Survivor:Challenge/Common Thread (GAME OVER! FEED BACK WELCOME)

[path12]

Thoughts on SnDvls anyone?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by path12

Man it's quiet.

Like I said earlier, what is there to talk about?

I have no clue who could be a wolf and we have no way to know if people are swinging the vote, etc...

This is by no means a knock on what has so far been an awesome game, but I usually steer clear of games where the role isn't revealed on death because by the end it turns into to much of a guessing game.

[path12]

Dola, just to follow up on that I thought he was awfully defensive with Alan earlier about the list. More than would seem usual.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by path12

Thoughts on SnDvls anyone?

Seems awful late for a push don't it?

[path12]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Seems awful late for a push don't it?

Not really a push, I put out something around 7:30 eastern but nobody had an opinion on it I guess. Just trying to piece it together like everyone else....

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by path12

Thoughts on SnDvls anyone?

ya here's one....I'm good
don't vote me off

[Swaggs]

Should be an interesting vote.

I suspect it will be me and if so, fair enough. I am surprised I got as far as I did in this game, as I expected to be voted out much, much earlier, since I was in line to go home the night Blade did and then I got put in a Helsing Tribe with no one from my previous tribe.

It will be interesting to see if there will be a "sole survivor" or if the wolves win when/if they overwhelm.

[Abe Sargent]

Actuall, Swaggs, I expect it to be me.

[Barkeep49]

My apologies. I just got home. Let me count the votes.

[Barkeep49]

First vote

Swaggs

[Barkeep49]

Second vote

Swaggs

Two votes Swaggs

[Barkeep49]

Third vote

Anxiety

Two votes Swaggs, one vote Anxiety. Four votes needed to lynch.

[Barkeep49]

Fourth vote

Swaggs

Three votes Swaggs, one vote Anxiety.

[Barkeep49]

Fifth vote

Anxiety

That's three for Swaggs, two for Anxiety.

[Barkeep49]

Six vote

Anxiety

Three votes each for Anxiety and Swaggs. Next vote will be the lynching vote.

[Barkeep49]

And the first member of our jury is:

Swaggs

I'm sorry Swaggs, but the tribe has Spoken. Please bring me your post button.

I am about 65% done tabulating the results of the challenge.

[Lathum]

for the record I voted anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

That was very, very close. Damn BK for dragging it out!

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

And the first member of our jury is:

I'm sorry Swaggs, but the tribe has Spoken. Please bring me your post button.

I am about 65% done tabulating the results of the challenge.

You will never get my post button!

You can have jbmagic's edit button, though.

Good game, guys. Good luck.

[Alan T]

sigh. I think we just lost the game.

After tonight we'll be at either 3 wolves - 2 villagers or best case scenerio 2 wolves - 3 villagers.

All because you all didn't want to accept that barkeep had some ways in this game for us to gain information. Well, at this point I hope I win every challenge from here on out and force the wolves to vote each other off.

[path12]

I think three wolves seems high at this stage. I would believe two though.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by path12

I think three wolves seems high at this stage. I would believe two though.

that's my guess as well and I've stated as much
Alan is dead set on 3 though guess we'll see what happens tonight who is right

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

that's my guess as well and I've stated as much
Alan is dead set on 3 though guess we'll see what happens tonight who is right

What do you expect to happen tonight that magically gives us the number of wolves left?

The helsing and Lupus wolves are left for sure, and possibly either the convert or the howard wolf. Either way, I have a feeling the wolves will soon control the vote. I am guessing tonight's target will be kwhit for the kill.

[Lathum]

If path doesn't win immunity and isn't killed tonight he is a wolf.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Alan T

What do you expect to happen tonight that magically gives us the number of wolves left?

my guess is if there are 2 wolves we'll still be playing tomorrow as this is survivor after all.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

If path doesn't win immunity and isn't killed tonight he is a wolf.

I highly doubt that. Its either you or Kwhit they will be killing tonight I am pretty sure.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I highly doubt that. Its either you or Kwhit they will be killing tonight I am pretty sure.

why would they do that? By killing Path that leaves more confusion about who could be a wolf by leaving more choices

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why would they do that? By killing Path that leaves more confusion about who could be a wolf by leaving more choices

Well path is the only choice for a howard wolf. so removing him takes away one of the possibilities. Removing you or Kwhit doesn't remove the possibility of someone else being a convert.

