World Cup 2018/2022 announcements - Page 5

Lathum · 01-08-2011, 09:28 AM

dola- another factor is that when the game is in the summer kids are out of school. Everyone 17 and under can watch all the games during the week. Who will be home to watch games during the work/ school week?

MIJB#19 · 01-08-2011, 10:05 AM

How is the situation in the USA any different from the rest of the world? No matter where the WC is held, there will be parts of the world where people will be at work, asleep or doing other stuff (like watching 4 NFL football games over one weekend). Besides, FIFA cosiders itself bigger than everything else in the world and won't be too concerned about losing viewers from the USA if they can win them back elsewhere. And they'll probably stay away from Super Sunday.
Now, whether sponsors feel the same way is a different story. I'd suspect that some of the big ones prefer 10M viewers from the USA over 20M random Eastern European and 20M African viewers.

Anyway, the key issue here is that the whole 'move to January' thing hasn't been part of the whole proces until after the tournament has been placed. That's where 100% of the soccer world will be influences and forced to change the normal schedules.

Lathum · 01-08-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Now, whether sponsors feel the same way is a different story. I'd suspect that some of the big ones prefer 10M viewers from the USA over 20M random Eastern European and 20M African viewers.

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This.

40 million viewers who make 5 dollars a day don't mean shit to coke.

bronconick · 05-13-2011, 04:36 PM

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/qatar...rt-399028.html

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Six FIFA officials were prepared to sell their votes for up to $1.5m each to push through Qatar’s bid to host the 2022 World Cup, according to new revelations disclosed Tuesday.
Evidence presented to a British House of Commons’ inquiry reported claims of corruption behind Qatar’s surprise win in hosting the 2022 tournament, including a network of bribery that implicated senior FIFA officials.

Absolutely shocking

/sarcasm.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2011, 04:43 PM

Feel like they should re-vote and get it out of that sand-infested shithole.

tyketime · 05-13-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Feel like they should re-vote and get it out of that sand-infested shithole.

DT: I would LOVE to see that happen... I'm just not so sure FIFA would...

EagleFan · 05-13-2011, 08:26 PM

Corruption in FIFA? I'm.... shocked?

Passacaglia · 05-14-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Feel like they should re-vote and get it out of that sand-infested shithole.

Who's going to make them?

Galaxy · 05-14-2011, 11:26 AM

Boycott the WC if they don't.

MIJB#19 · 05-14-2011, 11:38 AM

At the same time, this will be regarded by FIFA as political infringement with soccer stuff, which to FIFA is worth a suspension for that national team.
And then there's the FIFA preseidency election in a week or two and a half.

RainMaker · 05-14-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Boycott the WC if they don't.

Probably the best move, not by fans by individual countries. If you can get a contingent of 20-30 of the biggest national teams stating they will boycott, FIFA would have no choice but to re-vote.

Mac Howard · 05-16-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

And then there's the FIFA preseidency election in a week or two and a half.

What I find puzzling about this is that only Blatter and the guy from Qatar are standing. Why does no one want the job?

UEFA is even worse - only Platini is offering himself.

I don't get it! So much power and no one wants it?

Ryan S · 05-17-2011, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac Howard

What I find puzzling about this is that only Blatter and the guy from Qatar are standing. Why does no one want the job?

UEFA is even worse - only Platini is offering himself.

I don't get it! So much power and no one wants it?

Other people want the job, they just can't get nominated.

What happened when Grant Wahl ran for FIFA president - Grant Wahl - SI.com

cartman · 11-08-2011, 12:44 PM

Looks like they are backing away from the ambitious air conditioning solution for the Qatar stadiums.

2022 World Cup -- Architect tells Qatar to ditch AC in stadiums - ESPN

DaddyTorgo · 11-08-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Looks like they are backing away from the ambitious air conditioning solution for the Qatar stadiums.

2022 World Cup -- Architect tells Qatar to ditch AC in stadiums - ESPN

LMAO - of course they are! This thing is going to be a fucking epic disaster.

gstelmack · 11-08-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by article

"Fan expectation needs to be a little more relaxed," he said.

