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Old 01-25-2008, 01:32 PM   #1051
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Agreed. Can we vote nightfall or something?
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:32 PM   #1052
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I do have some. Any chance we can do Monday for the next deadline? I'll be visiting my grandma in hospice care this weekend (it's been coming for awhile, but I of course want to spend some more time with her).

At most over the weekend I'd be able to get a vote in (and likely a very uninformed one).

Anyone else have a weekend conflict? If it's just me then I'm ok with just voting and that's it.

I'm going to be busy over the weekend and away from the computer most of it...I'd rather wait for a Sunday night deadline, and then pick up on Monday as usual. I hate to waste all weekend...not sure when you are coming back, but if you could catch up on Sunday and get a vote in, that might work better than skipping the weekend all together.
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:33 PM   #1053
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I'm going to be busy over the weekend and away from the computer most of it...I'd rather wait for a Sunday night deadline, and then pick up on Monday as usual. I hate to waste all weekend...not sure when you are coming back, but if you could catch up on Sunday and get a vote in, that might work better than skipping the weekend all together.

Sunday at like 10 PM would be fine with me, as would Monday at noonish.
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:34 PM   #1054
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I'm going to be busy over the weekend and away from the computer most of it...I'd rather wait for a Sunday night deadline, and then pick up on Monday as usual. I hate to waste all weekend...not sure when you are coming back, but if you could catch up on Sunday and get a vote in, that might work better than skipping the weekend all together.

Yeah, I hate to waste the weekend too, I totally get that.

I can definitely get a vote in (worst-case from my phone) at some point between the deadline tonight and a deadline Sunday night. Much beyond that though, I couldn't do, which is fine. My analysis has hardly been spot-on this game.
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:39 PM   #1055
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If I was dead certain you were a wolf though, path, my vote would be on you today.

Fair enough. I'm not, but you wouldn't expect me to say anything else, right?
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:40 PM   #1056
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I'll be pretty busy, too. I have some friends coming in town for a surprise birthday party for lurker (no one tell her!), and they'll be staying with us all weekend, so I don't think I'll get as much chance to get away and check out what's going on in here. I'll probably get a vote in if I need to, but not much else.
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:42 PM   #1057
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Saying something like that is going to get the heat right back on you Lathum. Everyone should just be quiet for the rest of the day so not to deter the light back onto them.

I disagree with that statement. Best thing you can do as a vanilla worker is to go after people even if it ends up lynching you. You save village role players and now and again catch a wolf.
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:43 PM   #1058
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Saying something like that is going to get the heat right back on you Lathum. Everyone should just be quiet for the rest of the day so not to deter the light back onto them.

i know what I'm doing
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:45 PM   #1059
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It looks like a sunday 10PM deadline is what works best for everyone
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:56 PM   #1060
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i know what I'm doing

And I apparently don't.
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:56 PM   #1061
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It looks like a sunday 10PM deadline is what works best for everyone

Yep, works for me too.
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Old 01-25-2008, 03:01 PM   #1062
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I think the linkage of SnDvls and Passacaglia in voting is very suspicious.

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

Considering the runaway on mauboy1, I'd like to cast a more interesting vote.
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Old 01-25-2008, 03:48 PM   #1063
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I'll be pretty busy, too. I have some friends coming in town for a surprise birthday party for lurker (no one tell her!), and they'll be staying with us all weekend, so I don't think I'll get as much chance to get away and check out what's going on in here. I'll probably get a vote in if I need to, but not much else.


Ummm, why were we not invited to this party? Do you not care about your FOFC friends????

Have fun and tell her Happy Birthday!
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:07 PM   #1064
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Actually it was his post above that he voted Pass. He used his scan result to clear Mau and vote Pass since they acted hand in hand. To me, that's pretty careless.
That's not what I am saying at all. For Mau, 75% of why i think he's clear is because of his behavior. It's too "busy" for a wolf. 25% is the fact that he cleared the scan last night. For Pass, his vote from RendeR to Fink in the 11th hour and the immediate post on Farrah the next morning (beginning that run) is what led me to think he's a wolf. Scans are basically irrelevant to me unless it's a tie in all other logic.

