WW CXLVIII - Ancient Infection - EVIL WINS!

[Narcizo]

So in summing up. Worst case scenario - we have lost a doctor, a professor has outed themselves and we're about to lynch a nurse (who could be converted back by the doctor) and we've got nothing in the way of voting record to work off of.

Do we think that's a fair assessment of the worst case scenario?

[Narcizo]

Best case, chief is winding us/me up and he's a transformed. And all the stuff about having no good voting records, the professor outing themselves and the doctor being lynched.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Narcizo is gonna flip when he wakes up.

²

[Narcizo]

On the plus side if Chief was infected at least there won't be a night kill tonight either.

[Narcizo]

I guess we might want to look at people who pushed a nightfall vote through -the Mummy and the transformed would know that Chief is infected, if he is. But I doubt there's much to be gained looking at that either.

[Narcizo]

So we get another day of Danny and Crimson banter. Wake me up when it's day three. Except I won't be around much tomorrow.

Vote Narcizo

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

²

this must be code for something. is this a reveal?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

So in summing up. Worst case scenario - we have lost a doctor, a professor has outed themselves and we're about to lynch a nurse (who could be converted back by the doctor) and we've got nothing in the way of voting record to work off of.

Do we think that's a fair assessment of the worst case scenario?

was thinking something like this too. I couldn't make head or tail out of Danny and CHief's banter at first. Just thought it was silliness until CHief started in. Chief usually doesn't sillybanter. Then Chief goes back to his ole cryptic ways. converted nurse and unkillable mummy seem equally bad. WOnder which he's trying to say.

[Narcizo]

Mummy is a good result as it ensures that the Mummy will be taken out night five or six - I lose track of which. And the Mummy won't be able to signal the convertees. I'd gladly take Chief being the Mummy at thís stage. Just don't think it's likely is all.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

this must be code for something. is this a reveal?

It's code for "you all suck".

Although not really. Under the circumstances we probably had to lynch Chief - I just don't think it was as clearcut as we would have liked.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Two of the players in the game are Lovers. They are randomly determined at the beginning of the game, regardless of faction or role.

Chief could be the Mummy, Danny. Absolutely nothing in the rules says otherwise - quite the opposite.

[JAG]

bhlloy, normally I wouldn't recommend doing this, but you might consider revealing who you're planning on scanning tonight in the event you survive. That way we avoid overlap with whomever the other professor is.

[Narcizo]

Day One

#141 05:39 Raiders votes CrimsonFox (1)
#145 07:21 Jackal votes Zinto (1)
#149 09:18 Britrock votes Danny (1)
#150 09:27 Narcizo votes Britrock (1)
#154 09:42 JAG votes Passacaglia (1)
#155 09:45 Bhlloy votes Chief Rum (1)
#178 12:02 EagleFan votes CrimsonFox (2)
#192 12:37 Bhlloy unvotes Chief Rum (0)
#192 12:37 Bhlloy votes Julio (1)

#214 13:14 Zinto votes Narcizo (1)
#228 13:52 CrimsonFox votes Eaglefan (1)
#240 14:09 Darth Vilus votes Zinto (2)
#242 14:23 mauboy votes Darth Vilus (1)
#248 14:59 Chief Rum votes CrimsonFox (3)
#255 15:09 Julio votes Narcizo (2)
#258 15:26 CrimsonFox unvotes EagleFan (0)
#258 15:26 Crimson votes Narcizo (3)

#260 15:41 Simbo Klice votes Danny (2)
#261 15:41 Narcizo unvotes Britrock (0)
#261 15:41 Narcizo votes Julio (2)
#331 18:40 Passacaglia votes Cougarfreak (1)
#354 19:14 Danny votes KWhit (1)
#367 19:35 CrimsonFox unvotes Narcizo (2)
#367 19:35 CrimsonFox votes KWhit (2)
#368 19:44 Mau unvotes Darth Vilus (0)
#368 19:44 Mau votes Julio (3)
#370 19:49 LoneStarGirl votes Zinto (3)

#373 19:15 Cougarfreak votes Danny (3)
#376 19:37 Zinto votes Julio (4)
#380 20:39 JAG unvotes Pass (0)
#384 20:42 GoldenEagle votes Zinto (4)
#389 20:44 Crimson unvotes KWhit (1)

#394 20:47 Zinto unvotes Julio (3)
#406 20:51 CrimsonFox votes Julio (4)
#408 20:52 Zinto votes Julio (5)
#414 20:56 Danny unvotes KWhit (0)
#414 20:56 Danny votes Julio (6)
#428 21:00 Julio unvotes Narcizo (1)
#428 21:00 Julio votes Danny (4)
#429 21:00 JAG votes Crimson (4)


Vote Count

CrimsonFox (4) - raiders army (141), EagleFan (178), Chief Rum (248), JAG (429)
Zinto (4) - the jackal (145), Darth Vilus (240), Lonestargirl (370), GoldenEagle (384)
Danny (4) - Britrock88 (149), Simbo Klice (260), Cougarfreak (373), Julio (428)
Julio Riddols (6) - Bhlloy (192), Narcizo (261), mauboy1 (368), CrimsonFox (406), Zinto (408), Danny (414)
Cougarfreak (1) - passacaglia (331)

No Vote - Kwhit

[Narcizo]

I'm betting that most of the bad guys have dropped their votes and not moved them.

