WW CXLVIII - Ancient Infection - EVIL WINS!

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Danny

As a villager youd be better off just ignoring everything ef says and not actually try to read anything. In fact, i just skip pver his posts without even reading them

I'm hurt.... Are you still mourning Chief, and that's making you so mean? After I posted Kings stuff for you...

Originally Posted by Simbo Klice

So, there's something to be gleaned from this. I doubt the Mummy would put Transformed onto the NK list, since it would mean no NK and a simple switchout. I'm not ready to vote yet, but a couple of those names on the infect list are high on my radar.

Sorry, but this made me laugh.

Originally Posted by Simbo Klice

Though he's doing his best to keep us off his scent, he's also trying to quarterback the scum team as well, which he can't do outside the thread.

This also made me laugh. You like that word scum?

Originally Posted by The Jackal

EF going down will help this situation a lot because we'll know that the transformed can't be replaced. So in my opinion the doctor should definitely not reveal, as he could be vital to winning (either by revealing nurse scanned infected or curing them) once the Mummy is gone and we hopefully take down some transformed

No! The doctor SHOULD absolutely reveal. We need to know who to trust! We know Danny will be infected tonight and can't be reasoned with after that. We need a new leader after his fall!!!

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I feel like I've been totally out of it this game. It sucks to have to read three or f our pages in one sitting nd truly understand what's being said in a game this elaborate. So even though I have a feeling this comment is laced with sarcasm, I am ready to sift through these posts and analyze away.

Why are you posting with Danny's phone?!?!

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Britrock is playing in this game? Damn, he has been under the radar.

While this is true, you may want to see why someone is posting with Danny's phone...

[EagleFan]

I just received a message that I have been cured!!!! All praise the Werewolf gods!!!! I'm a villager again!!!!!

Follow me to victory!!! Who is with me?!?!?!?!

[EagleFan]

Really, I just wanted my new sig to show up more times in the thread...

[EagleFan]

vote mau

[EagleFan]

Come on troops; it's a big day today. We need to be active. We can eradicate those wolves starting today!!!!


(a bit much? )

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Britrock is playing in this game? Damn, he has been under the radar.

heh I keep forgetting that too except for the low-post list I posted before.

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[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by JAG

Vote LoneStarGirl

I don't see a compelling reason to accept either mauboy or Simbo at this time, so I'm pulling in a Zinto voter. No real rhyme or reason with her over the other ones (other than I feel somewhat ok with Jackak by vibe). I don't see the value in looking at RA, CF, or the others who voted Julio for now.

This post strikes me as a bit odd. All indications are that voting is going to be either mauboy or sumbo and you pull a candidate out of left field. I am not sure what that means.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I just received a message that I have been cured!!!! All praise the Werewolf gods!!!! I'm a villager again!!!!!

Follow me to victory!!! Who is with me?!?!?!?!

okay funny man, so I'll follow you. what would you do if I did this, then?

vote mauboy

[Danny]

unvote simbo
vote simbo

Just in case it was missed

[CrimsonFox]

yeah Danny. autumn's being nitpicky (aka bitchy )and wouldn't accept the Kimbo thing. Simbo did you choose that name just to avoid lycnhing in any possible ww games you might find?

[mauchow]

Its laughable if I'm considered today. Which makes you suspect if you're trying to get that started.

[Danny]

Oh and we're on day 4 and Kwhit has 7 total posts in the whole thread.

1. Signing up
2. Comment about Le Michele
3. Complaint about me switching votes
4. Apology for missing day 1 vote
5. vote of chief rum with no explanation
6. night fall vote with no explanation
7. vote of eagle last night with no explanation

[CrimsonFox]

in and out today. GOing to the doctor as the heated pool, while nice, hasn't really been helping. Will be on various times definitely try to be on before deadline.

[britrock88]

Let's remember to be wary of EF's vote-boosting power. His vote is on mau, but he may have chosen one of the transformed's votes to boost today.

[mauchow]

And I see we've got ourselves a princess bride showdown.

