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Final Four
First, the NIT results: Canisius beats St. Peter’s for the NIT Title. Now, the matchups: #2 Santa Clara vs. #3 Cal Poly #5 Texas vs. #1 Georgia State Two very interesting matchups here. First we have a California battle of very high seeds. Following that we have the #1 seed against maybe the hottest team in the country right now, Texas. In the first game, Cal Poly had SG Israel Kee. We saw him in the recruiting pool when he was #8 in the country as a high schooler back in 1931. He led the Cal Poly team with 23 points today. Santa Clara had an even bigger force though. SF Thomas Reber scored 28 for Santa Clara. They also had more depth with Chris Nieves scoring 16 and Mathew Ellis adding 15. Those guys were the difference and Santa Clara will be playing for the title after a 88-75 victory. In game 2, Texas came out and spread the ball around, getting 5 players into double figures and 11 players on the scoreboard overall. Texas was led by Senior PG James Shultz. He scored 16 points today. Georgia State didn’t go deep like Texas, but they went to 3 guys pretty much exclusively. Junior PF James Capagna led the team with 29 points. #4 recruit from 1931, Jon Howlett added 27 and #15 overall recruit in 1930, C Gil Boyd scored 24 points. A few contributions elsewhere gave the #1 seed the 103-95 victory and a date with Santa Clara in the Finals! Georgia State was the favorite tonight, but Santa Clara did a tremendous job shutting down the big three of Georgia State. Only C Gil Boyd managed to score in double figures. He had 12 with 11 rebounds. Not only did Santa Clara put the clamps down on defense, they were able to score as well. PG Chris Nieves led the team with 20 points and SG Doug Lydon had 17 to earn MVP honors of your 1934-1935 NCAA Champions, Santa Clara! The Final score was 73-54.
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01-23-2004, 10:04 PM
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01-24-2004, 01:50 PM
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Off Season Stuff
The High School All-Star game has been played and here are the results, with our top recruits noted by a * Code:
The East wins for 2 years in a row now. Season Awards Code:
Dennis was an outgoing senior. Alex Sims was the Freshman of the Year and was the #4 ranked recruit last year. The Recruiting Rankings have also been released Code:
Grambling may have pulled in the best recruiting class ever. They got the guys ranked #35, 22, 26, , 34, 9 and 958 (walkon). Amazing. This team should be primed to get another title in a year or two with this talent. Conference and Team Prestige has been updated as well. Here are the 5 rated conferences with key teams: Atlantic 10 (#6 St. Joseph’s, LaSalle, Fordham) Atlantic Sun (#2 Georgia State, #22 Jacksonville, Campbell) Big Sky (#4 Idaho State, #14 Eastern Washington, #19 Northern Arizona) Mid-Eastern Athletic (#16 Howard, #18 Norfolk State, #23 Delaware State, #25 Bethune-Cookman, Coppin State, Hampton) Missouri Valley (#5 Crieghton, #8 Wichita State, Drake, Illinois State) Sun Belt (#1 Arkansas State, #3 Denver, #9 Florida International) West Coast (#11 Santa Clara, San Francisco) And some of the top prestige teams in the country right now: Georgia State 69 Grambling 69 Howard 68 Santa Clara 66 Northern Arizona 63 Bethune-Cookman 62 LaSalle 61 Norfolk State 60 And the worst three teams prestige wise? Louisville 9 UTEP 9 Coastal Carolina 8
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01-24-2004, 02:04 PM
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1935-1936 Season
I love college hoops recruiting! We have fifteen 5 star recruits this year! 4 of them declared for the NBA draft including numbers 3, 4 and 5, along with #14. Only 4 of them have committed to schools over the summer months. #1 SG Ben Gillenwater, from Largo, FL, has committed to Howard. #2 SF Kelly Palm, from Durham, NC, has committed to LaSalle. #8 SG Ahmad Powell, from Columbia, SC, has committed to LaSalle. #10 PF Bryant Pickle, from Cincinnatus, NY, has committed to Norfolk State. And the others who have not decided upon a school: #6 C Joseph Brotherton, from Bellows Falls, VT: Bethune-Cookman, Georgia State, Norfolk State. #7 SG Dane Treadway, from Chico, TX: Bethune-Cookman, Howard #9 PF Kenneth Fields, from Thompson, OH: Santa Clara, LaSalle, Howard #11 SG Dwayne Osborn, from Zuni, NM: Howard, Bethune-Cookman, Northern Arizona #12 PF Tony Kang, from Hudson, NH: Georgia State, Norfolk State, Howard, LaSalle, Bethune-Cookman #13 SF Arthur Herrington, from Rochester, NY: Howard, Georgia State, LaSalle, Bethune-Cookman. #15 SF Lee Chrisman, from Pine Bluff, AR: Howard, Georgia State, LaSalle. Interesting to see that just a handful of teams are now separating themselves from the pack in terms of recruiting the top guys this year. I suspect some second tier teams will move in on some of these guys over the next month or two, but right now there is a stranglehold on the top talent in the high schools. The Preseason Polls have been released: Code:
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01-24-2004, 02:04 PM
