The Trump Presidency – 2016

[Ben E Lou]

A left-leaning PAC is putting these billboards up in rural Georgia counties.

There’s a reason the Georgia GOP and right wing groups continue attacking these billboards. They’re working. We need to raise an additional $67,000 to ensure over 40 of these go up across Georgia. Help us get this done. https://t.co/PSGDiRRAg0

— ReallyAmerican.com ���� (@ReallyAmerican1) December 2, 2020

[albionmoonlight]

I have to think that the best outcome for Trump would be for Perdue and Loeffler to lose based on GOP turnout being lower than in the general election.

That would really help him build the narrative of "See, y'all need me on the ballot" for the next four years.

I think that Perdue and Loeffler will win regardless b/c a lot of the "educated conservative suburban women" who voted against Trump will have no problems putting roadblocks in front of President Biden. But I actually have no idea whatesover.

[Lathum]

Genius. It makes you wonder how many Trump disciples have the mental acuity to grasp what’s happening with the senate, or if they don’t really care about government and were just swept up in the cult.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Genius. It makes you wonder how many Trump disciples have the mental acuity to grasp what’s happening with the senate, or if they don’t really care about government and were just swept up in the cult.

I think that they just enjoy the game. From what I can see, politics for the MAGAs is just another way of following sports.

Part of why they are supporting Trump's coup attempt is that they don't want the game to be over. Like that BW3 commercial where the fans kept rooting for overtime.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I think that they just enjoy the game. From what I can see, politics for the MAGAs is just another way of following sports.

Part of why they are supporting Trump's coup attempt is that they don't want the game to be over. Like that BW3 commercial where the fans kept rooting for overtime.

A large number of them love having people to hate and Trump makes it fun for them to hate others.

[albionmoonlight]

I'm not even kidding when I say that if college football were having a normal season, there'd be less MAGA interest in Georgia right now.

White Southern Boomers and Gen Xers are bored.

[JPhillips]

So Trump is going to veto the military budget because Twitter is mean to him.

And not a single GOPer is going to call him out for it.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

And not a single GOPer is going to call him out for it.

Worse, I suspect they just won't pass it so he won't have to veto it. And they will blame it on Pelosi. And the media will agree.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Worse, I suspect they just won't pass it so he won't have to veto it. And they will blame it on Pelosi. And the media will agree.

So Pelosi should counter by passing a bill with large increases in soldier salaries, funding for improvements in base-life, and large increases in military medical facilities. "Democrats care about our troops, and Republicans care about Trump's ego."

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I have to think that the best outcome for Trump would be for Perdue and Loeffler to lose based on GOP turnout being lower than in the general election.

That would really help him build the narrative of "See, y'all need me on the ballot" for the next four years.

I think that Perdue and Loeffler will win regardless b/c a lot of the "educated conservative suburban women" who voted against Trump will have no problems putting roadblocks in front of President Biden. But I actually have no idea whatesover.

I live here, and I can't tell you how this will go. History says Demcrats lose run-offs in Georgia. The Democratic base just doesn't show up for special elections. But then, Democrats don't win statewide elections in general, but Biden just won. The big question is will all this attacking of the election system keep the average GOP voter home? Or will the idea of giving Democrats a huge win make them angry enough to turn out in droves? I just don't see anyway to know until January 5th.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

So Trump is going to veto the military budget because Twitter is mean to him.

And not a single GOPer is going to call him out for it.

Brilliant move with a runoff in Georgia which is a state that takes in a big chunk of the military budget. Just 4D chess or whatever.

[RainMaker]

Project Veritas got a half million in taxpayer PPP funds.

[Edward64]

No details but looks like a breakthrough in SA vs Qatar is coming up. One more step towards SA normalization with Israel which will be fantastic.

Trump aside, I do think Kushner gets much of the credit in this process.

