1984 Offseason Thread

[Alan T]

It is sim time, lets get this show on the road!

[Alan T]

No export from Brooklyn, Chicago, Hartford, Toronto

[Alan T]

Awards from 1983:

Continental League:
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MVP:
1) Charlie Wilson (TOR)
2) Jose Gonzales (NVY)
3) Ed Morgan (TOR)

Pitcher of the Year:
1) Jessie McGorry (NVY)
2) Joe Hart (NVY)
3) Tu-fu Qian (ATL)

Rookie of the Year:

1) Marcos Martinez (BAL)
2) Ron Clarke (ATL)
3) Ramon Berrios (BKN)

Republic League:
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MVP:

1) Bobby Barrett (SD)
2) Steven McGill (HAR)
3) George Baker (HAR)

Pitcher of the Year:

1) Billy Smith (HAR)
2) Dylan Robinson (HAR)
3) Jorge Aquino (HAR)

Rookie of the Year:

1) Mauro Ibarra (COL)
2) William Pennington (BOS)
3) Dae-yun Ch'oe (HAR)

[Alan T]

Monday, October 31st, 1983: FOOL News: Free Agents File
Front Office Offseason League announced the start of the free agency period today.

Players with expiring contracts began to file as the clock struck midnight and general managers were already making the rounds. With the opening of free agency came a predictable chorus of speculation from the media.

While most teams are likely to make at least some small moves, it's still uncertain who the movers and shakers will be. Reporters expect a lot of attention to be lavished on the cream of the free agent crop, including these players:


1. Raúl Ortíz, 32 year-old starting pitcher
2. Dave Hardee, 36 year-old starting pitcher
3. Gilbert Perreault, 32 year-old starting pitcher
4. Gareth Simons, 24 year-old shortstop
5. Paul Wilson, 30 year-old starting pitcher
6. Jonas Leis, 30 year-old starting pitcher
7. Arturo Pereira, 30 year-old starting pitcher
8. Cipriano Bruno, 30 year-old reliever
9. Roger Frederick, 32 year-old reliever
10. Máximo López, 28 year-old reliever

Signings can continue throughout the off-season, although most of the high quality players are expected to conclude negotiations long before then. Most players want to be well paid, but they also want to get settled so they can start the process of moving family across town or across the country.

[ekcut]

Man...Ramiro Rodriquez shafted in both the pitcher of the year and the ROTY awards...14-8 and a 1.94era and he didn't even make 3rd on either list. For shame OOTP, for shame!!!

[Alan T]

Saturday, October 8th, 1983
Toronto Osprey: 3B S. Perkins retires.
Columbus Crusaders: C B. Sampson retires.
Boston Bombers: 1B R. Haas retires.
Boston Bombers: MR I. García retires.

Sunday, October 9th, 1983
New York Panthers: Signed C D. Romero to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed CF F. Herrera to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,150,000.
New York Panthers: Signed C H. Williams to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $2,550,000.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed CL D. Marnane to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $4,500,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed 2B F. Bolden to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed SP I. Espinosa to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $450,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed MR D. O'Neal to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,470,000.
Ann Arbor Wolverines: Signed LF J. Olivas to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $6,570,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed CF G. Salinas to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $1,455,000.

Monday, October 10th, 1983
San Diego Fathers: Signed RF B. Douglas to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed MR T. Beck to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed SP J. Méndez to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed 2B R. Stace to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $2,540,000.
New York Panthers: Signed 3B R. Williams to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $730,000.
New York Panthers: Signed SP H. Telfer to a minor league contract extension.

Tuesday, October 11th, 1983
New York Panthers: Signed SP D. Shepard to a minor league contract extension.
New York Panthers: Signed RF L. Pizzoli to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,840,000.
Wyoming Buffalo Soliders: Signed 1B E. Sánchez to a minor league contract extension.
New York Panthers: Signed C J. Berrios to a minor league contract extension.

Wednesday, October 12th, 1983
Long Island Violators: Signed RF D. Perkins to a minor league contract extension.
Long Island Violators: Signed SP B. Reynoso to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $908,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed CF J. Burgemeester to a minor league contract extension.
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed RF Z. Eassson to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $2,460,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed CF G. Salsman to a minor league contract extension.

