Werewolf XX - Of Demons and Elementals (Humans Win!) - Page 12

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:01 PM

Path12 in at the buzzer. I love this game. Sort of.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 07:02 PM

woot

that's what i call a close one

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:02 PM

9 people in the thread. Nice.

Passacaglia · 12-30-2005, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Now ain't that interesting.

Yeah. I didn't mean to start a bandwagon! It was just a hunch!

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:03 PM

No problem. I don't see it as a bandwagon. I wasn't comfortable voting either blade or dacman. st.cronin is someone I've been wondering about as well. I felt more comfortable with it.

path12 · 12-30-2005, 07:05 PM

So 4 Dacman, 4 St Cronin right? That would mean if WVU is right about his role that it's Dacman?

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 07:05 PM

Whatever the results of the vote, I assume the 'seer' will be scanning either myself of blade tonight.

saldana · 12-30-2005, 07:05 PM

pass, can i just ask you to clarify what you meant by St cronin being the victim of my ploy....your statement had alot of negative connotation, but then you voted the same as i did...were you being sarcastic, or are you part of the camp that thinks i have been lying all day? thanks

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:05 PM

It appears that way.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

pass, can i just ask you to clarify what you meant by St cronin being the victim of my ploy....your statement had alot of negative connotation, but then you voted the same as i did...were you being sarcastic, or are you part of the camp that thinks i have been lying all day? thanks

To be honest, saldana, I still don't believe you 100%.

Edit to add: But the part I have a tough time believing is on the stuff I think you're assuming.

saldana · 12-30-2005, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Whatever the results of the vote, I assume the 'seer' will be scanning either myself of blade tonight.

i will pay the bloody seer to scan me tonight!!! i never worked this hard to convice people when i actually WAS lying.

path12 · 12-30-2005, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

pass, can i just ask you to clarify what you meant by St cronin being the victim of my ploy....your statement had alot of negative connotation, but then you voted the same as i did...were you being sarcastic, or are you part of the camp that thinks i have been lying all day? thanks

Looks by the voting that most of us believe you.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

To be honest, saldana, I still don't believe you 100%.

Edit to add: But the part I have a tough time believing is on the stuff I think you're assuming.

I agree with this. I think saldana is being 'truthful' but has been misled by CW. Sort of like how GW Bush was 'truthful' about WMDs in Iraq.

saldana · 12-30-2005, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Looks by the voting that most of us believe you.

thanks for that....i am now just trying to figure out my new circle of trust since blade is no longer in it.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:10 PM

I'm having a tough time developing a circle of trust myself.

Passacaglia · 12-30-2005, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

pass, can i just ask you to clarify what you meant by St cronin being the victim of my ploy....your statement had alot of negative connotation, but then you voted the same as i did...were you being sarcastic, or are you part of the camp that thinks i have been lying all day? thanks

Well, I thought you were trying to trap either WVUFAN or st. cronin, and out them as a wolf. Since it wasn't WVUFAN, it's pretty likely to be st. cronin, no?

Coffee Warlord · 12-30-2005, 07:13 PM

Arguments fly, the rhino and the trout start to stink, and everyone is pretty much in a total state of confusion. Even the gods can't keep track of this mess. Finally, the decision comes....or does it? A hush falls unto the crowd as note one, but two people are agreed upon as influence by the demonic forces! Dacman and St.Cronin are led up to the executioner, and not even the hooded killer himself is sure what to do.

...but one person does. WVUFAN strides up to the executioner, and orders him with a commanding voice that only a veteran soldier has, "Soldier! Dacman is to be executed at once!" The executioner, outranked by the veteran WVUFAN, obeys, and St.cronin, quite relieved, steps back into the mass.

Dacman, however, has no intentions of going lightly. He merely looks at WVUFAN, looks at the executioner, and begins to glow with an unnatural orange light. Out of nowhere, a firey sword appears in his hand, and with a single stroke of his blade, decapitates the headsman.

Without another word, the elemental Dacman strides back into his quarters.

