1976 season thread - Page 5

kaosfere · 09-19-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by muns

hear hear (spellling is prob wrong)

Nope! "Hear, Hear" is quite correct.

Hear hear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I always make a point to give props to its correct use, because it's such a common error.

Young Drachma · 09-19-2008, 11:25 PM

Familiar?

kaosfere · 09-19-2008, 11:26 PM

Back on topic, while its certainly what I thought might happen this season, I can't say I'm any less disappointed. I knew it would be close, but I hoped I'd be in the running a bit longer.

muns · 09-19-2008, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaosfere

Nope! "Hear, Hear" is quite correct.

Hear hear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I always make a point to give props to its correct use, because it's such a common error.

Thank you for letting me know that Kaos. Im pretty bad with that kinda stuff

kaosfere · 09-19-2008, 11:27 PM

DC, please tell me you have a .psd of that and you just have to change one digit every year.

Young Drachma · 09-19-2008, 11:28 PM

What's cool about this league is, with the history and such alike, we'll be able to recall the dominance of Valdosta's run now -- they might not win another title for 40 years -- but, this era is unique and we have the Champions Row to look back and can cite those teams and the players.

It's a neat experiment. Mostly, I was just plugging how CRAZY Valdosta's outfield wall looks.

I also posted St. Louis' banners which will be housed at the FOOL Hall of Fame.

muns · 09-19-2008, 11:28 PM

Alan feel free to hurry up and go delete your posts about what you do. I think the entire league is gonna start to shift to what you do now

Young Drachma · 09-19-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaosfere

DC, please tell me you have a .psd of that and you just have to change one digit every year.

Yeah. After I made a banner once (and sometimes, uniforms, etc.) I just load up the file and alter it.

Easier that way and good for consistency. Some teams (Colorado, Valdosta) are just so frequent that it they started to make it necessary.

Alan T · 09-19-2008, 11:29 PM

We're going to have to take down the statue of Doc Holiday in order to fit the 1976 one with how large it is!

muns · 09-19-2008, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

What's cool about this league is, with the history and such alike, we'll be able to recall the dominance of Valdosta's run now -- they might not win another title for 40 years -- but, this era is unique and we have the Champions Row to look back and can cite those teams and the players.

It's a neat experiment. Mostly, I was just plugging how CRAZY Valdosta's outfield wall looks.

I also posted St. Louis' banners which will be housed at the FOOL Hall of Fame.

As always neat stuff to see. That wall is super crazy. They are gonna run out of room pretty soon

Young Drachma · 09-19-2008, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns

Alan feel free to hurry up and go delete your posts about what you do. I think the entire league is gonna start to shift to what you do now

Nah. I don't think it can work that way. That team was build for his strategy and his methodology. I think you can try it, but it won't work. I know a few years ago, I tried to mimic his offensive strategy. But it didn't work for my team and we were way under my expectations.

You just can't do it. You have to build a team that plays the way you wanna play or at least, build a team that will conform and play ahead of what the standard for the rest of the league is.

OOTP has matured to the point where there is enough grey area for you to say "well, he just didn't have a good year" rather than "his ratings were broke."

I think that's an excellent thing.

kaosfere · 09-19-2008, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns

As always neat stuff to see. That wall is super crazy. They are gonna run out of room pretty soon

Nah, they'll just have the world's most unbalanced ball park. 360' to left, 700' to right.

kaosfere · 09-19-2008, 11:39 PM

File up soon?

I want to know whose fingers I'm going to chop off.

Young Drachma · 09-19-2008, 11:40 PM

File is up!

Chief Rum · 09-19-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

The move to Detroit was scuttled when Ramz took over Ann Arbor and he's moving them to San Diego to become the San Diego Fathers. Unless he comes up with a better name before deadline and changes what he told me.

I am just at the start of this season thread, so this is distant past for most of you, but I wanted to say this name and DC's comment made me giggle like a school girl. Ramz, welcome to the league. And DON'T change the name. It's Gawd awful--I love it.

muns · 09-19-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kaosfere

File up soon?

