2012 FOFC Alternate Rules Football; Draft Complete, Set Your Lineups - Page 5

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 01:03 PM

How many people in this draft are in their first draft this season? This is my second and it seems like this one is more representative (once you take out the rule changes) of what players' true "projected values" are. You see some pretty big influences where guys who are "likes" really moved up the board to what people think are their true potential and "dislikes" dropped a lot so they become bargains.

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Chief Rum · 08-23-2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

6.7 Dez Bryant, WR, DAL

You guys trying to give me the title?

I thought this was fantasy football, not fantasy beat yo mama?

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

6.7 Dez Bryant, WR, DAL

You guys trying to give me the title?

Gotta pick 2 QBs at some point

Tho there are 3 or 4 I'd still be happy with as my QB2 right now. Heck, there's one I'd be fine with as my QB1.

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Scoobz0202 · 08-23-2012, 01:16 PM

Im a dallas fan and wasnt interested in Dez

Danny · 08-23-2012, 01:18 PM

I sent Chief a list, he can pick for me as soon as my pick comes up.

TRO · 08-23-2012, 01:21 PM

If you can't have one of the top tier QBs, it is hard to argue with loading up on the RBs and WRs. The drop offs at RB now are dramatic and the WR values were very very good.

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 01:22 PM

Looks like Butter, myself, and Rafini are all reading this thread so we'll have this thing turned around again here in a little bit. I have a meeting at 2, but it's on the phone so I can still pick. I just might be a little slow.

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Butter · 08-23-2012, 01:24 PM

6.8 - WR Jeremy Maclin, PHI

Danny · 08-23-2012, 01:28 PM

I really hate the late teen + 20+ ranked RB's this year. Usually there are at least a couple I like, but this year I dont get excited about any of them.

Chief Rum · 08-23-2012, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I really hate the late teen + 20+ ranked RB's this year. Usually there are at least a couple I like, but this year I dont get excited about any of them.

Me, too. We have really hit a cliff in terms of RBs. If you don't have your two top guys already, you will either have to get lucky and one of these remaining guys pans out much better than we thought, or you better hope you made carry the team level picks at QB and WR.

Masked · 08-23-2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I really hate the late teen + 20+ ranked RB's this year. Usually there are at least a couple I like, but this year I dont get excited about any of them.

Yes, this is what pushed me into grabbing the 2 RBs at my last pick. I felt that I'd have better luck filling out the WRs in the later rounds.

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 01:38 PM

6.9 TE Antonio Gates, SD

There are a lot of good TEs out there but I think they're going to start going off the board fairly quickly and I wanted to get the one I thought was at the top of the stack as no other players are really jumping out at me.

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k0ruptr · 08-23-2012, 01:39 PM

booooo! just got my internet hooked up in new apartment! looks like i just missed my invite! sorry guys, and whoever got my spot - best of luck

Subby · 08-23-2012, 01:40 PM

You want your team back? They suck so far.

k0ruptr · 08-23-2012, 01:43 PM

lmao - you will think that for about 6 weeks, then go on a tear and finish top 4... or that how its supposed to work.

rafini · 08-23-2012, 01:46 PM

6.10 RB BenJarvis Green-Ellis, Cin
7.1 WR Brandon Lloyd, NE

TRO · 08-23-2012, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

6.9 TE Antonio Gates, SD

There are a lot of good TEs out there but I think they're going to start going off the board fairly quickly and I wanted to get the one I thought was at the top of the stack as no other players are really jumping out at me.

SI

I normally like to get my TEs early in this draft, but the requirement of only 1 TE starter really lessens their value IMO.

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRO

I normally like to get my TEs early in this draft, but the requirement of only 1 TE starter really lessens their value IMO.

I agree, tho it's slightly offset by the PPR nature of the league. It's something to consider for next year's league. However, you usually were starting someone in the dregs for your 2nd TE here and I wanted to get away from that.

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Danny · 08-23-2012, 01:55 PM

I agree with TRO, TE's actually have weaker value in this league now compared to a standard league.

