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Qwikshot · 07-26-2005, 05:39 PM

Coffee Warlord

The more I think about it, the more I'm not buying it. The room was slimy. It was a gathering place. While it didn't tell me if it was black, I'm kind of leaning towards black goo. He was a boss.

If CW was a good guy, my bad, but I'm very doubtful.

Neon isn't off my list either though but for now CW gets my vote.

Mr. Wednesday · 07-26-2005, 05:40 PM

Unvote Neon_Chaos

Vince · 07-26-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Vote Vince

Raider's and Vince seem to be pushing too hard to kill off CW and/or Neon and both voted for Peregrine. I'm going to believe digamma for now and that makes me not want to vote for CW.

Out of context: Sweet, the first time anyone has voted to get me 'hung' in any of these games

I'm not really pushing to kill him -- I'm pushing to get as much information out there as humanly possible. I'm not entirely convinced that he's 'guilty.' I have yet to cast a vote today, and I think I'm going to end up waiting just about as long as possible to do so. With the numbers the way they are, our votes seem to be much more important...if we vote to kill an innocent person, that's two people we're down for the day, assuming they kill someone tonight. If that happens, we're down to a dangerously thin margin. CW claims he found a weapon, and was protecting Qwikshot...can we hope that someone with protection abilities guesses correctly tonight? We can hope, but we can't count on it. Also, Qwik has a very powerful role to help us out, and is proven to be a good guy...he's a prime target for alien attack/conversion. So we have to make sure we make the most educated guess possible.

Coffee Warlord · 07-26-2005, 05:42 PM

Sigh. Whelp, I don't know what else to tell ya'll. I've given every shred of information I have on the matter, and if that ain't good enough, so be it.

In my mind, with the information I have, it's an open and shut case against Neon, so I went for it. If I fucked it up, I'll die tomorrow. (Hell, I might die today). However, I'm certain enough that I'm right that I put my own life on the line.

Vince · 07-26-2005, 05:44 PM

By the way...how much are the aliens loving it if BOTH Neon and CW are good guys? Sigh. It would be a great time for someone with seer-type powers to stand up and say that one of them is clear or not. Though that would probably just confuse us all more.

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 05:45 PM

I'm not "pushing" for him as well. But if I think that at least one of the two, Neon_Chaos and Coffee Warlord is an alien, and Qwik is voting for Coffee, then that confirms the way I go. I am positive that Qwik was not converted last night, since there were once five ectos and now there are four (Blade bit it)...he's about the only one I trust at this point, and I can only assume that everyone else is mucking up the picture.

Vince · 07-26-2005, 05:45 PM

Dola -- my first post up there was being composed while Qwik was replying -- I didn't know he had voted for CW yet.

Mr. Wednesday · 07-26-2005, 05:47 PM

This seems to have turned into a CW vs. Neon showdown, with CW claiming that Blade is not a Cryssalid (thus requiring that Neon is one), Qwik being quite certain that Blade as a baddie the whole way through (but not sure if he was a Cryssalid or not... X-COM vets seem to have indicated that he was).

CW, you claim that the aliens know your role; you've been descriptive enough of what you claim to have seen, do you feel comfortable giving us any more information about what that role is or what your abilities are?

Neon_Chaos · 07-26-2005, 05:49 PM

I just want to point out something that came to my attention just now, as I was rereading... that CW says he can scan people (saying he scanned Blade, Peregrine)... and he can guard people (says he guarded Qwikshot last night)? AND that he received some info that the aliens knew who he is through some voices whispered though him (perhaps telepathy?) What? I think he had a major slip up on that one... what kind of role does he have? Superman?

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm doing the right thing by fighting this.

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 05:49 PM

Also, if the aliens know your role, then when did they learn it?

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I just want to point out something that came to my attention just now, as I was rereading... that CW says he can scan people (saying he scanned Blade, Peregrine)... and he can guard people (says he guarded Qwikshot last night)? AND that he received some info that the aliens knew who he is through some voices whispered though him (perhaps telepathy?) What? I think he had a major slip up on that one... what kind of role does he have? Superman?

