

Steve Martin was my top choice.

[sterlingice]

Steve Martin would be a fun Biden

SI

[BillyMadison]

That's one way to blow your chances in a close race:

"North Carolina U.S. Senate candidate Cal Cunningham, a married father of two, sent text messages of a sexual nature to a woman who is not his wife, his campaign confirmed Friday night."https://t.co/eIl6lqMX6I

— Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) October 3, 2020

Smells like blackmail. Or releasing it on the day your opponent and everyone else gets COVID hoping it gets buried in the news cycle.

[ISiddiqui]

Well fuck. Cunningham was leading by 6 points:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...gham-6908.html

And the Dems need that seat to turn.

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[Vegas Vic]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Steve Martin would be a fun Biden
SI

Jimmy Buffett FTW (If he got the hair plugs)

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

That's one way to blow your chances in a close race:




Smells like blackmail. Or releasing it on the day your opponent and everyone else gets COVID hoping it gets buried in the news cycle.

"Text messages of a sexual nature" "Sexting" is way sensationalizing what this was. There was no sex in these messages. It was pretty tame. When some one says "sexting" you think "sent a picture of his junk."

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Well fuck. Cunningham was leading by 6 points:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - North Carolina Senate - Tillis vs. Cunningham

And the Dems need that seat to turn.

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Isn't it funny we can write off a Dem who is unfaithful, nut not a Republican that slept with a porn star, bragged about groping women without consent, or even cruising the mall to pick up 15 year olds?

[JPhillips]

I don't think, I want to kiss you, is going to sink his campaign. It might sink his marriage, but I went from OMG to who cares pretty quickly.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Isn't it funny we can write off a Dem who is unfaithful, nut not a Republican that slept with a porn star, bragged about groping women without consent, or even cruising the mall to pick up 15 year olds?

But both sides!

SI

[SirFozzie]

Um. Woah.

latest polls show Biden leading 53/39 and now leading amongst senior citizens? Woah indeed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...after-n1242018

[Brian Swartz]

We actually can write off that Republican. Some of us have been doing so for a year now. But not for that reason. Here's something posted on my facebook today. It was written by a fairly influential conservative evangelical author and speaker who has done some legitimately fine work in some other areas.

an email that she had received a few minutes before from a friend. It quoted an anonymous statement that gets to the heart of the issue, as follows:

"This is not a junior high or high school popularity/personality contest. I'm not voting for the person—I'm voting for the platform!

I'm voting for the Second Amendment. I'm voting for the next Supreme Court justice. I'm voting for the electoral college. I'm voting for the Republic in which we live. I'm voting for the police and law and order. I'm voting for the military and the veterans who fought and died for this country. I'm voting for the flag that is often missing from public events. I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored for it. I'm voting for secure borders. I'm voting for the right to praise God without fear. I'm voting for every unborn soul that is at risk of being aborted. I'm voting for freedom and the American dream. I'm voting for good and against evil. I'm not just voting for one person.

I'm voting for the future of my country!"

I couldn't have said it better, although I want to add to the writer's list. I'm also voting for candidates who will exercise sound leadership internationally. I'm voting for those who will support Israel. I'm voting for those who will protect children from leftist curricula. I'm voting for the nation's fiscal integrity. I'm voting for parental rights. I'm voting for school choice and home education. I'm voting for freedom in the suburbs. I'm voting for Little Sisters of the Poor and other Christian organizations. I'm voting for racial unity. I am voting to support "In God we trust" and school prayer. I'm voting for freedom of conscience for physicians and other professionals. I am voting for marriage. I am voting for life in all its dimensions. I am voting against euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide. I'm voting for wisdom in handling the pandemic. I am voting for protection for the Church from oppressive politicians.

It's all about the policy. Said it before and I'll say it again: this is what lesser-of-two-evils mindset brings us. There's no limit to how low it can go until we reject that mindset.

[booradley]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

We actually can write off that Republican. Some of us have been doing so for a year now. But not for that reason. Here's something posted on my facebook today. It was written by a fairly influential conservative evangelical author and speaker who has done some legitimately fine work in some other areas.



It's all about the policy. Said it before and I'll say it again: this is what lesser-of-two-evils mindset brings us. There's no limit to how low it can go until we reject that mindset.

The policy, not the person. I agree with that.

[cuervo72]

"I'm voting for my persecution complex."

[sterlingice]

Whatever country they live in, it must be awful. Persecution of religion, removal of parental rights, and living in the suburbs is some prison sentence. But hey, they have racial unity there, so they have that going for them. It must be because all peoples are united in a common cause against this tyrannical government (or it's all one race, I suppose).

SI

[JPhillips]

I'm just going to highlight one point.

I'm voting for wisdom in handling the pandemic.