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01-24-2004, 02:06 PM
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01-24-2004, 02:23 PM
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Mid Season Report
Recruiting update: We have 2 more recruits sign on with teams: #9 PF Kenneth Fields committed to Norfolk State. #13 SF Arthur Herrington committed to LaSalle. Here are the guys still undecided: #6 C Joseph Brotherton: Bethune-Cookman, Norfolk State #7 SG Dane Treadway: Bethune-Cookman, Norfolk State, Santa Clara #11 SG Dwayne Osborn: Bethune-Cookman, Santa Clara, Norfolk State #12 PF Tony Kang: Norfolk State, Santa Clara #15 SF Lee Chrisman: Bethune-Cookman, Norfolk State, Santa Clara, LaSalle, Georgia State That is 5 teams all competing for 5 recruits. Not much variation. I wonder if we are going to see just a handful of teams break away from everyone else in the next few year? Polls: Code:
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01-24-2004, 02:23 PM
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Jeeber - I guess that means UTEP has high hopes every year and a ton of potential on paper, and then when it gets to the hardwood, they bellyflop.
Maybe a new coach is in order. 
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01-24-2004, 02:30 PM
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Looks like it's time for them to hire the virtual equivalent of Don Haskins. He'll turn the program around...
At least NMSU isn't doing well anymore. It was killing me seeing those bastards ranked.
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01-24-2004, 02:44 PM
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End of Season Report
First we check out the recruiting. #6 C Joseph Brotherton signed with Norfolk State. #11 SG Dwayne Osborn signed with Bethune-Cookman. #12 PF Tony Kang signed with Santa Clara. Two remaining undecided guys: #7 SG Dane Treadway: Bethune-Cookman, Evansville, North Texas #15 SF Lee Chrisman: Mercer, Bradley, Arkansas State, Coppin State Final Top 25 Polls Code:
Leading players in key stat categories: Points per game Code:
Nieves is a senior who was a standout in the tournament for the Champion Santa Clara team last year. Clark is a junior and was a 3 star recruit in 1932. Rebounds per game Code:
Jason Child is a Junior and was the #25 ranked recruit in 1932. Warrington is a Senior and was ranked #69 back in 1931. He was a big part of those 2 champion Grambling squads and would love to graduate with 1 more. Assists per game Code:
Varner is a senior and was a 1 star recruit in 1933 as a JUCO transfer. He has started all but 2 games in 2 years with Sac. State and has averaged 5.2 assists and 4.7 points per game in his career. The brackets are out and here are the top seeds and notables in each region: West 1 Cal State Northridge 2 Florida International 3 Northern Arizona 4 Santa Clara 5 Washington 9 Bethune-Cookman 7 LaSalle Loaded! MidWest 1 Canisius 2 Georgetown 3 IUPUI 4 Idaho State 8 Drake 9 Texas 13 UMKC 5 Cal State Fullerton 14 Denver 6 San Francisco 11 Creighton Not top heavy, but very deep. South 1 Grambling 2 Fordham 3 Campbell 4 holy Cross 12 Georgia State 6 Arkansas State This is Grambling’s for the taking. East 1 Duquesne 2 Brown 3 Alcorn State 4 Delaware State 15 Boston University 7 St. Joseph’s This is the weakest Region, by far.
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01-24-2004, 02:45 PM
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For Jeeber-
UTEP: 6-12 (9th out of 10 teams) 9-20 overall.
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01-24-2004, 02:54 PM
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First Round Highlights:
No problems for all of the 1 seeds…they all advance into round 2. In the West Region, we saw the #2 seed, Florida International take a dive to #15 Fresno State. In the East, the 3 seed, Alcorn State was upset by #14 Penn State. So far, the top seeds have done good, but when we get to the 4 seeds, it was a disaster of a first round for them. Only #4 Santa Clara in the West survived the first round. Idaho State was taken down by UMKC, St. Mary’s beat Holy Cross and Clemson beat Delaware State. Elsewhere, #8 Southern Utah beat Bethune-Cookman. #5 Washington survived. #7 LaSalle moved on. #9 Texas beat #8 Drake. #6 San Francisco moved on. #6 Arkansas State survived. #10 Villanova upset #7 St. Joseph’s and #6 Florida moved on. Round Two Highlights The second round was not kind to our #1 seeds. We lost 2 of them. Southern Utah upset Cal State Northridge in the West Region and Texas pulls off another tournament upset by knocking out #1 Canisius. Grambling and Duquesne survived into the Sweet Sixteen. It was even rougher for the 2 seeds. Only #2 Fordham is left from the four of them. In this round, Villanova beat #2 Brown in the East and St. Louis beat #2 Georgetown in the Midwest region. Same deal for the 3 seeds. Only Northern Arizona made it into the Sweet Sixteen. San Francisco beat IUPUI and Arkansas State beat Campbell. The only 4 seed to enter this round was Santa Clara and they survived. #7 LaSalle advanced into the Sweet Sixteen. UMKC is also there.