[Barkeep49]

Just how well did our Survivors get into the minds of others? The answer, I think, is pretty well. Let’s look at what each of our Survivors submitted as answers:

Swaggs	Lathum	SnDvls	Alan	Kwhit	Path
FOFC -- football, Sky Dog, werewolf	FOFC- werewolf, skydog, post count	FOFC - community, forum, games	FOFC - Elitest, Football, postcount	FOFC - werewolf, trout, skydog	FOFC -- forum, community, dynasties
Front Office Football -- football, GM, draft	Front Office Football- college years, 2k7, fofc	Front Office Football - football text sim	Front Office Football - Football , simulation, game	Front Office Football - jim gindin, ihof, 2k7	Front Office Football -- game, sim, career
werewolf -- lynch, vote, duke	werewolf- lynch, seer, wolf	werewolf - game, harry, bad	werewolf - seer, bodyguard, vote	werewolf - seer, vote, attack	Werewolf -- lynch, vote, bluff
kill -- death, lynch(ed), goodbye	kill- wolf, werewolf, night action	kill - wolves, victory, death	kill - death, wolf, night	kill - bill, wolf, gun	Kill -- murder, lynch, wolf
challenge -- outwit, outplay, outlast	challenge- survivor, imunity, werewolf	challenge - reward, survivor, council	challenge - immunity, reward, win	challenge - survivor, immunity, reward	Challenge -- survivor, win, reward
idol -- safety, worship, wood	idol- Immunity, survivor, challenge	idol - immunity, small, necklace	idol - immunity, protection, statue	idol - american, immunity, survivor	Idol -- American, immunity, Billy
spring training -- Arizona, Florida, basebal	spring training -baseball, exibition, fantasy	spring training - baseball, cactus, grapefruit	spring training - baseball, pitchers, catche	spring training - baseball, pitchers, catcher	Spring Training -- baseball, cactus, grapefruit

Lots of good answers there, no doubt. Sorting the answers we get a raw data table of (in case someone wants to double check my math):

FOFC	FOF	Werewolf	Kill	Challenge	Idol	Spring Training
Community	2k7	Attack	Bill	Council	American	Arizona
Community	2k7	Bad	Death	Immunity	american	Baseball
Dynasties	Career	Bluff	Death	Immunity	Billy	Baseball
Elitiest	College years	Bodyguard	Death	Immunity	Challenge	Baseball
Football	Draft	Duke	Goodbye	Outlast	Immunity	Baseball
Football	Fofc	Game	Gun	Outplay	Immunity	Baseball
Forum	Football	Hairy	Lynch	Outwit	Immunity	Baseball
Forum	Football	Lynch	Lynch	Reward	Immunity	Cactus
Games	Football	Lynch	Murder	Reward	Immunity	Cactus
Post count	Game	Lynch	Night	Reward	Necklace	Catchers
Post count	Game	Seer	Night action	Reward	Protection	Catchers
Sky Dog	GM	Seer	Victory	Survivor	Safety	Exhibition
Sky Dog	Ihof	Seer	Werewolf	Survivor	Small	Fantasy
Sky Dog	Jim gindin	Vote	Wolf	Survivor	Statue	Florida
Trout	Simulation	Vote	Wolf	Survivor	Survivor	Grapefruit
Werewolf	Simulation	Vote	Wolf	Werewolf	Survivor	Grapefruit
Werewolf	Text sim	Vote	Wolf	Win	Wood	Pitchers
Werewolf		Wolf	Wolf	Win	Worship	Pitchers

This gave us a scoring table, which went right down to the wire and was really anyone’s game the whole way through:

	Swaggs	Lathum	SnDvls	Alan	Kwhit	Path
FOFC	8	7	5	5	7	5
FOF	5	4	5	7	4	5
Werewolf	8	5	3	8	8	8
Kill	6	8	9	10	7	8
Challenge	3	8	9	9	11	10
Idol	3	8	7	7	9	8
Spring training	8	8	10	10	10	10

Our final results were:
Swaggs – 41
Lathum – 48
SnDvls – 48
Path – 54
Alan – 56
KWhit – 56


Congrats to our two co-winners. Alan chose to PM with Swaggs and Lathum. KWhit did not submit to me his list in advance and thus will only be able to PM with 1 person as well. Once he has chosen that person I will let the group know. I hope the Survivors sleep well tonight.

Night Actions are due by 9, but I will accept a slightly late set of actions if the late posting made things hard on those who have night actions.

[Abe Sargent]

Ummmm.....where're my answers?

[SnDvls]

did anxiety not submit answers?

[Abe Sargent]

Looking at it, I wouldn;t a won anyway with my solecismic choice for both one and two.