[sterlingice]

Query: What is "life in all its dimensions"? Human life, sure. You're for preserving animals - like a conservationist? You like both Barry Allen and Jay Garrick - Flash #123 or beings from another universe?

SI

[ISiddiqui]

I'm really sad for Joe Biden, who cannot praise God without fear. You know the Catholic who goes to Mass every Sunday he can.

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[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I'm really sad for Joe Biden, who cannot praise God without fear. You know the Catholic who goes to Mass every Sunday he can.

The other guy says the bible is his second favorite book, he can't comment further because it's very personal, but that really helps clinch it.

[QuikSand]

...and clearly when they wanted to do a photo op with a bible to make an important statement, he was using his own personal bible, and not something they had to go grab from a cheap hotel room.

[sterlingice]

And definitely wasn't holding it upside down. And can definitely name a favorite Bible verse.

SI

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

The other guy says the bible is his second favorite book, he can't comment further because it's very personal, but that really helps clinch it.

That's so Trump though. The man is uncomfortable talking about himself and things that are personal. He's spent his public life deflecting attention from himself and focusing on what's really important.

[JPhillips]

Honest to God, Trump's leaving money on the table by not selling a Trump branded bible.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Honest to God, Trump's leaving money on the table by not selling a Trump branded bible.

With a foreward written by everyone's favorite President?

SI

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Query: What is "life in all its dimensions"? Human life, sure. You're for preserving animals - like a conservationist? You like both Barry Allen and Jay Garrick - Flash #123 or beings from another universe?

SI

SI wins the thread with the Flash quote

[sterlingice]

I'm not very well read comic-wise, but even I know and have read that one.

SI

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Um. Woah.

latest polls show Biden leading 53/39 and now leading amongst senior citizens? Woah indeed.

Biden's national lead over Trump jumps to 14 points after debate in NBC News/WSJ poll

The interesting thing about that poll is how consistent it had been up to this point. It had Biden +8 for months, and then this sudden jump post debate.

[JPhillips]

This doesn't seem good.

When Donald Trump’s campaign took issue with a new rule on processing some votes in North Carolina, it didn’t just complain to the Board of Elections and file a lawsuit. It wrote to some of the state’s 100 local election offices with extraordinary guidance: Ignore that rule.

“The NC Republican Party advises you to not follow the procedures,” Trump campaign operative Heather Ford wrote in an email to county officials last week.

[RainMaker]

Polls mean squat when 20% of ballots in the black community are being rejected in North Carolina. They know they can't win a fair election.

[RainMaker]

North Carolina Early Voting Statistics

[Radii]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Polls mean squat when 20% of ballots in the black community are being rejected in North Carolina. They know they can't win a fair election.

link? I haven't been keeping up close enough.

EDIT: I'm dumb, I didn't see the "Rejected" tab on your followup link.

[Brian Swartz]

Where do you get 20% from that? The highest number I see for rejections there is 4.2%.

[JPhillips]

Guilford County

[Brian Swartz]

That says 16.8%, and more importantly what happens in one county doesn't support a claim of that magnitude covering the whole state. We need to keep an eye on this, and having that triple the rejection rate in Guildford for a particular group is a massive red flag. At the same time, if this is the best someone can do for voter suppression, it's quite mild overall at the state level with small differences between various party affiliations with rejection rates etc.

In other words, it's exactly what I'm talking about when I say people who assume Trump is going to steal the election, 'polls mean squat' etc. are demonstrating Chicken Little Syndrome.

[JPhillips]

It updated. It did say 20% when it was first posted.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Well fuck. Cunningham was leading by 6 points:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - North Carolina Senate - Tillis vs. Cunningham

And the Dems need that seat to turn.

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There's now news of another woman he had an affair with so that seat is as good as gone.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Where do you get 20% from that? The highest number I see for rejections there is 4.2%.

It was 20.3% in that county yesterday. Down to 16.8% now. The numbers in the state speak for themselves. And North Carolina has been a target of theirs.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-out...31f3e5fff2ccae

[Brian Swartz]

The point is, the statewide number says 4.2 and there's nothing there that says 20% statewide, which is what your original claim was. As I said, that doesn't mean there isn't a gap there that needs to watched and addressed. It does mean we should be accurate about what that gap is. The table you just posted is a great way to do that. The original claim is not.

[molson]

I didn't know that anyone would know your race when you vote, but apparently that's a part of voter registration in the south.

In learning that, I came across 538's discussion of possible reasons for disproportionate rejection rates, particularly in states that make you go through some hoops to fill out a ballot, which is going to be more difficult for new voters.

North Carolina Is Already Rejecting Black Voters’ Mail-In Ballots More Often Than White Voters’ | FiveThirtyEight

[ISiddiqui]

So now Pence does not want any plexiglass dividers around him, but says Harris can have them around her if she wants... what is the issue with just having one go down the stage? What an idiot Pence is.