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01-24-2004, 02:59 PM
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Sweet Sixteen Highlights
Our two remaining #1 seeds both advanced, Grambling over South Carolina State and Duquesne over Evansville. Duquesne will play the #10 seed, Villanova, who beat #6 Florida. Grambling will face #2 Fordham who got by #6 Arkansas State. That game should be a classic! In the Midwest, all that recruiting talent for UMKC has finally led to an Elite Eight appearance. They beat Texas and will face #10 St. Louis. In the West, #8 Southern Utah beat the defending champions, Santa Clara. Northern Arizona is one step closer to another Final Four as they beat LaSalle. Elite Eight Starting off in the West, the higher seed prevailed. #3 Northern Arizona took care of Southern Utah 54-53! In the Midwest, the slipper fits as #13 UMKC has advanced to the final four by beating St. Louis, 81-65. Grambling crushed Fordham, 86-56 to advance to their third Final Four! Finally, in the East, the #1 seed Duquesne was beaten by Big East team Villanova, 75-70.
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01-24-2004, 03:00 PM
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Ugh. If only we had got Tony Watson. Things might have been different then...
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01-24-2004, 03:08 PM
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Early Departures
Pos Name Team Class -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SG Richard Sargent Duquesne Junior C Tyree Duncan Michigan State Junior PF Jason Child Columbia Junior PG Alton Nash Oklahoma Junior C Brian Eden Sacramento State Sophomore C Anthony Collins Northern Iowa Junior PG Riley Nunley Arkansas State Junior PF Nicolas Pifer Yale Junior C Jeffrey Nolan Saint Mary's Junior PG Merle Grigsby Pennsylvania Junior C Daniel Arzola Saint Joseph's Junior C Bill Gleeson Syracuse Sophomore C Adalberto Ramos Delaware State Junior C Reid Spurling Wisconsin-Green Bay Junior PG Chris Whited South Carolina State Sophomore SF Lionel Johnson Jackson State Freshman PG Trevor Garrow High School C Blaine Kessler High School PG Kraig Benton High School PG Travis Homes High School
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01-24-2004, 03:11 PM
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Final Four
For all those NIT freaks: Colorado State beat St. Bonaventure The matchups: #2 Northern Arizona vs. #1 Grambling #13 UMKC vs. #10 Villanova Should we just crown the game 1 winner as the champions? Of course not, but my money is on the winner of that first game! Starting in the second game….Villanova relied on their top 6 players, and 4 of them scored in double figures, led by PG Damian Day, the #249 ranked recruit in 1931. He scored 17 points and had 8 assists. Villanova’s defense locked down on the main guys for UMKC and not one of their top 9 players were able to score more than 9 points. But UMKC runs deep, 12 deep to be exact. The 10th and 11th players off the bench scored 14 and 10 points respectively. That is quality depth. And that depth led UMKC to the win, 73-63, and a shot at the National Title! Now to the one we have all been waiting for. Well, we thought this would be a heavy weight battle, but it turned out to be a mismatch of great proportions. Grambling went to PG Brian Holmes, a junior and ranked #42 overall in 1932, and SF Lynn Jones, another Junior, ranked #72 overall in 1932. They both scored 18 points to lead Grambling to a blowout victory, 73-51. Grambling will have a shot at their 3rd title! Does UMKC even have a shot here? Not really, although they played tough. SG Aurelien Wastele led the team with 18 points. Aurelien is a true freshman and was ranked #43 overall last year. UMKC had nobody else step up in this game though. On the other hand, Lynn Jones came up big again for Grambling with 24 points, and C Devin Warrington grabbed 22 rebounds in the game to lead Grambling to a 68-58 victory and NCAA Title #3!!!!
