FOFC Diplomacy

[Radii]

Using the extremely scientific method of pulling names out of a hat, I have assigned everyone a country and we are ready to begin.

Turkey - CastleRock
Russia - TargetPractice6
France - Skydog
Germany - Warhammer
England - Celeval
Austria/Hungary - PackerFanatic
Italy - Tredwel


I will be sending out an e-mail to everyone shortly. Contact each other however you prefer. I will provide an e-mail address for each player, and of course we have PMs here.

Since pre-game planning, espicially over e-mail, can take some time, we're going to go ahead and take a week for the first turn. That should give everyone enough time to plan out initial alliances, and for the newbies to see what its all about.

FIRST ORDERS DUE MONDAY, AUGUST 22nd, 3pm EST


EDIT: The official site and game map are now up.

http://www.angband.org/~radii/dip/fofc/index.html

[fantastic flying froggies]

Go SkyDog! You're my boy!

[Coffee Warlord]

I believe we'll be backing the Mob this game. Ave Italia! Ava Italia!

[Warhammer]

Kaiser Bill would like to let everyone know that he just wants a piece of Europe!

[Radii]

I have e-mailed all of the players. If you didn't get this e-mail please let me know

[PackerFanatic]

I may be a n00b, but I won't go down without a fight! Good luck everyone!

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I may be a n00b, but I won't go down without a fight! Good luck everyone!

Noobs can *win* at this game. The mechanics of battle really aren't that difficult. Good luck.

[Celeval]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

Kaiser Bill would like to let everyone know that he just wants a piece of Europe!

Don't you already have a piece of Europe? :-D

Kevin - England

[Radii]

I have edited the initial post to reflect this also... the official site for our game is up:

http://www.angband.org/~radii/dip/fofc/index.html

[Alf]

My money is on Germany ^^

[Ben E Lou]

Had to go out of town overnight. I'm back now. If you wrote me any time after yesterday mornign, sorry I haven't responded yet. Hope to get back to you later today.

--Ben

[Radii]

I have orders from everyone. I intend to run this at 3pm but I have a meeting scheduled from 10am-3pm, so we'll see how that goes, it will definitely be run before I leave the office today.

[Radii]

Spring 1901 Moves

HEADLINES
-- FRANCE AND GERMANY TUSSLE OVER BURGUNDY
-- ENGLISH CHANNEL REMAINS VACANT
-- BLACK SEA DOES NOT
-- BALKAN STATES PREPARE FOR MAJOR BATTLE
-- FRANCE MOVES ON IBERIAN PENINSULA, OCCUPIES SPAIN


We had one set of orders bounced in Spring of 1901. France and Germany tried to move armies into Burgundy from Paris and Munich, respectively. All other orders succeed. Of note, Russia occupies the Black Sea, while Russia, Turkey, Austria-Hungary and potentially Italy align themselves to fight over the four key Balkan supply centers. France and England appear to have maximized their ability to branch out by agreeing to leave the English Channel as a neutral zone, allowing France to take both Iberian supply centers easily, while England can fully pressure Scandanavia.


Great to see everyone get all their orders in!!


Spring 1901 movement map can be found: http://www.angband.org/~radii/dip/fofc/s1901m-o.html


The current game map going into Fall 1901:
http://www.angband.org/~radii/dip/fofc/f1901m-o.html



EDIT: Spelling.

[Radii]

Full list of Spring 1901 Moves:

Austria: Army Budapest → Serbia
Austria: Fleet Trieste → Albania
Austria: Army Vienna → Budapest

England: Fleet Edinburgh → Norwegian Sea
England: Army Liverpool → Edinburgh
England: Fleet London → North Sea

France: Fleet Brest → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Marseilles → Spain
France: Army Paris → Burgundy (*bounce*)

Germany: Army Berlin → Kiel
Germany: Fleet Kiel → Denmark
Germany: Army Munich → Burgundy (*bounce*)

Italy: Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Rome → Apulia
Italy: Army Venice HOLD

Russia: Army Moscow → Sevastopol
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Black Sea
Russia: Fleet St Petersburg (south coast) → Gulf of Bothnia
Russia: Army Warsaw → Ukraine

Turkey: Fleet Ankara → Constantinople
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Smyrna HOLD

[fantastic flying froggies]

Burgondy is without a doubt French and will be taken as soon as possible. Where will we build our Maginot line in the 30s if we don't have Burgondy?

[Warhammer]

Wow, interesting turn.

[Tekneek]

So, are non-players allowed to comment about the moves in this?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

So, are non-players allowed to comment about the moves in this?

I would sure think so (and hope that y'all would!)

[Tekneek]

Alrighty. Austria seems awfully trusting of Italy. I'm not sure if that faith is warranted, especially with the way the Venice Army held. The temptation to stab might be too much, even this early in the game. Sorry if I am going to make those negotiations difficult between you guys. Taking Trieste away will deprive Austria of a second build (assuming they take Greece in the Fall). Of course, Army Budapest could make this bounce, but they might have visions of taking Rumania.