[albionmoonlight]

Today, I just thought about how crazy it was that the opposition party was fighting for (and PASSED) a huge stimulus that would have helped him get re-elected. And if he had put his weight behind it, the GOP would have had to go along. Whether or not you agree with it, it would have helped him get re-elected.

And he couldn't get it done.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Today, I just thought about how crazy it was that the opposition party was fighting for (and PASSED) a huge stimulus that would have helped him get re-elected. And if he had put his weight behind it, the GOP would have had to go along. Whether or not you agree with it, it would have helped him get re-elected.

And he couldn't get it done.

I don't think it would have been a sure thing to pass the $2.2T even with Trump's support. But yeah, I think he should have pushed harder back then.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Edward64

I don't think it would have been a sure thing to pass the $2.2T even with Trump's support. But yeah, I think he should have pushed harder back then.

He says jump, they ask how high.

If he had pushed, they would have passed it.

[Edward64]

Country may get a Christmas present soon.

What a difference a week makes.

On Monday, it looked like nothing was going to happen on stimulus. Now, it's possible a deal is brokered in a matter of days.
:
You saw an avalanche of positive comments coming from Republican senators on Thursday. They were open to this pathway, and that's because it's really the only option on the table right now that could become law

"I've never been more hopeful that we'll get a bill," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina.

The proposal includes:

• $300 a week in enhanced federal unemployment benefits (there is still a debate about how retroactive this could be)
• A continued pause on student loan payments
• Eviction moratorium
• Another round of money for the Paycheck Protection Program
• $16 billion for vaccine development and distribution and Covid-19 testing and tracing
• Extension of unemployment programs that allowed gig workers to file for unemployment insurance
• Extension of the program that allows unemployed Americans to get 39 weeks instead of 26

But probably won't include stimulus checks. I guess this is why Mnuchin clawed back the $450B.

Stimulus checks. The reason? You've seen so many Republicans want to get to "yes" on this legislation because the price tag is less than $1 trillion and much of that money is offset by reusing money that didn't get used in the last stimulus bill. There are many details that have to be worked out to ultimately get Republicans to vote for the proposal, but keeping the price tag below $1 trillion has been essential.

Right now, it doesn't look possible to include $1,200 stimulus checks for most Americans once members account for the costs of proposals like the Paycheck Protection Program, state and local funding and the unemployment benefits.

[RainMaker]

No stimulus checks AND liability protection for companies. Brutal.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

No stimulus checks AND liability protection for companies. Brutal.

I don't mind liability protection for companies that followed the law.

But I agree the lack of stimulus checks is disappointing.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I don't mind liability protection for companies that followed the law.

But I agree the lack of stimulus checks is disappointing.

It encourages companies to not provide protections for their employees. The opposite of what you'd want during a pandemic.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

No stimulus checks AND liability protection for companies. Brutal.

Yup. No state or local money either. Dems get taken to the cleaners again. It's almost as if that's how this was meant to go all along.
(EDIT: Looks like there is some state and local money but considering the dollars we're talking about for PPP, unemployment, etc - it seems like it's not going to be much)

It's as if we have two extremely corporate-backed parties, but one of them is all in on white nationalism so they're for the "working man"... somehow.

SI

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Country may get a Christmas present soon.

The proposal includes:
Another round of money for the Paycheck Protection Program.

Can't wait to read about all the corrupt individuals cashing out millions of dollars this time around as well.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Yup. No state or local money either. Dems get taken to the cleaners again. It's almost as if that's how this was meant to go all along.
(EDIT: Looks like there is some state and local money but considering the dollars we're talking about for PPP, unemployment, etc - it seems like it's not going to be much)

It's as if we have two extremely corporate-backed parties, but one of them is all in on white nationalism so they're for the "working man"... somehow.

SI

The Dems are so bad at this.

They are the party fighting to fund the police. The GOP is the party fighting to defund the police.

And when people say the Dems want to defund the police, they look sheepish and say "Well, I guess you got us there."

