Werewolf LXXV - Rise of the Great Old Ones -Students Win!!!! - Page 29

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 04:01 PM

Vote tally through post 1400:

(7) Alan T: Passacaglia (1253), Racer (1254), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354), Mrs. Schmidty (1396)

(4) Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334)

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

At the center of the campus, stands the historic, three story Orne Library. ......even more interesting is the mysterious Vault in the bowels of the building. .....forbidden books of ancient knowledge, dark grimoires of twisted rituals.... There is even the belief that the Vault may harbor the last existing copy of a tome so vile that it is said to have the power to bring back the dead to an “unlife” of servitude to the invoker. Worse yet, the tome may hold an even greater power – the power to rouse beings that a sane person could never fathom, nor would ever want to. That tome is called the Necronomicon

For reference

oliegirl · 06-17-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

In Schmidy's very first post explaining the story he said that the Necronomicon was kept in the Libray Vault. In my reveal I said that EF pulled a book from Telle's bag, open it and recited an incantation that rezed her from the dead. I thought it was obvious (no disrespect meant) that the book was the Necronomicon.

When it was asked how her job at the library might benefit her I thought I would point out that's how she got the book.

No offense Mrs S, but that seems like quite a stretch to me. We have no reason thus far to believe that Telle was in the library vault (unless I missed something). It might be true, but considering there has been no discussion or hints given that this book was the Necronomicon, to make that statement like you did and then give a reason like "I thought it was obvious", well it's pinging my wolfdar pretty hard.

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

No offense Mrs S, but that seems like quite a stretch to me. We have no reason thus far to believe that Telle was in the library vault (unless I missed something). It might be true, but considering there has been no discussion or hints given that this book was the Necronomicon, to make that statement like you did and then give a reason like "I thought it was obvious", well it's pinging my wolfdar pretty hard.

LOL that's funny to me.

oliegirl · 06-17-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

LOL that's funny to me.

I just think you need to really think things through before you post them, you are saying things which very well may be true, but the way you are saying them and assuming that everyone is following along with your train of thought, is, at least in my opinion, making you look suspicious. The "I LIVE" comment from day 1 combined with this is what's doing it for me. That's all I'm saying...

path12 · 06-17-2008, 04:15 PM

I have to say that I figured that any book mentioned was the Necromicon, so my wolfdar isn't quite as pinged.

oliegirl · 06-17-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

I have to say that I figured that any book mentioned was the Necromicon, so my wolfdar isn't quite as pinged.

But then Telle wouldn't be the Librarian, she would be The Bearer of the Necronomican, right? Maybe I'm over simplifying, but I don't like to assume anything in ww.

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

But then Telle wouldn't be the Librarian, she would be The Bearer of the Necronomican, right? Maybe I'm over simplifying, but I don't like to assume anything in ww.

I don't see anywhere in Schmidty's post about a Librarian.

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 04:32 PM

Telle had a book, EF killed her and used the book to res her. According to Telle she had a part time job in the library which gave her knowledge of the building's layout, which gave her access to the Necronomicon. The Necronomicon is believed to be albe to res people and make them servants to those that res them, therefore converting them. Again, I thought it was obvious that's why I didn't draw it out.

As far as the "I live" statement, I don't regret saying it in the least. It showed me just how intensely EVERYTHING is analyzed. I'm still happy that as of today, "I live!"

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 04:35 PM

If Telle is the Bearer of the Necronomicon, we need to lynch her now, people. Trust me on this one.

UNVOTE ALAN T
VOTE TELLE

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

If Telle is the Bearer of the Necronomicon, we need to lynch her now, people. Trust me on this one.

UNVOTE ALAN T
VOTE TELLE

Oh suuuuure... I've been saying for 9 hours this but now we have to trust you??? What about trust ME???

Everyone just assumes that I am up to no good, all I am trying to do is help you out here.

path12 · 06-17-2008, 04:40 PM

I would love it if someone scanned Pass. Sooner rather than later. I'd like to know whether I should trust him or not.

