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Location: Massachusetts
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didn't look to see before i posted this: Brian Leetch to the Bruins...1 year, 4 million
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08-03-2005, 07:14 PM
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I think that was like 8 pages ago. 
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08-03-2005, 07:15 PM
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oh yeah, and fuck Brian Leetch
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08-03-2005, 07:15 PM
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Location: Massachusetts
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uh oh...what'd Leetch do to you DD?
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08-03-2005, 07:24 PM
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08-03-2005, 07:24 PM
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oh, and fuck Daddy Torgo
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08-03-2005, 07:37 PM
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Location: Back in Houston!
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08-03-2005, 07:47 PM
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Location: Massachusetts
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unless you're a girl that's not really my cup of tea. I'm desperate, but not THAT desperate. |
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08-03-2005, 08:31 PM
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Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA
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At least you wont have JR ending your season...again.  Man I love joking with Maple Leaf fans! GO FLYERS!! |
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08-03-2005, 08:47 PM
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gotta love JR
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08-03-2005, 08:49 PM
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Location: Keene, NH
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...because 29 seasons is WAY better than 37 seasons. signed, 4 seasons
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08-03-2005, 08:54 PM
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Dallas News reporting that Modano has resigned after all.
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08-03-2005, 08:57 PM
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so is that Eklund douchebag
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08-03-2005, 09:03 PM
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and TSN
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08-03-2005, 09:04 PM
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It's getting old...
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08-03-2005, 09:05 PM
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08-03-2005, 09:17 PM
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so, Modano's contract brings up some questions...
he gets 4.25 for the first 3 years and 2.25 for the last 2. Do any of the other sports allow a contract with built-in pay cuts like this? I mean, it makes sense to me to frontload a contract as much as possible so as to not to get into trouble down the road, but I can't see this happening to much. are contracts guaranteed?
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08-03-2005, 09:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Avs signed Patrice Brisebois and Pierre Turgeon.
(Pretty sure this hasn't been mentioned yet.) http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=132350 |
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08-03-2005, 09:30 PM
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I don't know what happens cap-wise if he retires during the deal.
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08-03-2005, 09:32 PM
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oh, it just keeps getting better and better!
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08-03-2005, 09:34 PM
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I thought the buyout is ONLY for this season
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08-03-2005, 09:34 PM
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I believe their are buyouts in future season, but there are cap consequences which were waived for this season only.
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08-03-2005, 09:39 PM
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(from TSN)
Will Clubs have an opportunity to make off-season adjustments to their rosters to come into compliance with the new CBA rules? Yes. Clubs will have a one-time opportunity, during a six-day period, to exercise buy-outs of existing player contracts
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08-03-2005, 09:41 PM
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sportsnet is saying that Zhamnov is close to joining the Bs
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08-03-2005, 09:47 PM
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08-03-2005, 09:51 PM
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ok, so quite the banner day here.
lose Forsberg to Philly and replace him with Patrice "Pylon" Brisebois and Pierre Turgeon. All you Red Wing fans must be just beside yourselves with joy. Any other retreads available? I'm not a big Brisebois fan (obviously), but they did need another blueliner to move the puck a bit (Foote is as underrated for his offensive skills as he is overrated for his defense). Not too stoked about paying him 3 M next year, but maybe Lacroix can find a sucker by then. I love Turgeon. Always been a fan, mostly because he was so good in Sega. I don't have huge hopes that he's going to rebound much at this point, but hopefully he was cheap. I would have liked him WAY more as a 3rd line center behind Sakic and Forsberg. Sigh.
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08-03-2005, 09:52 PM
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bring on Cujo. (seriously)
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08-03-2005, 09:54 PM
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You'll still be able to buy out contracts, DD. Just that after that 6 day grace it will count against the cap in some fashion. I don't think the 2/3rds will apply as well, you'd have to negotiate with the player, or pay him off 100% and release him.
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08-03-2005, 10:01 PM
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not saying you guys are wrong, but I sure don't see that mentioned anywhere
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08-03-2005, 10:03 PM
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one more thing on Turgeon - he played pretty well for Quenneville in St Louis...maybe a reunion will be good for him.
/who am I kidding?
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08-03-2005, 10:06 PM
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The NHL's CBA FAQ calls this year's buy-out period a "one-time opportunity." |
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08-03-2005, 10:08 PM
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that's what I'm sayin'
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08-03-2005, 10:21 PM
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08-03-2005, 10:22 PM
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Yeah, swaping Turgeon and Brisebois for Foote and Forsberg is a great deal... bizzarro world!!
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08-03-2005, 10:23 PM
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I am glad to see that the dancing banana has multiplied. Modano's wishy-washy ways were worth it just for that.
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08-03-2005, 10:25 PM
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I'm sure that is for the 2/3 value and non-cap implications though. I seriously doubt the NHL or the NHLPA would want to dissolve contract buyouts. Anyway, I emailed the NHL about it. I'll let you know when I get an answer. |
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08-03-2005, 10:26 PM
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I'm almost certain that buy-outs are allowed at 2/3rds. This was the case under the old CBA. The "one-time" provision was for buyouts that didn't count against the cap -- future buyouts count against the cap in full.
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08-03-2005, 10:29 PM
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Dola.
