Lost, Season 2 - Page 4

Ksyrup · 09-30-2005, 10:41 AM

I'm not reading this thread at all, but if the title was changed to keep that damn song out of our heads, then I applaud you.

Glengoyne · 09-30-2005, 10:59 AM

I'm in the camp that feels the Michael character/actor is THE weak link among the key roles in the series. I can't relate to him, and I don't think his background scenes are all that well put together unless they include Walt. I feel the writing and character development are probably more to blame than his acting, because I have liked him previously. It has reached the point that when they flash-back Michael, I don't care. I watch, but I don't care unless Walt is there.

In fact the people/person in this thread who talked about his acting on the raft brings up a good example. I just thought he was more annoying in ways that I don't relate to at all. Maybe I'm too obtuse to follow his character.

gottimd · 09-30-2005, 11:12 AM

Who are you calling obtuse?

timmynausea · 09-30-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I'm in the camp that feels the Michael character/actor is THE weak link among the key roles in the series. I can't relate to him, and I don't think his background scenes are all that well put together unless they include Walt. I feel the writing and character development are probably more to blame than his acting, because I have liked him previously. It has reached the point that when they flash-back Michael, I don't care. I watch, but I don't care unless Walt is there.

In fact the people/person in this thread who talked about his acting on the raft brings up a good example. I just thought he was more annoying in ways that I don't relate to at all. Maybe I'm too obtuse to follow his character.

I agree with this, and think that he may be the next to go because he doesn't bring anything to the show. It'd be a big deal for him to die, though, still, because of Walt.

Samdari · 09-30-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

She sucks as well, but the character is quite low-key by comparsion. They're playing to her strengths.

Sitting there looking pretty? You have a point.

judicial clerk · 09-30-2005, 07:15 PM

I thouht it was interesting that Terry Tate is on the island.

Samdari · 09-30-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm not reading this thread at all, but if the title was changed to keep that damn song out of our heads, then I applaud you.

Change it back! Change it back! Change it back!

Yellow5 · 10-02-2005, 12:50 PM

Complete Visual Analysis of Hatch Interior (+ Maps!)

hxxp://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=14883

Lots of screen caps and spoilers from the last episode. This guy actually mapped the hatch complex and appears to have far too much time on his hands.

Poli · 10-02-2005, 12:58 PM

NoMyths · 10-02-2005, 01:22 PM

And for our British friends: here's the trailer they're using to promote Lost. It's also incredibly cool.

http://homepage.mac.com/mprieve/.Public/lost.mpg

Poli · 10-05-2005, 08:56 PM

Err, did Desmond just say he wasn't married to broken back girl anymore?

timmynausea · 10-05-2005, 09:01 PM

Holy shit!

cthomer5000 · 10-05-2005, 09:01 PM

This show is so frustratingly good.

moriarty · 10-05-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Err, did Desmond just say he wasn't married to broken back girl anymore?

He said Jack wasn't still married to her, and Jack confirmed.

Thought it was a bit of a lame ending w/ Jack making "the decision".

But very interesting preview for next week involving Jin.

Easy Mac · 10-05-2005, 09:03 PM

now that was a great episode.

cthomer5000 · 10-05-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

But very interesting preview for next week involving Jin.

interesting is an understatement. damn previews!

NoMyths · 10-05-2005, 09:06 PM

Knew those cats were other survivors of the crash.

VPI97 · 10-05-2005, 09:06 PM

This episode kicked ass.

I came twice.

Poli · 10-05-2005, 09:16 PM

And, ehm, how does Desmond plan to leave the island?

Celeval · 10-05-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

Thought it was a bit of a lame ending w/ Jack making "the decision".

The open question is, did he do it in time. The clock went to 0.

BishopMVP · 10-05-2005, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

And, ehm, how does Desmond plan to leave the island?

He was sailing around the world (Vendee Globe would be my guess.) His boat still has to be there somewhere... he'd probably have a much better chance of sailing away from there than Michael/Jin/Sawyer.

Also, I've been wondering since the first show approximately how big the island is. I think it only had that one mountain, so it can't be that big for all the different groups running around and never meeting up. We know that Sayid/Charlie could get across the island to the smoke in a few hours tops when "The Others" were coming, and we know Michelle Rodriguez was on the plane, so why didn't she/possibly the rest of the people she is with come towards the huge bonfire that was the plane for the first couple days?

