Week 13 NFL Thread

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Romo just doesn't have "it."

Being confident and good, yes

[Scoobz0202]

There's that glorious Dallas red zone offense.

[Scoobz0202]

Cullen Jenkins with a snapped ankle that magically heals

[EagleFan]

Bryce Brown!!!

[cuervo72]

Grr, Witten.

[Buccaneer]

I was wondering what Sanchez was doing with that clipboard. Luckily, we have been able to find out:

[MrBug708]

haha...that just happened

[Julio Riddols]

Wow, Bryce Brown, huh?

[Bigsmooth]

Now that's a sweet back door cover...

[Suburban Rhythm]

John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin share awkward handshake after huge Steelers win

[Butter]

Originally Posted by rowech

Bengals couldn't catch a break with the Ravens losing. The loss to the Dolphins is looming bigger and bigger.

If the Bengals can't win their next 2 and at least get a split in the final 2 (@ Steelers, v. Ravens), they're not going to the playoffs anyway. And don't deserve to. It really comes down to beating the Steelers and Ravens in games that matter.... like they did a couple of years ago when they ran the division.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

No, expect the Rams to win. the Niners playcalling and offense has been beyond pitiful. I don't understand, given how Akers has gone, you can play for a 50+ yard field goal and not try and do more.

This. Hate to say it, but Harbaugh and his staff got outcoached yesterday. Running a risky toss play on third down, the play calling and execution after the Kaepernick run, and relying on Akers, who has some sort of injury, to kick a 50-yarder is asinine.

Hopefully, this game will serve as the proverbial kick-in-the-head a team needs before going on a championship run.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

If the Bengals can't win their next 2 and at least get a split in the final 2 (@ Steelers, v. Ravens), they're not going to the playoffs anyway. And don't deserve to. It really comes down to beating the Steelers and Ravens in games that matter.... like they did a couple of years ago when they ran the division.

I was counting on the Ravens having nothing to play for in week 17. I'm not sure that will be true. I think 9-7 and out by one game is the most likely outcome.

[BillJasper]

The hilarity in Philadelphia continues! Jim Washburn fired.

I can see Reid in his meeting with Loria now...

Reid - "We need to write off this year. It's not fair to fire me after I lost my defensive coordinator, defensive line coach and star defensive lineman. Plus, I was forced to start a rookie quarterback for part of the year."

Loria - "Get out."

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I was counting on the Ravens having nothing to play for in week 17. I'm not sure that will be true. I think 9-7 and out by one game is the most likely outcome.

The ravens will likely be fighting for either the 1 or 2 seed. I think anything is possible at this point, but the Bengals have a decent chance as Indy has to play Houston twice and has been punching above weight all season. And they play the steelers once more.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

The ravens will likely be fighting for either the 1 or 2 seed. I think anything is possible at this point, but the Bengals have a decent chance as Indy has to play Houston twice and has been punching above weight all season. And they play the steelers once more.

I don't think Baltimore has any shot at the 1 seed. Two losses back and lost to Houston H2H.

At best, they're fighting for the 2 seed.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

I don't think Baltimore has any shot at the 1 seed. Two losses back and lost to Houston H2H.

At best, they're fighting for the 2 seed.

Yeah, I think they are going to be fighting for a bye week which is plenty of motivation to play all out. I was hoping they'd have the bye wrapped and no chance at the one seed.

[Suburban Rhythm]

[bhlloy]

I love the guy in the white hat, who seems to be thinking "In my day, there was no crying on a football field" and then walks off disgusted

[Logan]

Kinda looks like Tom Berenger.

[Sun Tzu]

Didn't take long for Kaep to single-handedly lose a game for the 49ers. Ouch.

[Glengoyne]

OK so I missed the Niners and the Rams yesterday. How bad was it for Kaepernick and are we now looking at Harbaugh going back to Smith?

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Didn't take long for Kaep to single-handedly lose a game for the 49ers. Ouch.

That was the play call. Why get that fancy with that lead, at that time, in that end of the field?

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

The ravens will likely be fighting for either the 1 or 2 seed. I think anything is possible at this point, but the Bengals have a decent chance as Indy has to play Houston twice and has been punching above weight all season. And they play the steelers once more.

But one of those Indy/Houston matchups is week 17 when the Texans will almost certainly be playing all backups.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

But one of those Indy/Houston matchups is week 17 when the Texans will almost certainly be playing all backups.

Houston could very easily lose to New England next week, the Colts the week after that and then Week 17 will be for the division.

[bhlloy]

Don't forget that Kaepernick single handedly got them back in front, and if the play call had been run up the middle three times like it should have been the 49ers would have walked out of there with the win. Other than the pitch (terrible play call) and running out of bounds (terrible play call) I thought he was fine. I'd be far more concerned about the idiot offensive coordinator.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'd be far more concerned about the idiot offensive coordinator.

Probably been too busy interviewing for college jobs.

[stevew]

I hope someone audibles into the spread vs Tampa and throws a fuck you TD.

[stevew]

I believe that Barry Sanders was the best RB that I've ever seen play. However, I'm starting to think it might be Adrian Petersen.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by stevew

I hope someone audibles into the spread vs Tampa and throws a fuck you TD.

I hope the same thing.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by stevew

I believe that Barry Sanders was the best RB that I've ever seen play. However, I'm starting to think it might be Adrian Petersen.

Peterson is the best I've ever seen. I can't believe what he's done less than a year from a traumatic knee injury. Guy isn't human.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

That was the play call. Why get that fancy with that lead, at that time, in that end of the field?

Are you kidding? Did you see that pitch? You call plays that you think your team can execute. That pitch was horrific.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Peterson is the best I've ever seen. I can't believe what he's done less than a year from a traumatic knee injury. Guy isn't human.

