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Old 10-22-2022, 02:40 PM   #901
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Has anyone checked up on Tarcone to make sure he's okay?
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Old 10-22-2022, 02:45 PM   #902
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Sack and fumble, that's number eight for Miami.
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Old 10-22-2022, 03:25 PM   #903
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Miami's last 5 possessions after taking a 21-17 lead:

Turnover on Downs
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I have never seen a team turn the ball over eight times

Plus twice more on downs
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Old 10-22-2022, 04:44 PM   #904
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It was just fun to watch a them in a big time college football game again.

When I was a student there Donovan McNabb was beating Temple and Rutgers by 50 during the early part of the season, and then they'd blow it in bizarre fashion against Miami or Virginia Tech or a big non-conference opponent like Tennessee later in the season. Those games felt a lot like this one.
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Old 10-22-2022, 05:03 PM   #905
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Pretty good Ole Miss vs LSU game

EDIT: wow, nice one handed interception by LSU in the red zone

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Old 10-22-2022, 05:43 PM   #906
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Doesn't look like we are going to have to worry about 4 one loss SEC teams/
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Old 10-22-2022, 05:48 PM   #907
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Ole Miss got exposed, which was kind of always a possibility.

If they can't run, they're screwed. And while I ain't sold on Dart at all, this one goes mostly on a OL that couldn't have blocked my mother today.

And their defense has just been looking for a place to get exposed fully all year anyway.
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Old 10-22-2022, 06:16 PM   #908
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I was reffing BB today. Looked exactly like I thought it would. Defense outscores the offense again.

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Old 10-22-2022, 06:37 PM   #909
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The thing I didn't expect was 6 Iowa turnovers. That's ... not who they usually are, to put it mildly.

BTW the take from the Michigan homers is 'Stroud didn't look very good against Iowa, made a bunch of mistakes. We're going to thump OSU, look what we did to Penn State.' I'm a Michigan guy, and I almost want us to lose big now because of these kinds of fans. There's a real aspect of 'Hah! We beat the Buckeyes last year, it's a new era of Michigan football dominance!'

Slow down there turbo. On balance, I still have Ohio State in that one.

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Old 10-22-2022, 07:14 PM   #910
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West Virginia with their biggest loss since 1950, losing to unranked Texas Tech 48-10. I don’t expect us to be battling for the playoffs every year, but this has been awful. Especially with teams like TTech, Kansas St, TCU, and Kansas with 1st and 2nd year coaches looking worlds better than us in year 4 with Neal Brown.
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Old 10-22-2022, 07:16 PM   #911
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West Virginia with their biggest loss since 1950, losing to unranked Texas Tech 48-10. I donít expect us to be battling for the playoffs every year, but this has been awful. Especially with teams like TTech, Kansas St, TCU, and Kansas with 1st and 2nd year coaches looking worlds better than us in year 4 with Neal Brown.

I'm not sure how they could possibly justify bringing him back for another year but there really isn't anyone out there that excites me as a replacement.
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Old 10-22-2022, 07:55 PM   #912
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Exactly like you thought it would? Uh huh
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Old 10-22-2022, 10:23 PM   #913
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Looked it up, Duke has now beaten Miami 3 of last 5.

First year for Cristobal so have to cut him some slack.
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Old 10-22-2022, 11:41 PM   #914
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Jimbo Fisher better be sending Jameis Winston Christmas and birthday gifts every year, because without him, he's an offensive coordinator at East Carolina right now instead of having $90 million+ in guaranteed money losing 4+ games at A&M.

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Old 10-22-2022, 11:44 PM   #915
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It's delicious. Although he recruited a super team with like 20 NFL players on the 2013 team. Ramsey and James in the secondary alone is ridiculous.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:47 AM   #916
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The Hogs beat BYU last week so this hurts our SoS, but congrats to Liberty.

EDIT: uh oh. Just realized the Hogs meet Liberty in week after next.

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Old 10-23-2022, 04:47 PM   #917
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Last time tOSU beat Iowa that badly was 1975. Everything about this season screams 1975.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:24 PM   #918
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I want to know who the person was who was convinced by the Syracuse game to put Clemson #1.

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Old 10-23-2022, 10:39 PM   #919
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I want to know who the person was who was convinced by the Syracuse game to put Clemson #1.

According to this site, Jon Wilner - San Jose Mercury News is your guy

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Old 10-23-2022, 10:55 PM   #920
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Thanks. Now I'm even more confused.

Had Clemson at #4 after they beat Wake. Beating NC State bumped them up to #2. Beating Florida State by six and Syracuse by six, second one a game they should have lost, convinces you they are #1. Georgia and Ohio State did less the last two weeks? One of those wins was better than Tennessee beating Alabama (had Tennessee at #1 previously)?

