1971 Off-season Thread (Pre-Draft file is up!) - Page 2

Alan T · 08-10-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Didn't toronto make a ton of trades last night?

Yeah, I kind of was wondering about that.. I was afraid to open up a can of worms though by asking what happened...

JimmyOOTP · 08-10-2008, 07:36 PM

Something has to be done about people destroying their teams and then leaving. Like if the trades made sense then fine but toronto dismantled that team literally to the ground and then quits in less then 24 hours after doing so?

JimmyOOTP · 08-10-2008, 07:36 PM

We'll i made a trade with him and i opened the can of worms for the sake of the leagues future.

muns · 08-10-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Something has to be done about people destroying their teams and then leaving. Like if the trades made sense then fine but toronto dismantled that team literally to the ground and then quits in less then 24 hours after doing so?

He did it honestly, I had a Pm from him offering me a deal, and I was still recovering from the redskins game, and I told him Id look at it later..... and by the time I got back around to it, other deals had been made....

So i suspect it wasnt a lets trade off all my guys then quit thing, something prob came up or something

Chief Rum · 08-10-2008, 07:39 PM

Yeah, I kinda see what Alan and Jimmy are talking about. This seems really odd with all the trades he pulled off the past couple days.

Chief Rum · 08-10-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by muns

He did it honestly, I had a Pm from him offering me a deal, and I was still recovering from the redskins game, and I told him Id look at it later..... and by the time I got back around to it, other deals had been made....

So i suspect it wasnt a lets trade off all my guys then quit thing, something prob came up or something

I think the question is then if should know more details about why he left? The heavy into it trading immediately followed by the league is, well, weird, or more than a little disturbing. DC, Dizzy is a personal friend of yours whom you work with, right? Can you give us more insight on that?

Tell leaving came out of left field for me, too.

JimmyOOTP · 08-10-2008, 07:42 PM

Yeah i didn't get my catcher from him cheap either and it took some good negotiations but im just wondering if theres something we should be doing to protect teams out there so that it won't be to hard to get replacements. Like if some dude made either one or a few questionable trades and then quit, i think all trades from this team in the last 48 hours or so should be turned back.

Chief Rum · 08-10-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Yeah i didn't get my catcher from him cheap either and it took some good negotiations but im just wondering if theres something we should be doing to protect teams out there so that it won't be to hard to get replacements. Like if some dude made either one or a few questionable trades and then quit, i think all trades from this team in the last 48 hours or so should be turned back.

Buyer's remorse?

Seriously, though, I see what you mean. Not sure I am ready to support your proposition, but I would consider it if it were offered to the league for debate.

Alan T · 08-10-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Yeah i didn't get my catcher from him cheap either and it took some good negotiations but im just wondering if theres something we should be doing to protect teams out there so that it won't be to hard to get replacements. Like if some dude made either one or a few questionable trades and then quit, i think all trades from this team in the last 48 hours or so should be turned back.

I wasn't really implying that he was doing anything underhandedly. I don't feel that the trades he made with you or DC seemed "unfair". I just was caught off guard suddenly at the departure and it got me wondering if something happened that wasn't made public (ie: me being afraid to open up a can of worms).

Alan T · 08-10-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Buyer's remorse?

Seriously, though, I see what you mean. Not sure I am ready to support your proposition, but I would consider it if it were offered to the league for debate.

I am not sure if it is fair to other teams who made the trades in good faith to have them undone after the fact after making other moves with the knowledge of those trades having gone through.

The commish should veto an unfair or unbalanced trade if he feels it is not done in good faith at the time of the transaction. Once it has been made, I think it probably should stand, which takes me back to the comments previously about why I felt it probably was a good decision when DC had decided to be commish only (he didn't end up doing that though).. but my point at the time was for things such as this having an unbiased individual is good. Since it is hard for him to be unbiased about his trade with Toronto previously (which for the record I didn't view as an unfair trade).