Turkey also must have Russia completely on their side, else they could be in a real pinch in short order. A Russian/Austrian alliance, that somehow managed to keep Italy in check, could put Turkey under quickly. Best hope for Turkey is for Italy to go after Austria and somehow keep Russia from taking a center from them next turn.

[Radii]

Speaking as an observer(which I will do as long as I don't become privy to alliance discussion whether by accident or on purpose, if that happens I'll keep my mouth shut)... I wonder about the Black Sea and if there is a Turkish/Russian alliance or if there was an agreement to DMZ the Black Sea and Russia went against it.

I also wonder what caused a bounce in Burgundy, whether that was dumb luck or if one of those two powers found out that the other had a trick up their sleeve.

England/France is always great to watch, who dives into the Enlgish Channel first

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Radii

I also wonder what caused a bounce in Burgundy, whether that was dumb luck or if one of those two powers found out that the other had a trick up their sleeve.

Or they *want* us to think something is up...

[Alf]

Initial alliance probabilities

- France and England
- Rusia and Turkey
- Italy and Germany
- Austria : I don't see an alliance yet

(interesting guys, I just love this game !)

[Alf]

dola, when are next orders due so that we observers can watch and comment !

[PackerFanatic]

Next orders are due Thursday.

And I think you will see where my alliance lies after that

[Radii]

Ah yeah, I only sent that out via e-mail.

Fall 1901: Thursday 3pm EST
Retreats if applicable: Friday 3pm EST
Builds: Friday or Monday 3pm EST pending Retreat turn.

[Radii]

preliminary orders are in from everyone, though of course changes can occur between now and 3pm. I hope to run this one on time, though I am scheduled to have my PC upgraded at an unknown time this week *crosses fingers*

[Alf]

Just run them now if you have everybody moves in case of PC crash.

[Radii]

Processing now. Results shortly

[Radii]

FALL 1901 Moves

http://www.angband.org/~radii/dip/fofc/index.html (updated, it was cached for me from Monday still, you might have to refresh the main page and the Fall 1901 page to get the orders/moves to show up).

Headlines
--RUSSIA, GERMANY CALL IT A DRAW IN THE BATTLE FOR SWEDEN
--ITALIANS INVADE AFRICA, CLAIM TUNIS FOR HOMELAND.
--FRANCE COMPLETES CONQUEST OF IBERIAN PENINSULA
--AUSTRIA TAKES GREECE, RUSSIA GAINS CONTROL OF RUMANIA
--ENGLISH ARMY LANDS IN MAINLAND EUROPE, CONTROLS BELGIUM


Our only bounce this turn is in Sweden, between Germany and Russia. The Balkans are efficiently gobbled up, leaving Sweden as the only unowned supply center in the game.

We have no retreats today so we move directly to the build phase for tomorrow.

[Radii]

FALL 1901 MOVES:

Austria: Fleet Albania → Greece
Austria: Army Budapest HOLD
Austria: Army Serbia SUPPORT Fleet Albania → Greece

England: Army Edinburgh → Belgium via convoy
England: Fleet North Sea CONVOY Army Edinburgh → Belgium
England: Fleet Norwegian Sea → Norway

France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → Spain (south coast)
France: Army Paris → Burgundy
France: Army Spain → Portugal

Germany: Fleet Denmark → Sweden (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel → Holland
Germany: Army Munich → Ruhr

Italy: Army Apulia → Tunis via convoy
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea CONVOY Army Apulia → Tunis
Italy: Army Venice HOLD

Russia: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Sevastopol → Rumania
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Sweden (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Sevastopol → Rumania
Russia: Army Ukraine → Galicia

Turkey: Army Bulgaria HOLD
Turkey: Fleet Constantinople SUPPORT Army Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Smyrna → Ankara

[Radii]

Winter Builds and Total Supply Centers owned

Austria: Builds 2 units
England: Builds 2 units
France: Builds 2 units
Germany: Builds 2 units
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Russia: Builds 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit

Centers

Austria: 5
England: 5
France: 5
Germany: 5
Italy: 4
Russia: 5
Turkey: 4

[Radii]

Build Orders will be due Friday at 3pm EST

[Warhammer]

Wow, that army in Galicia is a threat to Vie and to Bud. Wonder which way Russia will go. Could a JUGGERNAUT be in the works?

Sorry, just couldn't resist!

[Tekneek]

As far as Turkey is concerned, that should be in the works!

Losing Black Sea is not too good for Turkey. Without some slick diplomacy, their days could be numbered.

[Radii]

1901 Winter Adjustments

Austria: BUILD Army Trieste
Austria: BUILD Army Vienna
England: BUILD Fleet Edinburgh
England: BUILD Fleet London
France: BUILD Fleet Brest
France: BUILD Army Paris
Germany: BUILD Fleet Kiel
Germany: BUILD Army Munich
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Russia: BUILD Army Moscow
Turkey: BUILD Fleet Smyrna

The website has been updated(http://www.angband.org/~radii/dip/fofc/index.html) and you can see the builds and the map going into Spring 1902.