Not the best source, but a quick google turns up: http://proicehockey.about.com/od/the...y_cap_expl.htm Quote:
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08-03-2005, 10:36 PM
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See. ML knows so much about hockey...except for that cheering for the Leafs thing
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08-03-2005, 10:48 PM
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Yes. This was my understanding as well.
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08-03-2005, 11:33 PM
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Eklund is saying that Zhamnov to Boston is done and Niedermeyer to Anaheim.
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08-03-2005, 11:44 PM
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Calgarians and Edmontonians are going ape shit with all the signings. Some media commentators in both cities have gone crazy and separately declared yesterday/today as "the greatest day in the history of the franchise" as a result of landing Pronger and signing Iginla. Tickets are off-the-hook. 28 Flames games are already sold out. Edmonton has had a similar boost.
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08-03-2005, 11:53 PM
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08-04-2005, 12:10 AM
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08-04-2005, 12:14 AM
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Back in 2001 it did... There is no excitement in DC, but that's not surprising. No one hear cares about hockey and the Caps haven't done a damn thing. In Detroit things are a bit mixed. I check out some Wings boards (far too many people there annoy me to bother posting) and I'm on a Wings e-mail list that's been around for years. Most people are just anxious because the Wings haven't made a splash. They wont. And the fans are just now coming to grips with it. After rumors of the Wings in the hunt for guys like Palfy, Khabibuhlin, the Thronton rumor, and all of that, I think the reality of the cap and how little the Wings have left to spend is settling in. The Wings simply don't have the cap space to do much of anything major if they plan on re-signing Datsyuk and Zetterberg. It will be second and third teir guys. That's all they can afford really. I think the AVs are in a similar boat with Hejduk and Tanguay. There are some realists out there who see it for what it is. The cap is good for the sport, but, like all caps, it does hurt the "top" franchises (eg, those teams which had the $$$ to invest in almost any players they wanted) and helps the lower tier franchises. It's all about parity and in the long-run it will be good for the sport. Also, this isn't so much about "big" versus "small" as it is about which teams signed long term deals beyond the 03-04 season and which teams didn't. It was known for a while that the NHL salary structre would be an X factor after the CBA expired. Some teams took that advice to heart and made sure they had as few contracts beyond '04 as possible. Others (eg, Wings and Leafs) didn't. The Wings didn't have to sign Draper to such an extension. They didn't need to sign Lidstrom to his long term deal. They didn't have to trade for Lang and his big, fat long-term contract. But they did. And they did so knowingly. So when the free agency doors were flung open they were caught behind the 8-ball. For example, even after all of Edmonton's moves, the Wings still have a higher payroll. I am sure when the dust all settles Detroit will still have one of the higher payrolls in the league. Instead of it being almost three times bigger than the smallest, it will be around 1.5 times or so. But for most if you add the cap and the new schedule (the Wings see Columbus and Nashville 8 times, but not Toronto, Montreal, or Boston) and Wings fans are screaming bloody murder. They are cursing Bettman and the "new" NHL for just being there to cater to "new" fans, without caring one little bit about the franchises that have carried the league for the last 10 years or so. While there are nuggets of truth in there to be sure, there are so many things wrong with that assessment that it's not worth going into. How are Edmonton and Calgary fans "new" fans, for example? Same with Philly. Those aren't new fans and a new fangled team. I think if the Wings were actually signing players and not losing them, people would be going nuts. As it is, there is a lot of bitching and moaning about the "new" NHL and all. Personally, I'm loving it. It's a fascinating dispersal of talent. It's been fun to watch the deals and signings. It will be really interesting to see where this goes in the future... In two to three years time, I can see a lot of fans bitching and moaning about how their squad has a 38/39 year old defensemen who is eating up $4.5 million a year.
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08-04-2005, 12:39 AM
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Seen on several sites that Niedermeyer has made his decision and it will be announced tomorrow (Thursday). Most of those sites have him going to Anaheim.
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08-04-2005, 12:40 AM
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! first forsberg, now losing nieds....not good for the devs. maybe we can keep rafalski then, and just save up for someone next year. lou knows what hes doing, i guess, but damn, this one really hurts. more than holik and mogilny combined. by a mile. |
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08-04-2005, 06:48 AM
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How did the NFL and NBA make the jump from no cap to a cap. I really don't remember those situations, so I'm wondering what happened then...
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
Join Date: Nov 2000
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There is as much frenzy over free agency as there was outrage over the lockout and cancellation of the season. On a personal level, I'm getting excited about watching hockey again, but not to the level of you guys. Since I'm a relative newcomer to the game, I really don't know the intricacies of the game, especially as it relates to where players fit on what teams. It enough for me to enjoy the game that I know the rules and can follow the game with some knowledge of what is happening. But I couldn't tell a left winger from a right winger from a center, or differentiate between offensive and defensive defensemen (in terms of who, in real life, plays those positions or has those qualities), to save my life. I bet I'm the prototypical hockey fan in the south. No amount of game-watching and studying could ever get me to the level you guys are on (which is the exact opposite of how I feel about baseball; since I grew up with it, I just know it.). I'll continue to enjoy the game on a superficial level, and the NHL can feel good that I'm paying for the center ice package. It's like a marriage of convenience - I need my weekly winter sports fix (football just doesn't sustain me during the week, sorry), and hockey is the much better alternative to basketball.
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08-04-2005, 07:33 AM
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Understatement of the year. Shoot, curling is much better alternative than basketball. But, I digress... |
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