JimmyOOTP · 08-10-2008, 07:48 PM

BTW i still need a SP. Hit me up with what you got for sale

JimmyOOTP · 08-10-2008, 07:50 PM

Im a little nervous to go in with Vazquez this year so i need a 4+ star SP and have my first round pick with vazquez AAA and also 3b Woods who is gonna be a great player, he is just blocked atm.

muns · 08-10-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Buyer's remorse?

Seriously, though, I see what you mean. Not sure I am ready to support your proposition, but I would consider it if it were offered to the league for debate.

I wouldnt support it. I wouldnt penalize a legitimate trade that went through just because something might have come up in "real life" with someone else.

I think we can all see and call attention to trades that might have been unfair and then somoneone quit right afterwards.... Neither of his trades were.

im good with just dealing with it when it does happen and im just guessing we would all vote on it like usual

Young Drachma · 08-10-2008, 07:58 PM

El Paso cited work issues and a lack of time to participate actively. New York said there were a variety of factors that led up to him leaving.

Toronto told me that it was like

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"a bunch of schoolgirls fighting over a jump rope."

Which sucks, because I thought he was starting to enjoy it. He was just put off being able to keep up with everything, coupled with know what they need to do with things. he's a pretty busy guy and I told him that it was a low-key league and he was just getting into OOTP9, which I sold him on at work.

And Texas hasn't submitted a sim in a few weeks, so I just decided to turn them over to the AI since the others were going anyway.

So I think the lesson that comes from all of this is what's already been decided, that we keep the tinkering down to an absolute halt, that we follow the schedule as it's laid out and get a routine going that works...so that anyone who comes in, could have a reasonable good idea of what's going on.

And maybe that'll cut down on the discontent, too.

Young Drachma · 08-10-2008, 07:59 PM

Not reversing any trades though. All were made in good faith, but sometimes stuff happens, people change their minds and decide to go in a different direction. I don't really fault them for that and appreciate the time they spend with us.

Now all we need is one of those teams to move to California.

JimmyOOTP · 08-10-2008, 08:03 PM

For teams being played by the AI kinda worrys me, That's half a division. Can we maybe entice people more if we offered them a created star player or two if they are new to the league? Like let them have a look at their team and let them decide which positions they want created.

Just think somethings gotta be done to get people interested a little. I remember when i first joined and i was taking over chicago originally and i was like omg. I would have stuck it out just the same but thats because i am a OOTP hardcore junkie but not everyone would want to just come into the league and get a team that won't win for over a month.

It will be really hard to get people to take over a team like toronoto now that is was dismantled.

JimmyOOTP · 08-10-2008, 08:08 PM

Btw, please don't take any of my suggestions or comments personally. I love this league and i would love to see it grow for a very long time. Heck i get home from work each day and i open up the boards before i kiss my wife

. Just tring to help a little if i can.

Young Drachma · 08-10-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

For teams being played by the AI kinda worrys me, That's half a division. Can we maybe entice people more if we offered them a created star player or two if they are new to the league? Like let them have a look at their team and let them decide which positions they want created.

Just think somethings gotta be done to get people interested a little. I remember when i first joined and i was taking over chicago originally and i was like omg. I would have stuck it out just the same but thats because i am a OOTP hardcore junkie but not everyone would want to just come into the league and get a team that won't win for over a month.

It will be really hard to get people to take over a team like toronoto now that is was dismantled.

If you know people, be sure to send them. I have posts on OOTP online leagues forum and a thread here on the FOFC forums. I think people will come, things will ebb and flow as usual. It'll be important for us to keep things stable and less daunting for people who don't have the time to invest in the game and can enjoy themselves in spite of that.

And as for "half a division" when FOOL started, we had the same number of teams (16) and just 4 human owners period. So there is a precedent and while it's far from ideal, it's not that big a deal historically. I never expected we'd ever have 16 people willing and actively playing at any one time. The ECFL, our football cousin on this board doesn't have a full slate of human owners. Hell, I don't even think they have 1/4th of that league full (32 teams) so...it's just the nature of the beast.

Toronto has THREE first round picks, if that's not enticing, I dunno what is. That team has the potential to be really good someday. Sure, they need prospects. But it's not hard to get good in this league, parity is assured with our cap being where it is.

