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#2051 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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You definitely can't crown a guy as the next elite QB after a rookie season. The league often catches up with them, and of course QB's that use their legs as much as Jayden is one major injury away from trouble. But everything I see of him makes me think he is him.
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#2052 | |
Solecismic Software
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Canton, OH
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I felt that way about Russell Wilson. The one issue, and I've said this before, he runs a lot and he doesn't protect himself well. He's going to get banged up. Lions fans are going to get brutal about Goff after that game. Could be a good trade opportunity for one of the many, many teams that would be delighted to have him. |
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#2053 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I don't think they can trade him with that massive extension he got. They'd be eating so much dead cap.
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#2054 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Maryland
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I’m not saying this will happen with Daniels, but as an Eagles fan I feared WAS had the real thing after RG3’s rookie year, and that didn’t work out that way.
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#2055 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Ben Johnson, come on down to Vegas and 20 million dolars a year.
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#2056 |
General Manager
Join Date: Dec 2009
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I wonder if this is just the thing that could beat the chiefs....an unknown rookie who will surprise them at every turn
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#2057 |
General Manager
Join Date: Dec 2009
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also how did the lions fucking lose again? Was it their defense?
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#2058 |
Favored Bitch #1
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: homeless in NJ
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#2059 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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I saw as little as the 19-minute highlight from yesterday's game and Daniels' head first dive to get a first down gave me flashbacks to Griffin III and his lack of protection of his head and body. If there's one franchise that should have learned what to teach their scrambling QB, it's Washington.
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#2060 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Big Ten Country
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#2061 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Big Ten Country
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It's weird how your first sentence sounds so much like my first 40 years of being a Lions fan, and so different from the last two. It sucks, but it's expected with all the injuries. Getting this far considering that has been amazing. And it feels like we have just as good of a shot next year. I don't know the details of who we lose and really even who's good, but my guess is we don't lose much. |
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#2062 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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The lions were the team I really wanted to win. I guess now I root hard for the bills.
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#2063 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Jul 2001
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I think the biggest potential losses are Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn. Losing both could set the team back a bit as new guys who have been learning under them are put into new roles. |
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#2064 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Big Ten Country
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Agree. I could see them staying, that would be nice.
Also, watching this game makes me really wish the Lions had an outdoor stadium. |
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#2065 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Jul 2001
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#2066 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Sirianni majorly big braining this one. Barkley averaging 6.8 a carry and passing out of shotgun in your own end zone on 2nd down with a QB who can’t move is utter insanity.
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#2067 |
College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2020
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We need more snow games.
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#2068 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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This is why I love outdoor football. This rules.
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#2069 |
College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2020
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I know it's in ATL, but I would love to see an NCAA Championship game in the snow.
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#2070 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2013
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So would you support the NFL moving the season to Winter vs the Fall?
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#2071 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The State of Insanity
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David Tyree 2.0 happened, nearly gave the Rams the game.
I have PTSD flashbacks
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#2072 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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All eyes were on Detroit to break their curse and it's going to be Buffalo instead.
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#2073 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Can you imagine how much it has to hurt to bang into Derek Henry in that cold?
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#2074 |
Solecismic Software
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Canton, OH
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I can't help thinking the two best teams in the NFL might go out early solely because of careless turnovers.
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#2075 | |
n00b
Join Date: May 2012
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Then they are not the two best teams. Note to Lions and their fans. Everyone starts the playoffs at 0-0. Absolutely nobody on the other team cares how many games they won in the Regular season. |
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#2076 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think Philly is more talented than Detroit with all the injuries the Lions have had on defense. It's sad we didn't get to see this Lions team with Hutchinson and some others. |
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#2077 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Ummmm...maybe not throw to Andrews?
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#2078 |
College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2020
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What a drop
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#2079 |
World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Three drops and a fumble. I mean, this game is going to haunt him for the rest of his life.
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#2080 |
College Starter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
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They're going to forcibly retire Mark Andrews after this 4th quarter
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#2081 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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Feel bad for Andrews. Just had his worst game ever at the wrong time.
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#2082 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA
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But at least Isiah Likely scored at the end there-woot Coastal
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#2083 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: In Absentia
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In today's NFL, only attempting three 2 point conversions before today seems absurdly low. And then they failed on both attempts. Seems like a situation they weren't game-tested to be successful at.
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#2084 |
College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Canada
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Any given Sunday. Most games are decided by a few plays and sometimes the "better" team just doesn't execute as well as they usually do, or the bounces or calls don't go their way. Ravens played awful and were a bad drop away from tying the game at the end. I think they were the "best" team in the AFC over the last third of the season, but failed to execute today. |
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#2085 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: In Absentia
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Looks like Ben Johnson to the Bears.
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#2086 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I am pleasantly surprised the Bears did the obvious and right move here.
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#2087 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Rumor is Dennis Allen coming along as DC.
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#2088 |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: May 2006
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Ben Johnson is almost guaranteed to be a disappointing HC in my opinion. That's not a knock on his work as OC. He just seems obviously to me to be in the mold of not having the skillset for the top job.
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#2089 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Jul 2001
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BJ was my top choice as he has the highest upside. Now that he chose the Bears id be happy with Pete Carroll or Liam Coen and Spytek as GM. Pete would at least bring competence and stability to a team that hasnt had it in over 20 years. I now root for Ben J to fail miserably
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#2090 |
Solecismic Software
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Canton, OH
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It's hard to make any conclusions in that vein. Easy to criticize the "retreads" as well, given that almost every experienced coach has had disappointing seasons.
