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[Tyrith]

I'd like to note that it's not as if you're going to forget I voted for you or anything. The damage in that regard was very much done, I just wanted to do something slightly useful with the vote.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Sublime 2

I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the bit yesterday, but don't you think you kind of brought some of the heat on you in the beginning of this? Like i said i didn't mind like some did, but it certainly raises an eyebrow or two.

I didnt say i didnt expect, or even enjoy the heat. I simply stated i had quite a bit more and didnt need tyrith convincing more people to suspect me. I find these games boring if im not on the edge. Just sitting back and making 2 comments a day just doesnt interest me. I love my play style as much, if not more then, most people hate it.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I thought we needed 13 for the 50%+1?

23 divided by 2 plus one is 12

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I thought we needed 13 for the 50%+1?

23 players alive, 12 is a clear cut majority.

The +1 thing was just written so that when we have an even number of people alive exactly half is not a majority. AKA if we have 22 alive tomorrow 11 votes will not lynch. Otherwise it's just like any other majority vote in anything else.

[LoneStarGirl]

there are 23 of us, so 12 is more than half of 23.... I think anxiety explained it early, like in page 5

[Blade6119]

Well i cant say i didnt see the writing on the wall...not i get to enjoy seeing alan and the other spin this

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Nevermind, I'm an idiot. I forgot we also lost Fouts last night.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

ah well

I am right again.

Me too.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

My arguement was you were my top suspect. I said becuase you werent going to get lynched, id take your supporter as my second best suspect. I never said you compelled me to vote a certain way, so stop putting words into my mouth...

By the way, i love these two posts

You actually recognize my acutal argument in the first half, then digress...I love how that one ends and this one follows shortly...nice contrast

Well you know.. if you attack me non stop for 2 days, it doesn't convince me that I'm bad. It just gets annoying after a while. So take that contrast however you want.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

errr sorry

"Dagnabbit!" or "darnit!"

do you want me to edit it?

Nah, just watch it in the future.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Well i cant say i didnt see the writing on the wall...not i get to enjoy seeing alan and the other spin this

What do you want me to spin? I guessed wrong. Good lord

[Sublime 2]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I didnt say i didnt expect, or even enjoy the heat. I simply stated i had quite a bit more and didnt need tyrith convincing more people to suspect me. I find these games boring if im not on the edge. Just sitting back and making 2 comments a day just doesnt interest me. I love my play style as much, if not more then, most people hate it.

Ok, that's understandable. At first your comments just sounded (to me) to be like a 'woe is me' kind of thing. I hope I can build myself up to your level of always being on edge. Certainly puts a little more interest into the game.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Well you know.. if you attack me non stop for 2 days, it doesn't convince me that I'm bad. It just gets annoying after a while. So take that contrast however you want.

Yes, im trying to convince you your bad...you figured out my grand scheme. My goal was to get you to self-vote yourself. Wow alan, im glad we have reached this intelligent conclusion to this debate

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Yes, im trying to convince you your bad...you figured out my grand scheme. My goal was to get you to self-vote yourself. Wow alan, im glad we have reached this intelligent conclusion to this debate

Is this an ok place to put these eyes again?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Yes, im trying to convince you your bad...you figured out my grand scheme. My goal was to get you to self-vote yourself. Wow alan, im glad we have reached this intelligent conclusion to this debate

Then your plan is terrible! He can't self vote himself, it's against the rules! Blade, your perfect scheme has failed!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Alan T

What do you want me to spin? I guessed wrong. Good lord

Alan, if your good i understand totally. Ive had many many times where i drove a lynch and was wrong. But you have to understand i saw my top suspect be one of the major reasons a certain person was lynched and blow it off fairly non-chalantly...im willing to see both sides of your case, but you have to be open to seeing both of mine

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Is this an ok place to put these eyes again?

Its a great place..i would have used them in mine lest you think me attacking you again

[Lorena]

Wow, what a write-up. The twitching part got to me... poor Chief.

Originally Posted by st.cronin

ah well

I am right again.

Yes, you are. Cronin you are a very underrated WW player ya know?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Then your plan is terrible! He can't self vote himself, it's against the rules! Blade, your perfect scheme has failed!