LoneStarGirl · 06-17-2008, 04:40 PM

I am with the group that says we should go after the known wolf.

vote telle

And my major is criminal justice... which was not listed in that previous posts of majors.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

I would love it if someone scanned Pass. Sooner rather than later. I'd like to know whether I should trust him or not.

I trust him

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I trust him

Me too. Seriously, there's no need to scan me. Racer, if you feel like I'm the best option, just tell everyone I'm a wolf, and save your scan on someone else.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Me too. Seriously, there's no need to scan me. Racer, if you feel like I'm the best option, just tell everyone I'm a wolf, and save your scan on someone else.

Looks like after we lynch Telle today, you all will be going after Pass tommorrow.

Let me tell you here and now that you wouldn't be voting for a wolf!

Just trying to help save scans for more useful targets. So in otherwords, I agree with Pass, no reason to scan him at all.

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 04:45 PM

Updated count through post 1415 (also includes Chief's vote that was not before included)

7 Alan T: Chief Rum (1233), Racer (1254), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354), Mrs. Schmidty (1396)

6 Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334), Passacaglia (1410), LoneStarGirl (1413)

RendeR · 06-17-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

In Schmidy's very first post explaining the story he said that the Necronomicon was kept in the Libray Vault. In my reveal I said that EF pulled a book from Telle's bag, open it and recited an incantation that rezed her from the dead. I thought it was obvious (no disrespect meant) that the book was the Necronomicon.

When it was asked how her job at the library might benefit her I thought I would point out that's how she got the book.

It was not obvious to anyone no familiar with the genre (or that hasn't really re-read the intro page since day 1)

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

LOL that's funny to me.

But its true, as you play more you'll find that generalizing your posts instead of being very explicit with them will lead to a lot of suspicion.

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

Telle had a book, EF killed her and used the book to res her. According to Telle she had a part time job in the library which gave her knowledge of the building's layout, which gave her access to the Necronomicon. The Necronomicon is believed to be albe to res people and make them servants to those that res them, therefore converting them. Again, I thought it was obvious that's why I didn't draw it out.

As far as the "I live" statement, I don't regret saying it in the least. It showed me just how intensely EVERYTHING is analyzed. I'm still happy that as of today, "I live!"

A- you can't actually KNOW she had the book or that she had access to the necronomican.

B- If somehow you did specifically know these theings then you should have been much more specific about it when you revealed. I enjoyed your little story but glossing over plot points for the sake of prose doesn't help us here.

Thank you for clarifying what you meant.

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Looks like after we lynch Telle today, you all will be going after Pass tommorrow.

Let me tell you here and now that you wouldn't be voting for a wolf!

Just trying to help save scans for more useful targets. So in otherwords, I agree with Pass, no reason to scan him at all.

I'm just trying to leave it up to Racer. I'm asking him not to scan me, so he can use the scan on someone else. I realize that makes me look suspicious (I'm not a newbie here), and I'm fine with that. But I don't want to force Racer's hand. If he feels like I'm the best option, then I'd still rather he just gets me lynched, and uses the scan to find out about someone else.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm just trying to leave it up to Racer. I'm asking him not to scan me, so he can use the scan on someone else. I realize that makes me look suspicious (I'm not a newbie here), and I'm fine with that. But I don't want to force Racer's hand. If he feels like I'm the best option, then I'd still rather he just gets me lynched, and uses the scan to find out about someone else.

Works for me, but like I said you're in my COT.. Hopefully everyone else will see our logic here too.

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

Updated count through post 1415 (also includes Chief's vote that was not before included)

7 Alan T: Chief Rum (1233), Racer (1254), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354), Mrs. Schmidty (1396)

6 Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334), Passacaglia (1410), LoneStarGirl (1413)

Thanks for the updated vote count. Seriously, if the Necronomicon was in Telle's bag, we need to lynch her TONIGHT.

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Works for me, but like I said you're in my COT.. Hopefully everyone else will see our logic here too.

I think people will at least realize that I must have a good reason to be acting like this, despite your efforts to hurt m by siding with me!

oliegirl · 06-17-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

I don't see anywhere in Schmidty's post about a Librarian.