And what exactly did Jin say again during the preview?

panerd · 10-05-2005, 09:25 PM

Calling all students of religion. Is there a famous Bible verse 10:8 about faith? (I will be doing an internet search but don't know where that will lead) I get the feeling we are headed to a science vs. faith showdown between Locke and Jack and maybe 108 on the clock is a hidden Bible reference. (I made this up on my own. So either I am really intuitive or really reading way to into this. Like the guy with the virtual hatch website)

panerd · 10-05-2005, 09:32 PM

Result of search: Romans 10:8 has something to do with taking a leap of faith. But my guess is about 50% of the Bible deals with that same subject.

cthomer5000 · 10-05-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

And what exactly did Jin say again during the preview?

Something to the effect of "everything is going to change now" i think.

John Galt · 10-05-2005, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths

Knew those cats were other survivors of the crash.

You were (I was wrong on that one). I still believe there are other "others." Otherwise, Ethan is a mystery and you have to discount the French Lady entirely (which you can do, but I think some of her story has got to be true).

Bearcat729 · 10-05-2005, 09:45 PM

Have fun

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/mission.html

Bearcat729 · 10-05-2005, 09:48 PM

dola

http://dharmaindustries.com/

Although this doesn't seem to do much

BishopMVP · 10-05-2005, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

I still believe there are other "others." Otherwise, Ethan is a mystery and you have to discount the French Lady entirely (which you can do, but I think some of her story has got to be true).

There's no way crash survivors could have built the boat that took Walt.

cody8200 · 10-05-2005, 10:04 PM

Jin can now speak english apparently saying,. "theres a lot of changes around here" or something to that effect. WTF man, he hasnt been able to speak english this wehole entire time. Damn he kept that charade up forever.

kingfc22 · 10-06-2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by timmynausea

Holy shit!

Holy Shit Indeed!!

Damn that was a freaking good episode. Jin speaks english clearly now?

I think Jin is going to go to the "dark side", just a hunch. Somebody has to switch sides, right?

The "others" are from the back of the plane? But, then how does Rosseau know about them?

kingfc22 · 10-06-2005, 01:21 AM

And did the film say this was station 3 of the whole program, or just station 3 of the island? Going to have to watch this episode again.

Woot! Favorite show on TV.

Schmidty · 10-06-2005, 04:08 AM

I hope they kill off Jack. That dude is annoying as hell.

sovereignstar · 10-06-2005, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I hope they kill off Jack. That dude is annoying as hell.

Now now, have some faith in him.

timmynausea · 10-06-2005, 04:18 AM

Everyone probably already knows this but originally Jack was supposed to die in the pilot. That would've been pretty sweet.

gottimd · 10-06-2005, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

You were (I was wrong on that one). I still believe there are other "others." Otherwise, Ethan is a mystery and you have to discount the French Lady entirely (which you can do, but I think some of her story has got to be true).

If you look closely in the promo and in the beginning of this episode when they see the four presumably others (the four people standing on the rock when Jin, Michael, Sawyer come ashore), the guy on the far left is wearing relatively modern clothes and the fourth person on the back right was Michelle Rodriguezs character. (Picture is here: hxxp://www.mccloud.homestead.com/ana.jpg)

Still confused as to how Jin all of the sudden knows perfect english or why he was hiding or pretending not to know it. Obviously they did a background story on why his wife did. Maybe he is repeating what someone said to him?

Raiders Army · 10-06-2005, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Holy Shit Indeed!!

Damn that was a freaking good episode. Jin speaks english clearly now?

I think Jin is going to go to the "dark side", just a hunch. Somebody has to switch sides, right?

The "others" are from the back of the plane? But, then how does Rosseau know about them?

I agree that Jin will get "infected" and go to the dark side. I also think that the ones who captured Sawyer, Mike and Jin aren't the others.

That means there were these groups on the island:

1. Jack's group from the front of the plane

2. Girlfight's group from the back of the plane

3. Rousseau's others (who were ones who took Walt...remember they wanted the child)

4. Rousseau

5. The hatch people

6. Possibly another group that could've been with the pilot

gottimd · 10-06-2005, 06:16 AM

The one that Desmond spoke of, named Kelvin, his old partner, do you think that could possibly be he Hurley befriended in the Psych ward? Does Desmond believe Kelvin is dead because he ventured outside of the hatch and never returned?

timmynausea · 10-06-2005, 06:28 AM

The guy from the psych ward was named Leonard Sims, but there was more to it. I don't really remember that well.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-06-2005, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I hope they kill off Jack. That dude is annoying as hell.

