Can we get rid of the arrows

Easy Mac · 01-24-2003, 10:13 AM

Those little down arrows next to the posts are really annoying.

I don't want to be told my post sucks, i know it sucks. plus i think they get in the way and make the board look cluttered.

Fidatelo · 01-24-2003, 10:17 AM

Don't those arrows indicate posts that have been updated since the last time you refreshed? I would think that would be handy, saves memorizing post counts.

Easy Mac · 01-24-2003, 10:19 AM

well, whatever, can we just have a way to turn them off, even manually.

It just makes the board look crappy. I'd type more but my rice krispies are getting soggy

Anrhydeddu · 01-24-2003, 10:20 AM

No, they just go to the last unread post in the thread.

The threads with the open envelope are the ones that have new posts in them. The ones with a closed gray envelope are the ones with no new posts. It looks like the red envelopes are just the hot threads?

Marmel · 01-24-2003, 10:21 AM

I'm with easymac on this one. Annoying.

Also, please, please, please get rid of the 'rating' of the thread.

Easy Mac · 01-24-2003, 10:22 AM

well fuck, now my krispies are soggy. no more typing for me.

Easy Mac · 01-24-2003, 10:22 AM

DOLA

Marmel likes me, he really likes me.

Anrhydeddu · 01-24-2003, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marmel
I'm with easymac on this one. Annoying.

Also, please, please, please get rid of the 'rating' of the thread.

Agree on both counts.

Marmel · 01-24-2003, 10:26 AM

ABucc and I agree totally, on something?

quickly, to edit my posts!

sachmo71 · 01-24-2003, 10:26 AM

I like the arrows. I don't care one way or the other about the thread rating deal, but I don't see the harm. *shrug*

Fidatelo · 01-24-2003, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
No, they just go to the last unread post in the thread.

The threads with the open envelope are the ones that have new posts in them. The ones with a closed gray envelope are the ones with no new posts. It looks like the red envelopes are just the hot threads?

Oh I see, then ya I agree, arrows are annoying. I even tried one out and it took me to the last post even though there were others above that I hadn't read yet.

So I vote for arrow removal as well

Fritz · 01-24-2003, 10:40 AM

why dont we let Ryan and Co. get this thing in order before pestering them with requests?

Ben E Lou · 01-24-2003, 10:57 AM

Actually we WANT these kinds of requests. Heading to the control panel...

Fritz · 01-24-2003, 11:06 AM

nevermind then

Ben E Lou · 01-24-2003, 11:07 AM

'k...thread ratings gone....I haven't figured out how to remove the arrows yet, and I'm not convinced yet that they aren't a good thing..

3ric · 01-24-2003, 11:09 AM

Maybe you could switch the graphic icon to something else?

Bee · 01-24-2003, 11:37 AM

I don't like the arrows myself. I think they are a little distracting.

vtbub · 01-24-2003, 01:44 PM

I like the arrows, it makes it easier to figure out what's been freshly posted.

Daimyo · 01-24-2003, 01:48 PM

Here is what I think the symbols mean:

Left hand column with the envelopes shows which threads have posts you have not yet read. The arrows show which threads have had new posts since the last time you marked every thing as read.

Daimyo · 01-24-2003, 01:51 PM

DOLA

I think I can confirm what I just said. I marked every as read and there were no red envelopes or arrows. Once someone repleid to a thread, it showed with both a red envelope and an arrow. After reading the post and going back to the index, the envelop was grey, but the arrow remained. After marking all posts as read the arrow was gone and the envelope was still grey.

If you click on the down arrow it also takes you to the first new post in that thread since you last marked things as read.

Anrhydeddu · 01-24-2003, 01:54 PM

If you put your cursor over the Arrow, the Tooltip says "Go to first new post". To me, this is somewhat redundant compared to the different envelopes (I think that column is much more detailed, Daimyo) but it is a shortcut instead of scrolling down. Somehow at Apolyton, when you open an existing thread, it knows where you left off (which can be annoying).

Anrhydeddu · 01-24-2003, 01:57 PM

Dola

Why bother marking all as read? Every time you refresh, it gets dynamically updated, doesn't it?