We won't know the answer until he's dealt with those responsibilities for a while. Could be another Patricia, or maybe he's the next great leader. He has to build around Caleb Williams, which means the first thing he has to do is something he is qualified to do - evaluate what went wrong and what they need to do to fix it. |
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#2091 |
College Starter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
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His problem is going to be that he was able to do his cutesy offensive stuff because Bob Quinn, while mostly being an incompetent boob did start to create the top 5 offensive line that Holmes finished.
LT - Taylor Decker - Round 1, pick 16 (2016) RG - Graham Glasgow - Round 3, Pick 96 (2016) C - Frank Ragnow - Round 1, Pick 20 (2018) LG - Kevin Zietler - FA signing, but was replacing Jonah Jackson (Round 3, Pick 75 2020) who got PAID by LAR RT - Penei Sewell - Round 1, Pick 7 (2021) The Bears are starting more or less from scratch there and it can take some time to develop. |
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#2092 | |
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2004
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For whatever reason the Colts hired the Bengals defensive coordinator to be their new DC. This coming from a GM that has drafted 3 pro bowl players in 7 years. That is 3 players in 7 years that have ever been selected to a pro bowl team after all the injured guys are removed and Super Bowl team players are removed too. Ballard has to go.
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#2093 |
High School Varsity
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I feel exactly the same way and I'm not trying to be negative. The Bears seemed to do the smart thing this time around, so how does it come back and bite them in the ass? After all, the Bears are..well..the Bears.
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#2094 | |
Solecismic Software
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Canton, OH
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My wife grew up in the Chicago area, and we visit relatives every now and then. But this is something I wondered about even before we met. The biggest problem the Bears have to face is their own fan base. The same was true of the Boston Red Sox, until 2004. Bears fans hate the quarterback, hate the coach, expect 17-0 and nothing less. It takes a special type of player to stand up to that. I'm sure Caleb Williams has the skills to succeed in the NFL, but, especially after an increasingly difficult rookie season, I'm not sure he can withstand a fan base that's going to start riding him after their first loss next season. It's going to be especially tough after a season that saw everyone else in the division going to the playoffs and the Bears losing several games at the last second in almost comical fashion (Tyrique Stevenson's final act at Washington actually was enduringly comical). |
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#2095 |
High School Varsity
Join Date: Sep 2006
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While I agree the fan base is a tough one, it's not worse than places like NY or Philly (not that it's something to brag about). The problem is that all of Chicago sports teams have been bad lately (well, terrible actually), so the feeling of losing compounds itself if you're a sports fan. This is what worries me about Johnson as the HC -- does he have what it takes to work in this town given the fans need for some type of winning team? Expectations will be even higher than they were last year after they drafted Caleb.
And speaking of the QB, you might be right about him and the fan base. The jury is still out. His confidence borders on arrogance imo (and probably crosses that border), and for a guy who has designs on multiple Super Bowl trophies I haven't seen enough of the intangibles that make for winning SB quarterbacks. He's been so good at his position in all the previous levels he's played in that I don't think he was ready for the incompetence of the Bears' coaching and administration. He looked defeated by the end of the season, and I am not sure he is mentally tough enough to recover from the 2024 debacle. In true Bears fan fashion, I am lowering my expectations for next season even though the meatheads will be shouting "Super Bowl or bust" from the rooftops because Ben is now the HC. Poles is still there and he'll find a way to fk up the draft and make more terrible FA signings. The saying "Leopards don't change their spots" seems very appropriate in his case.
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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Lou is a paradox. On the one hand nobody has handled the three great QBs in the AFC better than Lou. His defense against Mahomes is especially good. On the other hand, even in the Super Bowl and AFC Championship years his defense wasn't ranked highly and he's had a lot of draft capitol that hasn't developed. On the d-line he has a first, second, and two thirds. In the secondary he has a first, two seconds, and a third. None of those picks is even an average starter at this point. I think he can still be an asset, but it was time for him to move on. There were too many signs that he wasn't going to get anything more out of this defense.
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#2097 | |
Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Big Ten Country
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What a weird comment. Why do you think the Lions or their fans felt anything different than that? |
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#2098 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: In Absentia
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Doesn't matter if it's peewee sports or the pros, it's not the best team that wins, it's the team that plays the best.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Chicagoland
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I grew up in New England, and I've lived in the Chicago area for 25 years now and I'm going to disagree. Chicago's a strong sports town, no doubt, but I don't feel the fans are as difficult/rabid as Boston, or that the situation is as challenging as the fan base + exposure of the New York market. I have less experience with Philly, but those fans just seem insane. I think people take some strong rivalry feelings (Bears vs. Packers, Sox vs. Cubs, etc...) and extrapolate that into Chicago being full of unreasonable fanbases. I don't see the evidence so much around me. Yes, Bears fans are routinely down on their franchise, including QBs & HCs, but not without justification, IMO. And it says something that the ownership of every major franchise runs the gamut from "offensively incompetent" to "downright evil". |
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Should be right at home in Indy then. They also look at two players in the draft and always choose the wrong one. Maybe he can do something with all the draft busts Indy has on defense but it sure doesn’t sound like it from what you just said.
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