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01-24-2004, 03:11 PM
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NCAA Tournament Champions
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Grambling 3 Idaho 1 Northern Arizona 1 Santa Clara 1 Final Four Teams Code:
Grambling 3 Georgia State 2 Washington 2 Northern Arizona 2 Idaho 1 Prairie View A&M 1 Howard 1 Seton Hall 1 Central Michigan 1 Boston University 1 Akron 1 LaSalle 1 Cal State Northridge 1 Arizona 1 Texas 1 Santa Clara 1 Cal Poly 1 UMKC 1 Villanova 1
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01-24-2004, 03:32 PM
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Off Season Actions
First a look at the High School All-Star Game Code:
And the Season Awards Code:
Nieves leaves with a Title and a Player of the Year Award. That is a complete Collegiate Career. Edwards was the #5 rated recruit last season. Recruiting Class Rankings Code:
LaSalle had 3 recruits this year: #8, #13 and #40. Bethune-Cookman landed the following recruits: #11, 17, 35, 15 Your top rated conferences: Atlantic 10 (#2 Duquesne, #9 St. Josephs, #13 Fordham, #20 LaSalle) Big Sky (#7 Northern Arizona, #11 Idaho State) Ivy (#5 Brown, Cornell) Mid-Continent (#14 IUPUI, #25 Southern Utah, UMKC, Chicago State) Mountain West (Colorado State) Southwestern Athletic (#4 Grambling, #12 Alcorn State, Prairie View) West Coast (#19 Santa Clara) And top ranked teams: Grambling 78 Santa Clara 73 Northern Arizona 69 Georgia State 68 Howard 67 LaSalle 66 Bethune-Cookman 65 Southern Utah 65 Arkansas State 64 St. Josephs 64 Others: Washington 61 Duquesne 60 Denver 59 UMKC 56 Villanova 55 Canisius 53 IUPUI 50 Coastal Carolina 9 Western Carolina 9 Ball State 8 UNC Greensboro 7 UTEP 6 Coaching Movement: UMass offered Bethune-Cookman’s coach a huge contract and signed him away! B-C hired away Florida’s head coach to replace him. Florida made a run to the Sweet Sixteen last year, so they get a quality replacement. The Canisius coach left for more money and the head job at Wichita State. Canisius didn’t do too bad and hired Texas’s top man as the replacement. Texas went with the top assistant from Norfolk State. Fordham’s coach retired and they replaced him with the top man from Jacksonville. UNLV gave the big bucks to Georgia State’ head man and they got him! Georgia State took Campbell’s head coach as their replacement. UTEP fired their coach and hired an assistant from Howard. Adam Myers has been an assistant on 4 consecutive NIT teams.
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01-24-2004, 03:41 PM
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Lordy, lordy. I hope that Myers is a good coach. Something needs to be done to turn the team around.
Oh, and thanks for including the UTEP info. I appreciate it...
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01-24-2004, 03:42 PM
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1936-1937 Season
We only have 6 top ranked recruits this season, and #1 overall has declared for the NBA draft. Two others have decided which school they will play for already: #2 PF Stephen Velasco, from Bel Air, MD, has committed to Santa Clara. #6 SF Andrew Chandler, from Danville, PA, has committed to Duquesne. The others: #3 SG Vassily Chubarov, from Russia: Santa Clara, St. Joseph’s, Southern Utah, Grambling, St. Mary’s #4 SG John Matz, from St., Petersburg, FL: Santa Clara, Grambling #5 PG Rudy Day, from Fairmount, IN: Grambling, Santa Clara, St. Joseph’s, Duquesne PreSeason Polls Code:
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01-24-2004, 03:43 PM
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If anybody else has a favorite team they want covered a bit more I would be happy to (as long as I don't have 29 different crappy teams to cover
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01-24-2004, 03:54 PM
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Mid Season Report
One more recruit has signed on, and Santa Clara is loading it up! #3 SG Vassily Chubarov has committed to Santa Clara. The other two: #4 SG John Matz: St. joe’s, LaSalle, Duquesne, Southern Utah, Brown #5 PG Rudy Day: St. Joe’s, Brown, LaSalle, Southern Utah, Arkansas State Mid Season Rankings Code:
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01-24-2004, 03:55 PM
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Great dynasty report Marmel! This is a very interesting read I must say. I am interested in hearing about UMass if you get a chance to add some info. about the Minutemen in. Thanks, Dan
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01-24-2004, 05:17 PM
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End of Season Report
Our two hold out recruits still have not decided where to play ball, so there is no need to really go into it. End of season Polls Code:
Not a single surprise in the Top 10. UTEP: 4-14 (Last Place) 6-23 UMASS: 2-14 (Last Place) 7-23 Points Per Game Code:
West is a Junior who has declared for the NBA draft. He was just outside the Top 100 in the 1932 recruiting pool. Campbell was ranked #249 in the 1932 draft pool. Rebounds per game Code:
Leverett was not even on the radar in 1932, but has turned into a great rebounded as a Senior, the only season he was a starter. Gomez was just outside the Top 100 recruits in 1934 as a JUCO. He is now a Senior. Assists Per Game Code:
Romeo was a 4 star recruit in 1932 and ranked #24 overall. He is a Senior. Yi is also a senior and was ranked #136 in 1932. And of course the most exciting part of college hoops, The Brackets! West 1 Canisius 2 LaSalle 3 Illinois State 4 Denver 9 Cal State Northridge 13 Holy Cross 5 Wichita State 11 Southern Utah A deep bracket MidWest 1 Bethune Cookman 2 Northern Arizona 3 Drake 4 San Francisco 5 Prairie View 10 IUPUI 6 Cal Poly Pretty stacked. South 1 Grambling 2 Duquesne 3 Troy State 4 Florida 5 Georgia State 12 Santa Clara 15 UMKC 7 Colorado State 6 Howard The top of this bracket looks decent enough for Grambling to get through. The bottom is just brutal! Duquesne and Grambling in the Elite Eight would be awesome! East 1 Arkansas State 2 Delaware State 3 St. Bonaventure 4 Harvard 13 Campbell 7 Seton Hall 6 Washington Cupcake City.