[Danny]

A mau vote is ridiculous. The odds are heavily in favor of him being the one telling the truth. If you are choosing between the two, Simbo is the right vote. If you think we should go elsewhere and let the wolves clear it up, I can understand that.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

And I see we've got ourselves a princess bride showdown.

i don't remember what that is but it probably ended in failure.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Danny

A mau vote is ridiculous.

+1. He's either the seer or cultist, neither of whom we want to vote.

[mauchow]

YouTube iocane powder battle o wits. I can't link easily from phone.

[Zinto]

I changed my mind on keeping Simbo alive if you think he is bad. Another of the infected can just bite him to change him back to just an infected. Honestly, if you think that he is the one who is bad you have to vote for him today so that whoever is infected cannot take his powers and hide.

[Zinto]

And it would make sense why Simbo is pushing for us to let it play out, he knows that if Mau is nightkilled then he accomplished getting the seer lynched if one of the infected try to kill him they just take his power making him more expendable.

[Danny]

So the odds right now is that we have a mummy, two transformed and two infected. Plus a cultist.

Simbo can only be transformed if the doctor was paying attention. Mau can only be cultist if evil.

The mummy will be dead fairly soon which means there will be no new transformed at that point.

I am thinking we roll the dice on lynching Simbo because then two things will happen if we are correct. #1, one of the infected become transformed making it one mummy, two transformed and one infected (and that's if the two pervious bites were both successful). Then tonight's bite will fail. If we lynch a non transformed / infected today then we are likely left with one mummy, two transformed and three infected and things are not looking good.

[mauchow]

My votes on him. Not sure who you're talking to.

[Danny]

AND EVEN IF SIMBO IS TELLING THE TRUTH, LYNCHING MAU DOES NOT HELP US

[Zinto]

If you were responding to me Mau, I was speaking in the general you of the whoever reads my post.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

My votes on him. Not sure who you're talking to.

Uh, everyone

[Danny]

Just again, even if Mau is the cultist, lynching him still will leave us with a mummy, two transformed and three infected after tonight. There is no upside in lynching Mau. There is significant upside in lynching Simbo

[Zinto]

There is a chance that Danny is infected, and knows he is. He then gets cleared by Mau today(which is not a bad moved if he is fake revealing) and knows that Mau is lying, so he pushed hard for Simbo to be lynched.

[Zinto]

I am not sure how likely that is but it is a possibility.

[Zinto]

Just based on how reveals and counter-reveals work, I will probably vote for Simbo. It makes more sense then probably anyone else that you could vote for based on three days of really no voting records.

[Narcizo]

Yeah, I can't believe that there's still talk about lynching mau. I obviously ought to have pointed out why I thought Raiders voting mau was "bat-shit insane". I just kind of thought that it was obvious.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Zinto

There is a chance that Danny is infected, and knows he is. He then gets cleared by Mau today(which is not a bad moved if he is fake revealing) and knows that Mau is lying, so he pushed hard for Simbo to be lynched.

This post is illogical captain.

1. If Mau is lying and the cultist, he would have no idea if I was infected or not.

2. If Mau is lying the cultist, I would not know this. Whether or not I am infected, I do not have more information than any villager.

[The Jackal]

I have to agree with Danny/others, there is no sense in lynching mau here. I tend to think it would be best to leave Simbo alive too and force the wolves into a game of chicken to let them see how long they want to leave the seer alive before attacking one of them, but if we're going to vote for one of those two it has to be the one that might be transformed

[The Jackal]

And I believe someone said this as well, if Simbo is transformed, leaving him alive until after EF is dead is actually better for the village, since an infected wouldn't replace him

[Danny]

Remember, infected do not know the roles of anyone. And cultist sure as heck doesn't know who becomes infected

[Danny]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I have to agree with Danny/others, there is no sense in lynching mau here. I tend to think it would be best to leave Simbo alive too and force the wolves into a game of chicken to let them see how long they want to leave the seer alive before attacking one of them, but if we're going to vote for one of those two it has to be the one that might be transformed

nking the cultist isnt so bad. If we leave them both alive, wolves guess on the correct person, likely killing Mau, doesn't hurt them much at all as he is still a villager for win conditions purposes. Additionally we are then left with two extra infected tomorrow.

The current infected would actually be stupid to not try and kill the seer. But in this particular game, there is risk in waiting because it mean more infected.