He has been acting like an ass.

gottimd · 10-06-2005, 06:38 AM

Jin speaking english was probably a dream sequence. Why wouldn't he have used it before? Why not speak to his wife in english when she spoke in english? Why was he so clean (like just showered up) when they showed him saying that in the previews?

timmynausea · 10-06-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

The one that Desmond spoke of, named Kelvin, his old partner, do you think that could possibly be he Hurley befriended in the Psych ward? Does Desmond believe Kelvin is dead because he ventured outside of the hatch and never returned?

Ok, I looked it up. This is all from Hurley's episode last year, 1.18. The guy from the psych ward was Leonard Sims, and he told Hurley that he heard the numbers from Sam Toomey in Australia. So Hurley heads to Australia, but finds out that Toomey is dead.
I think you're probably right that there must have been some connection between Toomey and Calvin or Kelvin or whatever, though.

moriarty · 10-06-2005, 07:48 AM

All right, so what's the odds that the Dharma project is funded by Locke's father? The mysterious guy that we only could hazily see through the office window???

QuikSand · 10-06-2005, 07:50 AM

I'm so lame - I can't even read this thread because all three episodes are sitting on my Tivo, still unwatched. Maybe this weekend.

damned poker, screwing up all my dumb old habits...

moriarty · 10-06-2005, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

I'm so lame - I can't even read this thread because all three episodes are sitting on my Tivo, still unwatched. Maybe this weekend.

damned poker, screwing up all my dumb old habits...

Dude, you have to catch up to at least last night's episode. All of a sudden things started moving in fast forward ....

timmynausea · 10-06-2005, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

All right, so what's the odds that the Dharma project is funded by Locke's father? The mysterious guy that we only could hazily see through the office window???

I considered that as well. It was hard to tell, though.

gottimd · 10-06-2005, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by timmynausea

I considered that as well. It was hard to tell, though.

Possible, yes, likely, no.

G-Man · 10-06-2005, 09:06 AM

"But what does it say? "The Word is near your mouth and in your heart";that is, the Word of Faith which we proclaim;"

This is from the Modern King James Version.

I hope that whoever had this idea about the scientific vs the spiritual (what some call "religious") does indeed refer to this verse because then maybe that would lead to verse 10:9 "Because if you confess the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved." Now that's powerful good stuff

judicial clerk · 10-06-2005, 09:23 AM

Is it just me o have they moved the story forward more in the last three episodes then they did all last season?

Also, in every scene with young Locke, I keep waiting for some catastrophic event that paralyzes him.

gottimd · 10-06-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by judicial clerk

Is it just me o have they moved the story forward more in the last three episodes then they did all last season?

Also, in every scene with young Locke, I keep waiting for some catastrophic event that paralyzes him.

Yes, but that is because the first season, we as the viewers were being introduced to the island, now we are beginning to learn its secrets. The only thing I hope they do not do is reveal too much too fast where the mystery portion of the show is eliminated and it becomes just another sci-fi series or something like that. Just reveal as much to keep you reeled in and wondering and talking about it.

judicial clerk · 10-06-2005, 09:37 AM

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Yes, but that is because the first season, we as the viewers were being introduced to the island, now we are beginning to learn its secrets. The only thing I hope they do not do is reveal too much too fast where the mystery portion of the show is eliminated and it becomes just another sci-fi series or something like that. Just reveal as much to keep you reeled in and wondering and talking about it.
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my thoughts as well.

09-30-2005, 10:41 AM	#151
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm not reading this thread at all, but if the title was changed to keep that damn song out of our heads, then I applaud you. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-30-2005, 11:12 AM	#153
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Who are you calling obtuse? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

10-02-2005, 12:50 PM	#158
Yellow5 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tacoma, Wa.	Complete Visual Analysis of Hatch Interior (+ Maps!) hxxp://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=14883 Lots of screen caps and spoilers from the last episode. This guy actually mapped the hatch complex and appears to have far too much time on his hands. __________________ Xbox Gamertag: m0nk3y b0t

10-02-2005, 12:58 PM	#159
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Wow. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-05-2005, 08:56 PM	#161
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Err, did Desmond just say he wasn't married to broken back girl anymore? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

09-30-2005, 10:59 AM	#152
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I'm in the camp that feels the Michael character/actor is THE weak link among the key roles in the series. I can't relate to him, and I don't think his background scenes are all that well put together unless they include Walt. I feel the writing and character development are probably more to blame than his acting, because I have liked him previously. It has reached the point that when they flash-back Michael, I don't care. I watch, but I don't care unless Walt is there. In fact the people/person in this thread who talked about his acting on the raft brings up a good example. I just thought he was more annoying in ways that I don't relate to at all. Maybe I'm too obtuse to follow his character.