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01-24-2004, 05:23 PM
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First Round Highlights
Not very eventful for the top seeds in the tournament in round 1. All four #1 and all four #2 seeds advanced pretty easily. Only one #3 seed was knocked out and that was Troy State in the South. Idaho took care of them. Only one #4 seed was knocked out as well, #13 Eastern Michigan beat San Francisco. Not really a whole lot to say here. We’ll see which of these top teams get knocked out next, and which are good enough to go on to the Round of 16. Second Round Highlights We have our first #1 seed fatality of the tournament. Bethune-Cookman was upset by #9 San Diego State. All of the other #1 seeds are into the next round. All four #2 seeds advanced to the Sweet 16. #3 St. Bonaventure is the second 3 seed to fall out. #11 Stony Brook knocked them out. We lost another 4 seed as well when Southern Illinois knocked out #4 Harvard. Other notable to advance: #13 Eastern Michigan, #14 Idaho, #5 Southern Illinois
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Sweet Sixteen Highlights
The headline in this round is that we will have a new champion this year. Florida, under new head coach Robert Matteson, knocked off the defending champions, Grambling, 81-67! Canisius and Arkansas State survived to the Elite Eight. In the West, #1 Canisius will face #2 LaSalle after they beat #3 Illinois State. In the Midwest, Cinderella team, #13 Eastern Michigan moves on to the Elite Eight to face off against #2 Northern Arizona. In the South, #4 Florida will face #2 Duquesne. Duquesne beat the highest remaining seed, #14 Idaho. Finally, in the East, #1 Arkansas State advanced to face #11 Stony Brook, who pulled off the huge upset of #2 Delaware State, 89-73. Elite Eight No surprises in this round of play at all. All of the higher seeds won: #1 Canisius, #1 Arkansas State, #2 Duquesne and #2 Northern Arizona.
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Final Four
First, in the the Give me bad basketball category: Northeastern beats Fordham for the NIT title. Now, the matchups: #1 Canisius vs. #2 Duquesne #1 Arkansas State vs. #2 Northern Arizona Two incredible games here as we have the most competitive Final Four in NCAA history! My money is on both of the #2 seeds actually. Here we go with game 1.… This first game was in doubt until after the final buzzer. It took the referees about 5 minutes to determine if the last shot by Duquesne was before or after the buzzer. The two teams had terrific Power Forwards go after each other all night long. 1932’s #202 prospect, Gennady Ilgauskas for Duquesne put up 24 points tonight. He was matched by Canisius’ PF Dennis Mercerwho was a little recruited 2 star guy in 1932. He also put up 24 points. Oh yeah, that final shot by Duquesne was ruled after the buzzer and Canisius takes the 87-86 victory. Game 2 was almost as competitive. Northern Arizona was led by big man Stephen Stollings. Stollings is a Junior and was the #6 recruit in 1933. He scored 20 points and pulled in 14 rebounds tonight. He earned player of the game honors for that effort. Arkansas State countered with two weapons though. C Errol Swan, a #7 ranked recruit in 1932 and a senior, scored 18 points and SF Henry Porter a Junior ranked just outside the Top 100 in 1933 scored 12 and grabbed 11 boards to lead Arkansas State to a 70-64 victory! So the Finals will matchup two #1 seeds for the first time in NCAA history. Errol Swan came up big once again for Arkansas State. He scored 23 points and grabbed 5 boards tonight. Henry Porter also had a fine game, scoring 15 with 5 boards as well. That was just too much for Canisius to overcome as the defense really put the clamps down on them. Only Rodney Christianson was able to score more than 9 points and he only had 14. Arkansas State wins the NCAA Title this year, 64-54!