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I mean I guess it could coincidentally be accurate, but I'd actually think that Mau and Pass are on the same side. So I don't get how he can clear Mau on his random-view and then indict Pass.
I disagree completely. There's no way Pass and Mau are stupid enough to both be on the same side and vote right after each other on the same person for multiple days straight. I'm thinking that one is a wolf and one is safe.

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But that's really neither here nor there. I'm thinking we lynch Mau, if he's bad, we go for Pass. If he's good, we regroup after this wasted day.
Again, I think the opposite. If Mau is a wolf, then I would say that helps Pass. The odds that both are the same faction and been tied at the hip like this is unlikely. However, if Mau is a villager, then that means he's been following Pass' logic that has voted off two crew wolves - not knowing that Pass is a wolf.

I'm OK with voting Mau off as I think either him or Pass are a wolf (but not both). So, if Mau is the wolf - good, maybe we spare Pass. But, if Mau is indeed a villager, I think Pass must be a wolf. So, to update my "hit-list", I would do:

1. Mau/Pass (one is a wolf, one a villager)
2. Path12
3. Lathum

Lathum may be the fish and here's why. If you go with my assumption that Pass is a wolf, on the first day both Pass and SnDvls voted for Lathum. That to me means he was not on their "team" then. Then, on the second day, Lathum went from getting 5 votes to 1 and all 3 of SnDvls, Lathum and Pass voted for Fink. IMO, something happened between day 1 and day 2 to adjust those votes (fish?).
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:10 PM   #1065
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I'd agree on that Lathum point, and I suppose I get what you are saying about Pass's vote. Did Mau vote Fink that day too?

And that 25% should be 0%, IMO.
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:10 PM   #1066
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I do have some. Any chance we can do Monday for the next deadline? I'll be visiting my grandma in hospice care this weekend (it's been coming for awhile, but I of course want to spend some more time with her).

At most over the weekend I'd be able to get a vote in (and likely a very uninformed one).

Anyone else have a weekend conflict? If it's just me then I'm ok with just voting and that's it.
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:19 PM   #1067
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i am not the fish, people
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:01 PM   #1068
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I'd agree on that Lathum point, and I suppose I get what you are saying about Pass's vote. Did Mau vote Fink that day too?
Yeah, both Mau and Pass switched to Fink in the final 5 minutes.

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And that 25% should be 0%, IMO.
I don't know about that. Just because it's random doesn't mean it's not ever correct. If I think Pass and Mau are each 50-50 to be a wolf, but only one is - and I have a scan that says Mau is safe, why not use it as the deciding factor?

At any rate, even without the scan I think Pass has a higher chance at being a wolf. But, I'll find out based on Mau's result so I don't know that it matters.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:35 PM   #1069
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Stupid question for this far in the game, but are we sure the fish knows who they are?
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:36 PM   #1070
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Stupid question for this far in the game, but are we sure the fish knows who they are?

I've been wondering that, too. The rules don't say he does.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:40 PM   #1071
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i am not the fish, people

What are you then?
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:39 PM   #1072
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:49 PM   #1073
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Lathum may be the fish and here's why. If you go with my assumption that Pass is a wolf, on the first day both Pass and SnDvls voted for Lathum. That to me means he was not on their "team" then. Then, on the second day, Lathum went from getting 5 votes to 1 and all 3 of SnDvls, Lathum and Pass voted for Fink. IMO, something happened between day 1 and day 2 to adjust those votes (fish?).

Here's my issue with this line of thinking.

We know that SnDvls and Fink were on different teams. That means that they knew exactly who the other one was all the time. SnDvls moving to Fink doesn't mean that Lathum was the fish, it simply means that he had an opportunity to off a wolf on the other team, which he jumped on. Lathum could be a fish, a worker, or a wolf still for all we know.