Raiders, Eagle, Jackal, DV, LSG, GE, britrock, Simbo, Cougar, mauboy, Pass, KWhit.

So that's that narrowed down.

Of course, the likes of Danny, JAG and Crimson would know that people would think that so they'd move their votes around anyway.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by JAG

bhlloy, normally I wouldn't recommend doing this, but you might consider revealing who you're planning on scanning tonight in the event you survive. That way we avoid overlap with whomever the other professor is.

Yeah, good call. Better get it out relatively early as well, if everyone is going to go nightfall crazy.

[Narcizo]

Don't think it matters but I'm bored

CrimsonFox
JAG
Chief Rum
Eaglefan
Passacaglia
Bhlloy
Goldeneagle
Cougarfreak
Zinto
Kwhit
Narcizo
Zinto
"Kimbo"
Simbo Klice
Mauboy
Britrock
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Kwhit
Julio

Missing: Raiders, Danny, Darth Vilus

[Raiders Army]

VOTE CHIEF RUM
VOTE NIGHTFALL

Extremely busy at work and trying to get my Tundra.

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by JAG

bhlloy, normally I wouldn't recommend doing this, but you might consider revealing who you're planning on scanning tonight in the event you survive. That way we avoid overlap with whomever the other professor is.

I agree. And I'd love a scan on the hiding in plain sight Danny. All that first day banter, and a late switch to the good doctor.

[JAG]

bhlloy, one other point of strategy. In my opinion, if Rum turns out to be Infected, I would not reveal your N0 scan yet since we know you will not be night killed.

[Narcizo]

One drawback with revealing who he's going to scan is that the transformers won't be infecting that person. Not sure it matters much as we need to be finding the transformers and not the infected anyway. But still.

Yes, I've started calling them transformers.

[JAG]

Yeah, Im not as sure about the reveal scan idea anymore. In the event bhlloy doesn't die overnight, it might be more pressure on the wolves to keep them guessing as to who he scanned and give him a chance to reveal it at a later point.

[KWhit]

Vote Nightfall

[Autumn]

"Our medical team has made good use out of the blood samples we have collected from Linda. They were amazingly able to rapidly find the infection and prepare a way to neutralize it. Unfortunately the supply of infected material is limited, and they can only synthesize so much cure every day. Not enough for all of us. If we can hold out long enough, we could wipe out the infection in all of us. If we can hold out. The problem is, some of you are the bad guys, and you hear me saying this too..."

Day 2 Vote Count

Chief Rum (16) - Passacaglia, Simbo Klice, JAG, Crimson Fox, Eagle Fan, LoneStarGirl, bhlloy, zinto, kwhit, danny, cougarfreak, the jackal, britrock, mauboy1, darth vilus, raiders army
narcizo (1) - narcizo

Nightfall (14) - zinto, eaglefan, lonestargirl, simbo klice, danny, the jackal, cougarfreak, britrock, crimsonfox, JAG, bhlloy, darth vilus, raiders army, kwhit

yet to vote - Chief Rum, GoldenEagle

[bhlloy]

Narc - what would you have had me do? Hold off on the Chief information until a later date when it could no longer be good info? Wait to hit another evil with the knowledge they were much more likely to be only infected?

I get that I should have given us at least a bit of voting record today (although I still wouldn't have waited that long because then you get the chance that I go up on the block and nobody believes the reveal), but right now the chances of us hitting one of the actual evil people in the game is 3 in 5 and could even be 3 in 4. We're not going to get those odds again, especially because one of the nurses is dead. I just don't see the "other" play here

[CrimsonFox]

Something tells me Chief is not going to nightfall :P

[CrimsonFox]

hey bhlloy, mau! what's shakin!

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Narc - what would you have had me do? Hold off on the Chief information until a later date when it could no longer be good info? Wait to hit another evil with the knowledge they were much more likely to be only infected?

Like I said I have a problem with the way everyone voted nightfall, not with your reveal. I know reveals are hard. You've said you think you probably should have held off revealing till later in the day so I don't really have an issue with your play.

[Narcizo]

We obviously don't want to nightfall until everyone's deciding what to do tonight. So I shan't be in a hurry to nightfall. I'll do it before I go to bed though.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

hey bhlloy, mau! what's shakin!

Being woken up at 5:30am by our belgian shepherd puppy, unfortunately

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Being woken up at 5:30am by our belgian shepherd puppy, unfortunately

HOT DOG!