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NCAA Tournament Champions
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Grambling 3 Idaho 1 Northern Arizona 1 Santa Clara 1 Arkansas State 1 Final Four Teams Code:
Grambling 3 Northern Arizona 3 Georgia State 2 Washington 2 Idaho 1 Prairie View A&M 1 Howard 1 Seton Hall 1 Central Michigan 1 Boston University 1 Akron 1 LaSalle 1 Cal State Northridge 1 Arizona 1 Texas 1 Santa Clara 1 Cal Poly 1 UMKC 1 Villanova 1 Canisius 1 Arkansas State 1 Duquesne 1
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01-24-2004, 06:01 PM
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Off Season Recap
First, one thing I don’t like is that we never get to find out where those recruits went if they did not commit before proceeding to next season. I am not going to check every team to find out. Oh well, we’ll survive. Which leads me to this: Those other 2 recruits still have not committed to any team. Early Departures: Code:
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West is a Junior and he has declared for the NBA draft. Brotherton was the #5 ranked recruit last year. The Recruiting Rankings have been released: Code:
Duquesne pulled in quite the crop of freshman: #116, #214, #6, #245, #24 Santa Clara just had 2 recruits, which lowered their score, but they did get #3 and #12 overall! Top Conferences: Atlantic 10 (#5 LaSalle, #6 Duquesne, #13 St. Bonaventure, Fordham, St. Joseph’s) Big Sky (#8 Northern Arizona, #24 Eastern Washington) Ivy (#12 Harvard, Brown, Cornell) Mid-Eastern Athletic (#4 Bethune-Cookman, #14 Delaware State, #18 Howard, Norfolk State, Coppin State) Missouri Valley (#9 Drake, #15 Illinois State, #16 Wichita State, Crieghton) Mountain West (Colorado State, San Diego State) Sun Belt (#1 Arkansas State, #7 Denver, Florida Int’l) Top Teams: Grambling 79 Santa Clara 73 Arkansas State 72 Northern Arizona 70 LaSalle 67 Southern Utah 67 Bethune-Cookman 65 Brown 65 Duquesne 65 Georgia State 65 Umass 32 Kansas 6 UTEP 6 Ball State 5 Coaching Moves: Tim Grooms lost the Championship game with Canisius, and then bolted for the big bucks that Southern Utah was offering. Canisius got the American head coach who is known as a recruiting guru, but has never won an NCAA game as a head coach. Drake’s head coach retired and was replaced by Weber State’s Ken Moore, who took Seton Hall to the Final Four back in 1930. After a couple good NCAA runs, Florida’s Robert Matteson took the head job at Iona. Florida promoted their assistant, Thomas Robb to the head spot. UMKC’s head coach retired and they replaced him with the former top man at Seton Hall. The Hall seems to be a stepping stone job for coaches these days. UTEP and Umass stayed put this year. But just who are their top men these days? Well, Umass has the right guy to lead them out of the basement. Tim Rayburn was the Bethune-Cookman head coach from 1930-1035 when he left for the Umass job. He took Bethune to 2 Final Eight appearances and has really built that program into a top contender. Can he do the same with Umass though? And UTEP? Well, Adam Myers is 75 years old and won’t be around much longer. As an assistant with 4 different teams he never made the NCAA tournament, but did make the NIT 4 times. Last year was his first as a head coach and he won 6 games. I think UTEP needs to take a shot at getting a coach with a proven track record next year.
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01-24-2004, 06:03 PM
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01-24-2004, 06:04 PM
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God damn that is ugly! Even in an alternate universe, UTEP basketball sucks ass.
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01-24-2004, 06:08 PM
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I know what schools a few of you guys life, so here is their histories:
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01-24-2004, 06:08 PM
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Nice to that UMass has a high profile coach.
Also interesting to see one of the top recruits from last season, Joseph Brotherson from Bellows Falls, Vermont was named Freshman of the year. Anyone from Vermont being a big time player like that is very rare so it's certainly cool to see for a Vermonter like me. |
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01-24-2004, 06:09 PM
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and my beloved Orangemen
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01-24-2004, 07:49 PM
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I figured I would post some interesting stuff next.....
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And here is a closer look at some of the top coaches: Code:
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01-24-2004, 07:52 PM
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01-24-2004, 07:53 PM
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01-24-2004, 10:23 PM
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Could you show the info on Penn State?
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01-25-2004, 01:00 AM
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How about the Iowa Hawkeyes?