Alan T · 08-10-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Btw, please don't take any of my suggestions or comments personally. I love this league and i would love to see it grow for a very long time. Heck i get home from work each day and i open up the boards before i kiss my wife

. Just tring to help a little if i can.

I think at this point DC has a pretty thick skin regarding alot of this. There have been several of us that have peppered him with comments or thoughts pretty constantly. If I can say anything, it is that DC hasn't ever seemed to take too much of it personally which is a good thing.

Young Drachma · 08-10-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Btw, please don't take any of my suggestions or comments personally. I love this league and i would love to see it grow for a very long time. Heck i get home from work each day and i open up the boards before i kiss my wife

. Just tring to help a little if i can.

And it's all appreciated.

JimmyOOTP · 08-10-2008, 08:12 PM

Ok that's cool then, i will come up with a good idea one day i swear i will

Young Drachma · 08-10-2008, 09:23 PM

File is 18.14 MB and is online now. Tomorrow night starts free agency.

ekcut · 08-10-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Btw, please don't take any of my suggestions or comments personally. I love this league and i would love to see it grow for a very long time. Heck i get home from work each day and i open up the boards before i kiss my wife

. Just tring to help a little if i can.

Not me...I kiss your wife and then open the boards...that's just me though

graygoose12 · 08-10-2008, 09:39 PM

The sunday night sim is not going to typically sim just one day is it? Because there really seemed to be no purpose of tonight's sim, unless I am missing something.

Young Drachma · 08-10-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by graygoose12

The sunday night sim is not going to typically sim just one day is it? Because there really seemed to be no purpose of tonight's sim, unless I am missing something.

Normally, the Sunday night sim goes from the end of the FOOL Classic to the end of the post-season in-game, which triggers player options, etc., for the next year, then on Monday we sim to the start of free agency. So in other words, what last night's file did.

We were going to go to the start of arbitration today, but there was some concern that by simming more than one day, that it wouldn't be "fair" to do that, because some players would sign contracts.

So rather than beat a dead horse, I just dropped the issue. Today we simmed for one day, to give people a chance to drop players, to see who is out there and effectively to...well...I dunno, to say we did a Sunday sim.

Next week's Sunday sim will be back to normal and this won't be so confusing and maybe we'll make it week without losing anyone else. Maybe.

graygoose12 · 08-10-2008, 09:51 PM

Sounds good haha.

It's been an active week in the commissioner's office.

muns · 08-10-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ekcut

Not me...I kiss your wife and then open the boards...that's just me though

HA HA

Chief Rum · 08-10-2008, 11:24 PM

The file is officially up now, right? Just checking.

Chief Rum · 08-10-2008, 11:33 PM

Okay, yeah it is.

gstelmack · 08-11-2008, 08:46 AM

Did files get imported? I was pretty sure I made an offer for Yamazaki that is not in the download I got.

Commo_Soldier · 08-11-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Did files get imported? I was pretty sure I made an offer for Yamazaki that is not in the download I got.

Go to Yamazaki and offer him an extension it will probably say you have one offered. You are just not seeing it because he only simmed one day and it normally takes two or so days for the player to get the offer.

As for the dropping and resigning players I will admit that was me and am glad you only simmed one day as I was gone and could not undo what I did. I just was not clear on the rule since I asked awhile back and do not recall getting a firm answer. My intention was to offer them all extensions as this was the final year of all their contracts and they are not cheaper on the FA market then they were to me personally, but for some reason I was not able to offer any FA's contracts because my 1970 salary was at the cap max, which I feel is dumb since the 1970 season is behind us.

Alan T · 08-11-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Go to Yamazaki and offer him an extension it will probably say you have one offered. You are just not seeing it because he only simmed one day and it normally takes two or so days for the player to get the offer.

As for the dropping and resigning players I will admit that was me and am glad you only simmed one day as I was gone and could not undo what I did. I just was not clear on the rule since I asked awhile back and do not recall getting a firm answer. My intention was to offer them all extensions as this was the final year of all their contracts and they are not cheaper on the FA market then they were to me personally, but for some reason I was not able to offer any FA's contracts because my 1970 salary was at the cap max, which I feel is dumb since the 1970 season is behind us.

