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Old 10-17-2013, 06:25 PM   #1
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Your "all-star" Team

Here are the rules:

1.The player must have made the all-star team at some point in his career.
2.The player must have had the equivalent of one full season or less with your team (ie, can play two years with your team if it doesn't add up to one full season)
3.The player is not known for being on your team.

Any sport allowed.

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Old 10-17-2013, 06:25 PM   #2
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Lets get the ball rolling with the White Sox.

C Charles Johnson
1B Norm Cash
2b Roberto Alomar
3b Ken Boyer
SS Vern Stephens
OF Darin Erstad
OF Ken Griffey Jr
OF Danny Tartabull
DH Jose Canseco

SP Steve Carlton
SP David Wells
SP David Righetti
SP Doug Drabek
SP Dave Steib

RP ???? I couldn't find anyone who would fit the criteria. Billy Koch was the closest, but according to baseball reference he never made the all-star team and he was with the white sox for a season and a half.

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Old 10-17-2013, 07:06 PM   #3
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Never mind, thought the rule said had to play a full season.

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Old 10-17-2013, 07:11 PM   #4
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I thought this would be fun as a puzzle, and as a wow I can't believe so and so played with that team and finally seeing who can put together the best team for their franchise.

Don't know if the one year rule makes it too hard.

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Old 10-17-2013, 07:21 PM   #5
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This one will take a while. (though I could probably come up with a decent one for the Flyers)
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:56 PM   #6
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Red Sox

C Javy Lopez
1b John Olerud
2b Carlos Baerga
SS Hanley Ramirez
3b Adrian Beltre
OF Rickey Henderson
OF Al Simmons
OF Carl Crawford
DH Orlando Cepeda

SP John Smoltz
SP Frank Tanana
SP David Cone
SP Juan Marichal
SP Tom Seaver
RP Eric Gagne

Probably some serious oversights here.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:13 PM   #7
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Rickey Henderson, wow. Had to look that one up. 2002. Hit around 220 but still managed to get 8 stolen bases
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:56 PM   #8
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Phillies

C Benito Santiago
1B Jimmie Foxx
2B Ryne Sandberg
3B Michael Young
SS Julio Franco
OF Kenny Lofton
OF Harvey Kuenn
OF Mike Easler

P Fernando Valenzuela
P Ken Brett
P Pedro Martinez
P Mike Krukow
P Willie Hernandez
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:06 PM   #9
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Rickey Henderson, wow. Had to look that one up. 2002. Hit around 220 but still managed to get 8 stolen bases

Rickey is going to be on a lot of teams I think.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:35 PM   #10
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Red Sox

C Javy Lopez
1b John Olerud
2b Carlos Baerga
SS Hanley Ramirez
3b Adrian Beltre
OF Rickey Henderson
OF Al Simmons
OF Carl Crawford
DH Orlando Cepeda

SP John Smoltz
SP Frank Tanana
SP David Cone
SP Juan Marichal
SP Tom Seaver
RP Eric Gagne

Probably some serious oversights here.

Cy Young?
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:10 AM   #11
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Cy Young?

He played more than a season with the Red Sox.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:36 PM   #12
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FC Utrecht
G Franck Grandel (Guadeloupe)
RB John O'Brien (USA)
D Theo Lucius (Netherlands)
LB Costakis Costa (Cyprus)
RW Gerald Vanenburg (Netherlands)
M Kevin Strootman (Netherlands)
M Erik Mykland (Norway)
LW Lucian Sanmartean (Romania)
A Adil Ramzi (Morocco)
A Scott Booth (Scotland)
A Morten Skoubo (Denmark)

G Khalid Sinouh (Morocco)
RW Mourad Mghizrat (Morocco)
RW Tibor Dombi (Hungary)
LW Peter Kopteff (Finland)
M Toshiya Fujita (Japan)
A Ali Boussaboun (Morocco)
A Kevin Vandenbergh (Belgium)


