2014 College Football Hiring/Firing Thread - Page 5

CU Tiger · 01-13-2015, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cschex

If it's Steele I think that fans might riot. But barring something crazy, it's looking likely to be Pedergast with Orgeron as a strong possibility at DL coach

Better get ready to riot.

Tigercat · 01-14-2015, 01:14 AM

First things first: Steele was far from being on the list of guys I wanted, and the informed fan base is indeed not happy.

But I look at it this way: Chavis's reputation amongst college football fans wasn't that high after Tennessee either. Chavis's popular knock was he couldn't get his D off the field on third down, Steele's last Clemson season and last game against WVU is his. Chavis's tactical rep was better than Steele's is/was however, but Steele also recruits better. Louisiana produces a sick amount of defensive talent, and it made Chavis look better than he looked at Tennessee, maybe the same will happen for Steele? We shall see.

I am still stunned that Miles would offer Steele when he never offered Pendergast or Shoop.

CU Tiger · 01-14-2015, 07:04 AM

KS is a good dude.
May not know this but he and John Chavis are from the same very small SC town, Dillon.

Steele is a great football mind, spent some time in the NFL etc.

Here is my rub with him as a DC. He gets so nervous on gameday he doesnt eat all day before the game, otherwise he pukes. Even night games, he wont eat ALL DAY. In the orange bowl debacle against WVU he was calling blitzes that hadnt been practiced in 2 years. After the game he was given an IV after passing out from low blood sugar essentially.

Mobile QBs are his Kryptonite. Andy Dalton ran for 140 yards against Clemson's Steele defense in the rain. It wasn't Steele's last Clemson season it was every year there.

His other issue is his D is VERY VERY complex. We used to call it the Jazz Hands Defense because of all the hand signals our LBs were required to make and often were still signaling in the adjustments when the ball was snapped.

Finally he is as good against a pro style O as anyone in America, but HUNH spread is not good for him.

cschex · 01-14-2015, 08:36 AM

*sigh* That's what I'm worried about, since it isn't like that offense is going away. Interestingly enough, there are rumors today that Orgeron will be named to the staff so I was half right in my prediction. There has been quite the meltdown over Steele in the last 18 hours on the message boards but I just hope that he calmed down some in his second stint with Bama.

cschex · 01-14-2015, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cschex

*sigh* That's what I'm worried about, since it isn't like that offense is going away. Interestingly enough, there are rumors today that Orgeron will be named to the staff so I was half right in my prediction. There has been quite the meltdown over Steele in the last 18 hours on the message boards but I just hope that he calmed down some in his second stint with Bama.

DOLA - Orgeron confirmed. Well at least recruiting wont be a problem

HomerSimpson98 · 01-22-2015, 11:22 AM

Not sure where to put this so I will put it here.

Wisconsin's admission standards pushed Gary Andersen to Oregon St. - CBSSports.com

I'm no Dodd fan at all, but I dont understand why Andersen would come out and be saying this kind of stuff. The money is the same, the working relationship with Alvarez was good, the school is a step-down from Wisconsin. Is it really because he couldnt get idiots in? But you can at Oregon State? Amazing.

tarcone · 01-22-2015, 11:28 AM

This is going on at Iowa, also. Our president is retiring, so the fans are hoping the new president will be a pro-athletics president, and loosen standards a bit.

lungs · 01-22-2015, 12:32 PM

One of those things where there is some culpability on both sides but in the end everybody is happy all around. Andersen likes JuCo guys and that just isn't the type of player that has historically been used at Wisconsin.

In the end, Andersen finds a better fit for himself and Wisconsin gets the guy they probably originally wanted when they hired Andersen in Paul Chryst. Andersen was a standout guy in his time here (unlike Bielema), so I hope it works out for him at Oregon St.

HomerSimpson98 · 01-22-2015, 01:58 PM

Interesting take from a local - thanks lungs.

I would have that the Badger faithful would have been rolling over in laughter because of this. He's basically saying he cant win without a certain type of student athlete. Hello, negative recruiting!

bronconick · 01-22-2015, 02:04 PM

CMU coach Dan Enos leaves for OC at Arkansas.

01-22-2015, 11:28 AM	#207
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	This is going on at Iowa, also. Our president is retiring, so the fans are hoping the new president will be a pro-athletics president, and loosen standards a bit. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

01-14-2015, 01:14 AM	#202
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	First things first: Steele was far from being on the list of guys I wanted, and the informed fan base is indeed not happy. But I look at it this way: Chavis's reputation amongst college football fans wasn't that high after Tennessee either. Chavis's popular knock was he couldn't get his D off the field on third down, Steele's last Clemson season and last game against WVU is his. Chavis's tactical rep was better than Steele's is/was however, but Steele also recruits better. Louisiana produces a sick amount of defensive talent, and it made Chavis look better than he looked at Tennessee, maybe the same will happen for Steele? We shall see. I am still stunned that Miles would offer Steele when he never offered Pendergast or Shoop.

01-14-2015, 07:04 AM	#203
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	KS is a good dude. May not know this but he and John Chavis are from the same very small SC town, Dillon. Steele is a great football mind, spent some time in the NFL etc. Here is my rub with him as a DC. He gets so nervous on gameday he doesnt eat all day before the game, otherwise he pukes. Even night games, he wont eat ALL DAY. In the orange bowl debacle against WVU he was calling blitzes that hadnt been practiced in 2 years. After the game he was given an IV after passing out from low blood sugar essentially. Mobile QBs are his Kryptonite. Andy Dalton ran for 140 yards against Clemson's Steele defense in the rain. It wasn't Steele's last Clemson season it was every year there. His other issue is his D is VERY VERY complex. We used to call it the Jazz Hands Defense because of all the hand signals our LBs were required to make and often were still signaling in the adjustments when the ball was snapped. Finally he is as good against a pro style O as anyone in America, but HUNH spread is not good for him.

01-14-2015, 08:36 AM	#204
cschex High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX	sigh That's what I'm worried about, since it isn't like that offense is going away. Interestingly enough, there are rumors today that Orgeron will be named to the staff so I was half right in my prediction. There has been quite the meltdown over Steele in the last 18 hours on the message boards but I just hope that he calmed down some in his second stint with Bama.

01-22-2015, 11:22 AM	#206
HomerSimpson98 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cowtown, TX	Not sure where to put this so I will put it here. Wisconsin's admission standards pushed Gary Andersen to Oregon St. - CBSSports.com I'm no Dodd fan at all, but I dont understand why Andersen would come out and be saying this kind of stuff. The money is the same, the working relationship with Alvarez was good, the school is a step-down from Wisconsin. Is it really because he couldnt get idiots in? But you can at Oregon State? Amazing.

01-22-2015, 12:32 PM	#208
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	One of those things where there is some culpability on both sides but in the end everybody is happy all around. Andersen likes JuCo guys and that just isn't the type of player that has historically been used at Wisconsin. In the end, Andersen finds a better fit for himself and Wisconsin gets the guy they probably originally wanted when they hired Andersen in Paul Chryst. Andersen was a standout guy in his time here (unlike Bielema), so I hope it works out for him at Oregon St.

01-22-2015, 01:58 PM	#209
HomerSimpson98 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cowtown, TX	Interesting take from a local - thanks lungs. I would have that the Badger faithful would have been rolling over in laughter because of this. He's basically saying he cant win without a certain type of student athlete. Hello, negative recruiting!

01-22-2015, 02:04 PM	#210
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	CMU coach Dan Enos leaves for OC at Arkansas.

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