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm doing the right thing by fighting this.

Good points, but I'm still not sold on your innocence. Why bring this up now, instead of earlier?

Fouts · 07-26-2005, 05:50 PM

I believe it when CW says he is a Veteran of the war. Qwik just doesn't have any solid information.

I vote for Neon_Chaos

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 05:50 PM

And why wouldn't you fight it???

Neon_Chaos · 07-26-2005, 05:53 PM

I wanted to see if anyone is out there to disprove CW's theory. Apparently noone's been watching over CW anyway. So I guess it's just a matter of he said, I said. Not that openly thumping my chest and proclaiming my innocence would do me any good... it didn't do anyone good the last Werewolf games.

Coffee Warlord · 07-26-2005, 05:55 PM

Only major reason I've been cagey about my exact role is, quite simply, I don't want a repeat of last night's insanity.

Thus, I've been trying to describe my role more "in character" than just flat out "I'm a so and so."

That said, the information I have gathered is entirely incidental. It's stuff that's happened to me during the course of the night, or stuff I've heard/seen during the night. I have no particular ability to scan aliens, mind probe people, etc, etc, etc. This is all stuff that has happened to me while I've been trying to guard people.

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Only major reason I've been cagey about my exact role is, quite simply, I don't want a repeat of last night's insanity.

Thus, I've been trying to describe my role more "in character" than just flat out "I'm a so and so."

That said, the information I have gathered is entirely incidental. It's stuff that's happened to me during the course of the night, or stuff I've heard/seen during the night. I have no particular ability to scan aliens, mind probe people, etc, etc, etc. This is all stuff that has happened to me while I've been trying to guard people.

I'm sorry, but this seems like BS to me. I haven't had the "special ability" to guard people or whatever, but why would you get this extra information when there are real seers out there who can get this as well? Wouldn't you be more than a guard at that point? What's the point of making a seer role when it's less than what you are?

Vince · 07-26-2005, 05:57 PM

Here's my decision on the day. I vote Neon_Chaos.

Something that we haven't discussed at all -- what about Blade's last words? "Computer.. do your worst. I'm not afriad to die.. you all are afraid to Live! Live like we were going to!"

This sentence is about all the clue we get as to what Blade was (from the mod). His use of the word we seems to be the clutch part of it to me. If he is talking to us X-Com people, and using the inclusive we, that implies to me that he was at some point an X-Com guy. And personally, I think his actions on day one illustrate that as well. Now, he sounds as if he was happy about the way things had gone -- sounds an awful lot like a converted person would, in my opinion.

Imagine, for a second (independent of Qwik's analysis, I'll get to that later) -- that Blade was indeed converted. That means that the Chryssalid is still out there, and that it probably can and will convert another of us -- which is like a double whammy, not only do we lose a good guy, but they gain a bad guy.

Now, as I showed in the instances that I have described above, I'm fairly certain that Neon_Chaos is a bad guy whether or not CW is telling the truth -- knowing that CW would die instantly tomorrow if Neon was innocent seems to make that strategy of isolating one person a pretty bad idea. This, combined with the chance, however small, that CW is a good guy, lead me to vote for Neon_Chaos.

The only part that doesn't fit in is Qwik's analysis of Blade's room. I would also tend to believe that would indicate that Blade was an original baddie...but again, if that's the case, then I think that Neon_Chaos is a bad guy as well, because CW has no reason to lie unless he's a bad guy, and if he is lying, the only scenario that makes Neon_Chaos a good guy seems to be a very poor tactical move by the aliens.

So to make a long story short, I think Neon's a bad guy either way, and I'm not 100% sold on CW yet, so I'm sticking with Neon.

Mr. Wednesday · 07-26-2005, 06:00 PM

For better or for worse. Sorry, Neon. Unless it rains, I won't be back in time to change my mind again.

