(Nerd) Firefox, IE, Opera, and... Google Chrome?

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Well that's the common argument, but I find it hard not to put the fault on MS when nearly all third parties suffer from the same problem. Bottomline is Vista was trapped in development hell for almost 6 years and because of this they released it before the hardware manufactures could get drivers out the door(and before the OS itself was ready).

Umm, many manufacturers had good drivers for their latest stuff, but couldn't be bothered to do it for older ones. My USB HP scanner was a good case in point. Pretty much anything newer than it had Vista drivers, but nope, not mine that was only a couple of years old. That was HP's fault, not Microsoft's.

Some of the video card drivers I'll grant you, Microsoft should have been working harder with nvidia and ATI to make sure they had good drivers day one. Audio drivers aren't even worth mentioning, there is not a single company out there that can write a decent one, and thanks to that we don't get hardware-accelerated audio anymore.

MS also caved to Intel pressure and vastly lowered hardware requirements so Intel(I think or may have been Dell/HP) could badge their lower end machines as Vista capable. That's on MS, not Intel.

Granted, I agree on this one.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

It ran like ass on my multi-core, brand new machine.

It ran great on my wife's Core 2 Duo Dell (from release until Win7 went on it a few months ago), and sucky on my homebrew P4 3GHz, which went back to XP after the Vista SP1 fiasco.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Rizon

I haven't tried IE9 ... it just feels like going back to a Day Care center that molested you as a child.

Where's the QOTM button?

[ISiddiqui]

FWIW, I also think Vista was not that bad. I never had any problems with it. The only issue was nVidia took FOREVER getting a driver out for it (when ATI had drivers well before nVidia).

[Matthean]

FF4 is out and I downloaded it. While it took a second to adjust to it I like it so far.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Matthean

FF4 is out and I downloaded it. While it took a second to adjust to it I like it so far.

upgrade my portable FF to 4.0 and so far it's much faster than it previously was. Sadly, it broke my Roboform toolbar

FM

[kingfc22]

Just upgraded to FF 4.0 today as well.

Much faster!

[whomario]

is this now fully working/compatible with 64 bit systems ? Have had way more crashed since switching to windows 7 64bit from vista 32 and read that it doesn´t really support 64 bit.
I mean, it´s working but just not as well as i was used to.

How about addons, do those carry over from earlier 3.X versions ?

[JediKooter]

Sorry, but, using any IE version is pretty much like fucking a 45 year old hooker without a condom, after she's already had a 'busy' day.

Firefox is what I use and the only problems I've had, is it crashing from time to time.

[MJ4H]

Tried both IE9 and FF4 recently. Neither anywhere near the performance of Chrome in normal browsing. No dice.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by whomario

is this now fully working/compatible with 64 bit systems ? Have had way more crashed since switching to windows 7 64bit from vista 32 and read that it doesn´t really support 64 bit.
I mean, it´s working but just not as well as i was used to.

How about addons, do those carry over from earlier 3.X versions ?

No issues so far on Win7 64 bit.

[RainMaker]

Going to give the new FF a run in a few.

[Matthean]

IE 10 won't run on Vista. It's probably been since ME where MS distanced itself from an OS they made as fast as they could.

[Matthean]

And FF5 is out.

[fantom1979]

..... and Firefox 6 beta is due to be released in July. They have really jumped up the release schedule.

[jeff061]

Whole thing seems like such a PR move. Big number changes do not necessarily mean a massively sped up release schedule. Just the illusion of progress.

[Fidatelo]

Kind of reminds me of UFC events. I can't wait for Firefox 76 in September 2013.

[FrogMan]

any real big improvements from FF4 to FF5?

Just switched to FF4 and thought it was much faster than FF3.6 I had but I'm wondering if it's really necessary to go to FF5...

FM

[PackerFanatic]

I thought it was insane that as soon as I jumped up to FF4, I was getting notifications about upgrading to FF5.

[MJ4H]

App tabs are new in FF5 and pretty cool.

[jeff061]

App tabs were in 4, they any different in 5? I only don't use them because with my config I get more screen real estate when I don't have tabs open. App tabs are open all the time, so I lose that.

[MJ4H]

Weird, I didn't know they were in 4 and there was a big thing explaining them as a new feature when I upgraded to 5.

[fantom1979]

Never seen the app tabs before (that doesn't mean they weren't there, just didn't notice). Pretty cool feature.

[FrogMan]

yeah, I'm using FF4 and I got app tabs. Found about them when the FF Facebook page asked a question in FB about if anybody was using them...

FM

[Matthean]

I was lazy to see about getting some Kapersky add ons disabled that were making FF run really slow. I upgraded to FF5 and those were disabled. I'm happy once again.