We'll see what he does vs the Bears this week, but I think it's at least reasonable to think he might get 2000 yards this year. He needs 138.5/game to do that. 165 yards a game to break the record. Minnesota is playing for nothing, so they should try to get it for him.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Ryan Broyles is out with a torn ACL on his right knee. He tore the ACL on his left knee last year.

Titus Young was sent home again and is likely donezo. So, the Lions #2 receiver appears to be either Mike Thomas, a Jags castoff, or Tony Schefler, a tight end. Hell, they had Kassim Osgood lining up at WR Sunday at times.

Season's been a total waste. Well, at least we get to watch Megatron do super sweet stuff and maybe they'll get some good draft picks.

Sadly, it looks like last year is going to be the aberation. The Lions have a ton of UFAs on defense (like 8 out of 11 starters or something), don't have a ton of cap space thanks to mega deals for Calvin, Stafford and Suh and have an old offensive line.

[Matthean]

Wow just saw this on someone's status "Rihanna should date someone from the lions cuz they don't beat anybody"

From FB.

But yeah, the Lions are basically screwed cap wise. I would go over horribly, but I think letting Suh go might be for the better of the team. He's a huge cap hit, PR mess, and its not like the defense has been all that good.

[Suicane75]

I have a feeling Rhianna and Suh would get along swimmingly.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Are you kidding? Did you see that pitch? You call plays that you think your team can execute. That pitch was horrific.

I'm in this camp.

Kaep gift-wrapped 10 points (safety, bad pitch at the 2 yard line) for the Rams. Take those away, and the 49ers D only allowed a field goal in regulation. The play with the pitch - he didn't have to pitch the ball. He could have seen the opposing D sniffing out the play, and just run the ball up for a 2 yard loss. Running out of bounds was also a completely bonehead play. If he doesn't run out of bounds, the Rams have to A.) spend their last timeout, or B.) let the clock run down to sub 1 minute before Akers attempts the kick.

Nothing else matters beyond that. Kaep looked like a kid who was starting his third game. It happens.

FWIW, I'm in the "Start Kaep" camp too, and I fully expect him to have at least one additional ugly game before the year is out. I just hope that he doesn't have one this bad in the playoffs.

To answer Glengoyne's question, there's no way, IMO, that Harbaugh will go back to Smith now. Barring injury, Kaep is the new 49ers starting QB, and will be for the foreseeable future.

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Peterson is the best I've ever seen. I can't believe what he's done less than a year from a traumatic knee injury. Guy isn't human.

Barry was special, but was as like to get -7 as 70 yards on a given down. So I am in the school of thought that believes someone like AP, as if there are a lot in that class, would get you more down to down game after game.

[Glengoyne]

Wait the niners called a pitch option on their own two yard line? Or did I read that wrong, and they were at the Lamb's two?

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Wait the niners called a pitch option on their own two yard line? Or did I read that wrong, and they were at the Lamb's two?

Near their own and it's debatable whether the play call or the pitch was worse. I opt for the latter, but they were both atrocious.

[Glengoyne]

Wow...that would have to be a really bad pitch to be worse than a designed option out of your end zone.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Barry was special, but was as like to get -7 as 70 yards on a given down.

This was also in part because the Lions OL couldn't run block worth a damn.

[mckerney]

Even when RGIII screws up his team scores.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Wait the niners called a pitch option on their own two yard line? Or did I read that wrong, and they were at the Lamb's two?

Colin Kaepernick, Jim Harbaugh share blame for pitch - NFL.com

There is video there. The fun part is that they ruled it a TD as he was "untouched" even though Ted Ginn Jr is lying on his head as he recovers it...

But yeah, 3rd-and-3 from their own 17 with 3:15 left and a 10-2 lead (i.e. the opposing offense hasn't scored yet) and they try a long pitch after a fake handoff to Ted Ginn Jr doing an end-around. Why risk a pitch at all that deep in your own territory when you've been stuffing their offense all day? Run it up the middle, then punt. Any pitch is at a much higher fumble risk than any standard run.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by stevew

I hope someone audibles into the spread vs Tampa and throws a fuck you TD.

Well, we can at least agree on the hope that the offense attempts a pass.

[Glengoyne]

Well definitely a bad pitch. Not a good call, but I gotta join the camp laying the fault at Kaepernick's door.

Also. They almost tied again? That tells me two things. The rams have the Niners number and this wasn't all Kaepernick's fault.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by stevew

I hope someone audibles into the spread vs Tampa and throws a fuck you TD.

The thing is Schiano has done a great job this year and looks to be a legit nfl coach. It's a shame he is undoing all with that asinine tactic

[sabotai]

Giants really shot themselves in the foot with penalties, especially on special teams.

Here's the Giants' starting positions tonight
NYG 10
NYG 24
NYG 15
NYG 24
NYG 9
NYG 9
NYG 8
NYG 20

Nearly impossible to put up a lot of points when you're starting deep in your own territory on every single drive.

[EagleFan]

The good news for the Giants is that the Eagles won't be in the playoffs but first they need to get to the playoffs if they want another title.

(based on Manning being winless against the Eagles in the playoffs but unbeaten against everyone else in the playoffs)

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by stevew

I believe that Barry Sanders was the best RB that I've ever seen play. However, I'm starting to think it might be Adrian Petersen.

He's been amazing recently. In the last 6 games he has 947 yards rushing while gaining 7.8 yards a carry. And he's doing it with defenses keying solely on him without having to worry about stopping the pass. Over the same period the Vikings have 786 yards passing at 4.5 per attempt.