Yeah, sure. You got the bid based on these promises (and wads of cash), and now WE have to relax our expectations?

RainMaker · 11-08-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Looks like they are backing away from the ambitious air conditioning solution for the Qatar stadiums.

2022 World Cup -- Architect tells Qatar to ditch AC in stadiums - ESPN

Wasn't this one of their big selling points?

bulletsponge · 11-08-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Wasn't this one of their big selling points?

big bags of money with $$ signs on them was the main selling point

sterlingice · 11-08-2011, 07:16 PM

To this day, I mean, I get the 2018 World Cup. Maybe we don't all agree with it. Undoubtedly, Russia sent slightly larger bags of money than England to FIFA headquarters. But, I mean, everyone knows who Russia is- big place, (former) superpower, used in a lot of Bond films. It's really not that crazy.

But, Qatar?? This isn't the US beats the Soviet Union in 1980 upset. This is Jamaica beats the Soviet Union while fielding a team with only 4 players, one of which is John Candy

SI

stevew · 11-08-2011, 07:21 PM

Isn't AC nearly impossible to work on that scale with little humidity? I'm most excited about 2014 and the possible fallout when Argentina wins.

ISiddiqui · 11-08-2011, 10:20 PM

Before we get too crazy, realize this is the architect saying it'd be "too expensive" to AC the stadiums. Qatar isn't exactly known as the most frugal of places.

gstelmack · 11-09-2011, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

But, Qatar?? This isn't the US beats the Soviet Union in 1980 upset. This is Jamaica beats the Soviet Union while fielding a team with only 4 players, one of which is John Candy

Well, to be fair the Soviet Union would have trouble getting a puck through John Candy and into the net, there simply wouldn't be room.

Logan · 05-14-2014, 11:25 AM

Know this thread is dated but didn't want to put this in the 2014 WC thread and derail the conversation.

Password is e60

Qatar's World Cup | ESPN E:60 ~ Jeremy Schaap from Bluefoot Entertainment on Vimeo.

Scoobz0202 · 05-14-2014, 01:00 PM

Does that video work for anybody else?

saldana · 05-14-2014, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Know this thread is dated but didn't want to put this in the 2014 WC thread and derail the conversation.

Password is e60

password didnt work

Scoobz0202 · 05-14-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

password didnt work

I started it earlier and it did work. Appears it is down now, though.

Logan · 05-14-2014, 01:44 PM

Guessing ESPN pulled it off that site to put it on their own. Will keep an eye out for it again.

Logan · 05-14-2014, 03:48 PM

From SI's Richard Deitsch:

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World Cup soccer fans: An update on the remarkable piece ESPN's E:60 did on Qatar:

The network was at its journalistic best last night with its report on migrant workers being brought in to build 2022 World Cup facilities -- and dying at awful rates. Last night the video was available on the website of the post-production team for the project, Bluefoot Productions.

Today Bluefoot has a note on it:

"We apologize, but due to ESPN affiliate sales contract rules, we are not allowed to post the feature online for three weeks. We will update you with any changes to the re-air schedule."

It's a short-sighted decision and I hope ESPN management makes an exception here to open up the video to the public on its social channels or Bluefront. People will still view the television re-airs but the piece deserves to get the widest possible run, and it's one that makes the network look very good. This is a moment where ESPN can use its usual over-the-top promotion for good.

Rules can be amended and I hope management reconsiders.

Thomkal · 05-16-2014, 06:41 AM

Sepp Blatter: awarding 2022 World Cup to Qatar was a mistake | Football | theguardian.com

flere-imsaho · 05-16-2014, 06:29 PM

I honestly don't know if that makes the situation better or worse....

bronconick · 05-16-2014, 07:29 PM

It's a shame that the money got successfully laundered last week do he could say that now.

bob · 05-16-2014, 08:08 PM

If only there was enough time to fix the mistake....