Thursday, October 13th, 1983
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed C H. Tanaka to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,620,000.
Boston Bombers: Signed SP C. Gilbert to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $2,480,000.
New York Panthers: Signed CF D. Harper to a minor league contract extension.
New York Panthers: Signed RF A. Shoemaker to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,690,000.
Napa Valley Winemakers: Signed 3B K. Nishida to a 6-year contract extension worth a total of $50,850,000.
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed 1B J. Rigsby to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $4,750,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed C H. Sims to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $1,200,000.
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed SP P. Guerrero to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $910,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed RF J. Quinborough to a minor league contract extension.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed RF P. Quintana to a minor league contract extension.
Long Island Violators: Signed 1B C. Walley to a minor league contract extension.
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed MR K. Ramey to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,830,000.
New York Panthers: Signed MR T. Robertson to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $455,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed C A. Salinas to a minor league contract extension.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed RF L. Pérez to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,220,000.
New York Panthers: Signed 3B A. Cardenas to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $780,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed SS A. McCaw to a minor league contract extension.
New York Panthers: Signed 2B J. Gil to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed CF M. Daniels to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $10,425,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed RF J. Vincent to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed 1B A. Bruno to a minor league contract extension.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed RF S. Allen to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed 3B J. Peters to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed MR J. Álvarez to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed LF M. Sánchez to a minor league contract extension.
San Diego Fathers: Signed CF M. Johnson to a minor league contract extension.
Boston Bombers: Signed SP W. Pennington to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $1,590,000.

Sunday, October 16th, 1983
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent RF E. Richard to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,030,000.

Tuesday, October 18th, 1983
Colorado Rancheros: Signed free agent SP A. Newman to a 2-year contract worth a total of $410,000.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent CF D. O'Cleary to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,350,000.

Wednesday, October 19th, 1983
Long Island Violators: Signed free agent 2B P. Turner to a minor league contract.

Friday, October 21st, 1983
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent MR A. McPherson to a 1-year contract worth a total of $190,000.

Monday, October 24th, 1983
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent SP F. Sánchez to a 3-year contract worth a total of $2,055,000.
Long Island Violators: Signed free agent 1B S. Mathis to a minor league contract.

Tuesday, October 25th, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent 1B E. Cherry to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,160,000.

Friday, October 28th, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent LF B. Black to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,150,000.

Saturday, October 29th, 1983
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent 2B J. Chase to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,150,000.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent SP W. Krant to a 2-year contract worth a total of $415,000.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent SS R. Cruz to a 3-year contract worth a total of $3,515,000.

[Young Drachma]

Fucking Simons. I hate you. I offer you what you want and you still leave. Well rot in hell you stupid Aussie.

[Tasan]

This is going to be an interesting free agency.

Oh and YAY Ibarra, one of possibly many we'll have over the next couple of years.

[Alan T]

New file is up!

[Ramzavail]

Bobby Barrett boo-yah.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

Bobby Barrett boo-yah.

If it is worth much, when I did a ton of run throughs trying to find better player valuations a while back, Bobby Barrett was the only player who considered himself fully to be a "Super-Star" player in all regards in his own self-evaluation and contract demands. I found that interesting since he hadn't fully blossomed yet at that point.

[Ramzavail]

and he's not even that expensive at 6.64m for the next 3 years. not even in the top 25 of salary.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Ramzavail

and he's not even that expensive at 6.64m for the next 3 years. not even in the top 25 of salary.

Did you re-sign him before he hit his peak years (26-27-28) or so? Mostly just curious.. I would expect based off of the experiments earlier that he would ask for more if it was when he was age 27 or 28.

[Ramzavail]

signed him in 1980, so he was 27.

edit: he has 2 years left.

[Alan T]

About to kick off tonight's sim. Before I do, I would like to thank everyone who responded to the survey that I sent out today to all of the current owners other than Brittdad who had just joined. I received well written, well thought out responses from every team except two. I want to wait until tommorrow before I respond to any of them so I can see the responses from the last two teams (if they choose to do so).