To determine 'all-stars' I took the liberty to go with players that played an official match for their national (soccer) team. To determine less than a full seasons, I used 33 league matches as the maximum allowed (34 is a full season). To make it more interesting, I also added a full bench of 7 players, because I felt it would be a waste to dig up these names and then delete those that didn't make my starting eleven. All played for FC Utrecht in or after 1995 (I started watching dutch soccer in the 1994/95 season). Finally, note that it was nearly impossible to find players that played a defensive role - I actually had to switch John O'Brien (a midfielder) to right back, which he sparsely played - and had to settle with an unbalanced 3-4-3 formation.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:03 PM   #13
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Phillies

C Benito Santiago
1B Jimmie Foxx
2B Ryne Sandberg
3B Michael Young
SS Julio Franco
OF Kenny Lofton
OF Harvey Kuenn
OF Mike Easler

P Fernando Valenzuela
P Ken Brett
P Pedro Martinez
P Mike Krukow
P Willie Hernandez

Perhaps this is against the spirit of the exercise, but grabbing some HOF from this list: Philadelphia Phillies Player Career Batting Register - Baseball-Reference.com that I'd consider swapping in:

CF - Lloyd Waner
LF - Hack Wilson
SP - Fergie Jenkins (started as a Phillie )
2B - Joe Morgan (Sandberg is good, but Morgan...probably better)

Honorable mentions to Tony Perez and Al Oliver (and Vic Power, I suppose), but nobody is going to supplant Foxx.

*Might* also be tempted to put Bob Walk on there instead of Ken Brett (though I guess Fergie bumps them both).
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:56 PM   #14
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Reds

C- Benito Santiago
1B- Paul Konerko
2B- Juan Samuel
3B- Curt Flood
SS- Edgar Renteria
OF- Paul Blair
OF- Vince Coleman
OF- Jim Edmonds

P- Mordecai Brown(pre All-Star, but a HOFer)
P- Rube Marquard (pre All-Star, but a HOFer)
P- Christy Mathewson (pre All-Star, but a HOFer)
P- Frank Viola
P- David Wells
RP- Lee Smith
RP- Kent Tekulve
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:06 PM   #15
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C - Charles Johnson
1B - Fred McGriff
2B - Orlando Hudson
3B - Dick Allen
SS - Hubie Brooks (didn't play SS in LA, but that's what he played his AS year)

LF - Rickey Henderson
CF - Kenny Lofton
RF - Luis Gonzalez

SP - Greg Maddux
SP - Juan Marichal (*spits*)
SP - Jim Bunning
SP - Joe McGinnity
SP - David Wells

RP - Hank Aguirre
RP - Schoolboy Rowe
RP - Carlos Marmol
RP - Ken Brett
RP - Mudcat Grant

CL - Brian Wilson
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Old 10-19-2013, 10:10 PM   #16
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Perhaps this is against the spirit of the exercise, but grabbing some HOF from this list: Philadelphia Phillies Player Career Batting Register - Baseball-Reference.com that I'd consider swapping in:

CF - Lloyd Waner
LF - Hack Wilson
SP - Fergie Jenkins (started as a Phillie )
2B - Joe Morgan (Sandberg is good, but Morgan...probably better)

Honorable mentions to Tony Perez and Al Oliver (and Vic Power, I suppose), but nobody is going to supplant Foxx.

*Might* also be tempted to put Bob Walk on there instead of Ken Brett (though I guess Fergie bumps them both).

Missed Fergie because he was over two seasons (though limited). Was looking through the history at players with just one season (didn't feel like investigating the 2 season guys to see if it was limited enough time to still count; chalk it up to laziness ).

I don't believe Hack Wilson ever was an all-star. I thought the game didn't start until the end of his career.

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Old 10-19-2013, 10:34 PM   #17
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Yeah, you're right about Wilson. That would have to be up for an official ruling (I'm sure he *would* have made one).
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:30 AM   #18
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Missed Fergie because he was over two seasons (though limited). Was looking through the history at players with just one season (didn't feel like investigating the 2 season guys to see if it was limited enough time to still count; chalk it up to laziness ).

I don't believe Hack Wilson ever was an all-star. I thought the game didn't start until the end of his career.

I went by what bb-ref had to say when it came time to fill out the bullpen. McGinnity might also have been a bb-ref call.
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