You can also go to the free agent tab and you should see a button called "Pending Offers" that should show you anything currently offered out.

gstelmack · 08-11-2008, 09:31 AM

And my offer to him was not on the "Pending Offers" list. Oh well, not a biggie, I offered him again this morning.

Young Drachma · 08-11-2008, 07:20 PM

Ok, so where's Yamazki going tonight? Any bets?

muns · 08-11-2008, 07:30 PM

im gonna go with Boston as they are very close, and he might feel that he might put them over the top.... Gonna be real interested to see what kinda money he gets..... I think im looking forward to that the most, cause im clueless in a few areas in this league.... Guys that I think are good others dont and vice versa

Young Drachma · 08-11-2008, 07:33 PM

Yeah, real curious to see how much money gets thrown around here. But it should be fun to see where he lands and for how much. Most anticipated free agent signing since Rich Lang. Or maybe even before that...

Alan T · 08-11-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Ok, so where's Yamazki going tonight? Any bets?

I bet Valdosta as I doubt anyone will spend enough to win him over us!

muns · 08-11-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I bet Valdosta as I doubt anyone will spend enough to win him over us!

lol you cut anyone yet?

Alan T · 08-11-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by muns

lol you cut anyone yet?

Everyone will find out in about an hour or so!

muns · 08-11-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Everyone will find out in about an hour or so!

No fun!!!! Us weak teams with money to spend are chomping at the bit to see what the champs are doing over there

Young Drachma · 08-11-2008, 08:20 PM

I love my team.

We only have 3 players on the 25-man roster over the age of 30. It's way more in the mold of what I did in St. Louis. Home grown players, coupled with key trades and free agents where necessary. But we're not even free agent laden right now, almost everyone who is a standout now or who has the chops to be, are guys who I acquired via trade who were stuck in someone's Triple-A.

It's REALLY awesome, because what I think you can take away for the 11 seasons here are that there are a TON of different ways to win. This league tests your ability to put together a team and then see BAM whether that strategy worked. One false move and the whole thing could go to pot.

I love it. But I especially love my ballclub. We're not laden with prospects on their way up, but we've got a great core of guys.

Young Drachma · 08-11-2008, 08:20 PM

FARM SYSTEM REPORT

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Minor League Systems
#	Team	Points	Top 5 Prospects
1st	Baltimore Terrapins	212	3B A. Summers (3rd), C M. Shepherd (14th), 2B G. Moore (16th), P S. Godbout (19th), C K. Haazens (42nd)
2nd	Ann Arbor Wolverines	195	C J. Ramos (10th), LF L. Davis (23rd), CF T. Mizutani (28th), LF P. Rosales (30th), LF K. Kawamura (35th)
3rd	New York Highlanders	154	3B T. Shimizu (18th), C R. Daniels (21st), 1B H. Miranda (29th), SS A. Reyes (32nd), 2B B. Evans (34th)
4th	Columbus Crusaders	142	CF T. Fournier (1st), CF C. Wagner (8th), P J. López (24th), LF J. Isla (26th), C H. Leyte (91st)
5th	Boston Settlers	141	P T. Tyler (6th), P V. González (12th), CF R. Lord (20th), 3B J. Saldaña (44th), RF J. Shoemaker (65th)
6th	Compton Brothers	139	P F. Flores (11th), CF C. Franco (25th), P L. Vázquez (33rd), CF I. Kobayashi (36th), P J. Colón (49th)
7th	Texas Copperheads	105	C L. Palmer (4th), CF N. Curtis (5th), SS S. Coffey (53rd), SS J. Miller (86th)
8th	Hartford Harpooners	90	P D. Adams (7th), 3B Y. Tsou (31st), 3B I. Costa (54th), 2B T. Jones (70th), P J. Franco (80th)
9th	Colorado Rancheros	78	P I. Beens (2nd), SS K. Shaffer (27th), P R. Mathews (94th), LF B. Skinner (96th)
10th	Brooklyn Brownstones	72	LF E. Cronie (13th), P F. García (22nd), P K. Pak (63rd), P W. McLellan (93rd), P J. Sullivan (98th)
11th	Valdosta Peanuts	63	SS M. Taylor (15th), RF P. Catron (47th), 2B F. Gutiérrez (72nd), P M. Rodríguez (76th), CF D. Beck (92nd)
12th	Quad City Thunderstorms	54	1B L. Mendoza (17th), RF J. Clark (39th), C D. Johnson (61st)
13th	El Paso Alligators	52	CF D. Thompson (9th), 2B J. Pérez (69th), P T. Mercado (74th)
14th	Rio Grande Roadrunners	47	RF F. Carrillo (37th), 2B R. Cruz (38th), LF D. O'Cleary (51st)
15th	Atlanta Firecrackers	39	P C. Macías (43rd), P P. Ortíz (48th), 2B G. O'Healy (73rd), SS D. Simms (89th)
16th	Toronto Atlantics	22	CF R. Logan (41st), P L. Alcock (88th), P M. Yang (90th)