[Alan T]

Getting exports now

[Chief Rum]

Hi Alan.

[Tasan]

Lets get this thing going. I think everyone knows the question tonight.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Tasan

Lets get this thing going. I think everyone knows the question tonight.

Yes, did I spend enough?!

[Tasan]

I'm betting I didn't, but we'll see.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Tasan

I'm betting I didn't, but we'll see.

I think the equally challenging part is how many years to offer and if any should be option years.

[TimGuru]

I passed on Simons, hoping to snag lesser talent. Still not ready for prime time and I don't know if Simons is a part I need a couple years from now.

[Alan T]

Tuesday, November 1st, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent SP J. Matos to a 2-year contract worth a total of $990,000.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed RF S. Allen to a minor league contract extension.
Columbus Crusaders: Signed free agent 1B J. Rodríguez to a minor league contract.

Wednesday, November 2nd, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed SS P. Warner to a 3-year contract extension worth a total of $1,470,000.

Friday, November 4th, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent CF K. Kelley to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,880,000.

Saturday, November 5th, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed RF P. Quintana to a minor league contract extension.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed SP E. Trosclair to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $935,000.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent SS C. Andrew to a 3-year contract worth a total of $2,405,000.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed RF M. Zuwiski to a minor league contract extension.
Brooklyn Brownstones: Signed MR R. Reyes to a 1-year contract extension worth a total of $1,215,000.
Brooklyn Brownstones: Signed CF R. Lang to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,530,000.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed 3B J. López to a minor league contract extension.

Monday, November 7th, 1983
Ann Arbor Wolverines: Signed free agent C C. Johnston to a minor league contract.


Tuesday, November 8th, 1983
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent MR B. Ellsworth to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,230,000.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent 1B R. Butler to a minor league contract.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent SP G. Perreault to a 1-year contract worth a total of $805,000.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent 1B S. Ortíz to a minor league contract.

Wednesday, November 9th, 1983
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent 1B H. Barber to a minor league contract.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent 1B G. Zhang to a minor league contract.

[Alan T]

Friday, November 11th, 1983
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent 2B G. Jetté to a 2-year contract worth a total of $560,000.

Saturday, November 12th, 1983
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed free agent C P. Delgado to a 1-year contract worth a total of $705,000.


Sunday, November 13th, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent MR P. Camacho to a 1-year contract worth a total of $555,000.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent CF L. Valdés to a 1-year contract worth a total of $665,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed free agent RF M. Sato to a 2-year contract worth a total of $565,000.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent C G. Espinosa to a minor league contract.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent 2B A. Pérez to a minor league contract.

Tuesday, November 15th, 1983
San Diego Fathers: Signed free agent CF A. Sánchez to a minor league contract.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent CF T. Parker to a minor league contract.

Wednesday, November 16th, 1983
San Diego Fathers: Signed free agent MR E. Cummings to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,270,000.

Thursday, November 17th, 1983
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent RF M. Veillette to a minor league contract.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent C T. Johnston to a minor league contract.
San Diego Fathers: Signed free agent 3B M. Taylor to a 1-year contract worth a total of $820,000.
Ann Arbor Wolverines: Signed free agent CF D. Myers to a minor league contract.

Friday, November 18th, 1983
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent C B. Johnston to a minor league contract.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent MR T. Hanson to a 1-year contract worth a total of $335,000.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent 1B R. Robinson to a minor league contract.

Saturday, November 19th, 1983
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent MR S. Iles to a 2-year contract worth a total of $1,280,000.
Ann Arbor Wolverines: Signed free agent 1B R. Crawford to a minor league contract.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent CF A. Muñóz to a minor league contract.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent LF W. Davis to a minor league contract.

Sunday, November 20th, 1983
Colorado Rancheros: Signed free agent 2B C. White to a 2-year contract worth a total of $500,000.
Columbus Crusaders: Signed free agent 1B A. López to a 4-year contract worth a total of $29,690,000.