I want to know whose fingers I'm going to chop off.

im looking forward to seeing who shit their pants in my last 10 games. Cant wait to see the file for that reason alone.

muns · 09-19-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I am just at the start of this season thread, so this is distant past for most of you, but I wanted to say this name and DC's comment made me giggle like a school girl. Ramz, welcome to the league. And DON'T change the name. It's Gawd awful--I love it.

lol you would like it ha ha

Ramzavail · 09-19-2008, 11:44 PM

thanks DC

Ramzavail · 09-19-2008, 11:45 PM

haha thanks! I actually refuse to call them the Padres IRL, I always say Fathers, so thats where it came from.

Chief Rum · 09-19-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Good Lord, I am going to hell.

And DC is going with me.

kaosfere · 09-19-2008, 11:48 PM

My word. 11-17 in June, including 5 losses to Atlanta, 3 to New York, and 3 to Brooklyn. That killed my season, right there.

Alan T · 09-19-2008, 11:48 PM

Haha.. I had two starters hit below .200 in the lineup.. sheesh that is ugly.

Ramzavail · 09-19-2008, 11:49 PM

awesome job with the colors and logo DC

Cringer · 09-19-2008, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Haha.. I had two starters hit below .200 in the lineup.. sheesh that is ugly.

Something tells me it's not that ugly when you are deciding if they will stay in the lineup for the FOOL Classic.

Chief Rum · 09-19-2008, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

STANDINGS AS OF JULY 1, 1976

Code:

Continental League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Valdosta Peanuts	55	32	.632	-
Atlanta Firecrackers	48	39	.552	7.0
Baltimore Terrapins	46	41	.529	9.0
Toronto Osprey		42	44	.488	12.5
Texas Travelers		40	47	.460	15.0
Brooklyn Brownstones	39	47	.453	15.5
New York Highlanders	39	49	.443	16.5
Rio Grande Roadrunners	39	49	.443	16.5

Republic League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Hartford Harpooners	49	38	.563	-
Columbus Crusaders	48	38	.558	.5
New Orleans Wrens	44	43	.506	5.0
Long Island Violators	43	43	.500	5.5
Chicago Thunderstorms	41	46	.471	8.0
Colorado Rancheros	41	46	.471	8.0
Compton Brothers	41	47	.466	8.5
San Diego Fathers	41	47	.466	8.5

Very funny, guys. Where's the real season?

Cringer · 09-19-2008, 11:53 PM

Young Drachma · 09-19-2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

awesome job with the colors and logo DC

I'm glad you like it!

Alan T · 09-19-2008, 11:57 PM

The last original Valdosta Peanut has announced his retirement.

Billy Stephens has chosen to retire at age 33 after 13 seasons with the Peanut. Unfortunately he wasn't on the big league team this year, it will still be sad to see him leave the league. He'll never be remembered for anything special as he was just another middle relief/setup guy, but he was the heart of my bullpen for years.

Cringer · 09-19-2008, 11:59 PM

Thanks from RG as well DC, we enjoy seeing the uni's and colors back in the 'older' style. The RG can stick around as well, I am perfectly fine with that.

Chief Rum · 09-19-2008, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

September 4th
Texas 6, Atlanta 2
Toronto 8, Baltimore 2
Brooklyn 6, Valdosta 3
Chicago 5, Hartford 3
Columbus 7, New Orleans 3

Joke's on you guys! I decided to send my rookie team to play Texas in this series!

Cringer · 09-19-2008, 11:59 PM

On July 15th, Tanaka hit his 400th homerun.

On July 13th he had his 2500th hit.

kaosfere · 09-20-2008, 12:00 AM

OW! Maresuke Saito, who was awesome last year, completely fell apart this year. He started 5 games in that horrible month of June, and we lost every single one of them. He earned 4 of those losses, which put him at 1-9 with a 4.25 ERA. By the middle of July, he was at 1-11 with a 4.76.

NOT what you want from your #3 man.

He pulled it together a little in the back half, and finished 7-13, 4.07, but the damage was well and truly done.

Chief Rum · 09-20-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by muns

Anyone talk to Chief?? im sure he is gonna be pleasantly surprised when he checks this out

I'll say! This is shocking. Never been happier (or to be more accurate, uncaring) to be losing in September.

Chief Rum · 09-20-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

He said he's not gonna look (I read it in the preview thread a minute ago) until he gets back from LAX.

Well, actually, until I finished my preview. The LAX thing is tomorrow. Had to be sure my car was cool for the trip.