FINAL VOTE

0 - hoopsguy
2 - Blade
2 - TazFTW
1 - WVUFAN
4 - dacman
0 - saldana
0 - Grammaticus
1 - kingfc
4 - st cronin

Active List

1 Ardent Enthusiast
2 Blade6119
3 Schmidty, Human, Lynched Day 1
4 Dacman (Elemental)
5 Hoopsguy
6 SnDvls
7 Passacaglia
8 Path12
9 St.Cronin
10 Grammaticus
11 TazFTW
12 Saldana
13 WVUFAN
14 Kingfc22
15 Barkeep49
16 dubb93

NIGHT 2 DEADLINE...SOMETIME TOMORROW. DAY 3 DEADLINE WILL OCCUR ON the 2nd

path12 · 12-30-2005, 07:14 PM

Whaddaya know.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:15 PM

Wow. Someone pissed off an elemental...and I'm not guessing who.

Passacaglia · 12-30-2005, 07:16 PM

Uh oh...so who incurs the elemental's wrath?

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 07:17 PM

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:18 PM

Well, I said I wouldn't guess...but I'd guess WVU or st.cronin.

WVU for the initial whack or st.cronin for switching his vote off blade to dacman.

WVUFAN · 12-30-2005, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Uh oh...so who incurs the elemental's wrath?

er ... um ...
I told you he was secretive for a reason!

Um ... (hides in quarters)

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 07:21 PM

This is definitely the funnest game yet. I can't even begin to imagine what will happen tonight.

saldana · 12-30-2005, 07:24 PM

well that was unexpected to say the least. glad i got off that horse and went back to st cronin.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:48 PM

chirp. chirp.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

chirp. chirp.

went silent real fast, huh

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:56 PM

Sure did. I wonder who's got what brewing.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Sure did. I wonder who's got what brewing.

I imagine there's some strategizing going on. I'm guessing that the demons are as flummoxed and puzzled as we are.

kingfc22 · 12-30-2005, 07:59 PM

Wow, sorry about today guys was at work until 5 PM and there was no info last night for me to base a vote on that I was willing to go with. Let's hope for another good night tonight.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dacman

I can't see why you would think an elemental was targeted last night, Gram.

Pulled, for your review, from the dacman files.

Coffee Warlord · 12-30-2005, 08:05 PM

Well, I can safely say, I didn't expect the chain of events that has happened already to happen this early.

And the night should prove...amusing.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Pulled, for your review, from the dacman files.

Is that supposed to point towards grammaticus as a possible demon?

kingfc22 · 12-30-2005, 08:11 PM

FWIW, I've had Grammaticus as a top suspect in my book ever since post #282:

Quote:

You think there may not be a killing tonight? Why, wouldn't that be a foolish move for the demons?

Followed by St. Cronin's response in #283:

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I definitely think the demons will TRY to kill someone.

Followed by Grammaticus' post #284:

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I see.

Then the no kill at night happens. I just have a feeling that Grammaticus is not a human.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Is that supposed to point towards grammaticus as a possible demon?

Nah, in fact I hadn't thought of that at all. Just points out completely to me that saldana is a villager/demon. It was obvious, but even more so now.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Nah, in fact I hadn't thought of that at all. Just points out completely to me that saldana is a villager/demon. It was obvious, but even more so now.

which # post was that from dacman, cause i'm confused ... a little context would help

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

which # post was that from dacman, cause i'm confused ... a little context would help

I don't remember. When a player gets "revealed", by that I mean some sort of role, I typically go back and search their previous posts.

It shouldn't be too hard to find. IIRC Grammaticus was having a tough time believing that an elemental would be outed if was an "unsuccessful" attack.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I don't remember. When a player gets "revealed", by that I mean some sort of role, I typically go back and search their previous posts.

It shouldn't be too hard to find. IIRC Grammaticus was having a tough time believing that an elemental would be outed if was an "unsuccessful" attack.

I found out. It was a procedural argument, not really much of substance.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 09:16 PM

fwiw, saldana could easily be an elemental ... the only way to find out for sure is to lynch him.

In fact, his story might make some sense if we think about him being an elemental.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:18 PM

Not at all to me. Saldana wouldn't want to out dacman. Period. The rules also state that an attempt on an elemental would reveal the elemental.

