NCAA Tourney Poll: Which will happen first?

DeToxRox · 03-20-2006, 11:33 PM

Will we see all four #1 seeds make the Final Four or a #16 seed beat a #1 seed first?

I think it'll be a 16 beating a 1 with the gap between these teams closing, and thus the #1s all winning will become increasingly harder.

Your thoughts?

ISiddiqui · 03-20-2006, 11:41 PM

16 beating a 1.

cartman · 03-20-2006, 11:50 PM

Simple math solves this one. A 16 beating a 1 is a single game instance, but for all 4 #1s to make the Final Four requires a total of 16 games all falling into the win column for the #1 seeds.

Groundhog · 03-21-2006, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Simple math solves this one. A 16 beating a 1 is a single game instance, but for all 4 #1s to make the Final Four requires a total of 16 games all falling into the win column for the #1 seeds.

Hmm... I voted for a #16 seed upset, but I don't think it's quite as clear cut as simple math would suggest.

#1 seeds are always very good, if not excellent, ball teams, while #16 are usually god-awful. Most of these games aren't close and even with the gap seemingly lessening between top tier and mid tier programs (though I think we need to observe at least another 2-3 season before we can make this call), the #16 are generally not even mid tier programs.

Still, all these guys are basketball players and any team in the country is capable of getting hot and draining 10 three pointers in a row or something. I think some #16 will catch on fire and hit everything while the #1 seed struggles. When this happens, I don't know.

sooner333 · 03-21-2006, 01:04 AM

Well, usually the bottom 5 teams are really bad, sometimes teams that didn't even have a winning record. This year I thought the committee made a mistake by making ORU a 16 seed (they actually ran with Memphis pretty well), but most 16's have not been that good.

I woudln't even be surprised if all #1's made the final four this year. We are halfway there and only two of the two seeds remain. However, it could be 50 years until either of these happen.

Butter · 03-21-2006, 07:41 AM

Albany had a 12 point lead with 11 minutes to go Friday night. If that's not going to do it, I don't know what freakin' will. If they had been able to keep up that hot play for just a few more minutes, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

So, I think it's a 16 over a 1, just because there have been so many close calls... eventually, one of these teams just won't cool off and fade down the stretch.

cartman · 03-21-2006, 12:27 PM

Plus there are four chances each tourney for a #16 to knock off a #1, but only one chance for all four #1s to make it to the Final Four.

st.cronin · 03-21-2006, 12:28 PM

The trend in college basketball is towards greater and greater parity. So, the distance between the 16 seeds and the 1 seed is closing - making that upset MORE likely, while also making the chance of all 4 1s advancing LESS likely.

st.cronin · 03-21-2006, 01:32 PM

By the way, both of these will happen before there is an FOFC multi-player Maximum Football League.

View Poll Results: Which will happen first?
All four #1's make the Final Four	15	39.47%
#16 upsets #1	23	60.53%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

03-20-2006, 11:41 PM	#2
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	16 beating a 1. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-20-2006, 11:50 PM	#3
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Simple math solves this one. A 16 beating a 1 is a single game instance, but for all 4 #1s to make the Final Four requires a total of 16 games all falling into the win column for the #1 seeds. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-21-2006, 07:41 AM	#6
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Albany had a 12 point lead with 11 minutes to go Friday night. If that's not going to do it, I don't know what freakin' will. If they had been able to keep up that hot play for just a few more minutes, we wouldn't be having this discussion. So, I think it's a 16 over a 1, just because there have been so many close calls... eventually, one of these teams just won't cool off and fade down the stretch. __________________ My listening habits

03-21-2006, 12:27 PM	#7
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Plus there are four chances each tourney for a #16 to knock off a #1, but only one chance for all four #1s to make it to the Final Four. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-21-2006, 01:04 AM	#5
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	Well, usually the bottom 5 teams are really bad, sometimes teams that didn't even have a winning record. This year I thought the committee made a mistake by making ORU a 16 seed (they actually ran with Memphis pretty well), but most 16's have not been that good. I woudln't even be surprised if all #1's made the final four this year. We are halfway there and only two of the two seeds remain. However, it could be 50 years until either of these happen.

03-21-2006, 12:28 PM	#8
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	The trend in college basketball is towards greater and greater parity. So, the distance between the 16 seeds and the 1 seed is closing - making that upset MORE likely, while also making the chance of all 4 1s advancing LESS likely. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-21-2006, 01:32 PM	#9
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	By the way, both of these will happen before there is an FOFC multi-player Maximum Football League. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

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