1971 Season Thread (Classic is over! FA starts tomorrow!)

[Young Drachma]

Spring training and the draft tonight. Draft class is sketchy, but spring training is always a barn burner. Any season previews?

[Young Drachma]

I'll process the trades after I get all of the exports in and that way, I can start running things.

[Alan T]

I'll do my season preview after spring training is over like normal. Not fully sure which guys will end up in the big leagues this year until after spring training.

As normal, I'm running mostly young guys out there for spring training to see what shakes out. I have a good 7 positions up for grab out of my 25 this year.

[JimmyOOTP]

I may give it a try this season aswell, never done this before so im not sure it will look as professional as Alan

[Young Drachma]

All right, here we go. Gonna process trades and then get this show going.

[Young Drachma]

Here's the draft order for the 1971 draft, for the first round:

1. Texas Copperheads
2. El Paso Alligators
3. Columbus Crusaders
4. Toronto Atlantics
5. Baltimore Terrapins
6. Hartford Harpooners
7. New York Highlanders
8. Boston Settlers
9. Brooklyn Brownstones
10. Toronto Atlantics
11. Valdosta Peanuts
12. Rio Grande Roadrunners
13. Colorado Rancheros
14. Ann Arbor Wolverines
15. Compton Brothers
16. Toronto Atlantics

[JimmyOOTP]

Is this after the trades? cause i don't see where atlanta was picking this year.

[Young Drachma]

Here are the picks round 1-9 (backwards, 'cuz OOTP sux)

Round 9
Round 9, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: SP M. Hodges
Round 9, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: C J. Davis
Round 9, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SS S. Bruce
Round 9, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: LF L. Currell
Round 9, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP R. Baker
Round 9, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: SP E. Douglas
Round 9, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: C N. Ramírez
Round 9, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SP R. Rodríguez
Round 9, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SS M. Dupont
Round 9, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: SP T. Miller
Round 9, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SS G. Vega
Round 9, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SP J. O'Duana
Round 9, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: RF A. Durón
Round 9, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SP T. Bannister
Round 9, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: SP J. Ramírez
Round 9, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: SP L. Harris
Round 8
Round 8, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: C K. Bradsher
Round 8, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 2B E. Brown
Round 8, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SS G. Daniels
Round 8, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: SP J. Hernández
Round 8, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: 2B C. Springer
Round 8, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: 2B B. Short
Round 8, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: LF B. Austin
Round 8, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SS J. Jackson
Round 8, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: 3B B. Smith
Round 8, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: 2B S. Johnston
Round 8, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SP J. Salas
Round 8, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: 3B A. Owens
Round 8, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: MR A. Pereira
Round 8, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SS M. Blanchard
Round 8, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: C J. Colón
Round 8, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: 2B M. Logan
Round 7
Round 7, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: SP J. Hopkins
Round 7, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 3B J. Zamora
Round 7, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP E. McBride
Round 7, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: 3B M. Burt
Round 7, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP R. León
Round 7, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: SP B. Green
Round 7, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: 2B D. Forrest
Round 7, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SP D. Fields
Round 7, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SS S. Byers
Round 7, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: SS M. Tolmie
Round 7, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF R. Winter
Round 7, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SP D. McGee
Round 7, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: MR S. Beauchamp
Round 7, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SP B. Osborne
Round 7, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: SP W. Colón
Round 7, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: C F. Vázquez
Round 6
Round 6, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: SS C. Walters
Round 6, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: SP R. Martínez
Round 6, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: 2B N. McKnight
Round 6, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: SP R. Heredia
Round 6, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: LF D. Valdéz
Round 6, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: CF D. Santiago
Round 6, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: C L. Williams
Round 6, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: C P. Richter
Round 6, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SP K. Davis
Round 6, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: 2B D. Harmon
Round 6, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: LF C. González
Round 6, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: LF Á. Cortéz
Round 6, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: 1B R. Wall
Round 6, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SS R. Lugo
Round 6, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: LF T. King
Round 6, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: 3B J. Stone
Round 5
Round 5, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: CF D. Hall
Round 5, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: C G. Blanco
Round 5, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP E. Byrd
Round 5, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: 2B G. Warren
Round 5, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: 2B B. Booth
Round 5, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: 1B N. Hunter
Round 5, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: C C. Newman
Round 5, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: CF R. Norman
Round 5, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: C J. King
Round 5, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: 3B J. Hayhurst
Round 5, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF B. Pugh
Round 5, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: 2B R. Morrison
Round 5, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: LF O. Mata
Round 5, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SP B. Church
Round 5, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: LF B. Brown
Round 5, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: CF N. Jones
Round 4
Round 4, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: 3B L. Martínez
Round 4, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: SP D. Fox
Round 4, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: LF J. Salazar
Round 4, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: SP C. Máynes
Round 4, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SS R. MacDonald
Round 4, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: SS P. Warner
Round 4, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: SS D. Woods
Round 4, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SS B. Carson
Round 4, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: C D. Watson
Round 4, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: SS K. Hayes
Round 4, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SP C. González
Round 4, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: C I. Toledo
Round 4, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: RF S. Myers
Round 4, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: C D. Baxter
Round 4, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: 2B W. Reed
Round 4, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: 1B B. Chapman
Round 3
Round 3, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: CF D. Walls
Round 3, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 1B G. Miller
Round 3, Pick 3 - Quad City Thunderstorms: 2B B. Wilson
Round 3, Pick 4 - Quad City Thunderstorms: CF E. Malone
Round 3, Pick 5 - Hartford Harpooners: CF J. Warren
Round 3, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: CF T. Ewing
Round 3, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: LF L. Pierce
Round 3, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: LF T. Roussy
Round 3, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: 3B J. Vargas
Round 3, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: LF S. Anderson
Round 3, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF S. Venegas
Round 3, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: RF B. Smith
Round 3, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: LF R. Sullivan
Round 3, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: 2B R. Stace
Round 3, Pick 15 - Toronto Atlantics: CF S. Hairston
Round 3, Pick 16 - Toronto Atlantics: SP G. Franco
Round 2
Round 2, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: SP E. Washington
Round 2, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 2B F. Acevedo
Round 2, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP R. Wilkins
Round 2, Pick 4 - Compton Brothers: CF H. Méndez
Round 2, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: CF M. Marshall
Round 2, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: RF J. Smith
Round 2, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: C J. Robinson
Round 2, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: LF B. Black
Round 2, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: 3B É. Loiselle
Round 2, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: SP G. Méndez
Round 2, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF S. Harmon
Round 2, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SP M. Thompson
Round 2, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: LF J. Gonzáles
Round 2, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: 2B A. Henry
Round 2, Pick 15 - Toronto Atlantics: RF R. Allen
Round 2, Pick 16 - Toronto Atlantics: 3B S. Mathis
Round 1
Round 1, Pick 1 - Texas Copperheads: CF C. Wilson
Round 1, Pick 2 - El Paso Alligators: 1B G. Mata
Round 1, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: RF S. Oliver
Round 1, Pick 4 - Toronto Atlantics: CF C. Numbers
Round 1, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP I. Flores
Round 1, Pick 6 - Hartford Harpooners: SP A. Miller
Round 1, Pick 7 - New York Highlanders: RF B. Waller
Round 1, Pick 8 - Boston Settlers: SS L. Crawford
Round 1, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: C M. Fontaine
Round 1, Pick 10 - Toronto Atlantics: RF I. Booker
Round 1, Pick 11 - Valdosta Peanuts: LF A. Poole
Round 1, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: LF S. Patterson
Round 1, Pick 13 - Colorado Rancheros: SP M. Stewart
Round 1, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: 1B S. McIndoe
Round 1, Pick 15 - Compton Brothers: RF C. Knapp
Round 1, Pick 16 - Toronto Atlantics: 2B C. Morgan