DaddyTorgo · 05-16-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bob

If only there was enough time to fix the mistake....

PilotMan · 05-31-2014, 10:19 PM

I don't doubt it for a second.

Report: Qatar Bought World Cup With Over $5 Million In Secret Payments

Critch · 05-31-2014, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I don't doubt it for a second.

The only surprising thing is how little cash it took.

DaddyTorgo · 05-31-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

The only surprising thing is how little cash it took.

This.

DaddyTorgo · 05-31-2014, 10:30 PM

The fact that it's still going to go ahead in Qatar is ridiculous at this point.

cougarfreak · 06-01-2014, 05:16 AM

Bring it to the US. Infrastructure already in place.

sterlingice · 06-01-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Critch

The only surprising thing is how little cash it took.

+2

SI

flere-imsaho · 06-02-2014, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

Bring it to the US. Infrastructure already in place.

+1

Critch · 06-02-2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

Bring it to the US. Infrastructure already in place.

They should play one of the games in Salt Lake City to maximize the irony of the US being awarded a sports event that's been stripped for judge-bribing.

ISiddiqui · 06-02-2014, 09:39 AM

Well, I guess Mitt Romney is free as well

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sterlingice · 06-02-2014, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Critch

They should play one of the games in Salt Lake City to maximize the irony of the US being awarded a sports event that's been stripped for judge-bribing.

SI

Critch · 06-09-2014, 01:15 PM

Sepp Blater says the corruption claims about the Qatar World Cup are motivated by racism:

BBC Sport - Qatar 2022: Sepp Blatter says corruption claims are racist

flere-imsaho · 06-09-2014, 02:22 PM

That's totally fair. I'm happy to admit that I'm prejudiced against old Swiss guys named Sepp Blatter. It may not be very 21st-century, of me, but frankly I'm just glad I got that off my chest.

PilotMan · 11-07-2014, 03:25 PM

Organized slavery in the modern world.

Report: Qatar Using North Korean Slave Labor To Build For World Cup

North Koreans working as â€˜state-sponsored slavesâ€™ in Qatar | Global development | The Guardian

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Defectors claim Pyongyang regime pockets 90% or more of earnings made by migrants working on construction sites in Qatar, where preparations are under way for 2022 World Cup

PilotMan · 11-12-2014, 06:26 PM

According to Deadspin, no changes in WC hosts, despite findings of corruption all over.

Spoiler Alert: After FIFA Probe, Qatar Gets To Keep Its World Cup

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The summary of a year-long investigation into the bidding process for the next two World Cups will not be released until tomorrow, but the gist has already leaked via the English press. Basically: everyone involved was corrupt, but the 2018 and 2022 tournaments will not be taken away from Russia or Qatar.

sterlingice · 11-12-2014, 06:50 PM

Each time this thread is bumped, I put about a 0.01% chance on reading that the World Cup has been moved to another country. I know it's highly unlikely but it's still on the table

SI

flere-imsaho · 11-12-2014, 07:02 PM

And FIFA takes the lead from the IOC as the most corrupt sporting body around!!!

01-08-2011, 10:05 AM	#202
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	How is the situation in the USA any different from the rest of the world? No matter where the WC is held, there will be parts of the world where people will be at work, asleep or doing other stuff (like watching 4 NFL football games over one weekend). Besides, FIFA cosiders itself bigger than everything else in the world and won't be too concerned about losing viewers from the USA if they can win them back elsewhere. And they'll probably stay away from Super Sunday. Now, whether sponsors feel the same way is a different story. I'd suspect that some of the big ones prefer 10M viewers from the USA over 20M random Eastern European and 20M African viewers. Anyway, the key issue here is that the whole 'move to January' thing hasn't been part of the whole proces until after the tournament has been placed. That's where 100% of the soccer world will be influences and forced to change the normal schedules. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

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05-14-2011, 11:38 AM	#210
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	At the same time, this will be regarded by FIFA as political infringement with soccer stuff, which to FIFA is worth a suspension for that national team. And then there's the FIFA preseidency election in a week or two and a half. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

