1973 Off-season Thread

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by muns

Sigh........ that is horrible, that drives me nuts!!!! How the heck does a guy play for "X" amount of years at 2nd base and then no longer can play that position......

[kaosfere]

Ok, watching these reports roll in is more exciting than it has any right to be.

*bated breath*

[muns]

Originally Posted by graygoose12

I considered offering close to $18-20 million per year.

WOW!!!! you glad you didnt???

[Young Drachma]

Fernando Spindola signed a 3-year deal worth $4.695 million with New York

Elliott Richard signed a 3-year deal worth $8.715 million with Texas

Ben Harris signed a 4-year deal worth $30.36 million with New York

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by kaosfere

Ok, watching these reports role in is more exciting than it has any right to be.

*bated breath*

Just wait for Friday night when the entire regular season is done in one night and you watch your team right on the edge of winning before it all slips away while you sit there knowing there is nothing you can do but watch it all go down in flames... that is where the real fun is!

[muns]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

HA HA good old CHUCK.... Thanks for reminding me about him.... That was a strange case..... But you know what i mean game wise

[graygoose12]

Originally Posted by muns

WOW!!!! you glad you didnt???

He was going to be the one piece I was going to go after. I had a lot of cap space, with my financials set for a few years.

Instead I changed my mind and tried to land 4 lesser pieces.

[muns]

Originally Posted by kaosfere

Ok, watching these reports roll in is more exciting than it has any right to be.

*bated breath*

You really did pick a great time to come in. This is a huge offseason!

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by graygoose12

I considered offering close to $18-20 million per year.

Good Gawd. That's a lotta money.

What's the highest someone has been paid so far for a year in FOOL? Anyone know?

Miyahara woulda gotten $16 M this past season if I let him (I didn't).

[kaosfere]

Spindola went for a bit more than I thought he would. Hope that doesn't bode ill for my other offers.

[Alan T]

For the record I hated Steve Sax... I still do... and Pedro Guerrero and Steve Garvey.....

Jay Johnstone was ok though because he was funny.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by muns

HA HA good old CHUCK.... Thanks for reminding me about him.... That was a strange case..... But you know what i mean game wise

I do. But I did find it funny that as soon as I read your post, my mind immediately flashes to Knoblauch and Sax. And they were both second basemen, too.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by kaosfere

Spindola went for a bit more than I thought he would. Hope that doesn't bode ill for my other offers.

Well, he probably got over a million per year on name recognition alone (man, how the mighty have fallen).

[graygoose12]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Good Gawd. That's a lotta money.

What's the highest someone has been paid so far for a year in FOOL? Anyone know?

Miyahara woulda gotten $16 M this past season if I let him (I didn't).

When you're in second place for a few years, and the team that plays just over 200 miles south of you semi falling apart, you have to make a move.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Well, he probably got over a million per year on name recognition alone (man, how the mighty have fallen).

I doubt it since the AI signed him for that

[Young Drachma]

File is packing now. Higman is still on the market.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

For the record I hated Steve Sax... I still do... and Pedro Guerrero and Steve Garvey.....

Jay Johnstone was ok though because he was funny.

Heh...right backatya. Could not stand Templeton or Maddux or Justice or any of those early Braves guys.

Loved the Murphy-Horner Braves, though.

[kaosfere]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Well, he probably got over a million per year on name recognition alone (man, how the mighty have fallen).

Could be. I don't have the benefit/disadvantage of that at this point.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Good Gawd. That's a lotta money.

What's the highest someone has been paid so far for a year in FOOL? Anyone know?

Miyahara woulda gotten $16 M this past season if I let him (I didn't).

I have both Yamazaki and Lang for 17.5 million a season.

On another note I think it would have been hilarious if Higman got that contract as it would have meant that this years 3 highest paid players all played for Brooklyn last year.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Good Gawd. That's a lotta money.

What's the highest someone has been paid so far for a year in FOOL? Anyone know?

Miyahara woulda gotten $16 M this past season if I let him (I didn't).

I paid SP Benny Myers 17 mil for like 6 years and he was the highest paid for his contract... Lotta good that did me

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by graygoose12

When you're in second place for a few years, and the team that plays just over 200 miles south of you semi falling apart, you have to make a move.

