1976 season thread

[kaosfere]

Well, my 8 starting fielders had a combined VORP of 270.3, which was only 4 below that of Valdosta, 40 above that of Atlanta, and 70 above that of Baltimore.

And, yeah, 644 runs for is second only to Valdosta, 573 runs against is second only to Valdosta.

At least I got something right. I blame this one on one of my starters falling so flat on his face he made a mountain in China, on Wiley deciding to let someone else earn Pitcher of the Year, and a little bit of bad luck. And Valdosta kicking ass as usual.

Blah.

It's a tough game.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

again, I have Harmon as a 63.

Different Harmon. He mis-named Sam harmon at first whom is a FOOL famous Catcher bust... He really meant Steven Harmon

[muns]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

again, I have Harmon as a 63.

Thank ya for letting me know, so you have it as a 40 point drop off, I have it as a 70 point drop off.

I didnt realize that we all saw different ratings for guys??

[Young Drachma]

My PVORP 68.7. That explains it.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by muns

Thank ya for letting me know, so you have it as a 40 point drop off, I have it as a 70 point drop off.

I didnt realize that we all saw different ratings for guys??

I've seen it happen.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by kaosfere

Wiley deciding to let someone else earn Pitcher of the Year.

Carlos Gonzales somewhere in the deep south has pinned this quote to his bulletin board.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by muns

Thank ya for letting me know, so you have it as a 40 point drop off, I have it as a 70 point drop off.

I didnt realize that we all saw different ratings for guys??

No, he is looking at Sam Harmon whom you originally listed before you edited it.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

My PVORP 68.7. That explains it.

ya thats not good, youll fix that next year

[muns]

Originally Posted by Alan T

No, he is looking at Sam Harmon whom you originally listed before you edited it.

Ya my bad, Im used to sam.....

[Ramzavail]

ah Sam Harmon, my bad

[Chief Rum]

BTW, haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but the most untalked about success this season is in Long Island, and that concerns me more than most of you probably would think is needed.

Point is, that is still the old Boston there, a very good team, just in a new place. And I know from experience that Anthony knows a heck of a lot about what he is doing. He's going to keep that team in the mix, I have no doubt.

[Alan T]

Someone for Baltimore had a triple play this year.. nice

[Cringer]

Anthony Payton, yes, that Anthony Payton, is on the block. I need pitching, this needs to happen people.

[muns]

Alan over at ootp is it the player development is broken thread that you were referring to?

[kaosfere]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

My PVORP 68.7. That explains it.

Wish it was that easy for me. Mine was 186, which was 20 down from last year, but still not bad.

Some years it's just not your year.

Going to need to be careful to make some changes without overtweaking in response to this.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by muns

Alan over at ootp is it the player development is broken thread that you were referring to?

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To be fair though, we have no idea how his development occured over the season. Markus is saying there is no way this can happen in a week, which may very well be true.. but Steven clearly bombed this year on you, and based on the stats I'm wondering if this was in the cards last year or not.

[Cringer]

Where do you see team VORP?

[kaosfere]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Carlos Gonzales somewhere in the deep south has pinned this quote to his bulletin board.

I have a feeling they'll be duking it out for several years to come.

[kaosfere]

Originally Posted by Cringer

Where do you see team VORP?

Go to your team's history, then click on the year of the stats your interested in.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Nah. I don't think it can work that way. That team was build for his strategy and his methodology. I think you can try it, but it won't work. I know a few years ago, I tried to mimic his offensive strategy. But it didn't work for my team and we were way under my expectations.

You just can't do it. You have to build a team that plays the way you wanna play or at least, build a team that will conform and play ahead of what the standard for the rest of the league is.

OOTP has matured to the point where there is enough grey area for you to say "well, he just didn't have a good year" rather than "his ratings were broke."

I think that's an excellent thing.

What I love is that there is more than one way to win in this league. Some things that Alan does is familiar to me, because I do them. And some are familiar to me because I have heard of those strategies and rejected them. And, of course, he also does some seriously ingenious stuff, too, that are just out of left field to me, and they're just terrific. Love the way his mind works with this stuff (and he expresses it well verbally, too--no one I would rather read in a thread about OOTP strategy than Alan, anywhere, really).

All that said, I don't really do it much Alan's way--and I have success, too. And I think that's great. It really adds to things. I can tell DC does it his own way, too, and it's different from mine and Alan's. There are probably 16 ways to run a team in this league, one for each owner, and we all have thew ability to make that strategy a success.

Don't expect me to spell out my strategy like Alan, though, at least not all in one place. He's good enough to tell you what he does and still beat you. I'm under no such delusions.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Cringer

On July 15th, Tanaka hit his 400th homerun.

On July 13th he had his 2500th hit.

Was that in one series? Nice series for him, if so. Hope it was at home for the fans.

[Young Drachma]

RF Mac Rasmussen is on the trade block.

