Mixed Martial Arts Thread (UFC and others)

[cartman]

Jiri Prochazka is a bad man. That spinning elbow to finish Dominic Reyes was brutal

[thesloppy]

Yeah, he looked good! There was some pretty good fights tonight.

[BYU 14]

Watched the Ruiz / Arreola fight instead and it was a very entertaining fight, but Arreola needs to think about hanging up the gloves. Still as tough as any HW Boxer in the world, but his deteriorating speed and reflexes showed as the fight wore on.

I would like to see Andy Ruiz against Dillian Whyte next.

[PilotMan]

Is anyone else following this Diego Sanchez/ UFC saga?

Was supposed to have a final fight against Cerrone, imo, both should have retired a couple years ago, at least. But the fight was canceled and Sanchez was cut from the company.

Then this comes out from Sanchez and it looks like our revolves around medical liability. Could Diego Sanchez be the first neuro battle that MMA will have to deal with? After 16 years, and his fighting style he would be a prime candidate.

Diego Sanchez: UFC overreacted to medical records request

[thesloppy]

Saw that video of his coach chasing fighters around the octagon with a knife, I dunno how he has anybody in his camp.

[molson]

Sanchez's manager was trying to bait UFC into creating liability for a lawsuit and the UFC smartly just called him on the bluff and cut him. The manager posted that recorded phone call with the UFC, I guess not realizing it makes him look bad.

You don't get to say, "UFC is risking my health by letting me fight" and then fight for them. Same as Mark Hunt.

[thesloppy]

UFC has been pretty nuts for the last month. Maybe not quite a high-point, considering all the horrific exploding limbs, but consistently entertaining for many events, which they certainly were not for a while.

[thesloppy]

UFC just stringing together a historic run of mutilated joints right now.

[bhlloy]

So that’s a first. A fighter just deciding not to finish somebody and lose by clear UD instead.

[Coffee Warlord]

All in all, not the best fight night. Diaz with that last minute shot was interesting, but really ... meh fights.

Ref for the Craig fight is gonna get bitched at for not stopping that earlier, though.

[bhlloy]

I dunno... Moreno was a good fight with a great stoppage, I enjoyed the whole Diaz fight but the Adesanya conundrum is something that Dana is going to have to deal with at some point though (and maybe I was way too harsh criticizing him upthread after the Blacho fight) because there's nobody at Middleweight who can touch him.

[thesloppy]

Apparently dude's arm was just disconnected and he popped it back in??

[Coffee Warlord]

Any of you remember MMA Tycoon? We had a small FOFC contingent like 12 years ago. Apparently it's still kicking. I re-joined on a whim.

[molson]

So that's three consecutive UFC PPVs since fans came back where we had a broken or dislocated limb.

And with 12 UFC divisions now, I still think it's OK that you have 1-2 with a dominant champion. The company and fans seem to get so antsy when a guy makes 3 or 4 title defenses.

Never played MMA Tycoon, or World of Mixed Martial Arts from Grey Dog, though I always meant to.

[PilotMan]

WMMA is still fantastic. The latest one, 5, is the cream of the crop.

[Lathum]

I don't know if anyone listens to Unfiltered with Jim Norton, but if they do at the 23:45 mark this week he talks about a wedding he went to this weekend and how great the band was. One of my best friends is the drummer. The band is called The Amish Outlaws. They are already very successful, but it was really cool to get that kind of shout out.

[thesloppy]

another absurd breakage for the UFC. Crazy.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

another absurd breakage for the UFC. Crazy.

What happened?

[thesloppy]

Spoiler

[Galaril]

Thanks.

[molson]

Conner's trashiness somehow comes off differently when he's interviewed lying on the ground after he gets his ass kicked again, and while insulting his opponent's wife.

[molson]

Greg Hardy also got knocked out, that was fun.

[JonInMiddleGA]

That's one of the most horrifying things I've seen in a long time.