[JimmyOOTP]

I think you have valdosta and mine mixed up. i should be 11th and he should be 15th since i traded him comptons pick not atlanta's.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

I think you have valdosta and mine mixed up. i should be 11th and he should be 15th since i traded him comptons pick not atlanta's.

The game doesn't allow me to sift between the picks you have. It just trades the lowest 1st round pick that you still had to the other team.

So I have no control over it. It's why I hate draft pick trading.

[JimmyOOTP]

we'll that is dumb. If i would have knew this i wouldn't have traded my first rounder.

[JimmyOOTP]

Should have traded both my picks to him and then trade it back for like a 20th pick or something. Also i should get his LF and he should get
my RF.

[Young Drachma]

I think draft pick trading works fine when teams just trade their pick to someone else, etc., It's when teams trade the picks of other teams, is when it gets complicated.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Should have traded both my picks to him and then trade it back for like a 20th pick or something. Also i should get his LF and he should get
my RF.

Thats fine. If you want to offer it up as a deal I'll accept it. I didn't have Knapp rated that highly though and wouldn't have picked him there, but I would rather there be no hard feelings. I'll just take the hit and get a player I didn't really want.

[Young Drachma]

FINAL SPRING TRAINING STANDINGS (1971)
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CONTINENTAL
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Valdosta (17-7)
Brooklyn (17-7)
Toronto (13-11)
Baltimore (11-13)
New York (11-13)
Rio Grande (11-13)
Atlanta (11-13)
Texas (5-19)

REPUBLIC
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Ann Arbor (15-9)
Quad City (13-11)
Compton (13-11)
Columbus (12-12)
Boston (12-12)
El Paso (12-12)
Colorado (10-14)
Hartford (9-15)

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Thats fine. If you want to offer it up as a deal I'll accept it. I didn't have Knapp rated that highly though and wouldn't have picked him there, but I would rather there be no hard feelings. I'll just take the hit and get a player I didn't really want.