Spring 1902 orders are due Wednesday at 3pm.

[Radii]

I can't wait to see how Spring 1902 plays out. Major alliances should become obvious everywhere on the map. The only truly interesting thing,I think, from the build phase, is where Russia chose to put its one new army. A sign of non-agression? Placement anywhere but Moscow would have likely showed what Russia's immediate plans are.

[PackerFanatic]

I could be majorly screwed...

[Radii]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I could be majorly screwed...

With the right alliances right now, anyone in the game could be majorly screwed

[TargetPractice6]

Originally Posted by Radii

I can't wait to see how Spring 1902 plays out. Major alliances should become obvious everywhere on the map. The only truly interesting thing,I think, from the build phase, is where Russia chose to put its one new army. A sign of non-agression? Placement anywhere but Moscow would have likely showed what Russia's immediate plans are.

Ugg, I can't believe I did that. I was really tired when I sent in my orders last night and didn't mean Moscow...

[TredWel]

This is going to be a crazy turn one way or the other. Can't wait to see what happens.

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by TargetPractice6

Ugg, I can't believe I did that. I was really tired when I sent in my orders last night and didn't mean Moscow...

Where did you mean to put it?

[Radii]

I am working on Spring 1902 now.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Radii

I am working on Spring 1902 now.

Cool! This turn ought to be interesting.

[PackerFanatic]

Very...heh.

[Ben E Lou]

Germany is on the ropes, and the juggernaut moves forward.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Cool! This turn ought to be interesting.

That could be quite an understatement.

http://www.angband.org/~radii/dip/fofc/index.html

Spring 1902 Movement Complete


--GERMAN ARMY DISLODGED FROM RUHR THANKS TO FRANCO-ENGLISH ALLIANCE
--ENGLISH SUPPORT ALLOWS RUSSIA TO OVERTAKE SWEDEN
--RUSSIA MOVES TOWARDS WESTERN EUROPE, SUPPORTS TURKISH HOLDINGS IN BULGARIA
--ITALIANS THWARTED IN MOVE TO DOMINATE SOUTHEASTERN WATERWAYS
--AUTRIA INEXPLICABLY VACATES GREECE, MOVES NAVAL RESOURCES TO ALBANIA

There appears to be a major convergance towards Germany, and one must wonder if the Germans have any friends at all.

No changes occur this turn in the Balkan supply centers, though there may now be a huge opening in greece for someone.



Germany's only retreat option is into Kiel, though Germany is allowed to choose to disband the unit instead, which would allow a fleet to be built next year assuming Germany doesn't lose any supply centers. Germany has until 3pm Thursday to issue the retreat order(though I will process it as soon as I see it and get the updated map out.

[Radii]

Austria: Army Budapest HOLD
Austria: Fleet Greece → Albania
Austria: Army Serbia → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Trieste → Serbia (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Vienna SUPPORT Army Budapest

England: Army Belgium SUPPORT French Army Burgundy → Ruhr
England: Fleet Edinburgh SUPPORT Fleet North Sea
England: Fleet London → English Channel (*bounce*)
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Army Belgium
England: Fleet Norway SUPPORT Russian Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Sweden

France: Fleet Brest → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Army Burgundy → Ruhr
France: Army Paris → Burgundy
France: Army Portugal → Spain
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) → Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Germany: Fleet Denmark HOLD
Germany: Army Holland SUPPORT Army Ruhr → Belgium
Germany: Fleet Kiel → Helgoland Bight
Germany: Army Munich HOLD
Germany: Army Ruhr → Belgium (*bounce, dislodged*)

Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Aegean Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Tunis HOLD
Italy: Army Venice → Tyrolia

Russia: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Rumania
Russia: Army Galicia → Silesia
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Sweden
Russia: Army Moscow → Warsaw
Russia: Army Rumania SUPPORT Turkish Army Bulgaria

Turkey: Army Ankara → Constantinople
Turkey: Army Bulgaria HOLD
Turkey: Fleet Constantinople → Aegean Sea
Turkey: Fleet Smyrna SUPPORT Fleet Constantinople → Aegean Sea

All Spring 1902 orders listed above.

[Warhammer]

Yeah, I think I would rather go out to a juggernaut than a F/E.

I think it is long term suicide for England to aid Russia. France I can understand, Russia no.

Note to self, never take the center position when other people know others better than they know you...

[PackerFanatic]

Things didn't really go as planned...

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

Yeah, I think I would rather go out to a juggernaut than a F/E.

I think it is long term suicide for England to aid Russia. France I can understand, Russia no.

Note to self, never take the center position when other people know others better than they know you...

To some degree, my allegiances were up in the air. What tipped the scales in favor of the direction I've chosen was the decision to bounce Russia in Sweden, combined with England getting two builds in '01. An F/G against a 5-center England holds very little hope for advancing when germany has to deal with a fight with Russia. I'm usually more of a pragmatist than anything else.