[CrimsonFox]

one of these?

[bhlloy]

She looked a lot like that when she was really small yeah, except completely black. Now she's 5 months and already 50lbs. But she's a fun dog. When I get home this evening I'll have to figure out how to attach photos.

[JAG]

Narc, I would suggest not submitting your nightfall vote at all. If Chief is the cultist or mummy, he could submit his nightfall order at a time when bhlloy isn't around to give his N0 scan. I think that scan is more useful than has been suggested because we know that person wasn't one of the three starting wolves. Yeah they might be able to be converted later, but it removes the possibility that that person is one of the initial three we have to find. It makes for a dull day, but it makes sure we get the scan info from bhlloy at a time when the wolves won't be able to do something about it, assuming bhlloy can be around for the 10pm deadline.

So, Narc and GE, I recommend not voting nightfall.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

She looked a lot like that when she was really small yeah, except completely black. Now she's 5 months and already 50lbs. But she's a fun dog. When I get home this evening I'll have to figure out how to attach photos.

Hit the GO ADVANCED button at the bottom (next to Post Quick Reply button)
When you get to the next view, click the paperclip.
Another small window will appear.

Hit one of the browse buttons.
The file upload window will appear.
select your file.
(doubleclick it or once and hit OPEN button.)

CLICK the UPLOAD button.
Close this small window (hit the X)

Now back on the other page hit the paperclip again. Your picture file name will be there.
Mouse down to it and select it.

In the entry box will appear:
(left bracket) then a number it assigns it (right bracket)

That's it.
Then hit SUBMIT REPLY button
(or you can hit PREVIEW POST button to see it worked first before submitting)

Make sure the picture isn't too big. Keep it under about 600 pixels or so max.
You'll have to shrink it in another program if it's too big..

[Chief Rum]

It's too bad you guys all nightfall'd so quickly. I might have cut you a deal. Chosen not to use the Brutal ability for instance. Or tell you who the first Infected is, give you a chance to cure him or her.

Oh well...

I tried, Danny, my sweet.

[mauchow]

vote nightfall

I am good with this.

[Passacaglia]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[Chief Rum]

VOTE BHLLOY
VOTE NIGHTFALL

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Something tells me Chief is not going to nightfall :P

Hopefully that won't hold things up. I guess it depends on who's running the game, but seems like nightfall shouldn't be held up just because the person dying doesn't do it.

[CrimsonFox]

bahaha

[bhlloy]

So who wants to hear n0 scan then?

[Passacaglia]

I liked the idea of doing it right before the night phase ends (i.e. before you're infected).

[bhlloy]

Yeah, good point

[Passacaglia]

On the other hand, I am bored..

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by JAG

Narc, I would suggest not submitting your nightfall vote at all. If Chief is the cultist or mummy, he could submit his nightfall order at a time when bhlloy isn't around to give his N0 scan. I think that scan is more useful than has been suggested because we know that person wasn't one of the three starting wolves. Yeah they might be able to be converted later, but it removes the possibility that that person is one of the initial three we have to find. It makes for a dull day, but it makes sure we get the scan info from bhlloy at a time when the wolves won't be able to do something about it, assuming bhlloy can be around for the 10pm deadline.

So, Narc and GE, I recommend not voting nightfall.

Good point about the value of positive scans at the start. Really the Mummy and transformers are all we should really be super-concerned about. Don't want to hold everyone up though.

[JAG]

Well, now that Chief has nightfall'ed, it's just you and GE, who at least are unknown rather than confirmed evil. So long as the last person to nightfall doesn't do it while bhlloy is out, it should be ok.

Basically if GE shows up while you're here and bhlloy is ok with the schedule, then we should be ok with nightfall, otherwise it might be wisest to wait.

[Narcizo]

There's more who have to nightfall anyway.

[Autumn]

Day 2 Vote Count

Chief Rum (16) - Passacaglia, Simbo Klice, JAG, Crimson Fox, Eagle Fan, LoneStarGirl, bhlloy, zinto, kwhit, danny, cougarfreak, the jackal, britrock, mauboy1, darth vilus, raiders army
narcizo (1) - narcizo
bhlloy (1) - chief rum

Nightfall (17) - zinto, eaglefan, lonestargirl, simbo klice, danny, the jackal, cougarfreak, britrock, crimsonfox, JAG, bhlloy, darth vilus, raiders army, kwhit, mauboy1, passacaglia, chief rum

yet to vote - GoldenEagle
yet to nightfall - GoldenEagle, Narcizo

[Zinto]

I am not upset with everyone voting nightfall because Chief had to go tonight. If in the worst case scenario you described Narcizo and he is a nurse who was converted we probably would have never or hopefully not for a while known if he was converted back. Our last doctor would have had to reveal for us to know if it was true and eventually he could have been just converted back.

[Zinto]

And if he is just an infected bhlloy gets another scan in, which could get us another hit on a baddie.