Seems clear cut to me.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Not at all to me. Saldana wouldn't want to out dacman. Period. The rules also state that an attempt on an elemental would reveal the elemental.

Seems clear cut to me.

He wasn't going for dacman, he was going for me and WVU (at least so he says). And what I'm thinking is that his story seems fishy - but with no real motive. If we posit him as an elemental, with a secret victory condition, the cognitive dissonance goes away. In that case, he's lying, but with motives hidden from us.

It's just a theory, no real proof.

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Not at all to me. Saldana wouldn't want to out dacman. Period. The rules also state that an attempt on an elemental would reveal the elemental.

Seems clear cut to me.

Saldana is not an elemental...we would know it if he were attacked as elemental, night or lynch, and he wouldnt have made up some bogus story...we all know WVU is on the up and up. As for tonight, id ask the seer to view me so at least one bloody person trusts me. I will re-state post dacmans reveal, it will take two tries to lynch me. Im not a wolf, not a brutal wolf, and not a villager that doesnt know if hes blessed or cursed(id assume my role couldnt be blessed or cursed, too much power). You can all try to kill me if you would like, but it will only cost the villagers wasted time and a night kill. I do not count as a demon, and not a demon, not a brutal demon(forgot this was demon and not wolf, so replace above)...Anyone who has played more then 1-2 games with me remembers i push HARD. Go look at the spawn game with my accusations of vince and what not. You can distrust me, but im not outside of my playing style. Alright, who wants to throw the first stone at me?

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:29 PM

dola, id expect dacman or WVU to go tonight...but thats me

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Saldana is not an elemental...we would know it if he were attacked as elemental, night or lynch, and he wouldnt have made up some bogus story...we all know WVU is on the up and up. As for tonight, id ask the seer to view me so at least one bloody person trusts me. I will re-state post dacmans reveal, it will take two tries to lynch me. Im not a wolf, not a brutal wolf, and not a villager that doesnt know if hes blessed or cursed(id assume my role couldnt be blessed or cursed, too much power). You can all try to kill me if you would like, but it will only cost the villagers wasted time and a night kill. I do not count as a demon, and not a demon, not a brutal demon(forgot this was demon and not wolf, so replace above)...Anyone who has played more then 1-2 games with me remembers i push HARD. Go look at the spawn game with my accusations of vince and what not. You can distrust me, but im not outside of my playing style. Alright, who wants to throw the first stone at me?

It will take two tries to lynch you?

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

It will take two tries to lynch you?

YES, i will not die the first time you try to lynch me. And after the first time my role will be known to all and you wouldnt try to lynch me again id bet as id be a regular villager...wolves would, but the villagers would have to be stupid to

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

He wasn't going for dacman, he was going for me and WVU (at least so he says). And what I'm thinking is that his story seems fishy - but with no real motive. If we posit him as an elemental, with a secret victory condition, the cognitive dissonance goes away. In that case, he's lying, but with motives hidden from us.

It's just a theory, no real proof.

Oops. My mistake. St.cronin and WVU. You're right. Got my timeline mixed up.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:32 PM

Woah, blade. You been drinking?

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Woah, blade. You been drinking?

I had two glasses of iced tea with pink sweetner at dinner if thats what your asking OC

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 09:38 PM

That's an odd play, Blade ... I don't see you living very long putting that out there.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:39 PM

Sugar high then.

12-30-2005, 07:01 PM	#551
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Path12 in at the buzzer. I love this game. Sort of. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:02 PM	#552
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	woot that's what i call a close one __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 07:02 PM	#553
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	9 people in the thread. Nice. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:03 PM	#555
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	No problem. I don't see it as a bandwagon. I wasn't comfortable voting either blade or dacman. st.cronin is someone I've been wondering about as well. I felt more comfortable with it. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:05 PM	#556
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	So 4 Dacman, 4 St Cronin right? That would mean if WVU is right about his role that it's Dacman? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

