Werewolf XXXI: House of Frankenstein (Game Over) - Page 13

tanglewood · 08-15-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

His response was never going to clear him. It was either damn him or nothing...hoping i could get lucky, didnt, and am dropping it...oh well, worth a shot

Ok, I see. Never mind.

Grammaticus · 08-15-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

His response was never going to clear him. It was either damn him or nothing...hoping i could get lucky, didnt, and am dropping it...oh well, worth a shot

Agree and well played

st.cronin · 08-15-2006, 10:19 PM

Normally this sort of thing is frowned upon, but I don't think it will help anybody figure out who is who, so I'm not going to tell anybody to stop. I'm just going to watch and laugh.

Lathum · 08-15-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i don't. but this is a perfect example of why i wish people would be more transparent with what they're on to. the worst that can happen is you spook a wolf and they change their behavior...if they stay constant you've got em pegged, if they change then we realize they're a wolf. it's like shining a spotlight on a robber...it freezes them.

for god's sakes people...if you're working on a theory, even if you think it's bunk...at least post it in the thread so there's some record of it.

otherwise what's the point of being on a team? we might as we all be going at it alone!

this often gets people killed

DaddyTorgo · 08-15-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Normally this sort of thing is frowned upon, but I don't think it will help anybody figure out who is who, so I'm not going to tell anybody to stop. I'm just going to watch and laugh.

normally what is frowned upon?

DaddyTorgo · 08-15-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

this often gets people killed

but if it gets them killed we can go back and look at their theory (presumably their most recent) and see who they were looking at. with fewer wolves than villagers, if we did this we should presumably win...no?

if the wolves were to try to get crafty and wait they run the risk of us believing the person's theory and wiping them out before they can strike.

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

normally what is frowned upon?

Discussing the paramaters of your PM. You are allowed to put it in your own words to share stuff, but saying how many words are in your PM isnt really putting it your own words. I made sure to PM cronin before this all went down about it being ok or not, and he said it was.

DaddyTorgo · 08-15-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Discussing the paramaters of your PM. You are allowed to put it in your own words to share stuff, but saying how many words are in your PM isnt really putting it your own words. I made sure to PM cronin before this all went down about it being ok or not, and he said it was.

gotcha. didnn't wanna break an WW rules as a virgin

tanglewood · 08-15-2006, 10:23 PM

I suspect that the PMs to both sides were near identical anyway. Only one word needs to change.

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

but if it gets them killed we can go back and look at their theory (presumably their most recent) and see who they were looking at. with fewer wolves than villagers, if we did this we should presumably win...no?

if the wolves were to try to get crafty and wait they run the risk of us believing the person's theory and wiping them out before they can strike.

But then they kill someone on the wrong path and we go on a wild goose chase...welcome to WW

DaddyTorgo · 08-15-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

But then they kill someone on the wrong path and we go on a wild goose chase...welcome to WW

aaaah. i see. intriguing!

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

I suspect that the PMs to both sides were near identical anyway. Only one word needs to change.

Wrong. Wolves would need to be informed of who the other wolves are, as well as role capabilities. The masons would be informed of the other masons as well. Thats why the 4-word holds some value to me, despite what cronin says to the contrary. Its not going to damn anyone, but i think it cleared 4 people for me

tanglewood · 08-15-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Wrong. Wolves would need to be informed of who the other wolves are, as well as role capabilities. The masons would be informed of the other masons as well. Thats why the 4-word holds some value to me, despite what cronin says to the contrary. Its not going to damn anyone, but i think it cleared 4 people for me

Oooh, true. Didn't think of that. Nicely played then.

Maybe we should keep you alive in games more often.

molson · 08-15-2006, 10:32 PM

Couldn't the whole origin of this be a trap? In light of his participation since then, couldn't this just be a fun high risk/high reward kind of the deal?

Unless I'm still two steps behind - which some people apparently find suspicious for some reason.