Thats the key to the perfect plan. As a bad guy, he votes himself, gets kicked out, and we win! Its perfect, i told you!!!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Wow, what a write-up. The twitching part got to me... poor Chief.



Yes, you are. Cronin you are a very underrated WW player ya know?

Come on DC, i was right too...dont i get a comment about my ability??

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Sublime 2

Ok, that's understandable. At first your comments just sounded (to me) to be like a 'woe is me' kind of thing. I hope I can build myself up to your level of always being on edge. Certainly puts a little more interest into the game.

Besides me, that is the last thing everyone wants. They all dislike me already, god forbid i take someone under my wing

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Thats the key to the perfect plan. As a bad guy, he votes himself, gets kicked out, and we win! Its perfect, i told you!!!

OMG, you're right! It is perfect! ALL HAIL BLADE!

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Besides me, that is the last thing everyone wants. They all dislike me already, god forbid i take someone under my wing

If you did that I think we'd hunt you down and beat you over the head with your keyboard

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Alan, if your good i understand totally. Ive had many many times where i drove a lynch and was wrong. But you have to understand i saw my top suspect be one of the major reasons a certain person was lynched and blow it off fairly non-chalantly...im willing to see both sides of your case, but you have to be open to seeing both of mine

I didn't push anyone to vote him. I put my vote on him and said my reason why. I was not the one campaigning for people to lynch Chief because we had to lynch someone. I was not one of the people who put my vote on there for no reason.

I will continue to try to put as much thought into my vote every day and give my reason why for it when I can. Like I said, I voted him based on past experience with how he acted with me. I was wrong, life goes on.

[SnDvls]

what are you all "right" about?
that he wasn't on the side of dark?

I think many people stated that today.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Come on DC, i was right too...dont i get a comment about my ability??

Do I need to? I've said it plenty in other games

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Do I need to? I've said it plenty in other games

Oh, in public...but we all saw ant's song, i know what you say in private to your husband


Much love DC

[st.cronin]

I would like everybody who was online and who read my indictment of Lathum yet did not vote for him, to explain why not.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I would like everybody who was online and who read my indictment of Lathum yet did not vote for him, to explain why not.

Umm... I skimmed through the past few pages to get caught up. What post number specifically?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I would like everybody who was online and who read my indictment of Lathum yet did not vote for him, to explain why not.

Post #?

I can tell you myself the reason i didnt vote lathum is that lathum isnt acting like he does when he is bad usually in my mind. Hes playing like the lathum i got in fights with when we were both good, not the one we beat at the last second in the small game just now.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I would like everybody who was online and who read my indictment of Lathum yet did not vote for him, to explain why not.

I felt moving my vote that late after being on Chief the entire time would be viewed very poorly in the case that Chief ended up bad. I think it would have looked poorly for me to sit on Chief after giving detailed thought and reason into my vote on the forum all day and then at the last minute switch to try to get out of the accountability for my actions.

I don't really feel any worse about Lathum than I do any number of people in the game right now, however I felt bad about chief for the personal interaction reasons.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I voted for him because he suggested that there was an unsuccesful conversion. This could mean

- the forces of darkness tried to convert him and for some reason failed
- he is in league with the forces of darkness, and is trying to confuse us with rumors
- he is a witness and has some knowledge of night activities
- he has no idea what happened last night and is just taking a WAG

Cases 1 and 3 he would be better served to just tell us "this happened last night." Case 2 he is a good lynch, case 4, well, who knows. I voted for him, but I'm not sold on the lynch.

Found it, nevermind.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by St. Cronin

I voted for him because he suggested that there was an unsuccesful conversion. This could mean

- the forces of darkness tried to convert him and for some reason failed
- he is in league with the forces of darkness, and is trying to confuse us with rumors
- he is a witness and has some knowledge of night activities
- he has no idea what happened last night and is just taking a WAG

Cases 1 and 3 he would be better served to just tell us "this happened last night." Case 2 he is a good lynch, case 4, well, who knows. I voted for him, but I'm not sold on the lynch.