09-30-2005, 07:15 PM	#156
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	I thouht it was interesting that Terry Tate is on the island.

10-02-2005, 01:22 PM	#160
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	And for our British friends: here's the trailer they're using to promote Lost. It's also incredibly cool. http://homepage.mac.com/mprieve/.Public/lost.mpg

10-05-2005, 09:01 PM	#162
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Holy shit!

10-05-2005, 09:03 PM	#165
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	now that was a great episode.

10-05-2005, 09:06 PM	#167
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Knew those cats were other survivors of the crash.

10-05-2005, 09:06 PM	#168
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	This episode kicked ass. I came twice. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

10-05-2005, 09:16 PM	#169
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	And, ehm, how does Desmond plan to leave the island? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-05-2005, 09:25 PM	#172
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Calling all students of religion. Is there a famous Bible verse 10:8 about faith? (I will be doing an internet search but don't know where that will lead) I get the feeling we are headed to a science vs. faith showdown between Locke and Jack and maybe 108 on the clock is a hidden Bible reference. (I made this up on my own. So either I am really intuitive or really reading way to into this. Like the guy with the virtual hatch website)

10-05-2005, 09:32 PM	#173
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Result of search: Romans 10:8 has something to do with taking a leap of faith. But my guess is about 50% of the Bible deals with that same subject.

10-05-2005, 09:45 PM	#176
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	Have fun http://www.thehansofoundation.org/mission.html

10-05-2005, 09:48 PM	#177
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	dola http://dharmaindustries.com/ Although this doesn't seem to do much

10-05-2005, 10:04 PM	#179
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	Jin can now speak english apparently saying,. "theres a lot of changes around here" or something to that effect. WTF man, he hasnt been able to speak english this wehole entire time. Damn he kept that charade up forever.

10-06-2005, 01:21 AM	#181
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	And did the film say this was station 3 of the whole program, or just station 3 of the island? Going to have to watch this episode again. Woot! Favorite show on TV. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-06-2005, 04:08 AM	#182
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I hope they kill off Jack. That dude is annoying as hell. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-06-2005, 04:18 AM	#184
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Everyone probably already knows this but originally Jack was supposed to die in the pilot. That would've been pretty sweet.

10-06-2005, 06:16 AM	#187
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	The one that Desmond spoke of, named Kelvin, his old partner, do you think that could possibly be he Hurley befriended in the Psych ward? Does Desmond believe Kelvin is dead because he ventured outside of the hatch and never returned? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

10-06-2005, 06:28 AM	#188
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	The guy from the psych ward was named Leonard Sims, but there was more to it. I don't really remember that well.

10-06-2005, 06:38 AM	#190
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Jin speaking english was probably a dream sequence. Why wouldn't he have used it before? Why not speak to his wife in english when she spoke in english? Why was he so clean (like just showered up) when they showed him saying that in the previews? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

10-06-2005, 07:48 AM	#192
moriarty College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: A negative place	All right, so what's the odds that the Dharma project is funded by Locke's father? The mysterious guy that we only could hazily see through the office window???

10-06-2005, 07:50 AM	#193
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I'm so lame - I can't even read this thread because all three episodes are sitting on my Tivo, still unwatched. Maybe this weekend. damned poker, screwing up all my dumb old habits...

10-06-2005, 09:06 AM	#197
G-Man High School JV Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Seattle, Washington	Romans 10:8..... "But what does it say? "The Word is near your mouth and in your heart";that is, the Word of Faith which we proclaim;" This is from the Modern King James Version. I hope that whoever had this idea about the scientific vs the spiritual (what some call "religious") does indeed refer to this verse because then maybe that would lead to verse 10:9 "Because if you confess the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved." Now that's powerful good stuff __________________ Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" Last edited by G-Man : 10-06-2005 at 09:07 AM.

10-06-2005, 09:23 AM	#198
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	Is it just me o have they moved the story forward more in the last three episodes then they did all last season? Also, in every scene with young Locke, I keep waiting for some catastrophic event that paralyzes him.

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