Lathum · 08-15-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

but if it gets them killed we can go back and look at their theory (presumably their most recent) and see who they were looking at. with fewer wolves than villagers, if we did this we should presumably win...no?

if the wolves were to try to get crafty and wait they run the risk of us believing the person's theory and wiping them out before they can strike.

pretty much what Blade said. Most of the time you are looking at another innocent and what happens is you get two innocents going at each other muddeling things up while the wolves sit back and let them self destruct.

That's the reason why I backed off Blade today, why create confusion and make it eaiser for the wolves.

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Couldn't the whole origin of this be a trap? In light of his participation since then, couldn't this just be a fun high risk/high reward kind of the deal?

Unless I'm still two steps behind - which some people apparently find suspicious for some reason.

Huh? Who are you referring to?

DaddyTorgo · 08-15-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

pretty much what Blade said. Most of the time you are looking at another innocent and what happens is you get two innocents going at each other muddeling things up while the wolves sit back and let them self destruct.

That's the reason why I backed off Blade today, why create confusion and make it eaiser for the wolves.

aaaah. okay. that makes sense. i think i'm starting to get it a lil more

DaddyTorgo · 08-15-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Huh? Who are you referring to?

i think you. methinks someone is trying to clumsily shift suspicion onto you Blade...

bulletsponge · 08-15-2006, 10:36 PM

11 of us in here now, someone throw in thier 2c that hasnt said much

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:37 PM

dodgerchick, fouts, swaggs....please talk a bit.

Farrah was here for awhile and didnt say a word either...being quiet only helps the wolves.

bulletsponge · 08-15-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i think you. methinks someone is trying to clumsily shift suspicion onto you Blade...

Blade doesnt need help doing that, he can do it all on his own!

bulletsponge · 08-15-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

dodgerchick, fouts, swaggs....please talk a bit.

Farrah was here for awhile and didnt say a word either...being quiet only helps the wolves.

yea, it isnt like you have to post some crazy conspiracy theory or act like you have a clue as to whats happening like everyone else.

Lorena · 08-15-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

dodgerchick, fouts, swaggs....please talk a bit.

Farrah was here for awhile and didnt say a word either...being quiet only helps the wolves.

Well, I have absolutely no theories and feel a little lost. Seems as if there are a lot scenarios and I'm trying to process them all.

2 brain cells can only take so much ya know.

molson · 08-15-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Huh? Who are you referring to?

In terms of finding me suspicious? Well, you and Lathum have mentioned me by name.

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Well, I have absolutely no theories and feel a little lost. Seems as if there are a lot scenarios and I'm trying to process them all.

2 brain cells can only take so much ya know.

Talk through your thoughts with me, what do you think of the 2 night kills so far?

Lathum · 08-15-2006, 10:44 PM

In defense of the newer players I think they may be a little intimidated and afraid they will say the wrong thing and get jumped all over.

I would like to hear some other opinions.

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

In terms of finding me suspicious? Well, you and Lathum have mentioned me by name.

Path and i did, i believe, but we said more you werent apart of our COT as your suspicious. This whole scenario was more to clear villagers then damn wolves. Your not in any real danger yet, especially if your a wolf. Right now were just trying to gain trust.

Grammaticus · 08-15-2006, 10:44 PM

Here is what I have so far

Golden
Grammaticus
noddadropp - Lynched
Saldana - Night Kill
Chubby – Lynched day two
AlanT – Killed night two

Leaning towards trust, plus is greater and minus not as sure
Blade +
Schmidty +
Path +
Tanglewood -

Neutral
Swaggs -
Sndvls +
Bulletsponge
Daddytorgo
Chief Rum -
Farah -

Leaning towards bad – In order of Concern
Lathum
Molson
Fouts
GoldenEagle

Not enough to opine
Anxiety
greyroofoo
Dodgerchick

molson · 08-15-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

yea, it isnt like you have to post some crazy conspiracy theory or act like you have a clue as to whats happening like everyone else.