I'll make the trade as part of the one you just did, to correct what apparently didn't happen, since technically the deadline has passed.

[JimmyOOTP]

But in all honesty did you think you were getting my 15th pick or atlanta's? I thought i was sending you my 15th is why i made the deal.

[JimmyOOTP]

In the furture, i really think we need to remind people once they posted a trade about how the game takes the first pick availible for trade cause this really wasn't fair for Alan.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

But in all honesty did you think you were getting my 15th pick or atlanta's? I thought i was sending you my 15th is why i made the deal.

No, I assumed i was getting your 15th, that is the only reason I offered to swap them. I didn't want Knapp and this basically means I gave up a good MR for someone who was ranked about 50th or 60th on my draft list instead of a top 16 pick is all.

I'm a little upset about how it ended up, but like I said, its just a game and no reason for hard feelings as you got the bad end of the stick too. I'm just willing to do the trade to end the frustration for you is all.

[JimmyOOTP]

Is there no way to load a backup copy you may have DC and redo it?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

In the furture, i really think we need to remind people once they posted a trade about how the game takes the first pick availible for trade cause this really wasn't fair for Alan.

I honestly had no idea, because draft pick trading isn't that rampant.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

Is there no way to load a backup copy you may have DC and redo it?

Nah, don't worry about it. I'm ready to get the season started.

[Alan T]

Plus I am eager to see this file and figure out how my team went 17-7 in spring training. I had a 6 man pitching staff where 4 of the starting pitchers are what I would class as career minor leaguers.

[Young Drachma]

Yeah, no way I'm re-running the file. We've already gotten passed this phase. In the future, folks just need not to trade picks from other teams. I can watch out for the draft order, but you'll just have to alert me on draft day so I can be mindful of it, that's all.

[JimmyOOTP]

I like how Quad city went 13-11

[Young Drachma]

Players swapped, per the agreed deal that you all outlined.

Preparing the file now.

[JimmyOOTP]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Yeah, no way I'm re-running the file. We've already gotten passed this phase. In the future, folks just need not to trade picks from other teams. I can watch out for the draft order, but you'll just have to alert me on draft day so I can be mindful of it, that's all.

I didn't trade my pick from another team though. I was trading my own. But its all good, now i understand how it works and will be sure it will not happen again.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by JimmyOOTP

I like how Quad city went 13-11

13-11 with subs playing at key positions and no fatigue on.

[Young Drachma]

File is packing now.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Alan T

No, I assumed i was getting your 15th, that is the only reason I offered to swap them. I didn't want Knapp and this basically means I gave up a good MR for someone who was ranked about 50th or 60th on my draft list instead of a top 16 pick is all.

I'm a little upset about how it ended up, but like I said, its just a game and no reason for hard feelings as you got the bad end of the stick too. I'm just willing to do the trade to end the frustration for you is all.

Knapp might not look like the better player now, but he's got way better potential and with the way you develop players...

[JimmyOOTP]

I keep forgeting to put a 40 man roster at spring training.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Knapp might not look like the better player now, but he's got way better potential and with the way you develop players...

He doesn't have the defense I require for a Right fielder, doesn't have the bat I want for a left fielder and doesn't have the range I want for a center fielder.

At this point though we'll have to just wait and see how he develops, no big deal. Maybe karma will help me out and I'll get lucky with him. After the way my first pick from last year has gotten absolutely destroyed by the ratings demon, I think I deserve it

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Alan T

He doesn't have the defense I require for a Right fielder, doesn't have the bat I want for a left fielder and doesn't have the range I want for a center fielder.

At this point though we'll have to just wait and see how he develops, no big deal. Maybe karma will help me out and I'll get lucky with him. After the way my first pick from last year has gotten absolutely destroyed by the ratings demon, I think I deserve it

I forgot, you have standards. Defense and all...

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I forgot, you have standards. Defense and all...

Well as Yogi Berra said... defense is 50% of the game.. offense is also 50%, and so is pitching, that is 50% too.

[Young Drachma]

Server problems. Gotta diagnose

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Knapp might not look like the better player now, but he's got way better potential and with the way you develop players...

Is it possible we could look at the five players picked around where Alan's pick was supposed to be and then edit Knapp's potentials to be of comparable level to the average of them?

Not something I would normally want to suggest doing, but that's a pretty messed up situation.

[JimmyOOTP]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Is it possible we could look at the five players picked around where Alan's pick was supposed to be and then edit Knapp's potentials to be of comparable level to the average of them?

Not something I would normally want to suggest doing, but that's a pretty messed up situation.