1.No reason for him not to tell us, unless he is the turncoat..not likely to me
2.Id say its more becuase he tried it and failed then this, but possible
3.He would tell us
4.Lathum is eccentric, so i wouldnt say this isnt an option

I told you why i didnt vote him, and none of the reasons you presented put him before alan on my list.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I voted for him because he suggested that there was an unsuccesful conversion. This could mean

- the forces of darkness tried to convert him and for some reason failed
- he is in league with the forces of darkness, and is trying to confuse us with rumors
- he is a witness and has some knowledge of night activities
- he has no idea what happened last night and is just taking a WAG

Cases 1 and 3 he would be better served to just tell us "this happened last night." Case 2 he is a good lynch, case 4, well, who knows. I voted for him, but I'm not sold on the lynch.

Here it is. Lathum's response has been to attack Tyrith.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I voted for him, but I'm not sold on the lynch.

That's not a ringing endorsement to me. Why should I have swung my vote to Lathum is you weren't even sold on it?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

That's not a ringing endorsement to me. Why should I have swung my vote to Lathum is you weren't even sold on it?

Because there wasn't even a BAD reason to vote for CR, as was pointed out by several people.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Because there wasn't even a BAD reason to vote for CR, as was pointed out by several people.

cronin, so would you have wanted a no-lynch tonight instead of lynching a villager? I mean doesn't getting CR lynched leave us with something to work on for the future?

That was my reason for voting for Chief.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

cronin, so would you have wanted a no-lynch tonight instead of lynching a villager? I mean doesn't getting CR lynched leave us with something to work on for the future?

That was my reason for voting for Chief.

I'm pretty sure St.Cronin said many times he would rather us lynch no body than a good guy

[BrianD]

Can't say tonight was too much of a surprise. With our luck last night, there probably aren't a whole lot of dark people left to hit. Hopefully we'll learn a bit more tomorrow.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I'm pretty sure St.Cronin said many times he would rather us lynch no body than a good guy

Oh he did, my bad. I remember someone saying it but couldn't remember who it was.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Can't say tonight was too much of a surprise. With our luck last night, there probably aren't a whole lot of dark people left to hit. Hopefully we'll learn a bit more tomorrow.

Last night we lost the herbalist...im assuming you mean the lynch, in which case i would say i think we have more bad guys then most people think considering they want to kill each other too

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

cronin, so would you have wanted a no-lynch tonight instead of lynching a villager? I mean doesn't getting CR lynched leave us with something to work on for the future?

That was my reason for voting for Chief.

The only problem is that we don't have a ton to work with. I think Alan's reason was pretty much valid...saldana and lathum I'm not as sure about, but it wasn't some huge war or anything we can take definitive action from. Instead we're just left feeling kinda icky.

Lathum is still on my suspect list for tomorrow...he's been bad enough lately that he is certainly capable of learning new tricks. Beyond that I don't know.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

cronin, so would you have wanted a no-lynch tonight instead of lynching a villager? I mean doesn't getting CR lynched leave us with something to work on for the future?

That was my reason for voting for Chief.

Not when there's a mass of players voting for Chief because "WE HAVE TO LYNCH SOMEBODY." How do you pick through those votes?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Not when there's a mass of players voting for Chief because "WE HAVE TO LYNCH SOMEBODY." How do you pick through those votes?

How do you pick through votes when no one is lynched?

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Last night we lost the herbalist...im assuming you mean the lynch, in which case i would say i think we have more bad guys then most people think considering they want to kill each other too

Yes, I meant the lynch. We get the results at night which is what I meant by "last night".

The bad guys do want to kill each other too, but there can't be too many or it would be easy for them to overrun the villagers.

[Lathum]

I think St.Cronin jumping on me because I suggested there was a failed conversion is very wolfish.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

How do you pick through votes when no one is lynched?

You don't, but you have another warm body at least.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I think St.Cronin jumping on me because I suggested there was a failed conversion is very wolfish.

You seem to think anyone making any sort of actual argument against you is wolfish today.

[BrianD]

Is anyone else having trouble keeping track of who has been backing who in this game? I am having a bear of a time keeping these side-squabbles straight.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

How do you pick through votes when no one is lynched?

If Chief Rum had not been lynched, we would be +1 villager. Ask yourself this: Are the forces of evil happy he was lynched, or would they have preferred a no lynch? The answer is really obvious.