2009 NCAA Tournament Thread - Page 7

Karlifornia · 03-19-2009, 08:36 PM

Gonzaga pulling away. That's my team, baby! (for this tournament)

Lathum · 03-19-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Akron and American really had shots to win, if they weren't playing FUCKING ROAD GAMES.

do you realize Portland is about 350 miles from Gonzaga?

panerd · 03-19-2009, 08:38 PM

Well Nova is our first gambling buzzer beater of the tournament. What an exciting ending that I of course ended up on the wrong side of.

Butter · 03-19-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

I think that's cutting it juuuust a bit too close. I mean, they couldn't get any shot off until just a few seconds before the buzzer. Plus, with no TO's, that would probably force it to be a Laettner miracle.

Stitt jogged it up the court though... drive to the basket and go for the 70% shot instead of the 20% one.

RainMaker · 03-19-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Well Nova is our first gambling buzzer beater of the tournament. What an exciting ending that I of course ended up on the wrong side of.

Me too. What a range of emotions. Go from literally giving up the bet and rooting for American to a meaningless uncontested layup costing me.

panerd · 03-19-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Me too. What a range of emotions. Go from literally giving up the bet and rooting for American to a meaningless uncontested layup costing me.

Yeah. I was hoping some back-up nobody would throw up a 3 at the buzzer for Nova to cover.

RedKingGold · 03-19-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Does that commercial where the guy smacks the guy next to him with a cake knife in the calf bother anyone else? I have to change it when I see it, that noise of it hitting the bone makes me cringe everytime.

No. You're just an incredible pussy.

RedKingGold · 03-19-2009, 08:48 PM

I wish I can redo my bracket and take Nova out of the Final Four. Although I'm a Wildcat homer, they've just become too careless with the ball and shooting jump shots to make any deep run. They'll be lucky to make the Sweet Sixteen as a protected seed.

Radii · 03-19-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Akron and American really had shots to win, if they weren't playing FUCKING ROAD GAMES.

What exactly would you recommend? Especially as Lathum pointed out, Gonzaga is playing 350 miles from their campus in another state. Hasn't a key reward of earning a high seed been that you get seeded in a favorable region?

Everyone loves to point out that UNC gets to play a lot of games in North Carolina, which is entirely true. Of course they usually have to earn a 1 or 2 seed to get that preference, and a hosting site has to exist in the state(of course, there are more available hosting sites in North Carolina for the south region than there are in georgia, virginia, tennessee, south carolina, alabama and mississippi combined. But anyway, Greensboro is 50 miles from Chapel hill and Durham. Should Duke and UNC be sent 850 miles away to Miami instead? What about Charlotte, that's 150 miles away from their campuses.

So is the rule same state? 100 miles? You can only go to the 2nd closest hosting site available to you?

So what's fair?

RainMaker · 03-19-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I wish I can redo my bracket and take Nova out of the Final Four. Although I'm a Wildcat homer, they've just become too careless with the ball and shooting jump shots to make any deep run. They'll be lucky to make the Sweet Sixteen as a protected seed.

I still think they're fine. They have a home game against VCU/UCLA which they should win. Duke or Texas is very beatable still.

One weird stat from the game. Villanova shot 29 free throws to American's 5. I know some of those FT came at the end of the game, but that's a huge gap.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:09 PM

ugh - early fouling by sanders is not good.

adubroff · 03-19-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I still think they're fine. They have a home game against VCU/UCLA which they should win. Duke or Texas is very beatable still.

One weird stat from the game. Villanova shot 29 free throws to American's 5. I know some of those FT came at the end of the game, but that's a huge gap.

Two FTs in first half....

10 of the 29 were in the last 1:30.

Nova went to the hole a ton more in the second half and that got them a bunch of free throws, they were in the penalty early.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:10 PM

And that's the press i'm talking about.

Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:12 PM

Wow, Sanders just got really lucky that wasn't his second

Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:13 PM

Di I just hear that right, Sanders had 40 blocked shots in a 3 game CAA tourny?

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:13 PM

Come on Rodriguez.

Damnit.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Di I just hear that right, Sanders had 40 blocked shots in a 3 game CAA tourny?

He had an amazing tourney, but he only had 11 blocked shots (7 in the championship game) according to cbs's stats.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:15 PM

Ah. I see 39 rebounds - maybe that's what it was?

Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

And that's the press i'm talking about.

yeah, UCLA's press does look good

sterlingice · 03-19-2009, 09:16 PM

Man, this is a slow, ugly game. Still, I think it's required watching here in Richmond tonight

SI

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

yeah, UCLA's press does look good

Er, what press? That's not a press producing the turnovers.

I guess you could call it a Half-Court Press, but it's really just aggressive man D in my opinion.

Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Ah. I see 39 rebounds - maybe that's what it was?

I swear I heard him say 40, thats why it caught my attention.

Is he an upperclassman? Maybe in CAA tournaments lifetime

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Man, this is a slow, ugly game. Still, I think it's required watching here in Richmond tonight

SI

Definitely

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Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Er, what press? That's not a press producing the turnovers.

