1982 FOOL Offseason Thread! - Page 2

Commo_Soldier · 10-27-2008, 09:47 PM

Also just a hint for the future. FA's will not always sign during this period, so it may be wise to keep the amount you offered to yourself until after the player signs.

TimGuru · 10-27-2008, 09:47 PM

Nonetheless, its still funny that as a lefty, he hits 99 for contact against lefties and 33 vs righties

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TimGuru

Nonetheless, its still funny that as a lefty, he hits 99 for contact against lefties and 33 vs righties

That should get him a cup of coffee at some point. He'd be an awesome platoon for someone.

TimGuru · 10-27-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Also just a hint for the future. FA's will not always sign during this period, so it may be wise to keep the amount you offered to yourself until after the player signs.

I've been implying for 2 hours that I offered him 130 over 10. Or 82 over 8. Or, given recent trends, I went in and rescinded my offer and changed it to a minor league deal.

Pike · 10-27-2008, 09:49 PM

I doubt I'm getting him but this is killer to wait for!

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 09:49 PM

TimGuru · 10-27-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

That should get him a cup of coffee at some point. He'd be an awesome platoon for someone.

Oh, he'll be on my ML roster this year in some capacity, depending on, ya know, stuff. Its possible he is young enough to repair himself and be useful for a few years.

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 09:50 PM

My prediction on "Slider", 2 years 8.5 total.

kaosfere · 10-27-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

That should get him a cup of coffee at some point. He'd be an awesome platoon for someone.

See: Cade Numbers.

muns · 10-27-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TimGuru

I've been implying for 2 hours that I offered him 130 over 10. Or 82 over 8. Or, given recent trends, I went in and rescinded my offer and changed it to a minor league deal.

HA HA

Pike · 10-27-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TimGuru

I've been implying for 2 hours that I offered him 130 over 10. Or 82 over 8. Or, given recent trends, I went in and rescinded my offer and changed it to a minor league deal.

LOL you also dismissed him by saying that VL guys don't always do well in the FOOL. You crafty snake you.

Got a PM for you too, on its way shortly man.

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kaosfere

See: Cade Numbers.

Ouch! Another one of those.

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 09:53 PM

Alan, I think you have a few guys climbing the walls right now.

Alan T · 10-27-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

Alan, I think you have a few guys climbing the walls right now.

Sorry, the "Slider" watch was meant to be a tease that everyone would have to find out in the file. I ran into a snag because of a problem executing one of the trades. Otherwise I had intended the file to be up by now!

Give Toronto/Boston a few minutes and then I'll have the file up and you can see who won the contest for Sanu.

TimGuru · 10-27-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kaosfere

See: Cade Numbers.

yeah i'll take .7xx OPS in a limited role from him.

kaosfere · 10-27-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TimGuru

yeah i'll take .7xx OPS in a limited role from him.

Precisely. At the cost of an extra roster spot, he punishes lefties for a reasonable price.

kaosfere · 10-27-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Give Toronto/Boston a few minutes and then I'll have the file up and you can see who won the contest for Sanu.

Oh god, please don't kill me, gang...

Pike · 10-27-2008, 09:57 PM

I'm just as interested to see where the two stud MR guys went as well. This VL FA period has certainly not disappointed!

Pike · 10-27-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kaosfere

Oh god, please don't kill me, gang...

nah we can't kill the defending champ now. Instead, we'll lynch DC, then beat his carcass--like so:

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Friday, October 16th, 1981
Hartford Harpooners: Signed free agent MR D. Jones to a 1-year contract worth a total of $2,500,000.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent MR C. Yi to a minor league contract.

Ehem.

memememememe

I hate Hartford.

Boston, you're almost on this list as well.

kaosfere · 10-27-2008, 09:59 PM

Since I screwed up, Alan, I don't want DC to feel the need to renegotiate under the pressure of everyone waiting for the file.

Go ahead and put that trade on hold, we can work something out for the next sim.

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kaosfere

Oh god, please don't kill me, gang...

Sure you win the championship and then think you can hold everyone up. Sure. Punk.

Alan T · 10-27-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kaosfere

Since I screwed up, Alan, I don't want DC to feel the need to renegotiate under the pressure of everyone waiting for the file.

Go ahead and put that trade on hold, we can work something out for the next sim.

Ok, packing up the file now.

muns · 10-27-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

Ehem.

memememememe

I hate Hartford.

Boston, you're almost on this list as well.

lol....... what did you offer????

muns · 10-27-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kaosfere

Since I screwed up, Alan, I don't want DC to feel the need to renegotiate under the pressure of everyone waiting for the file.