[Danny]

My vote is not changing

[The Jackal]

Taking out a transformed is always good, this is true

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Danny

This post is illogical captain.

1. If Mau is lying and the cultist, he would have no idea if I was infected or not.

2. If Mau is lying the cultist, I would not know this. Whether or not I am infected, I do not have more information than any villager.

I am not saying that he would know that you are infected, I was saying that if he picked you to scan or fake scan and said you were a villager and you were actually infected you could push to lynch Simbo because you would know that he was the seer. I was trying to play devil's advocate but I realized that Mau could just say anyone was a villager and it would not really matter because if he is wrong then the baddies just know he is the cultist.

[Danny]

Also, at BEST we would get one more scan in even if the wolves guess wrong. Because tomorrow night the mummy hunter kills EF and he brutals the seer.

Additionally, if we go to lynch others, yes we will get more vote information, but we will also potentially be lynching the mummy hunter or the doctor. The mummy hunter especially we can not afford to lynch before he takes his night action tonight. Lynching Simbo is the safe and correct call today

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I am not saying that he would know that you are infected, I was saying that if he picked you to scan or fake scan and said you were a villager and you were actually infected you could push to lynch Simbo because you would know that he was the seer. I was trying to play devil's advocate but I realized that Mau could just say anyone was a villager and it would not really matter because if he is wrong then the baddies just know he is the cultist.

Ok, this is true. If I was infected, I would know Mau was the cultist then

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I have to agree with Danny/others, there is no sense in lynching mau here. I tend to think it would be best to leave Simbo alive too and force the wolves into a game of chicken to let them see how long they want to leave the seer alive before attacking one of them, but if we're going to vote for one of those two it has to be the one that might be transformed

I changed my mind on keeping him alive till Eagle is gone. The infected would just be smart to nighkill him to switch places with him and make him an incurable infected and them the new transformed.

[The Jackal]

I think Danny is right here, EF will know if Simbo is transformed or not and would be taking out the seer when he dies anyways.

VOTE SIMBO

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Zinto

There is a chance that Danny is infected, and knows he is. He then gets cleared by Mau today(which is not a bad moved if he is fake revealing) and knows that Mau is lying, so he pushed hard for Simbo to be lynched.

That thought went through my head too. Mau has to pick a scan target and chooses Danny. Danny realized mau is the cultist because he cleared him, this he knows Simbo is seer and pushes for his lynch. Remember, yesterday Danny was talking about letting them sort themselves out, today it's different.

The downside of that play is that he becomes an obvious cure target for the doctor, but taking out the seer in a lynch isn't a terrible trade-off.

I'm not saying this is for sure what happened, but I do have some level of uncertainty.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I changed my mind on keeping him alive till Eagle is gone. The infected would just be smart to nighkill him to switch places with him and make him an incurable infected and them the new transformed.

Yeah. I guess the seer is boned either today or tomorrow anyways

[Danny]

Originally Posted by JAG

Remember, yesterday Danny was talking about letting them sort themselves out, today it's different.

Yes, I was discussing that thought, but as I work through the possibilities, that does not seem smart anymore. I am always someone willing and wanting to further work out things in thread and in my head and potentially change my mind

[Zinto]

Ok, so this can really go only a couple of ways:

1. We lynch Simbo. He is the seer, and we find out that his scans were good scans and that Mau is the cultist.

2. We lynch Simbo. He is a transformed and Mau more than likely bites the dust tonight.

3. We lynch someone not named Simbo. We get another day of scans but we take the chance of Simbo being a transformed instead of an infected and becoming an incurable infected. Or he is just and infected so it doesn't matter.

I say that the least risk is lynching Simbo either way we are going to lose our seer before we get another scan in.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I say that the least risk is lynching Simbo either way we are going to lose our seer before we get another scan in.

I agree, plus it guarentees we don't put the mummy hunter in danger tonight

[Danny]

Killing the mummy is of utmost important, probably more so then anything else actually.

[Zinto]

Unless there is enough people that think that extra scan is really valuable then maybe we should take it. I do not think it is worth the extra day of having to have the same discussions tomorrow.