The reason is that say a TE like Gronk is a +100 over the 11th ranked TE. Then lets say in standard league a guy like Charles is +70 over the 21st ranked RB. Because we have that extra RB flex spot, that adds an extra +30 or so to Charles' value but leaves Gronks value the same. These are just rough numbers.

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 02:25 PM

I was about to take Dwayne Bowe and realized "oops, that would be 4 players with week 7 bye". Normally I don't pay any attention to byes but this seems like it could be a problem

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sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 02:27 PM

7.2 WR Antonio Brown, PIT

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sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 02:28 PM

Yahoo and thread updated thru 7.2

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Butter · 08-23-2012, 02:29 PM

7.3 - TE Vernon Davis, SF

Butter · 08-23-2012, 02:30 PM

CR, you're up for Danny looks like?

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 02:32 PM

I should have gone with Lloyd at 6.9 like I was planning

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Chief Rum · 08-23-2012, 02:37 PM

Danny's pick by list...

7.4 Robert Griffin III, QB WAS

rafini · 08-23-2012, 02:37 PM

What's funny is I likely would've gone with Brown had you taken Lloyd.

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 02:46 PM

And I would have had Gates either way. So I guess it's sortof a wash.

Oh, and I'm severely underwhelmed with my team so far. Everyone is pretty much at value. Nothing too high or too low but nothing exciting at all.

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Chief Rum · 08-23-2012, 02:46 PM

7.5 Stevie Johnson, WR BUF

Danny · 08-23-2012, 02:53 PM

I am thrilled to get griffin so late here after all those other qb's went

Scoobz0202 · 08-23-2012, 02:57 PM

7.6 Shonn Greene RB NYJ

Chief Rum · 08-23-2012, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I was about to take Dwayne Bowe and realized "oops, that would be 4 players with week 7 bye". Normally I don't pay any attention to byes but this seems like it could be a problem

SI

I wish you had, as I was very interested in Antonio Brown.

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I am thrilled to get griffin so late here after all those other qb's went

I don't like him that much. Rookie QB in a mediocre situation with mediocre WRs. It's not that he's necessarily going to be bad, but I don't think he's going to be good and his ADP is nuts in a lot of leagues. Here he fell quite a bit so he's a reasonable pick but not a steal, in my mind. I just don't see him that much better than some of the other fluff left on the board: Palmer, Freeman, Dalton, Flacco, or maybe even Luck.

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Scoobz0202 · 08-23-2012, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I was about to take Dwayne Bowe and realized "oops, that would be 4 players with week 7 bye". Normally I don't pay any attention to byes but this seems like it could be a problem

SI

I think my first three picks are week 7 byes. Should be a fun week

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 03:09 PM

HAHA: Dayton vs Houston. It's the All Star matchup between Blane Gabbert and Christian Ponder! Ben Tate will face Robert Turbin from the bench!

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TRO · 08-23-2012, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

7.6 Shonn Greene RB NYJ

He isn't even the best RB on his team.

* Obligatory Tebow joke.

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 03:20 PM

I strongly looked at Greene since he seems almost guaranteed to start but I was worried about the Tebow factor stealing all of his TDs and it's not like he's a great or consistent runner to begin with. Sure, he's the only RB but it's like having a TD vulture behind you

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sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 03:21 PM

I'm going to be leaving in about an hour and be out most of the night since a friend's plane got stuck in Houston. I'll update before leaving and then I'll try to update when I can but no guess as to when that will be and it might just be 6am tomorrow morning

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Subby · 08-23-2012, 04:00 PM

7.7 Andy Dalton, QB, CIN

Time to take the next step, kid!

Julio Riddols · 08-23-2012, 04:02 PM

That was what I wanted to do.. Dammit.

Julio Riddols · 08-23-2012, 04:03 PM

7.8 Andrew Luck, QB, IND

Chief Rum · 08-23-2012, 04:09 PM

Here comes the QB run. Way to go, Danny!

sterlingice · 08-23-2012, 04:17 PM

Yahoo and thread updated thru 7.8. I won't be around until much later tonight. If by some chance it gets back to my, I'll pick by phone but we're a long way from my side of the draft.