And by "that", I'm talking about Jared Leto's outfit.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by molson

Conner's trashiness somehow comes off differently when he's interviewed lying on the ground after he gets his ass kicked again, and while insulting his opponent's wife.

I loathe the guy, but I gotta respect the marketing game of that move.

He isn't sure when he'll walk again but he's already angling for a 4th fight.

[molson]

He can make $30 million or whatever fighting anybody, he should target someone down at his ability level.

Edit: but White says rematch after Poirer gets title shot. Not a lot of guys have lost 3 times to the same guy. Ortiz/Shamrock, i'm not sure who else

[PilotMan]

Good to see Porier win again. Anyone saying it was just a freak accident doesn't understand the concept of defending leg kicks. Sure it doesn't always happen, but it's a well known risk of using the technique.

[cartman]

Look back, it is pretty clear that one of Poirier's checks started the chain of events towards the broken leg. McGregor I don't think threw another leg kick after the first minute or so after kicking constantly in the first 60 seconds.

[molson]

Boxing freak show update.

48-year old Oscar de La Hoya had to pull out of his boxing match with 44-year old Vitor Belfort (who has one career boxing match) beacuse he's in the hospital with COVID, but don't worry, 58-year old Evander Holyfield is stepping in. Belfort v. Holyfield is on. California would not license this, so, they did the obvious thing and moved the fight to Florida.

This is all with the Triller Fight Club promotion, where Jake Paul soundly defeated Tyrone Woodley by decision last week (it was a split decision, but it sounds like Paul clearly won). Woodley did connect with one good punch, but Paul worked past it and won. Paul will give Woodley a rematch if Woodley gets an "I love Jake Paul" tattoo on his leg. Woodley has not ruled this out. Online betting sites have Woodley the favorite to be his next opponent, with Conner McGregor the next most likely. Paul also did announce his retirement from boxing, but nobody believes him.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by molson

Boxing freak show update.

48-year old Oscar de La Hoya had to pull out of his boxing match with 44-year old Vitor Belfort (who has one career boxing match) beacuse he's in the hospital with COVID, but don't worry, 58-year old Evander Holyfield is stepping in. Belfort v. Holyfield is on. California would not license this, so, they did the obvious thing and moved the fight to Florida.

This is all with the Triller Fight Club promotion, where Jake Paul soundly defeated Tyrone Woodley by decision last week (it was a split decision, but it sounds like Paul clearly won). Woodley did connect with one good punch, but Paul worked past it and won. Paul will give Woodley a rematch if Woodley gets an "I love Jake Paul" tattoo on his leg. Woodley has not ruled this out. Online betting sites have Woodley the favorite to be his next opponent, with Conner McGregor the next most likely. Paul also did announce his retirement from boxing, but nobody believes him.

To be fair to Triller, Showtime is now responsible for the abortion that is Jake Paul's "career" in the ring.

[spleen1015]

I think Paul came out of retirement the next day....

Too much money to be made for him to retire.

[dubb93]

I’m not buying any of this, but if it was on TV I’d watch all the Triller freak show fights for sure.

[molson]

I got you covered for the finishes of the two big Triller freak show fights tonight. I won't spoiler them, except to say both were finishes: Tito Ortiz v. Anderson Silva, and then Evander Holyfield v. Vitor Belfort:

Streamable Video

Streamable Video

(Featuring Donald Trump on commentary in the second fight)

[BYU 14]

Tito looks like he is boxing underwater, and Evander is my age for gods sake, nuff said and Trump on commentary is the perfect cherry on this shit show

[Edward64]

FWIW, to my uneducated eyes, looked like they ended the Holyfield fight early?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Edward64

FWIW, to my uneducated eyes, looked like they ended the Holyfield fight early?