Vote Neon_Chaos

Vince · 07-26-2005, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'm sorry, but this seems like BS to me. I haven't had the "special ability" to guard people or whatever, but why would you get this extra information when there are real seers out there who can get this as well? Wouldn't you be more than a guard at that point? What's the point of making a seer role when it's less than what you are?

Do we know that there are seer roles out there? I don't think we do...

Vince · 07-26-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Do we know that there are seer roles out there? I don't think we do...

Well, at least on our side. Seems that the aliens (according to CW, and from what I know of the X-Com world there are plenty of telepathic aliens) have "seers."

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Do we know that there are seer roles out there? I don't think we do...

I was trying to keep this quiet, but at this point, I think we're making a mistake with Neon.

Last night I was able to cobble together a hand scanner that is a one use device and I used it on Peregrine. While I scanned him I saw that Coffee is an Ecto who killed him. I know this outs me as a prime candidate for a conversion or kill, but I have to go with my gut at this point and since our numbers are so low.

JeeberD · 07-26-2005, 06:10 PM

Fuck. The water just got even murkier...

Qwikshot · 07-26-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Coffee Warlord

The more I think about it, the more I'm not buying it. The room was slimy. It was a gathering place. While it didn't tell me if it was black, I'm kind of leaning towards black goo. He was a boss.

If CW was a good guy, my bad, but I'm very doubtful.

Neon isn't off my list either though but for now CW gets my vote.

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Vote Coffee Warlord

Sorries

Swaggs · 07-26-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Swaggs - you have anything new to add to the conversation other than the vote? Haven't heard much from you at all today.

I'm sticking with my Neon Chaos vote. The fact that he voted for himself and then switched felt very contrived to me. And, I feel like Blade's final words sounded more "zombie than master" to me. Since Neon was on Qwik's list, and Qwik is the only other person I trust right now, I'm going with him.

I am waiting to see something from digamma and JeeberD. They have both been under the radar and I would not be surprised if one or both of them are aliens.

Qwikshot · 07-26-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm sticking with my Neon Chaos vote. The fact that he voted for himself and then switched felt very contrived to me. And, I feel like Blade's final words sounded more "zombie than master" to me. Since Neon was on Qwik's list, and Qwik is the only other person I trust right now, I'm going with him.

I am waiting to see something from digamma and JeeberD. They have both been under the radar and I would not be surprised if one or both of them are aliens.

if you are sticking with me then CW is your alien target.

Vince · 07-26-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I was trying to keep this quiet, but at this point, I think we're making a mistake with Neon.

Last night I was able to cobble together a hand scanner that is a one use device and I used it on Peregrine. While I scanned him I saw that Coffee is an Ecto who killed him. I know this outs me as a prime candidate for a conversion or kill, but I have to go with my gut at this point and since our numbers are so low.

Wow.

JeeberD · 07-26-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Last night I was able to cobble together a hand scanner that is a one use device and I used it on Peregrine. While I scanned him I saw that Coffee is an Ecto who killed him. I know this outs me as a prime candidate for a conversion or kill, but I have to go with my gut at this point and since our numbers are so low.

Combine this info with Qwik's condemnation of CW and I gotta change my vote.

Unvote Neon Chaos

Vote Coffee Warlord

Coffee Warlord · 07-26-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I was trying to keep this quiet, but at this point, I think we're making a mistake with Neon.

Last night I was able to cobble together a hand scanner that is a one use device and I used it on Peregrine. While I scanned him I saw that Coffee is an Ecto who killed him. I know this outs me as a prime candidate for a conversion or kill, but I have to go with my gut at this point and since our numbers are so low.

And with this I present Exhibit B.

If I Am Telling The Truth, Am Correct About Neon, and RA is Lying: This is an attempt to save the life of an alien, and get a human lynched. Close vote, worth a shot.

If I Am Telling The Truth, Am WRONG About Neon, and RA is Lying: I'm as good as dead tomorrow. He could just as easily let Neon die tonight, and get me killed tomorrow.