Ksyrup · 01-24-2003, 02:02 PM

I don't get it. I still got an arrow on a thread for which I had already read the last post. To have to mark each thread individually so that the arrow will be accurate (I think that's what you are saying) is a lot of trouble for not much gain, IMO.

Daimyo · 01-24-2003, 02:05 PM

The arrows say nothing about what you've actually read. They basically tell you what posts are new since the last time you've been to the forum (or since manually marking things read - you can do this by forum or for the entire board at once). The envelopes on the far left are what tell you what you've actually read or not read.

Anrhydeddu · 01-24-2003, 02:10 PM

Quote:

They basically tell you what posts are new since the last time you've been to the forum

Are you sure? They don't seem to get updated automatically.

Daimyo · 01-24-2003, 02:11 PM

DOLA

Here is the key explaining what the envelopes mean. In case it doesn't show up:

white envelope: new posts
red envelope: new posts to a thread with more than 15 replies or 150 views
grey envelope: no new posts
grey envelope with sparks: no new posts to a thread with more than 15 replies

Daimyo · 01-24-2003, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
Are you sure? They don't seem to get updated automatically.

You've got to actually leave for a certain amount of time and then come back (or mark the forum read) for them to reset.

Anrhydeddu · 01-24-2003, 02:13 PM

Don't forget the ones with the black dot.

I still don't see any purpose of the arrows.

Daimyo · 01-24-2003, 02:15 PM

Looks to me like the black dot means you've posted (or voted) in that thread.

Fido · 01-24-2003, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sachmo71
I like the arrows. I don't care one way or the other about the thread rating deal, but I don't see the harm. *shrug*

Even is we remove them from the main page, there's the same function at the top of the thread page.

Ksyrup · 01-24-2003, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Daimyo
The arrows say nothing about what you've actually read. They basically tell you what posts are new since the last time you've been to the forum (or since manually marking things read - you can do this by forum or for the entire board at once). The envelopes on the far left are what tell you what you've actually read or not read.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I viewed the last post in a particular thread, left, came back, saw the arrow by that thread, hit the arrow, and it took me to the last post, which I had already read.

Samdari · 01-24-2003, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ksyrup
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I viewed the last post in a particular thread, left, came back, saw the arrow by that thread, hit the arrow, and it took me to the last post, which I had already read.

If you are talking about the right pointing arrows to the right of the thread title, leaving your cursor over them will give you a tooltip saying "go to last post" That could be why you are transported to the last post in the thread every time you click on them.

korme · 01-24-2003, 03:40 PM

Unfortunately, you can not get rid of the arrows. The best solution is to make new arrows, but make them smaller!

Fortunately, you CAN get rid of the thread ratings! Admins, just go to your forum options, and for each forum, you can turn off thread ratings.

cthomer5000 · 01-24-2003, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by Fido
Even is we remove them from the main page, there's the same function at the top of the thread page.

not to mention, hitting the "end" button launches you to the bottom of the screen.

stkelly52 · 01-24-2003, 05:25 PM

I like the down arrow. It lets you go to the first new post since you last visited the thread. I am often trying to find where I left off the last time, and this is very helpfull

01-24-2003, 10:17 AM	#2
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Don't those arrows indicate posts that have been updated since the last time you refreshed? I would think that would be handy, saves memorizing post counts. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

01-24-2003, 10:20 AM	#4
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	No, they just go to the last unread post in the thread. The threads with the open envelope are the ones that have new posts in them. The ones with a closed gray envelope are the ones with no new posts. It looks like the red envelopes are just the hot threads? Last edited by Anrhydeddu : 01-24-2003 at 10:25 AM.

01-24-2003, 10:21 AM	#5
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	I'm with easymac on this one. Annoying. Also, please, please, please get rid of the 'rating' of the thread. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

01-24-2003, 10:26 AM	#9
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	ABucc and I agree totally, on something? quickly, to edit my posts! __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

01-24-2003, 10:40 AM	#12
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	why dont we let Ryan and Co. get this thing in order before pestering them with requests? __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

01-24-2003, 10:19 AM	#3
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	well, whatever, can we just have a way to turn them off, even manually. It just makes the board look crappy. I'd type more but my rice krispies are getting soggy

01-24-2003, 10:22 AM	#6
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	well fuck, now my krispies are soggy. no more typing for me.