[Alan T]

I was thinking Jesus Flores might have had a good enough year to get a Rookie of the Year award for Valdosta, but Jose Gonzales for Texas looks like he probably beats him out for that.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Was that in one series? Nice series for him, if so. Hope it was at home for the fans.

I hadn't even checked actually. Turns out it was in two series, neither at home. The hit came in...Atlanta. The HR in Baltimore.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Alan T

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To be fair though, we have no idea how his development occured over the season. Markus is saying there is no way this can happen in a week, which may very well be true.. but Steven clearly bombed this year on you, and based on the stats I'm wondering if this was in the cards last year or not.

His stats were bad last year, but it was his first year playing in a platoon. Easy for one to reason. Think he would bounce back, and he does. His stats are way better than expected for a 36 contact hitter... Hitting 256 ill take it.

My issue is with him dropping 70 ratings points. That screams its broken as no sim should have that in a game at all. People can cry and scream that it happens in real life with Justin Verlander and yada yada yada, but then others can give examples of a CC sabathia this year as well.

There has been huge jumps in ratings this year or drops as ive just noted. Anyone else notice anything on thier own teams.

MCgill on my team jumped up 20 points in HR during the season. Thats a huge jump IMO.....

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Stan Miller of Atlanta broke the FOOL record for saves in a season with 51. The previous record of 50 was set by Aaron Daily in 1969, whom was with Compton at the time.

I guess that was a good decision then. It's like my own Frankie Rodriguez. And 51 saves for an 87 win team (I think)? That's incredible.

Joe Hart of Colorado tied the FOOL record for complete games with 13, which was previously set by Ricardo Torres of Valdosta in 1967.

First time ever for me to see a player from Colorado and say to myself, "Who the F is that?!?"

I guess the Rancheros are truly no longer my team.

[Ramzavail]

who signed these bums to super long and expensive deals, I wanna string em up

Guterriez and Herrera

[kaosfere]

Oh, Mr Commish?

Could I get you to give Maresuke Saito the nickname "Dead Man Walking"?

Doubly appropriate, given his general collapse, and his 4.2 BB/9 this year.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

It looks like Steven imploded. His actual stats from last season kind of go in line with a 36 contact rating though.. but this is one of those things that Markus locked a thread on the OOTP forums just today because it doesn't happen in OOTP anymore

That freakin' sucks. It's even worse because he was a guy muns really focused on getting in the Barajas deal.

It would open just too huge a can of worms, but in some other ideal world, I would say, screw that, and reset his currents to what he had at the start of last season.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Different Harmon. He mis-named Sam harmon at first whom is a FOOL famous Catcher bust... He really meant Steven Harmon

Maybe this bust trend is a Harmon thing?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by muns

His stats were bad last year, but it was his first year playing in a platoon. Easy for one to reason. Think he would bounce back, and he does. His stats are way better than expected for a 36 contact hitter... Hitting 256 ill take it.

My issue is with him dropping 70 ratings points. That screams its broken as no sim should have that in a game at all. People can cry and scream that it happens in real life with Justin Verlander and yada yada yada, but then others can give examples of a CC sabathia this year as well.

There has been huge jumps in ratings this year or drops as ive just noted. Anyone else notice anything on thier own teams.

MCgill on my team jumped up 20 points in HR during the season. Thats a huge jump IMO.....

I uhh.. had a guy that had a +56 in stuff this season according to OOTp's scouting report... But like I said in a previous thread on here.. that scouting report is on crack.. It isn't accurate alot of the time in my opinion. But I don't have any "proof" to give me enough reason to try to convince folks over at ootp

[muns]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That freakin' sucks. It's even worse because he was a guy muns really focused on getting in the Barajas deal.

It would open just too huge a can of worms, but in some other ideal world, I would say, screw that, and reset his currents to what he had at the start of last season.

Na im not worried about it, I was irritated, and then I read that he closed a thread saying that nothing was wrong it made it even worse.

I got other guys ill suck it up, but when you loose a race by 2 games, and your leadoff hitter drops 70 points in contact.... ya tough to swallow

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Maybe this bust trend is a Harmon thing?

Quietly, somewhere in Connecticut, muns tries to ship Doug Harmon out of town.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by kaosfere

Wish it was that easy for me. Mine was 186, which was 20 down from last year, but still not bad.

Some years it's just not your year.

Going to need to be careful to make some changes without overtweaking in response to this.

You guys had some great stat threads while I was out of the league. I tried to follow it, but didn't quite succeed. How does one figure this out again?

[muns]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I uhh.. had a guy that had a +56 in stuff this season according to OOTp's scouting report... But like I said in a previous thread on here.. that scouting report is on crack.. It isn't accurate alot of the time in my opinion. But I don't have any "proof" to give me enough reason to try to convince folks over at ootp

lol ya im not using the scouting report, like you said thats been broke as heck and its not really worth trying to sort though IMO. Im just talking about guys actual ratings on the player page...