muns · 08-11-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I love my team.

We only have 3 players on the 25-man roster over the age of 30. It's way more in the mold of what I did in St. Louis. Home grown players, coupled with key trades and free agents where necessary. But we're not even free agent laden right now, almost everyone who is a standout now or who has the chops to be, are guys who I acquired via trade who were stuck in someone's Triple-A.

It's REALLY awesome, because what I think you can take away for the 11 seasons here are that there are a TON of different ways to win. This league tests your ability to put together a team and then see BAM whether that strategy worked. One false move and the whole thing could go to pot.

I love it. But I especially love my ballclub. We're not laden with prospects on their way up, but we've got a great core of guys.

YA YA YA rub it in DC why dont ya...... You can build a team, your the king of it, we all know and get it

Although now that I think about it ALAN can give you a run for your money with what he has done

On a serious note, after that trade with Toronto you def gave yourself a hell of a shot this year.... You have the pitching staff to be right there. Im waiting to see FA this year to start calling things, but I too think your team has a good core of guys that could be together for a while.

muns · 08-11-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

FARM SYSTEM REPORT

Code:

Minor League Systems
#	Team	Points	Top 5 Prospects
1st	Baltimore Terrapins	212	3B A. Summers (3rd), C M. Shepherd (14th), 2B G. Moore (16th), P S. Godbout (19th), C K. Haazens (42nd)
2nd	Ann Arbor Wolverines	195	C J. Ramos (10th), LF L. Davis (23rd), CF T. Mizutani (28th), LF P. Rosales (30th), LF K. Kawamura (35th)
3rd	New York Highlanders	154	3B T. Shimizu (18th), C R. Daniels (21st), 1B H. Miranda (29th), SS A. Reyes (32nd), 2B B. Evans (34th)
4th	Columbus Crusaders	142	CF T. Fournier (1st), CF C. Wagner (8th), P J. López (24th), LF J. Isla (26th), C H. Leyte (91st)
5th	Boston Settlers	141	P T. Tyler (6th), P V. González (12th), CF R. Lord (20th), 3B J. Saldaña (44th), RF J. Shoemaker (65th)
6th	Compton Brothers	139	P F. Flores (11th), CF C. Franco (25th), P L. Vázquez (33rd), CF I. Kobayashi (36th), P J. Colón (49th)
7th	Texas Copperheads	105	C L. Palmer (4th), CF N. Curtis (5th), SS S. Coffey (53rd), SS J. Miller (86th)
8th	Hartford Harpooners	90	P D. Adams (7th), 3B Y. Tsou (31st), 3B I. Costa (54th), 2B T. Jones (70th), P J. Franco (80th)
9th	Colorado Rancheros	78	P I. Beens (2nd), SS K. Shaffer (27th), P R. Mathews (94th), LF B. Skinner (96th)
10th	Brooklyn Brownstones	72	LF E. Cronie (13th), P F. García (22nd), P K. Pak (63rd), P W. McLellan (93rd), P J. Sullivan (98th)
11th	Valdosta Peanuts	63	SS M. Taylor (15th), RF P. Catron (47th), 2B F. Gutiérrez (72nd), P M. Rodríguez (76th), CF D. Beck (92nd)
12th	Quad City Thunderstorms	54	1B L. Mendoza (17th), RF J. Clark (39th), C D. Johnson (61st)
13th	El Paso Alligators	52	CF D. Thompson (9th), 2B J. Pérez (69th), P T. Mercado (74th)
14th	Rio Grande Roadrunners	47	RF F. Carrillo (37th), 2B R. Cruz (38th), LF D. O'Cleary (51st)
15th	Atlanta Firecrackers	39	P C. Macías (43rd), P P. Ortíz (48th), 2B G. O'Healy (73rd), SS D. Simms (89th)
16th	Toronto Atlantics	22	CF R. Logan (41st), P L. Alcock (88th), P M. Yang (90th)