My brain can't compute this.
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Old 10-24-2022, 10:38 AM   #921
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Could there be some body of work stuff going on? Most but not everyone does the beauty pageant thing where we just look at how a team has done the last couple of weeks to move a team up or down. But there are a handful of writers who have a more complicated system.

Like are Ohio State's or Georgia's or Alabama's strength of schedule going down while Clemson's is going up? Even though both Alabama did the typical SEC thing of one real game and 3 total cream puffs to go along with only 8 conference games, the Texas win is holding up ok-ish. Georgia's Oregon win just keeps looking better. Ohio State's Notre Dame win, well, hm... not so hot.

That said, I don't see anything really propping Clemson up. Syracuse's win against Purdue looks a bit better. But it's not like the ACC, as a whole, is suddenly looking stronger.

This is a lot of words to agree and say "Yeah, no idea."

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Old 10-24-2022, 10:59 AM   #922
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Wilner explains

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*** Clemson jumped into the top spot following its victory over Syracuse which, this year, counts as a quality win.

The result elevates the Tigersí overall body of work: They have three wins over teams in the latest AP poll and four over teams with winning records.

*** Tennessee dropped one rung, to No. 2, despite its dominating victory over Tennessee-Martin.

Like Clemson, the Volunteers also possess a first-class resume, although the value of their early-season win over Pittsburgh decreased with the Panthersí loss this weekend to Louisville.

AP top-25 ballot: Clemson is No. 1, followed by Tennessee and Georgia
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Old 10-24-2022, 11:01 AM   #923
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Lol @ me as I totally forgot to include Tennessee because I'm just assuming they're going to trip up somewhere along the way

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Old 10-24-2022, 12:39 PM   #924
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I can only assume he doesn't care how the team won those games, only that they won. I find it hard to call a game in which you turn the ball over 4 times at home and are down by 11 after three quarters a 'quality win'.

Apparently he doesn't. All those wins are by 6-10 points. Give Clemson credit for winning them, sure. But what it tells me is Clemson is barely better than those teams.
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Old 10-24-2022, 12:50 PM   #925
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I can only assume he doesn't care how the team won those games, only that they won. I find it hard to call a game in which you turn the ball over 4 times at home and are down by 11 after three quarters a 'quality win'.

Apparently he doesn't. All those wins are by 6-10 points. Give Clemson credit for winning them, sure. But what it tells me is Clemson is barely better than those teams.

At some point it ends up being "by degrees" though. That "dominating" win by Tennessee on Saturday featured them giving up just shy of 400 yards to UT-Martin. Granted, as lesser opponents go they're better than average but even with backups in the secondary, that's a lot of yards to be giving up if you're a legitimate #2 - #4 team in the country

Simiarly, tOSU's offensive output was less than eyepopping for most of the day on Saturday. And UGAg's issue are pretty well documented.

I don't think Clemson would better than upper mid-table in the B12 this year ... but frankly ain't nobody looking truly great to this point either
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Old 10-24-2022, 12:58 PM   #926
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Oh I agree with all of that, but I think it's obvious that the issues Clemson has had and the issues Georgia and Ohio State have had for example are not even in the same area code. It's almost never the case that there's a team that goes out and destroys everybody. At the same time you can see patterns.

The biggest thing to me though is giving them positive credit for something like the Syracuse game. That's the kind of game that to my mind you have to look at as a blemish on a top team's body of work. It's not one that enhances it.
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Old 10-24-2022, 01:42 PM   #927
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I think it was a positive. They got smacked by a previously-undefeated team (though one that hadn't played a top 20 team yet), lost the turnover battle badly, made adjustments at halftime and took control of the game, running for nearly 300 yards. Syracuse didn't even threaten to score in the second half.

We shouldn't get too consumed by the score.

So what do you do when teams plays such widely variant schedules? Look at Oregon. Class of the Pac-12 now, that's clear. But when they went up against Georgia, it wasn't pretty. Ohio State hasn't played anyone tougher than Notre Dame, which isn't the same Notre Dame as last year. Michigan has dominated every game, but the scores don't all reflect that, plus their non-conference schedule ended up being laughable, for once.

It takes 10-12 games before you get a good picture of all of this. I find myself uninterested in the rankings themselves at this point. Why even try and separate Michigan and Ohio State when they play each other in a month?

It's easy to imagine the scenario at the end with three one-loss SEC teams all in the playoff, despite one not playing in the SEC championship. That seems to be the bigger problem. Maybe they all deserve to considered playoff-worthy. Once the playoff door was opened, the lack of a balanced schedule made it a beauty contest regardless.