I guess you could call it a Half-Court Press, but it's really just aggressive man D in my opinion.

I'm just fucking with you dude.

You're a CAA guy I go to a PAC 10 school...

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I swear I heard him say 40, thats why it caught my attention.

Is he an upperclassman? Maybe in CAA tournaments lifetime

He's a sophomore.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:20 PM

Dola: he had 95 total blocks last year and 88 this - i'm not sure what you heard

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He is a blocking machine.

RainMaker · 03-19-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

What exactly would you recommend? Especially as Lathum pointed out, Gonzaga is playing 350 miles from their campus in another state. Hasn't a key reward of earning a high seed been that you get seeded in a favorable region?

Everyone loves to point out that UNC gets to play a lot of games in North Carolina, which is entirely true. Of course they usually have to earn a 1 or 2 seed to get that preference, and a hosting site has to exist in the state(of course, there are more available hosting sites in North Carolina for the south region than there are in georgia, virginia, tennessee, south carolina, alabama and mississippi combined. But anyway, Greensboro is 50 miles from Chapel hill and Durham. Should Duke and UNC be sent 850 miles away to Miami instead? What about Charlotte, that's 150 miles away from their campuses.

So is the rule same state? 100 miles? You can only go to the 2nd closest hosting site available to you?

So what's fair?

I don't really have a problem with the Gonzaga game. That's a hefty distance and we can't send every team across the country.

The North Carolina thing is getting old, but I know why the NCAA does it. I guess I don't understand why a 3 seed like Villanova gets a home game, or an 8 seed like Ohio State. Siena really gets screwed in that one and I wonder if that would have happened if it was UCLA as the 9 seed.

I liked the old system that was essentially all neutral sites. I think the crowd dynamic is unique and it makes it fair for both sides. Leave the home games for the regular season, the tournament should be who has the better team that day, not who is playing at home.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:29 PM

OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Karlifornia · 03-19-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I don't really have a problem with the Gonzaga game. That's a hefty distance and we can't send every team across the country.

The North Carolina thing is getting old, but I know why the NCAA does it. I guess I don't understand why a 3 seed like Villanova gets a home game, or an 8 seed like Ohio State. Siena really gets screwed in that one and I wonder if that would have happened if it was UCLA as the 9 seed.

I liked the old system that was essentially all neutral sites. I think the crowd dynamic is unique and it makes it fair for both sides. Leave the home games for the regular season, the tournament should be who has the better team that day, not who is playing at home.

Neutral site games in the first two rounds where there is usually a clear underdog wouldn't be all that neutral at all, because the "neutral" crowd will always cheer for the underdog.

Karlifornia · 03-19-2009, 09:31 PM

Wow...Binghamton only down 7. I thought they were done.

mauchow · 03-19-2009, 09:32 PM

So far the Ill/WKU game has been bad.... really bad.

There has been one nice block so far and that's about it.

Oh and a three pointer was just made. Sweet. 7-4 almost five minutes in.

spleen1015 · 03-19-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

So far the Ill/WKU game has been bad.... really bad.

There has been one nice block so far and that's about it.

Oh and a three pointer was just made. Sweet. 7-4 almost five minutes in.

Looks like a game at the YMCA to me.

Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Looks like a game in the Big 10 to me.

fixed

RainMaker · 03-19-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Neutral site games in the first two rounds where there is usually a clear underdog wouldn't be all that neutral at all, because the "neutral" crowd will always cheer for the underdog.

So let teams play home games is the solution? Come on. Neutral site games are fairly neutral. The crowd doesn't usually turn till an underdog gives the fans good reason to believe their can be an upset. The bigger schools always have the larger contingent at the games and the advantage early.

Neutral sites are neutral. It's fair to both sides. Letting 8 seed Ohio State play a home game is a fuckin joke.

Radii · 03-19-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I liked the old system that was essentially all neutral sites. I think the crowd dynamic is unique and it makes it fair for both sides. Leave the home games for the regular season, the tournament should be who has the better team that day, not who is playing at home.

What neutral sites? You mean when if you were sent to the west region you played on all west sites that were pre-determined? So a team like Gonzaga, the highest seed in the tournament(along with UW) got rewarded and put in the west region, thus putting them at one of the western sites and changing absolutely nothing.

The sites in the east or the south still go to the top teams from those geographic areas. Perhaps the new pod system(and btw I'm not a fan of the new pod system, I liked it the way it was just fine) generates a few more games each year where one team is decidedly closer to home than other teams, but the higher seeds ending up with the games closer to their campuses is nothing new at all.

EDIT: You weren't the one mentioning the gonzaga game, just read that now(though I still like the point for those that were

)

mauchow · 03-19-2009, 09:40 PM

I've got all the games right so far but one, the Butler game. Two games which seem to be about 50/50 between everyone is the obvious two games tonight. I've got WKU and UCLA winning. I originally had Illinois until Frazier was officially out for the game.

So far a couple nice threes for WKU. We'll see if they can keep it up.