Go ahead and put that trade on hold, we can work something out for the next sim.

While I dont care much about the file, as I didnt do much tonight as im near the cap, that was pretty nice move Kaos....

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by muns

lol....... what did you offer????

4 years, a little over 4 mil. You beat me fair and square, because I think that 2.5 mil will auto resign now, right?

*edit correction, 4 years almost 5 mil

TimGuru · 10-27-2008, 10:04 PM

Well, I guess I'll find out tomorrow. Night all.

Alan T · 10-27-2008, 10:07 PM

File will be up in 3 minutes and 10 seconds.

muns · 10-27-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

4 years, a little over 4 mil. You beat me fair and square, because I think that 2.5 mil will auto resign now, right?

*edit correction, 4 years almost 5 mil

well i might as well brace for the yell.....

No it wont. It would if he was placed on the MLB team, but he wont make the MLB team this year, so next year that will roll over to a MLC contract

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by muns

well i might as well brace for the yell.....

No it wont. It would if he was placed on the MLB team, but he wont make the MLB team this year, so next year that will roll over to a MLC contract

*kick

*kick
*kick

I really don't like the financial system in this game.

Alan T · 10-27-2008, 10:11 PM

File is up!

muns · 10-27-2008, 10:12 PM

Alan can we get that stickied you think? That way its up there for all to see? that way when we get new guys they know what can happen?

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 10:12 PM

And the league servers get killed.

Alan T · 10-27-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by muns

Alan can we get that stickied you think? That way its up there for all to see? that way when we get new guys they know what can happen?

Yeah, probably should have a seperate financial pointers/helpful hints thread stickied in an organized format that includes info such as this, how some free agents when asking for Minor league contracts will actually sign for those over major league contracts, the various way contract money is used at the end of the season, etc.

I can try to do something along those lines this week.

Young Drachma · 10-27-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pike

nah we can't kill the defending champ now. Instead, we'll lynch DC, then beat his carcass--like so:

Umm...you might just want to hush while you're ahead.

Pike · 10-27-2008, 10:17 PM

Well whatta ya know, he hasn't signed yet. LOL.

So we have to wait until tomorrow?! The horror, the horror!

Pike · 10-27-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Umm...you might just want to hush while you're ahead.

Oh now, don't get pissy. I obviously wasn't being serious.

Tasan · 10-27-2008, 10:19 PM

Wow, not signed yet. Now the hard part.

Young Drachma · 10-27-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pike

Oh now, don't get pissy. I obviously wasn't being serious.

D'oh. I knew that. I was being equally sarcastic back.

Pike · 10-27-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

D'oh. I knew that. I was being equally sarcastic back.

LOL, well as I told someone abit earlier (Kaos I think)... I need a control tower on my head for all the things that fly over.

Pike · 10-27-2008, 10:23 PM

So really....tomorrow before we get closure on Godzilla the Pitcher?

Pike · 10-27-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Also just a hint for the future. FA's will not always sign during this period, so it may be wise to keep the amount you offered to yourself until after the player signs.

LOL, well I don't think anyone was terribly serious about what they offered...but you were dead right about what happened.

It's killer that he didn't sign. I'm out because I'm not offering more than I already did and it says he got a better offer. I guess I'm not surprised, lol.

ekcut · 10-28-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I remember a similar war for Artie Wiley. He ended up not taking the highest 2 or 3 offers and settling for a much smaller offer.

Roger that! I am putting in a respectable bid on him just for the 'What if" scenerio...If you can land him for Wiley money, you have it made!!!!

ekcut · 10-28-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TimGuru

If you want a good head scratcher while waiting, check out Yeow-Whye Liao at my AAA level. Specifically, drill down to his ratings and explain his left-right splits to me.

He got "Harmoned" (ask muns) He suffered the equivelant to a career ending injury. his righty stats were JUSt about equal to his lefties, when one spring he suffered a 60pt drop in his righty contact. That little bugger may have cost me 2 titles....
*rant off*

ekcut · 10-28-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by muns

He got steven harmoned!!!! do a seach for steve harmon and that should hook you up with the scoop on that bad boy

Lol...ahhhh...I should read the whole topic before replying

Chief Rum · 10-28-2008, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pike

Well whatta ya know, he hasn't signed yet. LOL.

So we have to wait until tomorrow?! The horror, the horror!

That's bad news...for everyone else. Because now I can bid.

Pike · 10-28-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That's bad news...for everyone else. Because now I can bid.

UH-OH!

I dunno though Chief, it's gonna be tough to call. I thought my initial offer was stupid high enough that I couldn't not sign the guy, but as I am quickly learning, the premium on pitching here is astronomical.

ekcut · 10-28-2008, 10:12 AM

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UH-OH!