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01-25-2004, 01:12 AM
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Iowa and Penn State are now added to my update list.
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Iowa just hired a new coach, and it will be his first head coaching position after being an assistant for a while. Code:
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01-25-2004, 01:13 AM
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01-25-2004, 03:42 PM
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Hey! UTEP basketball is on its way back up! Punk... And you're right. That's really, really ugly...
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UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO Last edited by JeeberD : 01-25-2004 at 03:42 PM. |
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01-25-2004, 04:10 PM
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1937-1938 Season
Training camps have wrapped up and we are ready to start another year of exciting NCAA college hoops! This year we have nine recruits ranked as 5 star players in High School. Two of them, #6 and #9 have declared for the NBA draft. The rest will be attending college, and 2 of them have already committed to schools: #3 SF Sidney Gupta, from Huntsville, AL, has committed to Arkansas State. #4 SG Winfried Reed, from Winterberg, Germany, has committed to Harvard. The rest are still undecided. #1 C Reggie Thornton, from Richland, WA: Northern Arizona, Santa Clara, Grambling, Howard, Arkansas State #2 SF Timothy Devito, from Lorain, OH: Delaware State, Howard, Grambling, Drake #5 PF Rodolphe Trentesols, from Blois, France: Bethune-Cookman, Santa Clara, Grambling, Howard #7 PF Cliff Harrelson, from Fresno, CA: Northern Arizona, Bethune-Cookman, Santa Clara, San Francisco, Howard #8 SF Elwood Macomber, from Warsaw, IN: Grambling, Santa Clara, Howard, Harvard Pre Season Polls: Code:
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01-25-2004, 04:23 PM
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Mid Season Report
All but one of our top recruits have chosen a school and given them a commitment. #1 C Reggie Thornton has committed to Northern Arizona. #2 SF Timothy Devito has committed to Delaware State. #7 PF Cliff Harrelson has committed to Northern Arizona. #8 Elwood Macomber has committed to Arkansas State. The only remaining holdout is: #5 Rodolphe Trentesols: Bethune-Cookman, Santa Clara, Howard, Northern Arizona, Drake Mid Season Polls Code:
Umass 2-0, 6-6 Penn State 4-0, 12-1 Iowa 2-2, 7-7 UTEP 3-3, 4-12
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01-25-2004, 04:47 PM
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End of Regular Season Report
Our final recruit has settled on a school: #5 PF Rodolphe Trentesols has committed to Bethune-Cookman. Final Top 25 Code:
Umass went 5-11 in league play to finish last and 10-18 overall. Penn State went 11-5 in the Big Ten to take the regular season title. They went 21-9 overall. Iowa went 6-10 in league play to finish 9th and went 13-16 overall. UTEP went 8-10 in league play to finish 8th and went 9-20 overall. Season Stats Points per game Code:
Crippen is a Junior and was ranked #174 in the 1934 recruiting pool. He is returning for his Senior year. Buxton is a Senior and was ranked just #353 back in 1933. Rebounds per game Code:
Cobb is a Senior and was a great prospect back in 1933. He was ranked #31 overall. Pratt is also a Senior and was ranked #51. Brotherton is just a Sophomore and was ranked #6 overall in 1935. He will return for at least 1 more year. Assists per game Code:
Davis is a Junior and barely registered on the recruiting radar. He was a 1 star recruit ranked #679 back in 1934. Laliberte is a senior and was ranked #141 in 1935 as a JUCO. Early Departures Code:
And of course, The Brackets! West 1 Northern Arizona 2 Grambling 3 New Mexico State 4 Harvard 16 Colorado State 9 Southern Utah 5 Cal State Fullerton A #1 vs. #2 matchup in the bracket would be terrific to see! Midwest 1 Drake 2 LaSalle 3 Sacremento State 4 Prairie View 9 Denver 5 Cal Poly 15 Delaware State 11 Cal State Northridge Some dangerous seeds that can pull off the upset here. South 1 Bethune-Cookman 2 Florida International 3 Florida 4 Canisius 5 IUPUI 12 Idaho 10 Texas 11 Norfolk State Same deal here. Not strong at the top, but some dangerous seeds to watch for upsets. East 1 Arkansas State 2 Howard 3 San Francisco 4 Georgetown 10 Georgia State 6 Fordham Looks like an easy road for Arkansas State to return to the Final Four and defend their title.