Yup, it's a great opportunity, no doubt about it. Of course, I am looking at it as an opportunity, too.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

File is packing now. Higman is still on the market.

Well what freaking fun is that!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Heh...right backatya. Could not stand Templeton or Maddux or Justice or any of those early Braves guys.

Loved the Murphy-Horner Braves, though.

I'm assuming you mean Pendleton instead of Gary Templeton (former Card and Padres SS). I didn't mind the Justice, Ron Gant, Glavine, etc Braves as it was an end to endless suffering for me as an Atlanta fan (not only Braves fan, but Braves, Falcons, Hawks) finally seeing a team actually with a chance to win...

But My number in Softball to this day is still #3 which is what Dale Murphy wore. My all time two favorite baseball players are Murphy and Brett Butler (which to this day is the only time I have ever cried because of baseball was the day Butler was traded from the Braves.. I believe I was 7 years old then).

[Commo_Soldier]

Also it looks like CF Sanchez of TEX is due to make 19.425 million his final year, but he has no incentives. Where as Yamazaki could theoretically make $25 million with incentives in his highest year.

[ekcut]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Post of the year!!!

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I'm assuming you mean Pendleton instead of Gary Templeton (former Card and Padres SS). I didn't mind the Justice, Ron Gant, Glavine, etc Braves as it was an end to endless suffering for me as an Atlanta fan (not only Braves fan, but Braves, Falcons, Hawks) finally seeing a team actually with a chance to win...

But My number in Softball to this day is still #3 which is what Dale Murphy wore. My all time two favorite baseball players are Murphy and Brett Butler (which to this day is the only time I have ever cried because of baseball was the day Butler was traded from the Braves.. I believe I was 7 years old then).

Yup, Pendleton, good catch. Templeton was okay.

I was cool with Gant. Liked his story. I actually did not like Brett Butler at all until he joined the Dodgers. Then seeing him every day made me appreciate him more. He became a guy I liked quite abit.

Of course, this is all from the Dodgers are a distant #2 for me. You think I dislike the early 90s Braves, imagine how I feel about the Bash Brother A's or the ARod-Griffey-Unit M's.

Murphy always struck me as a class guy. As one of the premier celebrity athlete Mormons out there (and devoutly so), Murphy is a little more visible for my family since my brother converted to LDS ten years ago. He (my bro) actually missioned in Boston, hung out with Murph and caught a game with him at Fenway. How about that, eh? Good stuff.

I still feel like Murphy deserves to be in the Hall, even though I know the numbers don't really support it.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I'm assuming you mean Pendleton instead of Gary Templeton (former Card and Padres SS). I didn't mind the Justice, Ron Gant, Glavine, etc Braves as it was an end to endless suffering for me as an Atlanta fan (not only Braves fan, but Braves, Falcons, Hawks) finally seeing a team actually with a chance to win...

But My number in Softball to this day is still #3 which is what Dale Murphy wore. My all time two favorite baseball players are Murphy and Brett Butler (which to this day is the only time I have ever cried because of baseball was the day Butler was traded from the Braves.. I believe I was 7 years old then).

I hated those braves.... Seeing fat ass sid bream crawling around third base gasping for air the entire way, beating the throw home of the great pompus ass barry bonds did me in as a lil kid....... I cried that night... Last time the pirates had a winning season

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by ekcut

Post of the year!!!

lol...muns tossed me a beach ball pitch. I had to swing.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by muns

I hated those braves.... Seeing fat ass sid bream crawling around third base gasping for air the entire way, beating the throw home of the great pompus ass barry bonds did me in as a lil kid....... I cried that night... Last time the pirates had a winning season

Who fatter? Bream or Francisco Cabrera?

[Commo_Soldier]

Glad to see I landed Diaz for so cheap. Now I just hope he will be as dominate a MR as I envision him being.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Glad to see I landed Diaz for so cheap. Now I just hope he will be as dominate a MR as I envision him being.

I think you should trade him to DC for a 4th rounder.

[Young Drachma]

File is up.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Who fatter? Bream or Francisco Cabrera?

You had to go there with Cabrera ...... Good question though. Prob Cabrera, but Bream had the knee brace and all which made him look just as bad IMO... I still cant get off that play

[muns]

DC we still got a lot of guys out there that have yet to sign?