[Alan T]

Monday, November 21st, 1983
Colorado Rancheros: Signed free agent SS G. Simons to a 6-year contract worth a total of $103,520,000.

Wednesday, November 23rd, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent 3B T. Dale to a minor league contract.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent 3B J. Negrete to a 5-year contract worth a total of $22,275,000.
Colorado Rancheros: Signed free agent LF G. McKay to a 2-year contract worth a total of $4,550,000.
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed free agent SP R. Fritz to a 3-year contract worth a total of $32,700,000.
Boston Bombers: Signed free agent SP A. Pereira to a 4-year contract worth a total of $20,240,000.
San Diego Fathers: Signed free agent MR S. Beauchamp to a 2-year contract worth a total of $4,070,000.
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed free agent C M. Galló to a minor league contract.

Thursday, November 24th, 1983
New York Panthers: Signed free agent 1B C. Trujillo to a 2-year contract worth a total of $4,930,000.
Rio Grande Roadrunners: Signed free agent LF S. Patterson to a 4-year contract worth a total of $42,600,000.
Atlanta Firecrackers: Signed free agent C B. Hernández to a minor league contract.
Ann Arbor Wolverines: Signed free agent CF W. Pearson to a 2-year contract worth a total of $4,380,000.

Friday, November 25th, 1983
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent MR R. Martínez to a 1-year contract worth a total of $330,000.
Baltimore Gothams: Signed free agent MR S. Cash to a 1-year contract worth a total of $675,000.

Sunday, November 27th, 1983
New York Panthers: Signed free agent 2B A. Henry to a 4-year contract worth a total of $28,950,000.

Monday, November 28th, 1983
Columbus Crusaders: Signed free agent MR R. Howe to a 1-year contract worth a total of $1,930,000.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Tuesday, November 1st, 1983
Brooklyn Brownstones: Signed CF R. Lang to a 2-year contract extension worth a total of $1,530,000.

And I'm unable to part with Lang, now we go for 3,000 hits; 1,000 RBIs; 200 3Bs; and 1250 SBs before he retires.

[Tasan]

Apparently the Fathers have the MLC touch tonight.

[Chief Rum]

Way to go, Tasan. Wow, that's a lot of cash.

And ekcut gets Tim Dale, he who turns down money for MLCs. I offered him an MLC, too, of course, but I never seem to win those on really good players.

I will say this, though, I offered MLCs around like candy, and there were some bites for the Crackers.

[Tasan]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Monday, November 21st, 1983
Colorado Rancheros: Signed free agent SS G. Simons to a 6-year contract worth a total of $103,520,000.

That, folks, might be the last piece. Get ready, here we come.

Originally Posted by Alan T

Ann Arbor Wolverines: Signed free agent CF W. Pearson to a 2-year contract worth a total of $4,380,000.

Thats a real nice sign. I didn't go quite high enough, though same years. He's gonna be real good I think.

[TimGuru]

I'm happy with Henry for the discounted price of 29 mil.

Did Ramon Chavez sign with anyone? I didn't see him in the list.

[Tasan]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Way to go, Tasan. Wow, that's a lot of cash.

And ekcut gets Tim Dale, he who turns down money for MLCs. I offered him an MLC, too, of course, but I never seem to win those on really good players.

I will say this, though, I offered MLCs around like candy, and there were some bites for the Crackers.

Yeah it is. I crunched my budget for the next 5 years to make sure he fit comfortably. It does, with room to spare.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by TimGuru

I'm happy with Henry for the discounted price of 29 mil.

Did Ramon Chavez sign with anyone? I didn't see him in the list.

Nope, side effect of the extended playoffs meant a shorter day 1 of free agency and less players signing. There are stilll the following free agents left:

1 5-star
2 4.5 star
3 4-star
1 3.5-star

[Tasan]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Nope, side effect of the extended playoffs meant a shorter day 1 of free agency and less players signing. There are stilll the following free agents left:

1 5-star
2 4.5 star
3 4-star
1 3.5-star

Whew, I'm glad Simons signed then. I did NOT want to go through what I had to get "Slider".

[Tasan]

Oh and does anyone want 2B Chris White? I'm really not sure why I signed him. For some reason he wound up on my list and got an offer though. I really need to do these things when I'm fully awake.