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TRO · 08-23-2012, 04:19 PM

Pfft, only 3 teams left need a 2nd QB. I would have considered one of RGIII, Dalton and Luck here, but since I miss that tier, I'll pick up a nice secondary prize:
7.9 WR Dwayne Bowe, KC

Subby · 08-23-2012, 04:20 PM

Does that pick come with free Road Beef?

Scoobz0202 · 08-23-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRO

Pfft, only 3 teams left need a 2nd QB. I would have considered one of RGIII, Dalton and Luck here, but since I miss that tier, I'll pick up a nice secondary prize:
7.9 WR Dwayne Bowe, KC

Pretty much. I would have taken one of those to start, but I was going to wait till a couple more rounds. Let's wait for a nice secondary prize together!

Masked · 08-23-2012, 04:39 PM

7.10 WR Miles Austin, Dal
8.1 WR Robert Meachem, SD

I was hoping for Bowe. Ended up going for questionable guys in better than average offenses as opposed to better than average guys in questionable offenses.

Danny · 08-23-2012, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I don't like him that much. Rookie QB in a mediocre situation with mediocre WRs. It's not that he's necessarily going to be bad, but I don't think he's going to be good and his ADP is nuts in a lot of leagues. Here he fell quite a bit so he's a reasonable pick but not a steal, in my mind. I just don't see him that much better than some of the other fluff left on the board: Palmer, Freeman, Dalton, Flacco, or maybe even Luck.

SI

I don't disagree with anything here, but what I think puts him ahead of those guys is his running ability. He'll likely have similar passing stats but an extra 70 or so points from running. I do think his ADP is generally too high though, but I'll certainly take him 3-4 rounds after guys I have rated lower like Cutler and Schaub

Butter · 08-23-2012, 04:59 PM

I appreciate the optimism with Subby's Dalton pick, but there is a reason the Bengals haven't had back-to-back winning seasons in forever.

Subby · 08-23-2012, 05:05 PM

Less optimism, more desperation.

08-23-2012, 01:03 PM	#201
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	How many people in this draft are in their first draft this season? This is my second and it seems like this one is more representative (once you take out the rule changes) of what players' true "projected values" are. You see some pretty big influences where guys who are "likes" really moved up the board to what people think are their true potential and "dislikes" dropped a lot so they become bargains. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 01:21 PM	#206
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	If you can't have one of the top tier QBs, it is hard to argue with loading up on the RBs and WRs. The drop offs at RB now are dramatic and the WR values were very very good. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

08-23-2012, 01:22 PM	#207
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Looks like Butter, myself, and Rafini are all reading this thread so we'll have this thing turned around again here in a little bit. I have a meeting at 2, but it's on the phone so I can still pick. I just might be a little slow. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 08-23-2012 at 01:24 PM.

08-23-2012, 01:24 PM	#208
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	6.8 - WR Jeremy Maclin, PHI __________________ My listening habits

08-23-2012, 01:38 PM	#212
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	6.9 TE Antonio Gates, SD There are a lot of good TEs out there but I think they're going to start going off the board fairly quickly and I wanted to get the one I thought was at the top of the stack as no other players are really jumping out at me. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 01:16 PM	#204
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Im a dallas fan and wasnt interested in Dez

08-23-2012, 01:18 PM	#205
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I sent Chief a list, he can pick for me as soon as my pick comes up.

08-23-2012, 01:28 PM	#209
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I really hate the late teen + 20+ ranked RB's this year. Usually there are at least a couple I like, but this year I dont get excited about any of them.