If I Am Lying, and Neon is Human: Why in the holy hell would I get myself killed to off 1 whole person.

If I Am Lying, and Neon is an Alien: Okay, I'll admit this is one brutal tactic. Frankly, I'm not going to waste my time trying to defend this, because I honestly cannot without a lot of smoke and mirrors.

But, that's what I've got there.

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 06:22 PM

Not much of a defense to me...bye bye.

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 06:23 PM

If I am lying, then how did I get Qwik to go in with me?

Swaggs · 07-26-2005, 06:27 PM

This sounds a little bit more substantial than the grounds I was using to pick Neon Chaos and Coffee Warlord's powers seem a little too grand for one role. Either way, this will tell us a lot.

Unvote Neon Chaos

Vote Coffee Warlord

Coffee Warlord · 07-26-2005, 06:28 PM

Well, I'm going to give humanity the last piece of info about myself. If I die today, this needs to be known. Of course, if everyone thinks I'm full of shit, it really doesn't make a damn bit of difference until the end of the game when you're trying to figure out why the aliens have won. BUT.

I am human. I am a grizzled veteran of the Mars Campaign. I also didn't escape Mars fully unscathed. I bear something of an ectoplasmic taint, compliments of a lot of dead aliens. As such, I show up on the computer's scanners as containing enough ectoplasmic radiation to be counted as an alien.

So yes. I die today, the count will drop. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I guarded myself the first night (yes, I can do that, which is why I came out with all of this in the first place), I guarded Qwikshot the second night. There's my job.

Take it for what you will. I now REALLY have nothing more I can say.

Coffee Warlord · 07-26-2005, 06:30 PM

Dola. Okay, I had a little more to say. And for those of you questioning my rather high role, I give to you the above to point out I'm not exactly without one brutal ass flaw.

digamma · 07-26-2005, 06:34 PM

I'm going to go with a hunch here and vote Neon_Chaos.

I'm out for the next few hours.

I hope we made the right choice.

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Well, I'm going to give humanity the last piece of info about myself. If I die today, this needs to be known. Of course, if everyone thinks I'm full of shit, it really doesn't make a damn bit of difference until the end of the game when you're trying to figure out why the aliens have won. BUT.

I am human. I am a grizzled veteran of the Mars Campaign. I also didn't escape Mars fully unscathed. I bear something of an ectoplasmic taint, compliments of a lot of dead aliens. As such, I show up on the computer's scanners as containing enough ectoplasmic radiation to be counted as an alien.

So yes. I die today, the count will drop. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I guarded myself the first night (yes, I can do that, which is why I came out with all of this in the first place), I guarded Qwikshot the second night. There's my job.

Take it for what you will. I now REALLY have nothing more I can say.

*sigh* That sounds soooooo good....almost too good to be true. I admit I've been paranoid the entire game, but I think justifiably so. You're making me second guess myself.

SirFozzie · 07-26-2005, 06:36 PM

25 minutes to go. Voting will promptly end at 8:00

Since there is such a close vote, be prepared. I am keeping GOOD track of the voting.

If there is a tie.. you will know it right at 8:00.

Fouts · 07-26-2005, 06:36 PM

I've given so many fricking clues and I don't know what else to do. We get played so easy, so I guess we deserve to die.

JeeberD · 07-26-2005, 06:39 PM

Oh good lord, I don't know who to trust anymore...

Fouts · 07-26-2005, 06:43 PM

I have alot of knowledge of what is going on. This is an important vote, do not screw this up!

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 06:45 PM

And what is your solid information? I know CW is an alien who was seen near Peregrine's room. What more do you have to offer?

Fouts · 07-26-2005, 06:47 PM

:hides:

hoopsguy · 07-26-2005, 06:49 PM

Vote Coffee Warlord

Like yesterday, I guess I'm looking for a case to vote for a guy that didn't sit quite right with me. The multiple powers and now the alien taint seems like too much. Will type more after I get the vote in, don't want to miss the deadline.