[JPhillips]

This is yet another good example of why nobody knows what Dems stand for. All of the things that were must-haves two months ago aren't important anymore.

[BYU 14]

One thing they better stand for is making sure the PPP funds are not abused this time.

[Thomkal]

Trump's Elite Strike Team lost 6 times today-MN, MI, WI, NV, AZ and GA. They are 1-46 in court cases.

[BYU 14]

The Kraken as a worse batting average than Mario Mendoza, who knew?

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Trump's Elite Strike Team lost 6 times today-MN, MI, WI, NV, AZ and GA. They are 1-46 in court cases.

Well there is that ill-defined swamp and all that is preventing justice

[Vegas Vic]

As Donald Trump's reign thankfully comes to an end, and hopefully he fades into obscurity, I can't help but reflect on the pinnacle of his career, when he close-lined Vince McMahon on Monday Night Raw.

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

The Kraken as a worse batting average than Mario Mendoza, who knew?

Still better than Chris Davis

[ISiddiqui]

And now Rudy tests positive for Covid

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

And now Rudy tests positive for Covid

It's about time with all the people in his orbit who had it, Wonder if the "elite strike team" get it now too

[Atocep]

Another part of the deep state plot to steal the election. They had to knock Rudy out just as his lawsuits were gaining traction.

[thesloppy]

Rudy's been displaying symptoms for like 6 solid months now. I'm honestly surprised he hadn't had it yet.

[ISiddiqui]

Test Borat!

[Ghost Econ]

Fuck, I hope Kraken's can't get COVID.

[Ben E Lou]

Rudy hospitalized.

[NobodyHere]

Good thing for Rudy that Covid is fake news.

[CrimsonFox]

[RainMaker]

Whistleblower in Florida who called out the state for suppressing data.

1/
There will be no update today.

At 8:30 am this morning, state police came into my house and took all my hardware and tech.

They were serving a warrant on my computer after DOH filed a complaint.

They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids.. pic.twitter.com/DE2QfOmtPU

— Rebekah Jones (@GeoRebekah) December 7, 2020

[sterlingice]

That's definitely not scary at all

SI

[miami_fan]

Law and order at its finest. I guess I should be thankful that no one was shot.

[GrantDawg]

I saw that about Rebecca Jones. Really upsetting stuff. She should file a civil rights suit. I think she will have a case.

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[Qwikshot]

This is why when my mom was claiming Florida was safe, I was pretty sure it was because it's run by Republicans, not that it's actually safe.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I saw that about Rebecca Jones. Really upsetting stuff. She should file a civil rights suit. I think she will have a case.

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Agree and as a Father I would have gone ballistic over them pointing a gun at my kids, no excuse for that.

[GrantDawg]

I guarantee that if Florida had gone to Biden, DeSantis would have not certified and tried to name Trump electors.

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[JPhillips]

Turns out Trump's Valdosta rally was held in an area that one of my wife's cousins owns.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I guarantee that if Florida had gone to Biden, DeSantis would have not certified and tried to name Trump electors.

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No doubt, DeSantis is a straight up fascist. Also hats off to a few more "bad apples" in the police department.

[GrantDawg]

Perfect summary:

MAGA thought process: We must punish evil China for sending this horrible virus that is just the common cold and we don't need masks but Trump was a hero for wearing one that one time and God bless him for inventing the miraculous vaccine we're not going to take.

— Patrick W. Watson (@PatrickW) December 4, 2020

[albionmoonlight]

SCOOP: In a complaint unsealed on Friday, two security officials working on President Trump’s BORDER WALL said that contractors were illegally smuggling in armed Mexican guards to protect construction sites. https://t.co/iEAxNoRazu w/ @SeamusHughes @kitty_bennett

— Zolan Kanno-Youngs (@KannoYoungs) December 8, 2020

Apparently Trump's play-dough wall has led to more armed Mexicans being smuggled into the country rather than less.