08-23-2012, 01:39 PM	#213
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	booooo! just got my internet hooked up in new apartment! looks like i just missed my invite! sorry guys, and whoever got my spot - best of luck __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

08-23-2012, 01:40 PM	#214
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	You want your team back? They suck so far. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-23-2012, 01:43 PM	#215
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	lmao - you will think that for about 6 weeks, then go on a tear and finish top 4... or that how its supposed to work. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

08-23-2012, 01:46 PM	#216
rafini High School JV Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Virginia Beach	6.10 RB BenJarvis Green-Ellis, Cin 7.1 WR Brandon Lloyd, NE

08-23-2012, 01:55 PM	#219
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I agree with TRO, TE's actually have weaker value in this league now compared to a standard league. The reason is that say a TE like Gronk is a +100 over the 11th ranked TE. Then lets say in standard league a guy like Charles is +70 over the 21st ranked RB. Because we have that extra RB flex spot, that adds an extra +30 or so to Charles' value but leaves Gronks value the same. These are just rough numbers.

08-23-2012, 02:25 PM	#220
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I was about to take Dwayne Bowe and realized "oops, that would be 4 players with week 7 bye". Normally I don't pay any attention to byes but this seems like it could be a problem SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 02:27 PM	#221
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	7.2 WR Antonio Brown, PIT SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 02:28 PM	#222
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yahoo and thread updated thru 7.2 SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 02:29 PM	#223
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	7.3 - TE Vernon Davis, SF __________________ My listening habits

08-23-2012, 02:30 PM	#224
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	CR, you're up for Danny looks like? __________________ My listening habits

08-23-2012, 02:32 PM	#225
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I should have gone with Lloyd at 6.9 like I was planning SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 02:37 PM	#226
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Danny's pick by list... 7.4 Robert Griffin III, QB WAS __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-23-2012, 02:37 PM	#227
rafini High School JV Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Virginia Beach	What's funny is I likely would've gone with Brown had you taken Lloyd.

08-23-2012, 02:46 PM	#228
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	And I would have had Gates either way. So I guess it's sortof a wash. Oh, and I'm severely underwhelmed with my team so far. Everyone is pretty much at value. Nothing too high or too low but nothing exciting at all. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 02:46 PM	#229
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	7.5 Stevie Johnson, WR BUF __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-23-2012, 02:53 PM	#230
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I am thrilled to get griffin so late here after all those other qb's went

08-23-2012, 02:57 PM	#231
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	7.6 Shonn Greene RB NYJ

08-23-2012, 03:09 PM	#235
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	HAHA: Dayton vs Houston. It's the All Star matchup between Blane Gabbert and Christian Ponder! Ben Tate will face Robert Turbin from the bench! SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 03:20 PM	#237
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I strongly looked at Greene since he seems almost guaranteed to start but I was worried about the Tebow factor stealing all of his TDs and it's not like he's a great or consistent runner to begin with. Sure, he's the only RB but it's like having a TD vulture behind you SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 03:21 PM	#238
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I'm going to be leaving in about an hour and be out most of the night since a friend's plane got stuck in Houston. I'll update before leaving and then I'll try to update when I can but no guess as to when that will be and it might just be 6am tomorrow morning SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 08-23-2012 at 03:21 PM.

08-23-2012, 04:00 PM	#239
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	7.7 Andy Dalton, QB, CIN Time to take the next step, kid! __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-23-2012, 04:02 PM	#240
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	That was what I wanted to do.. Dammit. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-23-2012, 04:03 PM	#241
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	7.8 Andrew Luck, QB, IND __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-23-2012, 04:09 PM	#242
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Here comes the QB run. Way to go, Danny! __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-23-2012, 04:17 PM	#243
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yahoo and thread updated thru 7.8. I won't be around until much later tonight. If by some chance it gets back to my, I'll pick by phone but we're a long way from my side of the draft. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-23-2012, 04:19 PM	#244
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	Pfft, only 3 teams left need a 2nd QB. I would have considered one of RGIII, Dalton and Luck here, but since I miss that tier, I'll pick up a nice secondary prize: 7.9 WR Dwayne Bowe, KC __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape Last edited by TRO : 08-23-2012 at 04:19 PM.

08-23-2012, 04:20 PM	#245
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Does that pick come with free Road Beef? __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com