Fouts · 07-26-2005, 06:50 PM

If we lose the bodyguard, we are screwed. I can't believe how easily we are suckered.

Fouts · 07-26-2005, 06:51 PM

Can i just sneak out of the base? These other people deserve to die.

SirFozzie · 07-26-2005, 06:52 PM

I assume that's a request for information..

Nope, the computer's got all exits sealed tight. you're actually on recycled air..

hoopsguy · 07-26-2005, 06:53 PM

Coffee, you are saying we are damned if we do and damned if we don't? If we shoot you and see one less, then it wasn't because you are an alien? Fricking genius mind-fuck before dying ...

Raiders, if those numbers don't go down you are now on the block instead of Neon tomorrow morning.

Neon, if you are not an alien then you are going to be very damn lucky to escape today ... I completely didn't get the vote for yourself strategy and feel like you wasted a lot of our time here today because of this.

Coffee Warlord · 07-26-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Coffee, you are saying we are damned if we do and damned if we don't? If we shoot you and see one less, then it wasn't because you are an alien? Fricking genius mind-fuck before dying ...

A damn shame it's the truth, and we'll prolly lose because most everyone doesn't believe it.

Raiders Army · 07-26-2005, 06:56 PM

Yeah. Like my head's never been on the block....

I think I remember someone saying they were going to lay low this game...wait, that was me.

Fouts · 07-26-2005, 06:57 PM

I'm dead tonight, so I'm going to spill the beans;

Ecto's - Neon, Raiders, Hoops (converted)

CW is bodyguard. Hopefully I can sneak out of here.

hoopsguy · 07-26-2005, 06:57 PM

By the way, does everyone in this fricking game have a power besides me? Two nights ago everyone is a grunt and now everyone has inventions, visions, scanning abilities, bodyguards, and other secret info. I thought there were more of us than any of the other groups.

SirFozzie, what do I need to do to get in line for some kind of an edge, or at least an equalizer here?

07-26-2005, 05:40 PM	#502
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Unvote Neon_Chaos __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

07-26-2005, 05:44 PM	#505
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	By the way...how much are the aliens loving it if BOTH Neon and CW are good guys? Sigh. It would be a great time for someone with seer-type powers to stand up and say that one of them is clear or not. Though that would probably just confuse us all more. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

07-26-2005, 05:45 PM	#507
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Dola -- my first post up there was being composed while Qwik was replying -- I didn't know he had voted for CW yet. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

07-26-2005, 05:47 PM	#508
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	This seems to have turned into a CW vs. Neon showdown, with CW claiming that Blade is not a Cryssalid (thus requiring that Neon is one), Qwik being quite certain that Blade as a baddie the whole way through (but not sure if he was a Cryssalid or not... X-COM vets seem to have indicated that he was). CW, you claim that the aliens know your role; you've been descriptive enough of what you claim to have seen, do you feel comfortable giving us any more information about what that role is or what your abilities are? __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

07-26-2005, 05:49 PM	#509
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I just want to point out something that came to my attention just now, as I was rereading... that CW says he can scan people (saying he scanned Blade, Peregrine)... and he can guard people (says he guarded Qwikshot last night)? AND that he received some info that the aliens knew who he is through some voices whispered though him (perhaps telepathy?) What? I think he had a major slip up on that one... what kind of role does he have? Superman? The more I think about it, the more I think I'm doing the right thing by fighting this. __________________ Come and see.

07-26-2005, 05:39 PM	#501
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Coffee Warlord The more I think about it, the more I'm not buying it. The room was slimy. It was a gathering place. While it didn't tell me if it was black, I'm kind of leaning towards black goo. He was a boss. If CW was a good guy, my bad, but I'm very doubtful. Neon isn't off my list either though but for now CW gets my vote.