In post #1394 where you answered for Telle, someone (don't remember without going back and looking again) asked if Telle's part time job at the library had any bearing on the game. To me, someone who works at a library is a librarian.

Racer · 06-17-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I am with the group that says we should go after the known wolf.

vote telle

And my major is criminal justice... which was not listed in that previous posts of majors.

Both Telle and Alan T are known wolves. I will repeat this again for everyone to read. HOOPSGUY AND I CAN ONLY SCAN TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT A PLAYER IS A WOLF! If a player is not a wolf or a student, that player will scan as a villager. That means if anyone has alternate victory conditions, it would be Render.

Alan T is definitely a wolf.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think people will at least realize that I must have a good reason to be acting like this, despite your efforts to hurt m by siding with me!

Why would I want to hurt you? If it makes you feel any better my win condition doesn't have anything to do with killing you off!

Racer · 06-17-2008, 04:53 PM

The most important thing again today is to make sure that the wolves can't force a tie so I'm willing to lynch either one as long as we lynch the other one tomorrow.

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

In post #1394 where you answered for Telle, someone (don't remember without going back and looking again) asked if Telle's part time job at the library had any bearing on the game. To me, someone who works at a library is a librarian.

Thanks for making me look at post 1394 again, olie. I noticed that Mrs. Schmidty said she had ACCESS to the vault. She might not be the Bearer of the Necronomicon after all. I'd rather lynch her now just to be safe, but the fact that there's more doubt in my mind make me less frantic about it. Still, let's lynch Telle just to be safe -- again, trust me on this.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

Both Telle and Alan T are known wolves. I will repeat this again for everyone to read. HOOPSGUY AND I CAN ONLY SCAN TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT A PLAYER IS A WOLF! If a player is not a wolf or a student, that player will scan as a villager. That means if anyone has alternate victory conditions, it would be Render.

Alan T is definitely a wolf.

Don't throw poor Render under the bus, he doesn't have any alternate victory conditions. he is just a student. I am pretty sure the word wolf was not in your PM about me at all anywheres! You saw the same image I did when you tried to scan me, and I may be all scary and all, but that still doesn't make me a wolf.

RendeR · 06-17-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Thanks for the updated vote count. Seriously, if the Necronomicon was in Telle's bag, we need to lynch her TONIGHT.

You're forgetting the point that telle no longer has the book since EF ok it from her. WE lynched EF, where is the book now?

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Why would I want to hurt you? If it makes you feel any better my win condition doesn't have anything to do with killing you off!

In a shocking event, I actually believe that. You might not be TRYING to tell the truth, but hey.

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

You're forgetting the point that telle no longer has the book since EF ok it from her. WE lynched EF, where is the book now?

I'm not sure about that. If Telle is on the wolves side, they might just let her keep the Nec -- the Nark -- the Nac -- the book.

By the way, you were one of the people who didn't want to reveal a major, right?

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

You're forgetting the point that telle no longer has the book since EF ok it from her. WE lynched EF, where is the book now?

Telle has it back... which his why I personally need you to lynch Telle today. If you don't want to do it for the villagers, do it for me!

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

In a shocking event, I actually believe that. You might not be TRYING to tell the truth, but hey.

There is a subtle difference between me not telling everything and me lying! I'm not really lying about a whole lot today, but obviously keeping some things from you.

If I revealed everything either you all would lynch me for sure, or the wolves would night kill me. I have to guess the wolves care more about Racer and Mrs.Schmidty than me though, so I would live at least 2 more nights.. I'll only live at most 1 more day though unless you all find some other wolf to lynch instead of me

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

There is a subtle difference between me not telling everything and me lying! I'm not really lying about a whole lot today, but obviously keeping some things from you.

If I revealed everything either you all would lynch me for sure, or the wolves would night kill me. I have to guess the wolves care more about Racer and Mrs.Schmidty than me though, so I would live at least 2 more nights.. I'll only live at most 1 more day though unless you all find some other wolf to lynch instead of me

Do you have a chance of meeting your win condition in 1 day? If not, you might as well give up.