Its scary that Ann Arbor sits second there.... I swear that team just reloads every single year

graygoose12 · 08-11-2008, 08:35 PM

Does anybody know what removes a player from being on that list?

I think it is just a year of ML experience. That being said, I currently have six players aged 20 or younger on my ML team that are going to be or already stars. Well maybe not all stars, but good players.

Young Drachma · 08-11-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by muns

YA YA YA rub it in DC why dont ya...... You can build a team, your the king of it, we all know and get it

Although now that I think about it ALAN can give you a run for your money with what he has done

On a serious note, after that trade with Toronto you def gave yourself a hell of a shot this year.... You have the pitching staff to be right there. Im waiting to see FA this year to start calling things, but I too think your team has a good core of guys that could be together for a while.

Alan is the king for sure. Highest win percentage of any of the GMs in the league who have been here 7+ years other than me (and I don't count...) He's done a real job with that team. Ann Arbor too. What he's done up there is astounding, given how bad they were for a while. All through the farm system too. He hasn't gone out and made big trades or signings. Just grows 'em up, signs a guy or two and just works with what he's got. Impressive stuff, for real.

Baltimore might be ready to turn a corner if those prospects pna out.

Young Drachma · 08-11-2008, 09:07 PM

It is officially party time. Let's see where the chips fall, shall we?

Young Drachma · 08-11-2008, 09:19 PM

SS Ogai Yamazaki signed a 6 year deal worth $93 million with Brooklyn. With incentives the deal could top $138 million.

Young Drachma · 08-11-2008, 09:21 PM

Preparing the file for upload now.

muns · 08-11-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

SS Ogai Yamazaki signed a 6 year deal worth $93 million with Brooklyn. With incentives the deal could top $138 million.

wow is what comes to mind

08-10-2008, 07:39 PM	#55
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Yeah, I kinda see what Alan and Jimmy are talking about. This seems really odd with all the trades he pulled off the past couple days. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-10-2008, 08:08 PM	#67
JimmyOOTP Mascot Join Date: Aug 2008	Btw, please don't take any of my suggestions or comments personally. I love this league and i would love to see it grow for a very long time. Heck i get home from work each day and i open up the boards before i kiss my wife. Just tring to help a little if i can.

08-10-2008, 11:24 PM	#78
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	The file is officially up now, right? Just checking. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-10-2008, 11:33 PM	#79
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Okay, yeah it is. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-11-2008, 08:46 AM	#80
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Did files get imported? I was pretty sure I made an offer for Yamazaki that is not in the download I got. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

08-10-2008, 07:36 PM	#52
JimmyOOTP Mascot Join Date: Aug 2008	Something has to be done about people destroying their teams and then leaving. Like if the trades made sense then fine but toronto dismantled that team literally to the ground and then quits in less then 24 hours after doing so?

08-10-2008, 07:42 PM	#57
JimmyOOTP Mascot Join Date: Aug 2008	Yeah i didn't get my catcher from him cheap either and it took some good negotiations but im just wondering if theres something we should be doing to protect teams out there so that it won't be to hard to get replacements. Like if some dude made either one or a few questionable trades and then quit, i think all trades from this team in the last 48 hours or so should be turned back.