Cringer · 09-20-2008, 12:06 AM

Well, Sparks is pretty much done for. Not only was the record bad at 8-12 but he lost 10 points for Stuff as well. Pablo may be forced into the #1 spot of death for RG. My pitching staff is quickly dried up.

muns · 09-20-2008, 12:07 AM

alright can someone please look at my roster and tell me what Steven Harmon's Contact rating is?

Im showing its 36.... How the hell does it drop from 100 to 36 in one damn file. That was my leadoff hitter..... Can someone else confirm that?

Ramzavail · 09-20-2008, 12:07 AM

who the hell signed all these shitty ass SPs...good lord.

Chief Rum · 09-20-2008, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

September 10th
---
Brooklyn 6, Valdosta 4
Baltimore 3, Toronto 2
Texas 5, Atlanta 1
Hartford 6, Chicago 4
Columbus 4, New Orleans 3

DUDE! GET OUT OF MY FREAKIN' MIND, TEXAS!!!

Alan T · 09-20-2008, 12:08 AM

Dan Hurley of Brooklyn tied the FOOL record for triples in a season with 23. The previous record of 23 was held by... Dan Hurley in 1973.

Stan Miller of Atlanta broke the FOOL record for saves in a season with 51. The previous record of 50 was set by Aaron Daily in 1969, whom was with Compton at the time.

Joe Hart of Colorado tied the FOOL record for complete games with 13, which was previously set by Ricardo Torres of Valdosta in 1967.

Ramzavail · 09-20-2008, 12:08 AM

Sam Harmon 63

Chief Rum · 09-20-2008, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

September 12th
----
Valdosta 8, Brooklyn 4

Valdosta clinches their 5th CL title in seven years.

Congrats again, Alan.

You bastard.

Cringer · 09-20-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

On July 15th, Tanaka hit his 400th homerun.

On July 13th he had his 2500th hit.

Woot! Not only did he have another damn good year at 36, but he excepted our lower then asking price extension. He wanted $13mil a year, He took $11mil a year and is locked up until he is 39 years old.

Alan T · 09-20-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns

alright can someone please look at my roster and tell me what Steven Harmon's Contact rating is?

Im showing its 36.... How the hell does it drop from 100 to 36 in one damn file. That was my leadoff hitter..... Can someone else confirm that?

It looks like Steven imploded. His actual stats from last season kind of go in line with a 36 contact rating though.. but this is one of those things that Markus locked a thread on the OOTP forums just today because it doesn't happen in OOTP anymore

Chief Rum · 09-20-2008, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

September 14th
----
New Orleans 6, Hartford 5
Columbus 6, Chicago 3

Columbus went 7-3 in their last 10 to pull it off.
Hartford went 3-7 in their last 10.

Columbus clinches their first RL pennant!

Wow, way to go, Turner!

And my heart goes out to muns. He has a hell of a team.

I feel a little a part of both, because I know the deals I did with both teams contributed to where they ended up this year.

muns, your time is still coming. Keep strong.

And Turner, good luck against GOLIATH.

Alan T · 09-20-2008, 12:12 AM

Is it a good thing on my most popular player page that 3 of my 5 most popular players are relief pitchers? Everyone loves Goose Gossage I guess.

Alan T · 09-20-2008, 12:14 AM

Freakin Bob Arnold wants $36 million to resign with me.. Someone should explain to him exactly how little worth 1st basemen are in this league.

Chief Rum · 09-20-2008, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

1976 FINAL STANDINGS

Code:

Continental League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Valdosta Peanuts	91	63	.591	-
Baltimore Terrapins	87	67	.565	4.0
Atlanta Firecrackers	86	68	.558	5.0
Toronto Osprey		81	73	.526	10.0
Brooklyn Brownstones	71	83	.461	20.0
New York Highlanders	71	83	.461	20.0
Texas Travelers		68	86	.442	23.0
Rio Grande Roadrunners	61	93	.396	30.0

Republic League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Columbus Crusaders	89	65	.578	-
Hartford Harpooners	87	67	.565	2.0
Long Island Violators	79	75	.513	10.0
Chicago Thunderstorms	76	78	.494	13.0
San Diego Fathers	74	80	.481	15.0
Colorado Rancheros	73	81	.474	16.0
Compton Brothers	70	84	.455	19.0
New Orleans Wrens	68	86	.442	21.0

So what did I say in the preview thread? Astounded if I got to .500 or even last year's 75 wins? Hmm...color me shocked.