Funny i was thinking the same thing just now.. I feel bad this happened.

[Chief Rum]

I like my picks. I stacked pitchers high because good ones were rare, and got one of the best starters. Then I got several of the hitter talent (most of which was pretty similar after the first round), and then, as per my usual, I got the two best MRs late in the draft. Only guy I didn't recognize was the 9th rounder.

[Young Drachma]

FTP server is being goofy. I'd rather not move the file to another one, because then people will have to download an entirely new file. So...lemme see if I can get them to fix it.

[Chief Rum]

BTW, not that winning Spring Training means anything good (prior to last year), but no one should read anything into the Rancheros' 10-14 record. As usual, hardly any of the guys getting regular team will be more than backups for the squad this year.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Is it possible we could look at the five players picked around where Alan's pick was supposed to be and then edit Knapp's potentials to be of comparable level to the average of them?

Not something I would normally want to suggest doing, but that's a pretty messed up situation.

There isn't really anything wrong with his ratings. He just isn't the type of player I pick for my teams. Perhaps in a few years he'll either improve in those categories or he'll be a player that someone else would like enough to get decent trade value for.

I'm not too worried about it. If I had known all of this would have happened, I would have rather kept my MR. I chose to trade him as I had the top 16 mapped out and knew I would get one of those for him so pulled the trigger. I think it would be a mistake to start editing ratings because of perceived wronging, that sets up a slippery slope that I would rather not have.. I don't really like the idea of any ratings ever being edited for any reason really outside of the game.

Lets focus on the regular season where I'm about to pull a repeat on everyone!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I like my picks. I stacked pitchers high because good ones were rare, and got one of the best starters. Then I got several of the hitter talent (most of which was pretty similar after the first round), and then, as per my usual, I got the two best MRs late in the draft. Only guy I didn't recognize was the 9th rounder.

That was the strategy I used in last year's draft only to see my top two SPs have talent hits after the draft almost immediately... so I chose to go a different path this time (I know it is just bad luck, but figured I would as I have no minor league depth and would rather try to stock it back up with players I could use in a few years)

[JimmyOOTP]

Btw i did have the Left fielder in my draft list at 9th jusso you know.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

There isn't really anything wrong with his ratings. He just isn't the type of player I pick for my teams. Perhaps in a few years he'll either improve in those categories or he'll be a player that someone else would like enough to get decent trade value for.

I'm not too worried about it. If I had known all of this would have happened, I would have rather kept my MR. I chose to trade him as I had the top 16 mapped out and knew I would get one of those for him so pulled the trigger. I think it would be a mistake to start editing ratings because of perceived wronging, that sets up a slippery slope that I would rather not have.. I don't really like the idea of any ratings ever being edited for any reason really outside of the game.

Lets focus on the regular season where I'm about to pull a repeat on everyone!

Maybe we can trade out talents? Improve Knapp defensively, but drop his GAP/EYE/K rate a bit, or make him a worse base stealer? Or make him older. He can be the oldest player in the class with just a year added.

[Alan T]

Seems like i like my 5th and possibly my 6th round picks better than my 1st round!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Maybe we can trade out talents? Improve Knapp defensively, but drop his GAP/EYE/K rate a bit, or make him a worse base stealer? Or make him older. He can be the oldest player in the class with just a year added.

lol.. I think I'll be fine. Chances are with the way I handle my minor leagues he won't even be on my team this time next year.

[Alan T]

I do think he needs a nickname though. I'll take that as the only edit I'd be happy with. Can we name him: Christian "Red-headed Stepchild" Knapp ?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Alan T

There isn't really anything wrong with his ratings. He just isn't the type of player I pick for my teams. Perhaps in a few years he'll either improve in those categories or he'll be a player that someone else would like enough to get decent trade value for.

I'm not too worried about it. If I had known all of this would have happened, I would have rather kept my MR. I chose to trade him as I had the top 16 mapped out and knew I would get one of those for him so pulled the trigger. I think it would be a mistake to start editing ratings because of perceived wronging, that sets up a slippery slope that I would rather not have.. I don't really like the idea of any ratings ever being edited for any reason really outside of the game.

Lets focus on the regular season where I'm about to pull a repeat on everyone!

Slippery slope indeed. Sensible position here. I'm glad you posted, as I started to think about it a bit...and knew it'd be a bad precedent to start.

Thanks for reminding us that you pummeled us all last year.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I do think he needs a nickname though. I'll take that as the only edit I'd be happy with. Can we name him: Christian "Red-headed Stepchild" Knapp ?

Done, even has red hair.

[Alan T]

P.S. Chief, to cross-league post.. I really need you to win your bowl game in BBCF vs whomever it is (I think UCLA) as the only hope I have now of making my boosters happy is for everyone I faced this year to have good wins, and improve their rankings enough for my final year ratings to get in the top 8!