I dunno though Chief, it's gonna be tough to call. I thought my initial offer was stupid high enough that I couldn't not sign the guy, but as I am quickly learning, the premium on pitching here is astronomical.

Personally I think that EVERYONE should avoid bidding on the stud. Paying one player such a high amount will cripple your team and ensure a sub .500 team for many seasons. It is wise to pass on this player and spend your resourses elsewhere....and then "I" can sign him to a cheap contract...Oh wait, that last part was suppose to be my inside voice....

Pike · 10-28-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ekcut

Personally I think that EVERYONE should avoid bidding on the stud. Paying one player such a high amount will cripple your team and ensure a sub .500 team for many seasons. It is wise to pass on this player and spend your resourses elsewhere....and then "I" can sign him to a cheap contract...Oh wait, that last part was suppose to be my inside voice....

LOL. Help me, help me eh?

Joking aside, that is the issue at hand. Can one player, especially a pitcher, win enough games to pay for the astronomical sum it will take to do the job? On the one hand, a team like mine could really, really use a star to hang its hat on...but I got a good look when I started here at what a couple of overpriced guys can do to your team if they don't earn their money.

Decisions, decisions. Its a testament to the league, at least for me personally, that I'm in the middle of negotiating a real-world $500,000 contract and I'm sitting here thinking about FOOL.

Alan T · 10-28-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pike

Joking aside, that is the issue at hand. Can one player, especially a pitcher, win enough games to pay for the astronomical sum it will take to do the job?

This is always a fun question. If you are a big Bill James fan and believe in the value of "win shares" then statistically the absolute best players in the league single handedly account for only 10-11 extra wins. The top pitchers? an extra 6-8 wins.

I guess the deciding factor will be how many wins can you in turn pick up in multiple players if you spend the same amount of money elsewhere?

10-27-2008, 09:47 PM	#52
TimGuru High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA	Nonetheless, its still funny that as a lefty, he hits 99 for contact against lefties and 33 vs righties __________________ FOOL: NY Panthers1974-88 ; Hyannis Patriots 2037-2055 hiatus FOOL-H: NY YANKEES 1903- FOOL-X: Cumberland Defenders 1985-

10-27-2008, 09:49 PM	#56
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	LOL __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

10-27-2008, 09:50 PM	#58
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	My prediction on "Slider", 2 years 8.5 total. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

10-27-2008, 09:53 PM	#63
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	Alan, I think you have a few guys climbing the walls right now. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

10-27-2008, 09:59 PM	#71
kaosfere College Prospect Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicagoland	Since I screwed up, Alan, I don't want DC to feel the need to renegotiate under the pressure of everyone waiting for the file. Go ahead and put that trade on hold, we can work something out for the next sim. __________________ FOOL: Toronto Osprey (1973-1988) 1161 - 1149 -- 1981 FOOL Champions, 1975 CL Champions Toronto Osprey (2001) 89-73 -- 2001 CL Champions SBL: Charlotte Monarchs (1992-1994) 237 - 186

10-27-2008, 09:49 PM	#55
Pike H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arkansas	I doubt I'm getting him but this is killer to wait for!

10-27-2008, 09:57 PM	#68
Pike H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arkansas	I'm just as interested to see where the two stud MR guys went as well. This VL FA period has certainly not disappointed!

10-27-2008, 10:04 PM	#77
TimGuru High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA	Well, I guess I'll find out tomorrow. Night all. __________________ FOOL: NY Panthers1974-88 ; Hyannis Patriots 2037-2055 hiatus FOOL-H: NY YANKEES 1903- FOOL-X: Cumberland Defenders 1985-

10-27-2008, 10:07 PM	#78
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	File will be up in 3 minutes and 10 seconds. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

10-27-2008, 10:11 PM	#81
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	File is up! __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

10-27-2008, 10:12 PM	#82
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	Alan can we get that stickied you think? That way its up there for all to see? that way when we get new guys they know what can happen? Last edited by muns : 10-27-2008 at 10:12 PM.

10-27-2008, 10:12 PM	#83
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	And the league servers get killed. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

10-27-2008, 10:17 PM	#86
Pike H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arkansas	Well whatta ya know, he hasn't signed yet. LOL. So we have to wait until tomorrow?! The horror, the horror!

10-27-2008, 10:19 PM	#88
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	Wow, not signed yet. Now the hard part. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

10-27-2008, 10:23 PM	#91
Pike H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arkansas	So really....tomorrow before we get closure on Godzilla the Pitcher?

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