[TimGuru]

Signing of the sim is Fritz by Rio Grande. That guy will OWN in the CL.

[Tasan]

Oh and a BIG thanks to DC for letting Simons slip away.

[Alan T]

New file is up! I fully plan on responding to everyone's PMs tommorrow at some point as well.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Tasan

Oh and does anyone want 2B Chris White? I'm really not sure why I signed him. For some reason he wound up on my list and got an offer though. I really need to do these things when I'm fully awake.

Heh...you're stuck with him for a season.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by TimGuru

Signing of the sim is Fritz by Rio Grande. That guy will OWN in the CL.

Last thing I needed was another strong starting pitcher (I mean, next to other needs). But I saw him out there. I wondered who would nab him. You're right, I think Cringer did very well there.

[Tasan]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Last thing I needed was another strong starting pitcher (I mean, next to other needs). But I saw him out there. I wondered who would nab him. You're right, I think Cringer did very well there.

Oh come on, admit it. You were beaten out by $2 and a bag of fritos!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Tasan

Apparently the Fathers have the MLC touch tonight.

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I will say this, though, I offered MLCs around like candy, and there were some bites for the Crackers.

Not sure if I'll ever be able to prove my theory on MLCs but Hartford did not export tonight, the next two teams numerically are Atlanta and San Diego though.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Tasan

Oh come on, admit it. You were beaten out by $2 and a bag of fritos!

lol...I wish I had that sorta cap space. I had all of $2.5 M to offer around. Big whoopee!

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Not sure if I'll ever be able to prove my theory on MLCs but Hartford did not export tonight, the next two teams numerically are Atlanta and San Diego though.

San Diego musta got the good ones then, because I signed a ton of prospects--almost all of whom are probably marginal.

I think Tim Guru has labeled it "Chief Rum's Phil Deen Approach To Minor League System Development".

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Not sure if I'll ever be able to prove my theory on MLCs but Hartford did not export tonight, the next two teams numerically are Atlanta and San Diego though.

It's a good start.

So Hartford is #1 numerically? Figures.

[Tasan]

Well I'm done with big splashes unless a certain player somehow suddenly hits the market. I'm not holding my breath either.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Tasan

Oh and a BIG thanks to DC for letting Simons slip away.

That's evil. Much as I didn't like that deal, DC got hosed in the aftermath. I don't know if he even offered Pereira, but I know he was out there, and then Simons doesn't even accept the offer he himself said he would accept? I can't stand that. The Meet Demand button should practically be an automatic extension signing (but purposely, the game should make the "Meet Demand" numbers high, even higher than the market, which of course, OOTP struggles to do).

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Tasan

Well I'm done with big splashes unless a certain player somehow suddenly hits the market. I'm not holding my breath either.

What player is that? Barrett? Billy Smith?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

It's a good start.

So Hartford is #1 numerically? Figures.

One thing that I always laughed at, but never really mentioned it because I didn't want to sound petty.. Every team has a team number in the 200s except the two expansion teams that came in the mid 1960s who had team numbers in the 400s.... and Valdosta. For some reason I had a team number in the 500s.. no idea why.. but I always laughed at that

On a serious note, I have plans to do some testing in regards to how MLC sign, and try to have a solution to balance it out a bit better in this league.. but I kind of have bigger fish to fry this week evidently...

[Young Drachma]

I didn't let him go. I offered him extensions all year long. But it wasn't good enough. I'm fine to let him go for all of the money you offered him, as my plan is to spend minimally for the entire decade.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

One thing that I always laughed at, but never really mentioned it because I didn't want to sound petty.. Every team has a team number in the 200s except the two expansion teams that came in the mid 1960s who had team numbers in the 400s.... and Valdosta. For some reason I had a team number in the 500s.. no idea why.. but I always laughed at that

On a serious note, I have plans to do some testing in regards to how MLC sign, and try to have a solution to balance it out a bit better in this league.. but I kind of have bigger fish to fry this week evidently...

Valdosta...

I have been thinking of moving one my minor league franchises there and sullying the good name of the Peanuts. What say you, Alan?