Karlifornia · 03-19-2009, 09:40 PM

How about lets just have empty gyms for tourney games?

Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:41 PM

the Larry Sanders show just took a commercial break

couldn't resist

DeToxRox · 03-19-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

How about lets just have empty gyms for tourney games?

Only after we move the World Series to a Neutral Site.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

the Larry Sanders show just took a commercial break

couldn't resist

I've been wondering how long it would take for someone to do it

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Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Only after we move the World Series to a Neutral Site.

I hear they are building a baseball stadium on the Jersey Shore

Lathum · 03-19-2009, 09:45 PM

Illinois better be carefull, from what I have seen of them they aren't a come from behind team

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:45 PM

Sweet, a good old V..... C...... U..... song.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:46 PM

These 3-pointers are going to be the death of VCU.

mauchow · 03-19-2009, 09:46 PM

These three pointers by WKU. Whoa. Backing up to shoot that three when he had a wide open layup.... and draining it to make it an 8 point game, then Illinois misses the wide open layup. Hah. Man.

At least the game is semi exciting now.

RainMaker · 03-19-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

What neutral sites? You mean when if you were sent to the west region you played on all west sites that were pre-determined? So a team like Gonzaga, the highest seed in the tournament(along with UW) got rewarded and put in the west region, thus putting them at one of the western sites and changing absolutely nothing.

The sites in the east or the south still go to the top teams from those geographic areas. Perhaps the new pod system(and btw I'm not a fan of the new pod system, I liked it the way it was just fine) generates a few more games each year where one team is decidedly closer to home than other teams, but the higher seeds ending up with the games closer to their campuses is nothing new at all.

EDIT: You weren't the one mentioning the gonzaga game, just read that now(though I still like the point for those that were

)

The old system was random though. Sometimes a team got a favorable spot but it wasn't predetermined. This system has the committee actively giving home games to certain teams.

The one great thing about the tournament was how completely fair it was. Everyone was treated the same. Now with the selection committee and questionable seeding, it's just added a little too much WWE for my liking.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:47 PM

Rodriguez is clearly outmanned in this game. Not good for VCU. Rozelle should be playing more.

wade moore · 03-19-2009, 09:48 PM

Time for me to crawl into my hole.

Radii · 03-19-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

The old system was random though. Sometimes a team got a favorable spot but it wasn't predetermined. This system has the committee actively giving home games to certain teams.

*nods*

gotcha. I'm perfectly cool with that. I do prefer the old system, though honestly I think its just more of a symmetry thing than anything. It doesn't feel right having teams in the "west region" playing their first two rounds on the east coast, etc.

sterlingice · 03-19-2009, 09:49 PM

VCU needs to tighten this up here and get back into the game

SI

03-19-2009, 08:36 PM	#301
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Gonzaga pulling away. That's my team, baby! (for this tournament) __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

03-19-2009, 09:16 PM	#320
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Man, this is a slow, ugly game. Still, I think it's required watching here in Richmond tonight SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-19-2009, 09:31 PM	#330
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Wow...Binghamton only down 7. I thought they were done. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

03-19-2009, 09:40 PM	#336
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I've got all the games right so far but one, the Butler game. Two games which seem to be about 50/50 between everyone is the obvious two games tonight. I've got WKU and UCLA winning. I originally had Illinois until Frazier was officially out for the game. So far a couple nice threes for WKU. We'll see if they can keep it up. Last edited by mauchow : 03-19-2009 at 09:44 PM.

03-19-2009, 09:40 PM	#337
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	How about lets just have empty gyms for tourney games? __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

03-19-2009, 08:38 PM	#303
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Well Nova is our first gambling buzzer beater of the tournament. What an exciting ending that I of course ended up on the wrong side of.

03-19-2009, 08:48 PM	#308
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	I wish I can redo my bracket and take Nova out of the Final Four. Although I'm a Wildcat homer, they've just become too careless with the ball and shooting jump shots to make any deep run. They'll be lucky to make the Sweet Sixteen as a protected seed.

03-19-2009, 09:12 PM	#314
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Wow, Sanders just got really lucky that wasn't his second

03-19-2009, 09:13 PM	#315
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Di I just hear that right, Sanders had 40 blocked shots in a 3 game CAA tourny?

03-19-2009, 09:32 PM	#331
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	So far the Ill/WKU game has been bad.... really bad. There has been one nice block so far and that's about it. Oh and a three pointer was just made. Sweet. 7-4 almost five minutes in.

03-19-2009, 09:41 PM	#338
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	the Larry Sanders show just took a commercial break couldn't resist

03-19-2009, 09:45 PM	#342
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Illinois better be carefull, from what I have seen of them they aren't a come from behind team

03-19-2009, 09:46 PM	#345
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	These three pointers by WKU. Whoa. Backing up to shoot that three when he had a wide open layup.... and draining it to make it an 8 point game, then Illinois misses the wide open layup. Hah. Man. At least the game is semi exciting now.

03-19-2009, 09:49 PM	#350
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	VCU needs to tighten this up here and get back into the game SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 03-19-2009 at 09:49 PM.

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