[muns]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

who signed these bums to super long and expensive deals, I wanna string em up

Guterriez and Herrera

OUCH!!! Ya thats tough. AI maybe, I wouldnt think the previous owner would do that. Not a good way to start a rebuild job for sure

[kaosfere]

Other interesting items:

Compton gave up two cycles, one to Arthur Summers of Hartford, and one to Earl Cronie of New Orleans. This is the first multiple-cycle season a team has had since Columbus gave up 3 in '71.

Joey Higman had a 24-game hitting streak, tied with Rick Inman in '68 for fourth longest ever. (1975 was probably the best single year in history, with a 25 and a 26 game streak, although Ed Wilson's 28 games way back in '61 is still the record.)

[Young Drachma]

You can release them, Ramz.

[Chief Rum]

Wow, big time congrats to Rich Haas and his 1976 CL Batting Crown.

He certainly always had the ability to do it, but there are a lot of guys like this, so you never expect it from any one player. I guess he now officially becomes one of the best bargains in the biz (but boy will he be asking for a lot this offseason to come back...)

[Cringer]

So the 4 Rio Grande rookies, were they the fall of the team? It seems no is the answer to this question, the problems were elsewhere it seems. My strategy is probably one reason. When I tinker there, my team does poorly. Bench players stunk for the most part as well, and my pitching had a VORP of 66 it seems, so they stunk as well. The rookies had mixed results but mostly good.

SP Pablo Guerrero - What can I say. The 20 year old came in and was my only pitcher to really do anything. Only guy with double digit wins, going 17-8 with a 3.02 ERA and 152 Ks and a 36.3 VORP. He was amazing compared to the rest of the team. The bad news for him is as of right now he is the #1 SP next year now. He is doomed!!!!

SP Tynan Johnson - The worst of the 4 I guess. 5-16 with an ERA of 5.74. His VORP was -26 or something. Yikes. The bad news for him is he might get to repeat this horrible season next year. Doomed as well!!!!

OF Stanley Patterson - Wow, surprise here. Patterson led my team in hitting with a .304 AVG. The .329 OBP was more of what I expected, heck even better I guess. He finished with a VORP of 18.0, and even though his ratings didn't seem to move he will be back again next year for sure.

SS George Stewart - Mixed results here. His ratings actually improved, so he will probably get another chance. The .233 BA wasn't real hot though and his negative VORP hurt the team, especially considering that Jones was benched for him and Jones finished with an 8 VORP (16 higher then Stewart) in less then 200 ABs.

[kaosfere]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow, big time congrats to Rich Haas and his 1976 CL Batting Crown.

Yeah. I think he's going to be first on my list of regrets for that other thread.

[muns]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow, big time congrats to Rich Haas and his 1976 CL Batting Crown.

He certainly always had the ability to do it, but there are a lot of guys like this, so you never expect it from any one player. I guess he now officially becomes one of the best bargains in the biz (but boy will he be asking for a lot this offseason to come back...)

That is a neat story right there

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Oh.. get to face Juan Reyes in the FOOL Classic.. story of a happy 1 star second baseman that I gave a chance, taught him how to play big league ball, made him a star and then slammed the door on his butt as he left town because we wouldn't give him a $13mil a year deal. ugh!

Ruben Mendoza gets his chance to get revenge on me too..

Oh Ken Connolly and Pat Bentley are two other long time Valdosta players coming back to face us also.. Looks like half of my old team! Will be a familiar site for them at our ballpark.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by kaosfere

Yeah. I think he's going to be first on my list of regrets for that other thread.

+1

[kaosfere]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Freakin Bob Arnold wants $36 million to resign with me.. Someone should explain to him exactly how little worth 1st basemen are in this league.

Higman wants $71,760,000 over four years.

I was hoping he'd come back to his senses after this one year, but I don't think he's going to be re-signed for that much.

[Cringer]

Ok, I need to head to bed. I have to leave to coach the kids soccer team in 7 hours.

[kaosfere]

Night, Cringer!

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by kaosfere

Yeah. I think he's going to be first on my list of regrets for that other thread.

Technically, he could be one I put up in that thread, too, you know.

Or does it no longer count, since I got him back.

[Young Drachma]

Doesn't count, you got him back. That's a great story, though.

[Chief Rum]

Okay, I'm going to sound like a crazy fanboy here, but honestly, does anyone here truly realize just how crazy great Edgardo Reyes is? I mean, the guy stole 71 bases this year at 33! Four straight years of 50+ SBs at this age. Six years 100+ runs scored or more. He has never had lower than an .800 OPS or a .279 AVG, and he has 7 .300-plus seasons in 11 years. He has four seasons of .400+ OBP, and he had 71--71!--doubles in 1971. Kinda like he said, "Hey, I'm going to get the same number of doubles this year as the year." 20 triples that same year, too.

He also has three rings, and four trips to the Classic.

And his ratings are still freakin' great. Unbelievable.