[Young Drachma]

Joey Higman, Ruben Mendoza, AnthonY Zijm, Walt Withcombe, Sancho Lopez, Ivan Garcia, Antonio Aguirre are out there. Patrick Bentley, too.

[graygoose12]

I also signed CF Edgardo Reyes, the 4th player I was targeting.

[muns]

On another note. Nice to see a majority of the league here talking tonight. Its been fun so far!!!

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by muns

DC we still got a lot of guys out there that have yet to sign?

It appears the following potential star players are left
5 - 2 (Higman, Lopez)
4 - 3 (Mendoza, Zijm, Withecombe)
3 - 6
2 1/2 - 10
2 - 17

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Joey Higman, Ruben Mendoza, AnthonY Zijm, Walt Withcombe, Sancho Lopez, Ivan Garcia, Antonio Aguirre are out there. Patrick Bentley, too.

Has Garcia come down from his lofty expectations yet?

Of course, since Bath got his money, it wouldn't surprise me to see Garcia get his.

[Young Drachma]

Here's the salary snapshot.

Rank Team Payroll
1 Atlanta Firecrackers $64,625,530
2 Rio Grande Roadrunners $63,608,900
3 Boston Settlers $62,842,180
4 Colorado Rancheros $62,710,625
5 Compton Brothers $62,242,530
6 El Paso Alligators $61,876,500
7 Valdosta Peanuts $58,628,850
8 Brooklyn Brownstones $57,485,750
9 New York Highlanders $50,781,330
10 Ann Arbor Wolverines $49,466,440
11 Toronto Atlantics $49,098,570
12 Baltimore Terrapins $46,980,350
13 Quad City Thunderstorms $46,766,250
14 Columbus Crusaders $44,458,900
15 Texas Copperheads $44,443,200
16 Hartford Harpooners $36,905,200

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by muns

You had to go there with Cabrera ...... Good question though. Prob Cabrera, but Bream had the knee brace and all which made him look just as bad IMO... I still cant get off that play

Speaking of those Pirates, I always really liked Van Slyke. I was never a fan of his outfield mates, but Van Slyke rocked.

[Commo_Soldier]

Wow what is interesting is it looks like NO ONE offered Higman a contract. Unless he has not received any yet.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by graygoose12

I also signed CF Edgardo Reyes, the 4th player I was targeting.

I was looking to try to figure out where he went. Figures you got him and I get to put up with him killing me this year.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Wow what is interesting is it looks like NO ONE offered Higman a contract. Unless he has not received any yet.

No way, really? That's insane. So everyone was scared away by the expected competition? I find it hard to believe even the AI teams didn't offer him something.

This is going to test muns' willpower big time.

[Commo_Soldier]

On another note I call shenanigans! It appears Yamazaki is being tampered with. Apparently 3 AI teams offered him a contract. Good thing I have him tied down to such a low rate as one of his emails suggest.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Speaking of those Pirates, I always really liked Van Slyke. I was never a fan of his outfield mates, but Van Slyke rocked.

He was my favoite player. Always showed up and played hard. Everyone in Pittsburgh loved the guy. He just looked tough with that big chew he always had in.... Was sad to see him go to St.Louis when he did

[graygoose12]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I was looking to try to figure out where he went. Figures you got him and I get to put up with him killing me this year.

Yeah I am pretty happy where this sim put my team for the upcoming couple of seasons.

I look forward to the season.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No way, really? That's insane. So everyone was scared away by the expected competition? I find it hard to believe even the AI teams didn't offer him something.

This is going to test muns' willpower big time.

I bet goose is feeling great now that he did not offer 18-20 million.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No way, really? That's insane. So everyone was scared away by the expected competition? I find it hard to believe even the AI teams didn't offer him something.

This is going to test muns' willpower big time.

I wasn't scared away by others, but it was more of a case of me needing 5-7 different guys and if I went after him, I would be left with way too many holes in my team.

Obviously he would improve any team he joined, but I had other more pressing needs.

[Cringer]

Up against the cap, with no one of impact signed I am sure. Downloading the file now to see if I even got a scrub. I think I did going by the number up above.