He’s a 60 year old man with CTE who had already been knocked down twice (1 was ruled a slip) and was just trying to cover up at that point. Stopping the fight the day after it was announced wouldn’t have been too early.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by dubb93

He’s a 60 year old man with CTE who had already been knocked down twice (1 was ruled a slip) and was just trying to cover up at that point. Stopping the fight the day after it was announced wouldn’t have been too early.

Seemed as if he was covering up okay and then the ref stepped in.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Seemed as if he was covering up okay and then the ref stepped in.

He was not right and was going to get hurt, they did the right thing and as dubb said it should have been stopped in the dressing room, just cringe.

I am in great shape for 58, still hit the bags regularly and there is no way in hell I would spar against someone of decent skill 15-20 years younger than me. My speed and reflexes have declined remarkedly since my mid 40's, when even then I was a shell of me as a teen/20 something when I actually fought.

Ref did him a huge favor, that the promotors should have done by never making the fight, I don't care how much he spars in the gym still.

[BYU 14]

And McGregor now getting into scraps with MGK at the VMA's. Dude probably needs to go away. His once comical and somewhat endearing act has long since jumped the shark and he is becoming the Irish Colby Covington

[molson]

It always takes me a couple of days to get through one of these shows but UFC 266 was awesome. Volkanovski dominating Ortega except for the 3-4 times he got caught with submissions and turned purple before escaping. Shevchenko making a a top contender look like an awkward soccer mom. And Diaz/Lawler was the best old man fight I ever saw. They were both slower, but still super aggressive and durable enough to give us a few rounds. Curtis Blaydes looked great. Lots of fun stuff on the undercard too.

Oh and Jon Jones gets arrested again for domestic battery.

[Atocep]

If Fury and Wilder are the best the heavyweight division can put out there right now then boxing is in as bad of shape as it's made out to be.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by Atocep

If Fury and Wilder are the best the heavyweight division can put out there right now then boxing is in as bad of shape as it's made out to be.

What happened?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by tarcone

What happened?

Fury won an entertaining, but sloppy fight. Sloppy is being really kind.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Fury won an entertaining, but sloppy fight. Sloppy is being really kind.

Fury is always sloppy, this was not going to be another Hearns / Leonard, but Fury has a very high ring IQ and exceptional instincts. He is just very unorthodox, but it was a very entertaining fight.

Wilder showed some new tricks, was not straight up/straight in and out, actually showed decent lateral movement and used more than just a straight 1-2. He made a mistake bulking up and it cost him as the rounds went on, fatigue wise. And when he tired he resorted back to what he has done in the past.

They are the best, along with Usyk and the HW division has certainly been in worse shape. Sloppy or not fight was a classic and there were a few subtle things both of them did that isn't always apparent to everyone watching.

[molson]

So it looks like Cain Velasquez killed a guy.

Edit: just shot. Phew.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by molson

So it looks like Cain Velasquez killed a guy.

Edit: just shot. Phew.

When I saw that this thread had been bumped on a weekday my brain immediately went to "Jon Jones shot himself"

[Carman Bulldog]

Cain Velasquez May Have Been Trying to Shoot Man Accused of Abusing Family Member: Sources – NBC Bay Area

New Report Suggests Possible Motive For Cain Velasquez Shooting

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

Cain Velasquez May Have Been Trying to Shoot Man Accused of Abusing Family Member: Sources – NBC Bay Area

New Report Suggests Possible Motive For Cain Velasquez Shooting

Bad for him that he shot the wrong guy. A jury may have been sympathetic if he shot the molester. I will say there is probably a bunch of information we don’t know so I could be totally off here.

[miami_fan]

Colby Covington Says Jorge Masvidal Punched Him Twice & Broke His Tooth In Attack

[BYU 14]

Not that I don't enjoy seeing Covington get cracked, but genius Masvidal just ended his UFC career and may get some jail time as well.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Masvidal just ended his UFC career

Really? You really think if they think he can sell a PPV that they are cutting him over this? This company will book anyone they think they can pop a buy rate from. They have no behavioral standard at this point. They basically encourage controversy.