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01-25-2004, 04:48 PM
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Santa Clara 16-14, RPI 73 UMKC 15-15, RPI 84 Penn State 21-9, RPI 85
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01-25-2004, 04:54 PM
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Round One highlights
No problems in the first round for the #1 seeds, they all advanced. In a great 2/15 game, Delaware State upset #2 seed LaSalle (who are becoming serious tournament underachievers). The other 2 seeds all advanced. All of the 3 seeds advanced and only one of the 4 seeds took a first round dive. #13 Texas A&M-Corpus Christi upset #4 Prairie View. Other notable teams to advance: #9 Southern Utah, #7 St. Louis, #9 Denver, #12 Idaho, #7 southern Illinois, #11 Norfolk State, #10 Georgia State Round Two Highlights We lost one of our top seeds in the second round. #8 Troy State upset top seeded Bethune-Cookman in the South Region. Arkansas State, Drake and Northern Arizona all advanced to the Sweet Sixteen. Our three remaining 2 seeds also advanced: Howard, Florida Int’l and Grambling All four of our 3 seeds also advanced. The 3 remaining 4 seeds going into this round also advanced. Not many upsets here other than the #1 seed going down.
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01-25-2004, 05:01 PM
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Sweet Sixteen Highlights
In the West Region we got the match up that the nation was dying to see. #1 Northern Arizona beat #9 southern Utah to setup a game with the #2 seed, Grambling, who took care of #3 New Mexico State. In the Midwest, #1 Drake advanced and they will face #3 Sacramento State, who defeated #15 Delaware State. In the South, where our top seed already fell, #4 Canisius advanced with a win over #8 Troy State. They will face #3 Florida, who got by #2 Florida Int’l, in a bitter in state rivalry game. Finally, in the East, Arkansas State continues to march to the Final Four by taking care of Georgetown. They will meet #3 San Francisco in the next round. Elite Eight Highlights In the West, Northern Arizona held off a tough Grambling squad, 79-73 to advance to the Final Four. In the Midwest, the 1 seed did not take care of business. Drake lost to #3 Sacramento State. In the South, the #4 seed Canisius secured their second straight trip to the Final Four by beating #3 Florida. And in the East, the heavy favorite and defending champion Arkansas State team couldn’t dodge a bullet from the Dons of San Francisco. The Dons win 80-67 and are headed to the Final Four.
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01-25-2004, 05:10 PM
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Final Four
First, the NIT results: Hampton beats Seton Hall for the NIT title. The match ups: #1 Northern Arizona vs. #4 Canisius #3 Sacramento State vs. #3 San Francisco Game one has a couple Final Four veteran teams in it. In fact, both of them were here last year. The second game is a couple of California teams making their first appearances. In the first game, the best player on the floor, by far, was Canisius’ C Dennis Mercer. Mercer is a Senior and was not much of a prospect during recruiting. He was just a 2 star guy ranked #464. Tonight he played terrific and scored 24 points and grabbed 7 boards and was named the game MVP. Northern Arizona could not matchup with him, but they had a few legit scoring options to match him. SG Jamey Robinson, a senior and ranked #13 overall in 1933 scored 19 points. SF Don Schiller, another Senior and ranked #224 in 1932 scored 13. Yet another Senior, C Stephen Stollings, ranked #6 overall in 1933 scored 12 points and PF Wilton Atkinson, yet another highly touted Senior, ranked #24 overall in 1935pulled in 15 boards. All that was too much for Canisius and Northern Arizona will play for the title with a 76-64 victory. Game 2 cam right down to the wire, and a final second shot by Sacramento State’s SG Kelley McAdoo, just a sophomore (ranked #109 in 1935) clinched the game. McAddo finished with 16 points to lead the team. PG Rico Parker and PF Eligio Cruz each scored 12 for the team. For San Francisco, C Stephen Edwards played a great game. He is a junior and has declared for the draft. He was the #5 overall recruit in 1934 and scored a game high 19 points. The finals turned out to be a total mismatch. Northern Arizona’s team is just filled with experienced and highly touted Seniors. They were just way too much for the young Sacramento squad. PG Rico Parker was their leading scorer with just 11. Northern Arizona relied on SG Jamey Robinson with 19 points and C Stephen Stollings with 18 points and 12 rebounds. The final score was 75-54 and Northern Arizona takes home their second NCAA title!
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01-25-2004, 05:12 PM
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NCAA Tournament Champions
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Grambling 3 Northern Arizona 2 Idaho 1 Santa Clara 1 Arkansas State 1 Final Four Teams Code:
Grambling 3 Georgia State 2 Washington 2 Canisius 2 Idaho 1 Prairie View A&M 1 Howard 1 Seton Hall 1 Central Michigan 1 Boston University 1 Akron 1 LaSalle 1 Cal State Northridge 1 Arizona 1 Texas 1 Santa Clara 1 Cal Poly 1 UMKC 1 Villanova 1 Arkansas State 1 Duquesne 1 San Francisco 1 Sacramento State 1
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