If we need to settle all this, then let's drop the pretensions that this is an amateur sport, pay the players, get a CBA, and draw up a new league with a balanced schedule, no more non-power-five opponents, and do it properly.
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Old 10-24-2022, 02:12 PM   #928
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I agree that it will mostly sort itself out. I'm not overly exercised by the rankings in general.

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I think it was a positive. They got smacked by a previously-undefeated team (though one that hadn't played a top 20 team yet), lost the turnover battle badly, made adjustments at halftime and took control of the game, running for nearly 300 yards. Syracuse didn't even threaten to score in the second half.

Depends on who you are comparing them against. If we're talking about Clemson being 15th or something, yes. They played well in the second half, but it's getting themselves in that position in the first place, at home, that is problematic. That more than wipes out any measure of playing better in the second half. It's overall as bad a showing as any Top 5 team has had in any game. .02

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Old 10-24-2022, 03:07 PM   #929
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Old 10-24-2022, 03:30 PM   #930
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:21 PM   #932
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Old 10-29-2022, 08:30 AM   #933
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Hogs vs Auburn. The line is Hogs by 3. Both at SEC 1-3.

Also just noticed that our leading rusher "Rocket" Sanders is at #9 for rushing yards. 7 games for 870 yards, so 124 per game average. Pretty decent all things considered.
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Coastal Carolina travels to West Virginia to play Marshall for the first time tonight at 7:00 on NFL Network. They had a week off after their first loss of the season, hopefully that's given they some time to regroup.
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Old 10-29-2022, 01:01 PM   #935
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Oh those early ACC games.

Scintillating football lemme tell ya.
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Old 10-29-2022, 01:11 PM   #936
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Miami baseball is traditionally pretty good, but have underperformed as of late. I'm glad to see they got a 3 run homer to take an early lead over Virginia.
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Old 10-29-2022, 01:27 PM   #937
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Miami baseball is traditionally pretty good, but have underperformed as of late. I'm glad to see they got a 3 run homer to take an early lead over Virginia.

Yeah, but the middle innings relief is shaky
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Old 10-29-2022, 01:34 PM   #938
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Hogs vs Auburn. The line is Hogs by 3. Both at SEC 1-3.

Also just noticed that our leading rusher "Rocket" Sanders is at #9 for rushing yards. 7 games for 870 yards, so 124 per game average. Pretty decent all things considered.

Nice 76 yard run by Sanders. 171 yards so far in 3Q

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Old 10-29-2022, 01:52 PM   #939
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Go Penn State!

Hogs are doing a good job running the ball. Hogs up 31-13 and threatening again

EDIT: 38-13. Time to bring in QB2 with about 7 min to play

EDIT: damnit, KJ is still in. Our QB2 need experience

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Penn State takes the lead in the fourth quarter. Six plays later (three OSU plays, a PSU run, a sack/fumble, one more OSU play), Ohio State has two touchdowns and looks good for 8-0.
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Old 10-29-2022, 02:59 PM   #941
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Neal Brown is so bad I'm not completely against bringing Rich Rod back at this point.

And Shane Lyons needs to go as well. Every sport except baseball has gotten worse with him running the athletic department.

Lets not listen to Saban on hiring decisions anymore.
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Old 10-29-2022, 04:04 PM   #942
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Good game by the Hogs. We did bring in QB2 in next series and promptly got like 3 penalties. Expect to get a couple more votes for Top-25 but we’ll have to beat Liberty and LSU before we have a real shot.
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Old 10-29-2022, 05:10 PM   #943
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That was enough for me to knock Ohio State off of the #1 spot. I'm back in 'Georgia, I guess?' but who really knows territory.
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Old 10-29-2022, 05:18 PM   #944
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So....Oklahoma State is #9 in what category exactly?
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Old 10-29-2022, 05:22 PM   #945
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Yeah, saw that. They being taken out to the woodshed.

They did beat Baylor and Texas, and didn't lose too badly to TCU.
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Old 10-29-2022, 05:29 PM   #946
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Wake Forest had 5 TOs all season. They had 6 TOs in the THIRD QUARTER ALONE and gave up 35 points to Louisville. It's 48-14.
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Old 10-29-2022, 05:39 PM   #947
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Illinois may not have an impressive offense, but their defense has showed up every game. The way they're going, they could well represent the West even with two losses (which assumes they lose to Michigan).

Ofc not having Penn State or Ohio State on the schedule helps, but still.

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Old 10-29-2022, 05:44 PM   #948
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Iowa with a season-high 33 against Northwestern. Ohio State gets Northwestern next week. Could hit triple figures.
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Old 10-29-2022, 09:03 PM   #949
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Michigan has fieldgoalitis. Probably good enough for today, but it'll be a problem if they play like this against better teams.
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Old 10-29-2022, 09:09 PM   #950
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They'll be down 28-16 to OSU in the third if they try that in Columbus.
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