Exactly - don't be fooled by the apparent confidence in the last few pages. No one has any clue what's going on - that's why we have 4 dead villagers, none of whom were masons. Anyone's gut instincts could be right on at this point.

Abe Sargent · 08-15-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

Blade doesnt need help doing that, he can do it all on his own!

That's very true. Blade's style can irritate some players because he tries to push people to see what's under them. Some players don't lika the pusha

Of course, I've voted for Blade before, but I've never done so out of spite, and this game he's been less Blade. Sort of like the square root of Blade.

-Anxiety

Fouts · 08-15-2006, 10:48 PM

Sorry, just got back and catching up on 4 pages. Since people are putting a lot of credit into what could be in our pm's, none of the words in my pm rhymed with aloof, but one rhymed with pillager.

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

and this game he's been less Blade. Sort of like the square root of Blade.

Is that good or bad buddy?

tanglewood · 08-15-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Exactly - don't be fooled by the apparent confidence in the last few pages. No one has any clue what's going on - that's why we have 4 dead villagers, none of whom were masons. Anyone's gut instincts could be right on at this point.

I think we do have a losely defined circle of trust established for now. Schmidty, Blade and Path for sure, and I would like to include myself in that as well but I am not sure if the the other three would.

Lorena · 08-15-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Talk through your thoughts with me, what do you think of the 2 night kills so far?

Well, it's a little intimidating to be honest with you. So much information is going around and it's taking a little time to process, that is all.

Lorena · 08-15-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

In defense of the newer players I think they may be a little intimidated and afraid they will say the wrong thing and get jumped all over.

I would like to hear some other opinions.

BINGO

Fouts · 08-15-2006, 10:51 PM

I'm not sure who broke the tie, but Gram looked more guilty than Chubby, so I have to assume that someone saved Gram for a reason. Therefore, I'm going to give him a pass and looked for another guilty target.

I'm not sure why I look suspicious to a couple of you. I am trying to challenge people and see where they stand.

I agree that it may be better to let the masons break ties. They know who the other masons are. Unfortunately, we have to somehow get a wolf in one of the ties.

tanglewood · 08-15-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Sorry, just got back and catching up on 4 pages. Since people are putting a lot of credit into what could be in our pm's, none of the words in my pm rhymed with aloof, but one rhymed with pillager.

Aloof? Do you say Woo-loof or something?

bulletsponge · 08-15-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Sorry, just got back and catching up on 4 pages. Since people are putting a lot of credit into what could be in our pm's, none of the words in my pm rhymed with aloof, but one rhymed with pillager.

sure, none in mine rhymed with smackula either

ohh and as far as these list of trust peeps are posting, i notice the more you post and talk shit the higher up the list you go

Lathum · 08-15-2006, 10:54 PM

Gramm, why do you have me as your least trusted player?

DaddyTorgo · 08-15-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

In defense of the newer players I think they may be a little intimidated and afraid they will say the wrong thing and get jumped all over.

I would like to hear some other opinions.

i'm new and i'm babbling like crazy. hopefully not stepping on any vet's toes as I try to learn how to play this all.

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Well, it's a little intimidating to be honest with you. So much information is going around and it's taking a little time to process, that is all.

Thats cool...trust me, im the master of being wrong. Ive single handidly lost of games with my sluething skills. You have to be willing to be wrong to have the chance to be right. People should be pretty understanding, and if not ill take care of them

Please talk about some of your thoughts...anything, even what the weather is like. If you choose not to, i understand totally. Just make sure above all else you have fun.

Fouts · 08-15-2006, 10:56 PM

My new theory is that one vet is the leader, and the rest of the wolfpack is hanging back and laying low.

bulletsponge · 08-15-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

I think we do have a losely defined circle of trust established for now. Schmidty, Blade and Path for sure, and I would like to include myself in that as well but I am not sure if the the other three would.

lol, why do they get trusted? cause they "trust" each other? do they know something we dont?

bulletsponge · 08-15-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

My new theory is that one vet is the leader, and the rest of the wolfpack is hanging back and laying low.

your laying low

Blade6119 · 08-15-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'm new and i'm babbling like crazy. hopefully not stepping on any vet's toes as I try to learn how to play this all.