08-10-2008, 07:48 PM	#61
JimmyOOTP Mascot Join Date: Aug 2008	BTW i still need a SP. Hit me up with what you got for sale

08-10-2008, 07:50 PM	#62
JimmyOOTP Mascot Join Date: Aug 2008	Im a little nervous to go in with Vazquez this year so i need a 4+ star SP and have my first round pick with vazquez AAA and also 3b Woods who is gonna be a great player, he is just blocked atm.

08-10-2008, 07:59 PM	#65
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Not reversing any trades though. All were made in good faith, but sometimes stuff happens, people change their minds and decide to go in a different direction. I don't really fault them for that and appreciate the time they spend with us. Now all we need is one of those teams to move to California.

08-10-2008, 08:03 PM	#66
JimmyOOTP Mascot Join Date: Aug 2008	For teams being played by the AI kinda worrys me, That's half a division. Can we maybe entice people more if we offered them a created star player or two if they are new to the league? Like let them have a look at their team and let them decide which positions they want created. Just think somethings gotta be done to get people interested a little. I remember when i first joined and i was taking over chicago originally and i was like omg. I would have stuck it out just the same but thats because i am a OOTP hardcore junkie but not everyone would want to just come into the league and get a team that won't win for over a month. It will be really hard to get people to take over a team like toronoto now that is was dismantled.

08-10-2008, 08:12 PM	#71
JimmyOOTP Mascot Join Date: Aug 2008	Ok that's cool then, i will come up with a good idea one day i swear i will

08-10-2008, 09:23 PM	#72
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	File is 18.14 MB and is online now. Tomorrow night starts free agency.

08-10-2008, 09:39 PM	#74
graygoose12 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004	The sunday night sim is not going to typically sim just one day is it? Because there really seemed to be no purpose of tonight's sim, unless I am missing something.

08-10-2008, 09:51 PM	#76
graygoose12 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004	Sounds good haha. It's been an active week in the commissioner's office.

08-11-2008, 09:31 AM	#83
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	And my offer to him was not on the "Pending Offers" list. Oh well, not a biggie, I offered him again this morning. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

08-11-2008, 07:20 PM	#84
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Ok, so where's Yamazki going tonight? Any bets?

08-11-2008, 07:30 PM	#85
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	im gonna go with Boston as they are very close, and he might feel that he might put them over the top.... Gonna be real interested to see what kinda money he gets..... I think im looking forward to that the most, cause im clueless in a few areas in this league.... Guys that I think are good others dont and vice versa Last edited by muns : 08-11-2008 at 07:32 PM.

08-11-2008, 07:33 PM	#86
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Yeah, real curious to see how much money gets thrown around here. But it should be fun to see where he lands and for how much. Most anticipated free agent signing since Rich Lang. Or maybe even before that...

08-11-2008, 08:20 PM	#91
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I love my team. We only have 3 players on the 25-man roster over the age of 30. It's way more in the mold of what I did in St. Louis. Home grown players, coupled with key trades and free agents where necessary. But we're not even free agent laden right now, almost everyone who is a standout now or who has the chops to be, are guys who I acquired via trade who were stuck in someone's Triple-A. It's REALLY awesome, because what I think you can take away for the 11 seasons here are that there are a TON of different ways to win. This league tests your ability to put together a team and then see BAM whether that strategy worked. One false move and the whole thing could go to pot. I love it. But I especially love my ballclub. We're not laden with prospects on their way up, but we've got a great core of guys. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

08-11-2008, 08:35 PM	#95
graygoose12 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004	Does anybody know what removes a player from being on that list? I think it is just a year of ML experience. That being said, I currently have six players aged 20 or younger on my ML team that are going to be or already stars. Well maybe not all stars, but good players. Last edited by graygoose12 : 08-11-2008 at 08:36 PM.

08-11-2008, 09:07 PM	#97
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	It is officially party time. Let's see where the chips fall, shall we?

08-11-2008, 09:19 PM	#98
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	SS Ogai Yamazaki signed a 6 year deal worth $93 million with Brooklyn. With incentives the deal could top $138 million.

08-11-2008, 09:21 PM	#99
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Preparing the file for upload now.

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