I think what's happening more is that after day 1 some wolves started to see how they could be outed by vote pattern and started just moving around to whichever opportunity presented itself -- if a villager, great; if a wolf on the other team, better; if a wolf on their own team, camoflage if it looked like they couldn't be saved. I'll be very interested when this all shakes out to see if there was a Crew member who voted for Fink. I suspect there is.
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:50 PM   #1074
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Oh, for the record

VOTE MAU

We can't move forward until we know what he is.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:10 PM   #1075
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unvote jeheinz
vote pass

Whatever. I don't think either of us are wolves, but you guys are thinking differently.

And once again, this has been a wasted day big time and there is no doubt that I'm to blame. Hopefully it doesn't cost us the game.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:17 PM   #1076
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unvote jeheinz
vote pass

Whatever. I don't think either of us are wolves, but you guys are thinking differently.

And once again, this has been a wasted day big time and there is no doubt that I'm to blame. Hopefully it doesn't cost us the game.

If you don't think I'm a wolf, why are you voting for me?
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:19 PM   #1077
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Because there is a better chance that you're a wolf than me. I know I was going to vote for you, but, the off chance of having other people switch... whatever, its over for me anyways.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:20 PM   #1078
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:23 PM   #1079
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Because there is a better chance that you're a wolf than me. I know I was going to vote for you, but, the off chance of having other people switch... whatever, its over for me anyways.

I'm not saying you should vote for yourself. There's a better chance that I'm a wolf than you? I am so lost.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:26 PM   #1080
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unvote mau
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:28 PM   #1081
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unvote mau
vote Pass

This will be interesting.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:28 PM   #1082
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I'm not saying you should vote for yourself. There's a better chance that I'm a wolf than you? I am so lost.

Yes, since I'm not a wolf, therefore the chances of you being a wolf is greater.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:32 PM   #1083
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Yes, since I'm not a wolf, therefore the chances of you being a wolf is greater.

That seems like an odd way to put it. And doesn't really explain why you voted me -- if that's the way you really feel, isn't that statement true for everyone?
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:32 PM   #1084
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For someone who said he wasn't going to post again until 15 minutes before deadline, Mau sure has been rambling a lot today...deadline is at 9 tonight, right?
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:33 PM   #1085
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:33 PM   #1086
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Day 4 Count (as of Post 1082)

mauboy1 (11)-- Passacaglia (954), Alan T (963), claphamsa (971), ntndeacon (977), Schmidty (989), bsak16 (991), jeheinz (992), Render (999), oliegirl (1027), The Jackal (1032), path12 (1074)
Passacaglia (4)-- Arles (1022), Mr. Wednesday (1062), mauboy1 (1075), Lathum (1080)


Vote count with about a half hour left.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:33 PM   #1087
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:34 PM   #1088
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Look above you.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:35 PM   #1089
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:36 PM   #1090
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anyone want to tell me who the wolves are?
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:38 PM   #1091
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anyone want to tell me who the wolves are?

LOL...good one pass!
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:40 PM   #1092
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Technically, it was receive and then ask.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:40 PM   #1093
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anyone want to tell me who the wolves are?

like you don't know
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:42 PM   #1094
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like you don't know

no seriously dood all i got is king-nine
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:42 PM   #1095
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I think if there is gonna be a conversion it should be tonight
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:42 PM   #1096
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DAMNIT!!!!

I should have said srsly
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:43 PM   #1097
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:47 PM   #1098
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no seriously dood all i got is king-nine

and I know that!!!

which is why I AM NO FISH
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:47 PM   #1099
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For someone who said he wasn't going to post again until 15 minutes before deadline, Mau sure has been rambling a lot today...deadline is at 9 tonight, right?

Yeah, I got bored and wanted to reply to a few posts. Sorry.

I just thought there was some hope left when people started voting Pass.
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god that was a great call
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