07-26-2005, 05:42 PM	#504
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Sigh. Whelp, I don't know what else to tell ya'll. I've given every shred of information I have on the matter, and if that ain't good enough, so be it. In my mind, with the information I have, it's an open and shut case against Neon, so I went for it. If I fucked it up, I'll die tomorrow. (Hell, I might die today). However, I'm certain enough that I'm right that I put my own life on the line.

07-26-2005, 05:45 PM	#506
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'm not "pushing" for him as well. But if I think that at least one of the two, Neon_Chaos and Coffee Warlord is an alien, and Qwik is voting for Coffee, then that confirms the way I go. I am positive that Qwik was not converted last night, since there were once five ectos and now there are four (Blade bit it)...he's about the only one I trust at this point, and I can only assume that everyone else is mucking up the picture.

07-26-2005, 05:49 PM	#510
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Also, if the aliens know your role, then when did they learn it?

07-26-2005, 05:50 PM	#512
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I believe it when CW says he is a Veteran of the war. Qwik just doesn't have any solid information. I vote for Neon_Chaos

07-26-2005, 05:50 PM	#513
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	And why wouldn't you fight it???

07-26-2005, 05:53 PM	#514
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I wanted to see if anyone is out there to disprove CW's theory. Apparently noone's been watching over CW anyway. So I guess it's just a matter of he said, I said. Not that openly thumping my chest and proclaiming my innocence would do me any good... it didn't do anyone good the last Werewolf games. __________________ Come and see.

07-26-2005, 05:55 PM	#515
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Only major reason I've been cagey about my exact role is, quite simply, I don't want a repeat of last night's insanity. Thus, I've been trying to describe my role more "in character" than just flat out "I'm a so and so." That said, the information I have gathered is entirely incidental. It's stuff that's happened to me during the course of the night, or stuff I've heard/seen during the night. I have no particular ability to scan aliens, mind probe people, etc, etc, etc. This is all stuff that has happened to me while I've been trying to guard people.

07-26-2005, 05:57 PM	#517
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Here's my decision on the day. I vote Neon_Chaos. Something that we haven't discussed at all -- what about Blade's last words? "Computer.. do your worst. I'm not afriad to die.. you all are afraid to Live! Live like we were going to!" This sentence is about all the clue we get as to what Blade was (from the mod). His use of the word we seems to be the clutch part of it to me. If he is talking to us X-Com people, and using the inclusive we, that implies to me that he was at some point an X-Com guy. And personally, I think his actions on day one illustrate that as well. Now, he sounds as if he was happy about the way things had gone -- sounds an awful lot like a converted person would, in my opinion. Imagine, for a second (independent of Qwik's analysis, I'll get to that later) -- that Blade was indeed converted. That means that the Chryssalid is still out there, and that it probably can and will convert another of us -- which is like a double whammy, not only do we lose a good guy, but they gain a bad guy. Now, as I showed in the instances that I have described above, I'm fairly certain that Neon_Chaos is a bad guy whether or not CW is telling the truth -- knowing that CW would die instantly tomorrow if Neon was innocent seems to make that strategy of isolating one person a pretty bad idea. This, combined with the chance, however small, that CW is a good guy, lead me to vote for Neon_Chaos. The only part that doesn't fit in is Qwik's analysis of Blade's room. I would also tend to believe that would indicate that Blade was an original baddie...but again, if that's the case, then I think that Neon_Chaos is a bad guy as well, because CW has no reason to lie unless he's a bad guy, and if he is lying, the only scenario that makes Neon_Chaos a good guy seems to be a very poor tactical move by the aliens. So to make a long story short, I think Neon's a bad guy either way, and I'm not 100% sold on CW yet, so I'm sticking with Neon. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

07-26-2005, 06:00 PM	#518
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	For better or for worse. Sorry, Neon. Unless it rains, I won't be back in time to change my mind again. Vote Neon_Chaos __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

07-26-2005, 06:10 PM	#522
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Fuck. The water just got even murkier... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-26-2005, 06:22 PM	#529
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Not much of a defense to me...bye bye.