01-24-2003, 10:26 AM	#10
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	I like the arrows. I don't care one way or the other about the thread rating deal, but I don't see the harm. shrug

01-24-2003, 10:57 AM	#13
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Actually we WANT these kinds of requests. Heading to the control panel... __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

01-24-2003, 11:06 AM	#14
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	nevermind then __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

01-24-2003, 11:07 AM	#15
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	'k...thread ratings gone....I haven't figured out how to remove the arrows yet, and I'm not convinced yet that they aren't a good thing.. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

01-24-2003, 11:09 AM	#16
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Maybe you could switch the graphic icon to something else? __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

01-24-2003, 11:37 AM	#17
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I don't like the arrows myself. I think they are a little distracting.

01-24-2003, 01:44 PM	#18
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	I like the arrows, it makes it easier to figure out what's been freshly posted. __________________

01-24-2003, 01:48 PM	#19
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	Here is what I think the symbols mean: Left hand column with the envelopes shows which threads have posts you have not yet read. The arrows show which threads have had new posts since the last time you marked every thing as read.

01-24-2003, 01:51 PM	#20
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	DOLA I think I can confirm what I just said. I marked every as read and there were no red envelopes or arrows. Once someone repleid to a thread, it showed with both a red envelope and an arrow. After reading the post and going back to the index, the envelop was grey, but the arrow remained. After marking all posts as read the arrow was gone and the envelope was still grey. If you click on the down arrow it also takes you to the first new post in that thread since you last marked things as read. Last edited by Daimyo : 01-24-2003 at 01:52 PM.

01-24-2003, 01:54 PM	#21
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	If you put your cursor over the Arrow, the Tooltip says "Go to first new post". To me, this is somewhat redundant compared to the different envelopes (I think that column is much more detailed, Daimyo) but it is a shortcut instead of scrolling down. Somehow at Apolyton, when you open an existing thread, it knows where you left off (which can be annoying).

01-24-2003, 01:57 PM	#22
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	Dola Why bother marking all as read? Every time you refresh, it gets dynamically updated, doesn't it?

01-24-2003, 02:02 PM	#23
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I don't get it. I still got an arrow on a thread for which I had already read the last post. To have to mark each thread individually so that the arrow will be accurate (I think that's what you are saying) is a lot of trouble for not much gain, IMO. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-24-2003, 02:05 PM	#24
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	The arrows say nothing about what you've actually read. They basically tell you what posts are new since the last time you've been to the forum (or since manually marking things read - you can do this by forum or for the entire board at once). The envelopes on the far left are what tell you what you've actually read or not read.

01-24-2003, 02:11 PM	#26
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	DOLA Here is the key explaining what the envelopes mean. In case it doesn't show up: white envelope: new posts red envelope: new posts to a thread with more than 15 replies or 150 views grey envelope: no new posts grey envelope with sparks: no new posts to a thread with more than 15 replies Last edited by Daimyo : 01-24-2003 at 02:13 PM.

01-24-2003, 02:13 PM	#28
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	Don't forget the ones with the black dot. I still don't see any purpose of the arrows.

01-24-2003, 02:15 PM	#29
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	Looks to me like the black dot means you've posted (or voted) in that thread. Last edited by Daimyo : 01-24-2003 at 02:15 PM.

01-24-2003, 03:40 PM	#33
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Unfortunately, you can not get rid of the arrows. The best solution is to make new arrows, but make them smaller! Fortunately, you CAN get rid of the thread ratings! Admins, just go to your forum options, and for each forum, you can turn off thread ratings.

01-24-2003, 05:25 PM	#35
stkelly52 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle WA	I like the down arrow. It lets you go to the first new post since you last visited the thread. I am often trying to find where I left off the last time, and this is very helpfull __________________ Check out an undrafted free agent's attempt to make the Hall of Fame: Running to the Hall Now nominated for a Golden Scribe!

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