FOFC Draft--The Greatest Music Band (Draft Has Started)

[CrimsonFox]

and here I was arguing for your vision, your artistic license

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

2.7 les claypool, bassist ,90's

[Grover]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

2.7 les claypool, bassist ,90's

Great pick. Was my #1 choice at bass.

[Karlifornia]

Then Jerry Garcia could be said to be an 80s singer for that matter. That's when he had his only hit.

And I could say axl rose was a lead singer from the 21st century, and the voters would rightfully roast me

[CrimsonFox]

OKay then, I was under the impression that I was totally restricted before, so I want to do this:

1.3 Neil Peart, Drummer, 80s (Rush)
2.8 Robert Plant, Lead Singer, Rock (Led Zeppelin)

and Julio can have his 80s bassist then

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

And I could say axl rose was a lead singer from the 21st century, and the voters would rightfully roast me

I would think voters would roast you no matter where you put him

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by Grover

Great pick. Was my #1 choice at bass.

didn't think he be there. if 'jerry was a racecar driver' doesn't bring a smile to your face you're no friend of mine.

[CrimsonFox]

This kind changes my lists in a buncha funky ways, hmmm.

[Grover]

I'm cool with Fox and Julio changing their pick categories because of the rule clarification recently made by Rum.

No objections here.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

yeah. idc either. hey crimson, you're up

[CrimsonFox]

Thanks. I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything. (as natural as it comes to me) Just trying to prevent mistaken picks in what I thought was a restriction which could have screwed us all later.

[CrimsonFox]

I went, I picked Plant

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Grover

I'm cool with Fox and Julio changing their pick categories because of the rule clarification recently made by Rum.

No objections here.

and it also prevented me from pointing out that Page started with the Yardbirds in the 60s But I won't have to do that now hehe

I was on the fence between Page and Plant. THanks for making that easy for me.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I was on the fence between Page and Plant. THanks for making that easy for me.

To be fair, I was surprised Page fell to me there.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Grover

To be fair, I was surprised Page fell to me there.

me too. LOTSA golden age of rock stuff being chosen.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Thanks. I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything. (as natural as it comes to me) Just trying to prevent mistaken picks in what I thought was a restriction which could have screwed us all later.

That part was always just a suggestion for my thinking on it, not a rule. I even wrote it that way in the opening post. I think you took it a bit more literally than I intended, so my apologies for not being clearer.

No more changes to past picks, though, until I can review them. For now, I'll provisionally allow your changes to stand. I will almost certainly allow them to be permanent, but you cannot just make changes without consulting with me. There are other players here to consider.

If someone wants to make a category change based on my clarification, please PM me.

[Julio Riddols]

Ok, so I wouldn't mind swapping it back to 80's.

[Buccaneer]

No, you CANNOT go back and change your picks - that's been rule and intent of every draft. You are being a jerk, CF and thus I hope the voters vote accordingly. Hey Chief, how putting an astericks next to the changed picks?

Regarding voters, it has always been that way. A great person or song or whatever in a wrong category can help or hurt. For some it's the body of work, for others it's what you pick and where.

We are geting some separation, I believe. I think the bassists are going way too early. The labels are going just right. Drummers and bassists are dime a dozen, imo, (lots of good ones) but lead singers and guitarist in certain genres can be a home run, if grabbed early enough.

[CrimsonFox]

Is that serious?

[cartman]

Has Karl been notified he is up?

[CrimsonFox]

yes he has

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

We are geting some separation, I believe. I think the bassists are going way too early. The labels are going just right. Drummers and bassists are dime a dozen, imo, (lots of good ones) but lead singers and guitarist in certain genres can be a home run, if grabbed early enough.

This is making me look good.

[Karlifornia]

I'm thinking

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

you win this category too. damn!

I feel like I have some producer contenders in my back pocket...

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Grover

This is making me look good.

Yep.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

didn't think he be there. if 'jerry was a racecar driver' doesn't bring a smile to your face you're no friend of mine.

Don't just talk about it; embed it!

[Karlifornia]

2.9 Prince, guitarist, 1980s

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

2.9 Prince, guitarist, 1980s

Damn.

[britrock88]

This thought crossed my mind and I couldn't help but laugh: what does it take to have a label or cover song qualify as female?

[cartman]

2.10 - Keith Moon, drummer, rock

Possibly the greatest drummer of all-time. Pioneered the art of using a drum set to not just keep the beat, but as an instrument that could carry a song just as a lead guitar could. Here some some of his examples from his all-too-short time with The Who.

[Buccaneer]

That would have been my first pick for Drummer.

[cartman]

3.1 Willie Nelson - Songwriter, Country

The red-headed stranger's first hit was writing 'Crazy' for Patsy Cline in 1961. He started the 'Outlaw Country' music genre in the 70s with Waylon Jennings, Kris Kristofferson, Billy Joe Shaver. He wrote movie soundtracks, and continue to write and perform to this day.

[Grover]

Two things:

After watching the Primus video, I have a craving for nachos.

Moon and Nelson are both very solid picks. Moon is undoubtedly one of the top two or three drummers ever.

[Karlifornia]

3.2 Elton John, keys, 1970s

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

3.2 Elton John, keys, 1970s

Damn you.

[Chief Rum]

I am going to allow CF's adjustments and Julio's change (if Julio wishes to change it). But the only changes I will accept are on any picks prior to my clarification of the time period post, and in no way will the person/entity picked be allowed to change, or the main category. Only the sub-category and only if it involves a time-related sub-category. And you change it right after seeing this post, because I am not going to have those changes continue to be made back and forth as the draft goes on. Change it now, if that's what you want to do, and after this, that's it, that change is locked in.

CF, I presume you wil stick with Neal Peart (sp) for the 80s? And Julio, make your decision as soon as you can. Thanks.

[Julio Riddols]

80's it is.. Fixing now

[britrock88]

Still feeling pretty hopeful about filling in some of my weaker categories. Come on, third round! Don't let me down!

[Julio Riddols]

I'm wondering if putting together musicians I think would play well together will sit well with the judges.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I'm wondering if putting together musicians I think would play well together will sit well with the judges.

This is a strategy I'm loosely toying with.

[Buccaneer]

Given the scoring of previous drafts, I would easily say no. It's all about name recognition and getting the name in the right category. That's it, imo.

[Buccaneer]

And I would add not going Izulde on us by picking a bassist from an obscure local bar band and wondering why no one else has heard of him.

[Julio Riddols]

I don't know about local bands, but I think my last pick or two might be fairly obscure.. I guess I am filling in for Izulde in a way...

[Julio Riddols]

I'll support those obscure picks with compelling video, however.

[Julio Riddols]

Either that, or my other 8 picks will help make up for it.

[Grover]

I've got one or two picks that are certainly off the beaten path, but I think video evidence will champion their cause quite well.

Really looking forward to defending my selections after the draft.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

And I would add not going Izulde on us by picking a bassist from an obscure local bar band and wondering why no one else has heard of him.

I forget, it was Izulde that gave us the infamous Shia LeBeouf pick? lol

I do remember some really off the wall picks by Izulde from other drafts.

[Abe Sargent]

I was considering going with a joke team with Milli Vanilli as lead singer, Avril Lavigne as Songwriter and so forth.

[Julio Riddols]

Grover, sometimes I feel like we are the exact same person. It's kind of weird.

[Buccaneer]

I think we need a running update of the picks.