[Abe Sargent]

Yeah, and my idol answers I remember had commandment and God in them. Yeah, no points here anyways.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Yeah, and my idol answers I remember had commandment and God in them. Yeah, no points here anyways.

WHen did you submit your answers? I have a vote, but no answers from you. I did a triple check of my inbox.

[Abe Sargent]

Hold out, let me check my sent box.

[Abe Sargent]

Well shit. Nevermind. I um....nevermind.



I feel sheepish.

[Alan T]

Barkeep, since I was already immune tonight from wolf attacks, does this mean I'm immune tonight and the next night?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Barkeep, since I was already immune tonight from wolf attacks, does this mean I'm immune tonight and the next night?

Yes.

[Alan T]

I'm able to PM with Lathum tonight (also Swaggs but since you all voted him off guess that no longer matters). Since I have two immunities for back to back nights and I highly doubt the game will go that long now unless I keep getting amazingly lucky with the reward challenges, I decided to do something crazy.

I passed one of my nights of immunity to Lathum for tonight. I hope we're down to only 2 wolves but i don't honestly see any real reason for Sndvls to tell the truth about that. Hoping this doesn't backfire like my sharing the list did today.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I'm able to PM with Lathum tonight (also Swaggs but since you all voted him off guess that no longer matters). Since I have two immunities for back to back nights and I highly doubt the game will go that long now unless I keep getting amazingly lucky with the reward challenges, I decided to do something crazy.

I passed one of my nights of immunity to Lathum for tonight. I hope we're down to only 2 wolves but i don't honestly see any real reason for Sndvls to tell the truth about that. Hoping this doesn't backfire like my sharing the list did today.

Just popped you an e-mail about a subject not related to this game, but whcih I hope you'll answer quickly since its about the next games for you and me.

[Abe Sargent]

Sorry, that shoul;d read sent you a PM

[Lathum]

Well Alan moves up my trust list for saving my life

[hoopsguy]

We are now down to six players, and with the wolf faction still lurking it is likely to be five players tomorrow. This likely means that we are headed towards the end game where the challenge ratchets up another notch.

We've spent the last two days gathering feedback from our audience and the results are clear - they are rooting for the wolves to rout the remaining villagers. We are really, really lucky to have introduced the wolves to this game because overall this is the least likeable bunch of contestants we have had on Survivor since the inception of the show. You would think people would root for "man" over "nature" but not this time around.

OK, pep talk is over. So, the question on my mind tonight - how many wolves do you think are left in the game at this point? And what are your reasons for believing said number?

[Alan T]

I had to take the ms. back to the hospital. I just drove home real quick to email in to work so they knew I wasn't going to be in today.

THere is a chance I won't be back before tonight I fear. Really bad time gamewise, Barkeep I'll drop you a pm

[Lathum]

ugh alan, I hope everything is ok.

[Lathum]

I think there are 2 wolves.

I know the helsing wolf is out there and I am pretyy sure the Lupus one is there with Anxiety and kwhit coming from the other tribe.

[Barkeep49]

Good morning Survivors. I'm sure you've all seen Lathum's mangled corpse by now. But it's good of his ghost to join the jury.

Today's challenge harks back to one of the first challenges. Your goal is to once again get the most points, but this time instead of bidding you will be ranking each of the 15 territories. Whoever ranks a territory the highest wins. If two people give a territory the same ranking they split the points. As a tie breaker whoever wins the most territories (with-out ties) will be the winner, followed by whoever has won territory A, then B, and so on. For the second tie breaker, if a person tied for that territory with someone other than the person for whom the tie breaker is comparing it will be considered a win.

The territories are:
A. Greater Werewolvia - 33
B. Middle Werewolvia - 14
C. Lesser Werewolvia - 20
D. Fleabit Cove - 11
E. Dogbonia - 10
F. Dog Ear - 12
G. Homidia - 15
H. Lupinia - 16
I. Garouvia - 25
J. North Canis - 17
K. Lake Wolfsbane - 18
L. South Canis - 29
M. Lower Fang - 23
N. Upper Fang -21
O. Alpovia - 13

Lists should be sent to me by 10 PM. You may only change your list once. Feel free to post any or all information, threats, bargains, etc here in the thread.

Survivors ready? Go!

[Lathum]

BOO!!

[Abe Sargent]

Huh. Guess someone didn't get immunity afterall.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I passed one of my nights of immunity to Lathum for tonight.

A bluff? Or a clever wolf trick? Probably just the first, but who knows in this game.