11-08-2011, 12:44 PM	#214
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Looks like they are backing away from the ambitious air conditioning solution for the Qatar stadiums. 2022 World Cup -- Architect tells Qatar to ditch AC in stadiums - ESPN __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-08-2011, 07:16 PM	#220
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	To this day, I mean, I get the 2018 World Cup. Maybe we don't all agree with it. Undoubtedly, Russia sent slightly larger bags of money than England to FIFA headquarters. But, I mean, everyone knows who Russia is- big place, (former) superpower, used in a lot of Bond films. It's really not that crazy. But, Qatar?? This isn't the US beats the Soviet Union in 1980 upset. This is Jamaica beats the Soviet Union while fielding a team with only 4 players, one of which is John Candy SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

01-08-2011, 09:28 AM	#201
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- another factor is that when the game is in the summer kids are out of school. Everyone 17 and under can watch all the games during the week. Who will be home to watch games during the work/ school week?

05-13-2011, 04:43 PM	#205
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Feel like they should re-vote and get it out of that sand-infested shithole.

05-14-2011, 11:26 AM	#209
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Boycott the WC if they don't.

11-08-2011, 07:21 PM	#221
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Isn't AC nearly impossible to work on that scale with little humidity? I'm most excited about 2014 and the possible fallout when Argentina wins.

11-08-2011, 10:20 PM	#222
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Before we get too crazy, realize this is the architect saying it'd be "too expensive" to AC the stadiums. Qatar isn't exactly known as the most frugal of places. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

05-14-2014, 11:25 AM	#224
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Know this thread is dated but didn't want to put this in the 2014 WC thread and derail the conversation. Password is e60 Qatar's World Cup \| ESPN E:60 ~ Jeremy Schaap from Bluefoot Entertainment on Vimeo.

05-14-2014, 01:00 PM	#225
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Does that video work for anybody else?

05-14-2014, 01:44 PM	#228
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Guessing ESPN pulled it off that site to put it on their own. Will keep an eye out for it again.

05-16-2014, 06:41 AM	#230
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Sepp Blatter: awarding 2022 World Cup to Qatar was a mistake \| Football \| theguardian.com

05-16-2014, 06:29 PM	#231
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I honestly don't know if that makes the situation better or worse....

05-16-2014, 07:29 PM	#232
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	It's a shame that the money got successfully laundered last week do he could say that now.

05-16-2014, 08:08 PM	#233
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	If only there was enough time to fix the mistake....

05-31-2014, 10:19 PM	#235
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I don't doubt it for a second. Report: Qatar Bought World Cup With Over $5 Million In Secret Payments __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

05-31-2014, 10:30 PM	#238
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	The fact that it's still going to go ahead in Qatar is ridiculous at this point.

06-01-2014, 05:16 AM	#239
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	Bring it to the US. Infrastructure already in place. __________________ “I don’t like the Cubs,” Joey Votto said. “And I’m not going to pat anybody with a Cubs uniform on the back."

06-02-2014, 09:39 AM	#243
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Well, I guess Mitt Romney is free as well . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-09-2014, 01:15 PM	#245
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Sepp Blater says the corruption claims about the Qatar World Cup are motivated by racism: BBC Sport - Qatar 2022: Sepp Blatter says corruption claims are racist

06-09-2014, 02:22 PM	#246
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	That's totally fair. I'm happy to admit that I'm prejudiced against old Swiss guys named Sepp Blatter. It may not be very 21st-century, of me, but frankly I'm just glad I got that off my chest. Last edited by flere-imsaho : 06-09-2014 at 02:22 PM.

11-12-2014, 06:50 PM	#249
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Each time this thread is bumped, I put about a 0.01% chance on reading that the World Cup has been moved to another country. I know it's highly unlikely but it's still on the table SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

11-12-2014, 07:02 PM	#250
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	And FIFA takes the lead from the IOC as the most corrupt sporting body around!!!

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