I need to send a PM to greygoose, in case he isn't checking in. I think he'll love this.

Also, my instant reaction: this is going to be very, very bad for the longterm development of my team. I know, I know, shut up, Chief, but seriously. This will make me think I am closer than I am, and make me make "now" decisions instead of "future" decisions that could lead to better long term success.

Plus, I was counting on that high draft pick. FTW.

Can someone send me the "tanking" handbook, please? Thanks.

muns · 09-20-2008, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

It looks like Steven imploded. His actual stats from last season kind of go in line with a 36 contact rating though.. but this is one of those things that Markus locked a thread on the OOTP forums just today because it doesn't happen in OOTP anymore

Ya know what, im at a loss for words on how that happens with scouting off.. How there is room for a 70 point drop off in a rating.. Blows my mind, but its not a problem huh....

Well I offically got murdered in the Atlanta deal now, and i have 10 other OF's I could have used this year.....

Very Frustrating

Ramzavail · 09-20-2008, 12:17 AM

again, I have Harmon as a 63.

Alan T · 09-20-2008, 12:17 AM

Oh.. get to face Juan Reyes in the FOOL Classic.. story of a happy 1 star second baseman that I gave a chance, taught him how to play big league ball, made him a star and then slammed the door on his butt as he left town because we wouldn't give him a $13mil a year deal. ugh!

Ruben Mendoza gets his chance to get revenge on me too..

09-19-2008, 11:26 PM	#203
kaosfere College Prospect Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicagoland	Back on topic, while its certainly what I thought might happen this season, I can't say I'm any less disappointed. I knew it would be close, but I hoped I'd be in the running a bit longer. __________________ FOOL: Toronto Osprey (1973-1988) 1161 - 1149 -- 1981 FOOL Champions, 1975 CL Champions Toronto Osprey (2001) 89-73 -- 2001 CL Champions SBL: Charlotte Monarchs (1992-1994) 237 - 186

09-19-2008, 11:27 PM	#205
kaosfere College Prospect Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicagoland	DC, please tell me you have a .psd of that and you just have to change one digit every year. __________________ FOOL: Toronto Osprey (1973-1988) 1161 - 1149 -- 1981 FOOL Champions, 1975 CL Champions Toronto Osprey (2001) 89-73 -- 2001 CL Champions SBL: Charlotte Monarchs (1992-1994) 237 - 186

09-19-2008, 11:29 PM	#209
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	We're going to have to take down the statue of Doc Holiday in order to fit the 1976 one with how large it is! __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-19-2008, 11:39 PM	#213
kaosfere College Prospect Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicagoland	File up soon? I want to know whose fingers I'm going to chop off. __________________ FOOL: Toronto Osprey (1973-1988) 1161 - 1149 -- 1981 FOOL Champions, 1975 CL Champions Toronto Osprey (2001) 89-73 -- 2001 CL Champions SBL: Charlotte Monarchs (1992-1994) 237 - 186

09-19-2008, 11:40 PM	#214
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	File is up! __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

09-19-2008, 11:25 PM	#202
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Familiar?

09-19-2008, 11:28 PM	#206
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	What's cool about this league is, with the history and such alike, we'll be able to recall the dominance of Valdosta's run now -- they might not win another title for 40 years -- but, this era is unique and we have the Champions Row to look back and can cite those teams and the players. It's a neat experiment. Mostly, I was just plugging how CRAZY Valdosta's outfield wall looks. I also posted St. Louis' banners which will be housed at the FOOL Hall of Fame.

09-19-2008, 11:28 PM	#207
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	Alan feel free to hurry up and go delete your posts about what you do. I think the entire league is gonna start to shift to what you do now

09-19-2008, 11:44 PM	#218
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	thanks DC

09-19-2008, 11:45 PM	#219
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	haha thanks! I actually refuse to call them the Padres IRL, I always say Fathers, so thats where it came from.