12-30-2005, 07:05 PM	#557
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Whatever the results of the vote, I assume the 'seer' will be scanning either myself of blade tonight. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 07:05 PM	#558
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	pass, can i just ask you to clarify what you meant by St cronin being the victim of my ploy....your statement had alot of negative connotation, but then you voted the same as i did...were you being sarcastic, or are you part of the camp that thinks i have been lying all day? thanks

12-30-2005, 07:05 PM	#559
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	It appears that way. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:10 PM	#565
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm having a tough time developing a circle of trust myself. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:13 PM	#567
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Arguments fly, the rhino and the trout start to stink, and everyone is pretty much in a total state of confusion. Even the gods can't keep track of this mess. Finally, the decision comes....or does it? A hush falls unto the crowd as note one, but two people are agreed upon as influence by the demonic forces! Dacman and St.Cronin are led up to the executioner, and not even the hooded killer himself is sure what to do. ...but one person does. WVUFAN strides up to the executioner, and orders him with a commanding voice that only a veteran soldier has, "Soldier! Dacman is to be executed at once!" The executioner, outranked by the veteran WVUFAN, obeys, and St.cronin, quite relieved, steps back into the mass. Dacman, however, has no intentions of going lightly. He merely looks at WVUFAN, looks at the executioner, and begins to glow with an unnatural orange light. Out of nowhere, a firey sword appears in his hand, and with a single stroke of his blade, decapitates the headsman. Without another word, the elemental Dacman strides back into his quarters. FINAL VOTE 0 - hoopsguy 2 - Blade 2 - TazFTW 1 - WVUFAN 4 - dacman 0 - saldana 0 - Grammaticus 1 - kingfc 4 - st cronin Active List 1 Ardent Enthusiast 2 Blade6119 3 Schmidty, Human, Lynched Day 1 4 Dacman (Elemental) 5 Hoopsguy 6 SnDvls 7 Passacaglia 8 Path12 9 St.Cronin 10 Grammaticus 11 TazFTW 12 Saldana 13 WVUFAN 14 Kingfc22 15 Barkeep49 16 dubb93 NIGHT 2 DEADLINE...SOMETIME TOMORROW. DAY 3 DEADLINE WILL OCCUR ON the 2nd Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 12-30-2005 at 07:13 PM.

12-30-2005, 07:14 PM	#568
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Whaddaya know. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

12-30-2005, 07:15 PM	#569
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Wow. Someone pissed off an elemental...and I'm not guessing who. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:16 PM	#570
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Uh oh...so who incurs the elemental's wrath?

12-30-2005, 07:17 PM	#571
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	lol __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 07:18 PM	#572
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Well, I said I wouldn't guess...but I'd guess WVU or st.cronin. WVU for the initial whack or st.cronin for switching his vote off blade to dacman. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:21 PM	#574
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	This is definitely the funnest game yet. I can't even begin to imagine what will happen tonight. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 07:24 PM	#575
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	well that was unexpected to say the least. glad i got off that horse and went back to st cronin.

12-30-2005, 07:48 PM	#576
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	chirp. chirp. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:56 PM	#578
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Sure did. I wonder who's got what brewing. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 07:59 PM	#580
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Wow, sorry about today guys was at work until 5 PM and there was no info last night for me to base a vote on that I was willing to go with. Let's hope for another good night tonight. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

12-30-2005, 08:05 PM	#582
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Well, I can safely say, I didn't expect the chain of events that has happened already to happen this early. And the night should prove...amusing.

12-30-2005, 09:16 PM	#589
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	fwiw, saldana could easily be an elemental ... the only way to find out for sure is to lynch him. In fact, his story might make some sense if we think about him being an elemental. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 09:18 PM	#590
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Not at all to me. Saldana wouldn't want to out dacman. Period. The rules also state that an attempt on an elemental would reveal the elemental. Seems clear cut to me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 09:29 PM	#593
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	dola, id expect dacman or WVU to go tonight...but thats me __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-30-2005, 09:32 PM	#597
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Woah, blade. You been drinking? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 09:38 PM	#599
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	That's an odd play, Blade ... I don't see you living very long putting that out there. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 09:39 PM	#600
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Sugar high then. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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