Im considered a WW elitist, so take this to hold some value, i couldnt be happier with yours and the fellow new players games so far.

GoldenEagle · 08-15-2006, 10:57 PM

I do have some thoughts, but my bedtime is in 3 minutes.

Of course, I guess I could push that back for WW.

DaddyTorgo · 08-15-2006, 10:58 PM

Curious as to why Gram has GE listed so low when Blade and others have him so high? Why the disparity there...hmmm, food for thought.

Fouts · 08-15-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

your laying low

No, I challenged Grammaticus today. If I were laying low, I would be posting as much as Farrah or Grey.

Lathum · 08-15-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

My new theory is that one vet is the leader, and the rest of the wolfpack is hanging back and laying low.

don't take this the wrong way but that theory isn't really new...

bulletsponge · 08-15-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Im considered a WW elitist, so take this to hold some value, i couldnt be happier with yours and the fellow new players games so far.

pbbb yea, thats why the same list of peeps show up on your trust list every game

08-15-2006, 10:19 PM	#603
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Normally this sort of thing is frowned upon, but I don't think it will help anybody figure out who is who, so I'm not going to tell anybody to stop. I'm just going to watch and laugh. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-15-2006, 10:37 PM	#620
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	dodgerchick, fouts, swaggs....please talk a bit. Farrah was here for awhile and didnt say a word either...being quiet only helps the wolves. __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-15-2006, 10:57 PM	#646
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I do have some thoughts, but my bedtime is in 3 minutes. Of course, I guess I could push that back for WW. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

08-15-2006, 10:23 PM	#609
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	I suspect that the PMs to both sides were near identical anyway. Only one word needs to change.

08-15-2006, 10:32 PM	#614
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Couldn't the whole origin of this be a trap? In light of his participation since then, couldn't this just be a fun high risk/high reward kind of the deal? Unless I'm still two steps behind - which some people apparently find suspicious for some reason.

08-15-2006, 10:36 PM	#619
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	11 of us in here now, someone throw in thier 2c that hasnt said much

08-15-2006, 10:44 PM	#626
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	In defense of the newer players I think they may be a little intimidated and afraid they will say the wrong thing and get jumped all over. I would like to hear some other opinions.

08-15-2006, 10:44 PM	#628
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Here is what I have so far Golden Grammaticus noddadropp - Lynched Saldana - Night Kill Chubby – Lynched day two AlanT – Killed night two Leaning towards trust, plus is greater and minus not as sure Blade + Schmidty + Path + Tanglewood - Neutral Swaggs - Sndvls + Bulletsponge Daddytorgo Chief Rum - Farah - Leaning towards bad – In order of Concern Lathum Molson Fouts GoldenEagle Not enough to opine Anxiety greyroofoo Dodgerchick

08-15-2006, 10:48 PM	#631
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Sorry, just got back and catching up on 4 pages. Since people are putting a lot of credit into what could be in our pm's, none of the words in my pm rhymed with aloof, but one rhymed with pillager.

08-15-2006, 10:51 PM	#636
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm not sure who broke the tie, but Gram looked more guilty than Chubby, so I have to assume that someone saved Gram for a reason. Therefore, I'm going to give him a pass and looked for another guilty target. I'm not sure why I look suspicious to a couple of you. I am trying to challenge people and see where they stand. I agree that it may be better to let the masons break ties. They know who the other masons are. Unfortunately, we have to somehow get a wolf in one of the ties.

08-15-2006, 10:54 PM	#639
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Gramm, why do you have me as your least trusted player?

08-15-2006, 10:56 PM	#642
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	My new theory is that one vet is the leader, and the rest of the wolfpack is hanging back and laying low.

08-15-2006, 10:58 PM	#647
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Curious as to why Gram has GE listed so low when Blade and others have him so high? Why the disparity there...hmmm, food for thought.

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