09-19-2008, 11:48 PM	#221
kaosfere College Prospect Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicagoland	My word. 11-17 in June, including 5 losses to Atlanta, 3 to New York, and 3 to Brooklyn. That killed my season, right there. __________________ FOOL: Toronto Osprey (1973-1988) 1161 - 1149 -- 1981 FOOL Champions, 1975 CL Champions Toronto Osprey (2001) 89-73 -- 2001 CL Champions SBL: Charlotte Monarchs (1992-1994) 237 - 186

09-19-2008, 11:48 PM	#222
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Haha.. I had two starters hit below .200 in the lineup.. sheesh that is ugly. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-19-2008, 11:49 PM	#223
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	awesome job with the colors and logo DC

09-19-2008, 11:53 PM	#226
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	hah! __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

09-19-2008, 11:57 PM	#228
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	The last original Valdosta Peanut has announced his retirement. Billy Stephens has chosen to retire at age 33 after 13 seasons with the Peanut. Unfortunately he wasn't on the big league team this year, it will still be sad to see him leave the league. He'll never be remembered for anything special as he was just another middle relief/setup guy, but he was the heart of my bullpen for years. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-19-2008, 11:59 PM	#229
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Thanks from RG as well DC, we enjoy seeing the uni's and colors back in the 'older' style. The RG can stick around as well, I am perfectly fine with that. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

09-19-2008, 11:59 PM	#231
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	On July 15th, Tanaka hit his 400th homerun. On July 13th he had his 2500th hit. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose! Last edited by Cringer : 09-20-2008 at 12:00 AM.

09-20-2008, 12:00 AM	#232
kaosfere College Prospect Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicagoland	OW! Maresuke Saito, who was awesome last year, completely fell apart this year. He started 5 games in that horrible month of June, and we lost every single one of them. He earned 4 of those losses, which put him at 1-9 with a 4.25 ERA. By the middle of July, he was at 1-11 with a 4.76. NOT what you want from your #3 man. He pulled it together a little in the back half, and finished 7-13, 4.07, but the damage was well and truly done. __________________ FOOL: Toronto Osprey (1973-1988) 1161 - 1149 -- 1981 FOOL Champions, 1975 CL Champions Toronto Osprey (2001) 89-73 -- 2001 CL Champions SBL: Charlotte Monarchs (1992-1994) 237 - 186 Last edited by kaosfere : 09-20-2008 at 12:01 AM.

09-20-2008, 12:06 AM	#235
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Well, Sparks is pretty much done for. Not only was the record bad at 8-12 but he lost 10 points for Stuff as well. Pablo may be forced into the #1 spot of death for RG. My pitching staff is quickly dried up. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

09-20-2008, 12:07 AM	#236
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	alright can someone please look at my roster and tell me what Steven Harmon's Contact rating is? Im showing its 36.... How the hell does it drop from 100 to 36 in one damn file. That was my leadoff hitter..... Can someone else confirm that? Last edited by muns : 09-20-2008 at 12:08 AM.

09-20-2008, 12:07 AM	#237
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	who the hell signed all these shitty ass SPs...good lord.

09-20-2008, 12:08 AM	#239
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Dan Hurley of Brooklyn tied the FOOL record for triples in a season with 23. The previous record of 23 was held by... Dan Hurley in 1973. Stan Miller of Atlanta broke the FOOL record for saves in a season with 51. The previous record of 50 was set by Aaron Daily in 1969, whom was with Compton at the time. Joe Hart of Colorado tied the FOOL record for complete games with 13, which was previously set by Ricardo Torres of Valdosta in 1967. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-20-2008, 12:08 AM	#240
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	Sam Harmon 63

09-20-2008, 12:12 AM	#245
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Is it a good thing on my most popular player page that 3 of my 5 most popular players are relief pitchers? Everyone loves Goose Gossage I guess. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-20-2008, 12:14 AM	#246
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Freakin Bob Arnold wants $36 million to resign with me.. Someone should explain to him exactly how little worth 1st basemen are in this league. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-20-2008, 12:17 AM	#249
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	again, I have Harmon as a 63.

09-20-2008, 12:17 AM	#250
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Oh.. get to face Juan Reyes in the FOOL Classic.. story of a happy 1 star second baseman that I gave a chance, taught him how to play big league ball, made him a star and then slammed the door on his butt as he left town because we wouldn't give him a $13mil a year deal. ugh! Ruben Mendoza gets his chance to get revenge on me too.. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

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