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

It was not obvious to anyone no familiar with the genre (or that hasn't really re-read the intro page since day 1)

But its true, as you play more you'll find that generalizing your posts instead of being very explicit with them will lead to a lot of suspicion.

A- you can't actually KNOW she had the book or that she had access to the necronomican.

B- If somehow you did specifically know these theings then you should have been much more specific about it when you revealed. I enjoyed your little story but glossing over plot points for the sake of prose doesn't help us here.

Thank you for clarifying what you meant.

I did not, do not know anything more than anyone else. My only exposure to lovecraft is hearing his name mentioned. I've never read, or seen his work before so I do not have any kind of advantage over anyone else. Honestly, I only read the initial post once, but I have a vivid imagination and pictured the library, vault and necronomicon in my head from day one. Just how my brain works.

I don't know how else to explain myself nor do I really think I need to. I see this, saw this, as more of a role playing game and not such a cut-throat analytical game. I thought there would be more clues given from the story teller, not just basing almost everything on what "he-said, she-said." I enjoy logic puzzles in RL for goodness sake and don't like to make assumptions that aren't based on hard evidence and am not used to having to spell things out.

As I said, I'll try to be more clear in the future. I feel like I'm being accused of cheating and not quite sure how to take that.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Do you have a chance of meeting your win condition in 1 day? If not, you might as well give up.

No, it is looking pretty grim for me right now.

(That is yet another truth I have told today by the way)

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 05:04 PM

Racer, you're in the thread, and have a vote on Alan. I've already asked you for a lot of trust, and I'm going to ask for some more. Please put your vote on Telle.

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Telle has it back... which his why I personally need you to lynch Telle today. If you don't want to do it for the villagers, do it for me!

I know EF took the book, but don't know that he gave it back to her....maybe he gave it to you...From what we know of the Nec when it's used to rez someone, they are then a servant. Would they give the book to a servant?

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Schmidty

I know EF took the book, but don't know that he gave it back to her....maybe he gave it to you...From what we know of the Nec when it's used to rez someone, they are then a servant. Would they give the book to a servant?

I wish they would give it to me. Unfortunately for me they found Telle before I did... which is why it would be nice if she could die.

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

In post #1394 where you answered for Telle, someone (don't remember without going back and looking again) asked if Telle's part time job at the library had any bearing on the game. To me, someone who works at a library is a librarian.

K, thought you meant the Librarian as a role seperate from the Bearer of the Nec. I see no evidence that someone can't be "both" when one isn't a set role.

Racer · 06-17-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Racer, you're in the thread, and have a vote on Alan. I've already asked you for a lot of trust, and I'm going to ask for some more. Please put your vote on Telle.

What's the vote at? I don't care all that much who we lynch today as long as we lynch the other one. The main thing I want to do is avoid a tie tonight.

oliegirl · 06-17-2008, 05:08 PM

Mrs S, I'm not trying to say you are a wolf...I'm just saying that by answering for Telle, and by saying something, then going back and giving details that you left out the first time - it just makes everyone scrutinize what you are saying more than we already do

Racer · 06-17-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

What's the vote at? I don't care all that much who we lynch today as long as we lynch the other one tomorrow. The main thing I want to do is avoid a tie tonight.

fixed.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

What's the vote at? I don't care all that much who we lynch today as long as we lynch the other one. The main thing I want to do is avoid a tie tonight.

7-6

Time to bring in the setup guy out of the pen.

Passacaglia · 06-17-2008, 05:10 PM

7 for Alan, 6 for Telle. I promise I will be after Alan tomorrow.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

7 for Alan, 6 for Telle. I promise I will be after Alan tomorrow.

Thats what all of the girls tell me

Racer · 06-17-2008, 05:12 PM

Unvote Alan T
Vote Telle

I don't know how Alan T has managed to wiggle his way out of being lynched two consecutive days.

Alan T · 06-17-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

Unvote Alan T
Vote Telle

I don't know how Alan T has managed to wiggle his way out of being lynched two consecutive days.

People would wisely rather lynch the wolves.