07-26-2005, 06:23 PM	#530
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	If I am lying, then how did I get Qwik to go in with me?

07-26-2005, 06:27 PM	#531
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	This sounds a little bit more substantial than the grounds I was using to pick Neon Chaos and Coffee Warlord's powers seem a little too grand for one role. Either way, this will tell us a lot. Unvote Neon Chaos Vote Coffee Warlord __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-26-2005, 06:28 PM	#532
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Well, I'm going to give humanity the last piece of info about myself. If I die today, this needs to be known. Of course, if everyone thinks I'm full of shit, it really doesn't make a damn bit of difference until the end of the game when you're trying to figure out why the aliens have won. BUT. I am human. I am a grizzled veteran of the Mars Campaign. I also didn't escape Mars fully unscathed. I bear something of an ectoplasmic taint, compliments of a lot of dead aliens. As such, I show up on the computer's scanners as containing enough ectoplasmic radiation to be counted as an alien. So yes. I die today, the count will drop. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I guarded myself the first night (yes, I can do that, which is why I came out with all of this in the first place), I guarded Qwikshot the second night. There's my job. Take it for what you will. I now REALLY have nothing more I can say.

07-26-2005, 06:30 PM	#533
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Dola. Okay, I had a little more to say. And for those of you questioning my rather high role, I give to you the above to point out I'm not exactly without one brutal ass flaw.

07-26-2005, 06:34 PM	#534
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I'm going to go with a hunch here and vote Neon_Chaos. I'm out for the next few hours. I hope we made the right choice.

07-26-2005, 06:36 PM	#536
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	25 minutes to go. Voting will promptly end at 8:00 Since there is such a close vote, be prepared. I am keeping GOOD track of the voting. If there is a tie.. you will know it right at 8:00. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-26-2005, 06:36 PM	#537
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I've given so many fricking clues and I don't know what else to do. We get played so easy, so I guess we deserve to die.

07-26-2005, 06:39 PM	#538
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Oh good lord, I don't know who to trust anymore... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-26-2005, 06:43 PM	#539
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I have alot of knowledge of what is going on. This is an important vote, do not screw this up!

07-26-2005, 06:45 PM	#540
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	And what is your solid information? I know CW is an alien who was seen near Peregrine's room. What more do you have to offer?

07-26-2005, 06:47 PM	#541
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	:hides: Last edited by Fouts : 07-26-2005 at 06:47 PM.

07-26-2005, 06:49 PM	#542
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Vote Coffee Warlord Like yesterday, I guess I'm looking for a case to vote for a guy that didn't sit quite right with me. The multiple powers and now the alien taint seems like too much. Will type more after I get the vote in, don't want to miss the deadline.

07-26-2005, 06:50 PM	#543
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	If we lose the bodyguard, we are screwed. I can't believe how easily we are suckered.

07-26-2005, 06:51 PM	#544
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Can i just sneak out of the base? These other people deserve to die.

07-26-2005, 06:52 PM	#545
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I assume that's a request for information.. Nope, the computer's got all exits sealed tight. you're actually on recycled air.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-26-2005, 06:53 PM	#546
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Coffee, you are saying we are damned if we do and damned if we don't? If we shoot you and see one less, then it wasn't because you are an alien? Fricking genius mind-fuck before dying ... Raiders, if those numbers don't go down you are now on the block instead of Neon tomorrow morning. Neon, if you are not an alien then you are going to be very damn lucky to escape today ... I completely didn't get the vote for yourself strategy and feel like you wasted a lot of our time here today because of this.

07-26-2005, 06:56 PM	#548
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Yeah. Like my head's never been on the block.... I think I remember someone saying they were going to lay low this game...wait, that was me.

07-26-2005, 06:57 PM	#549
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm dead tonight, so I'm going to spill the beans; Ecto's - Neon, Raiders, Hoops (converted) CW is bodyguard. Hopefully I can sneak out of here.