Mrs. Schmidty · 06-17-2008, 05:15 PM

UNVOTE ALAN
VOTE TELLE

All the reasons already given. Hopefully we learn more about what Alan knows, if we can trust anything he says. Racers has said Alan's a wolf, but that only makes Alan on level ground with Telle with his scan. If the Bearer of the Nec (at least she had it at one point) makes her more dangerous, then by all means I'll change my vote to her. Hope that makes sense

Racer · 06-17-2008, 05:16 PM

By the way, if both Mrs. S and I survive the night, Mrs. S should follow me a night from now. That way, if I die that night, she will hopefully see who kills me and we can nab another wolf (since Alan T and Telle will be gone by then).

It might not be a bad idea for Mrs. S to follow me tonight either if she can follow the same person back-to-back nights.

06-17-2008, 04:15 PM	#1406
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I have to say that I figured that any book mentioned was the Necromicon, so my wolfdar isn't quite as pinged. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

06-17-2008, 04:40 PM	#1412
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I would love it if someone scanned Pass. Sooner rather than later. I'd like to know whether I should trust him or not. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

06-17-2008, 04:01 PM	#1401
Mrs. Schmidty High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bellingham, WA	Vote tally through post 1400: (7) Alan T: Passacaglia (1253), Racer (1254), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354), Mrs. Schmidty (1396) (4) Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334)

06-17-2008, 04:32 PM	#1409
Mrs. Schmidty High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bellingham, WA	Telle had a book, EF killed her and used the book to res her. According to Telle she had a part time job in the library which gave her knowledge of the building's layout, which gave her access to the Necronomicon. The Necronomicon is believed to be albe to res people and make them servants to those that res them, therefore converting them. Again, I thought it was obvious that's why I didn't draw it out. As far as the "I live" statement, I don't regret saying it in the least. It showed me just how intensely EVERYTHING is analyzed. I'm still happy that as of today, "I live!"

06-17-2008, 04:35 PM	#1410
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	If Telle is the Bearer of the Necronomicon, we need to lynch her now, people. Trust me on this one. UNVOTE ALAN T VOTE TELLE

06-17-2008, 04:40 PM	#1413
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I am with the group that says we should go after the known wolf. vote telle And my major is criminal justice... which was not listed in that previous posts of majors.

06-17-2008, 04:45 PM	#1417
Mrs. Schmidty High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bellingham, WA	Updated count through post 1415 (also includes Chief's vote that was not before included) 7 Alan T: Chief Rum (1233), Racer (1254), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354), Mrs. Schmidty (1396) 6 Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334), Passacaglia (1410), LoneStarGirl (1413)

06-17-2008, 04:53 PM	#1426
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	The most important thing again today is to make sure that the wolves can't force a tie so I'm willing to lynch either one as long as we lynch the other one tomorrow.

06-17-2008, 05:04 PM	#1437
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Racer, you're in the thread, and have a vote on Alan. I've already asked you for a lot of trust, and I'm going to ask for some more. Please put your vote on Telle.

06-17-2008, 05:10 PM	#1445
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	7 for Alan, 6 for Telle. I promise I will be after Alan tomorrow.

06-17-2008, 05:12 PM	#1447
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Unvote Alan T Vote Telle I don't know how Alan T has managed to wiggle his way out of being lynched two consecutive days.

06-17-2008, 05:15 PM	#1449
Mrs. Schmidty High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bellingham, WA	UNVOTE ALAN VOTE TELLE All the reasons already given. Hopefully we learn more about what Alan knows, if we can trust anything he says. Racers has said Alan's a wolf, but that only makes Alan on level ground with Telle with his scan. If the Bearer of the Nec (at least she had it at one point) makes her more dangerous, then by all means I'll change my vote to her. Hope that makes sense

06-17-2008, 05:16 PM	#1450
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	By the way, if both Mrs. S and I survive the night, Mrs. S should follow me a night from now. That way, if I die that night, she will hopefully see who kills me and we can nab another wolf (since Alan T and Telle will be gone by then). It might not be a bad idea for Mrs. S to follow me tonight either if she can follow the same person back-to-back nights.

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