Alright boyz, here we go!!! FM 2006 First Impressions

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by daedalus

Got game. Have wood. Bye life.

Did you get it via download or via a shipped product? In other words, is the download out, yet?

[FrogMan]

iirc, daedalus stayed with his order of FM2006 with cd-wow...

and nope, after twelve F5 in a row over at SI Games , the digidownload isn't out yet...

FM

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

iirc, daedalus stayed with his order of FM2006 with cd-wow...

and nope, after twelve F5 in a row over at SI Games , the digidownload isn't out yet...

FM

Thanks FM for the update

[Pumpy Tudors]

download plz k thx

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

download plz k thx

Pumpy, I don't even feel like telling you to be patient anymore

I want to try it out...

FM

[sovereignstar]

pitchfork plz k thx

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

pitchfork plz k thx

You gonna eat some babies or something?

[sovereignstar]

This thread should be kicking the Civ 4 thread's ass.

I'm bout ready to donate some plasma and use the extra money to buy FM from GoGamer with overnight shipping.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

This thread should be kicking the Civ 4 thread's ass.

I'm bout ready to donate some plasma and use the extra money to buy FM from GoGamer with overnight shipping.

I was just about to pull the trigger on a GoGamer overnight order (I even had it in my shopping cart) when I saw the announcement of the November 1 WWSM release date.

I'm not really a cheap person, although with my lousy temp job and car repair bills coming up, I probably should be. I really think I'd have felt better by spending the extra money and having the game several days ago. I'm that impatient.

The thing that really burns me is GameStop shuffling their release date around. Sega insists that the game is out now, but GameStop isn't releasing until next week. I'm glad that I didn't put in a preorder with them. I trust that the download will be out before next week, and at this rate, Wal-Mart or Target might even have the game on the shelves before then. I don't know much at this point, but I'm hopeful.

Anyway, I understand that it's out of SI's hands at the moment. If Sega was putting the file through tests last night, I would imagine that they should have it ready soon. My only concern is that they won't have it ready until North American evening time, and by then, they won't be able to get in contact with SI until the next morning.

[RPI-Fan]

Are the only keyboard shortcuts the arrow keys & space bar?

Are there more? If so, could someone list the one's they know?

Thxs!
~rpi-fan

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I was just about to pull the trigger on a GoGamer overnight order (I even had it in my shopping cart) when I saw the announcement of the November 1 WWSM release date.

If at 3pm central there isn't any more news, I'm pulling the trigger.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

If at 3pm central there isn't any more news, I'm pulling the trigger.

good, this can only mean that they will announce it about 15 minutes past 3pm central, or at about 4:15pm eastern, sweet

FM

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

good, this can only mean that they will announce it about 15 minutes past 3pm central, or at about 4:15pm eastern, sweet

FM

Probably. There is a little incentive for me to buy a hard copy anyways. I do own a Mac laptop. How much I'll play the game on it I'm not sure.

[rexallllsc]

Harder than ever to make transfers happen (for me). Anyone else running into this?

[Pumpy Tudors]

From Graeme Kelly:

Originally Posted by Graeme Kelly on the SI boards

Hello again,

Another update, another "sorry guys". Here is what is happening right now, and what has been happening all week.

Basically, we are using a different provider that we used with EHM. Currently we're able to bypass the copy protection system when we shouldn't be allowed to. This is what we've been trying to fix all week - we were(I was, since I'm the one implementing it) given the impression that we didn't have to do something when now it turns out that we do have to. We've been fixing some other issues this week, but this is the main reason for the delays. We have implemented a fix for it now and are uploading to Sega US. Then, they will activate it (private/protected link) and we will download an installer for the final test. That is, we check that when you buy it, it knows you've bought it. And we check that when we do our little workaround, it doesn't give you it for free .

More news as we get it, I apologise again for any inconvenience.

Ouch. I don't think this is going to happen today, just because of the time differences.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

From Graeme Kelly:


Ouch. I don't think this is going to happen today, just because of the time differences.

I like that statement better than "It's out of our hands", though, for some reason.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by rexallllsc

Harder than ever to make transfers happen (for me). Anyone else running into this?

I haven't had much problem. Are you having problems transfering players in or out?

I've found it slightly easier to transfer players out and slightly harder to transfer them in (which to me is an improvement over previous versions). I'm playing in the Conference North in England if that might make a difference.

[rexallllsc]

Originally Posted by Bee

I haven't had much problem. Are you having problems transfering players in or out?

I've found it slightly easier to transfer players out and slightly harder to transfer them in (which to me is an improvement over previous versions). I'm playing in the Conference North in England if that might make a difference.

I agree! Easier to transfer players out, way tougher for me to bring players in. Even when I offer about 160% of their value.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by rexallllsc

I agree! Easier to transfer players out, way tougher for me to bring players in. Even when I offer about 160% of their value.

I have had teams not want to transfer a player, but it's usually someone they classify as a first teamer or key player. I actually like this, because I do the same thing. If a player is essential to my team, I will turn down offers even if they are above their listed value. I often now look at how the team views the player before making an offer. I've gotten a few good bargains this way (picking up players out of favor with their current team), but it also means I miss out on some players that I'd like to have because they are too valuable to their current teams.

[rexallllsc]

Originally Posted by Bee

I have had teams not want to transfer a player, but it's usually someone they classify as a first teamer or key player. I actually like this, because I do the same thing. If a player is essential to my team, I will turn down offers even if they are above their listed value. I often now look at how the team views the player before making an offer. I've gotten a few good bargains this way (picking up players out of favor with their current team), but it also means I miss out on some players that I'd like to have because they are too valuable to their current teams.

Yeah. I like it too! It just frustrates me because I really need a DC!

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Bee

I have had teams not want to transfer a player, but it's usually someone they classify as a first teamer or key player. I actually like this, because I do the same thing. If a player is essential to my team, I will turn down offers even if they are above their listed value. I often now look at how the team views the player before making an offer. I've gotten a few good bargains this way (picking up players out of favor with their current team), but it also means I miss out on some players that I'd like to have because they are too valuable to their current teams.

you know what, I like that. I mean, how many times in FM2005 have you had a team issue you a "hands off" warning when you declared your interest in on of their key player, then simply offered a tad more than what he's worth and they allowed to let him go? I know it has happened to me often enough...

FM

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

I like that statement better than "It's out of our hands", though, for some reason.

I do too. I'm a bit annoyed at the time it's taking, but they are trying stuff to make it happen...

FM

[FrogMan]

More updates from the SI forums...
http://community.sigames.com/groupee...3212033861/p/4

Originally Posted by Graeme Kelly on the SI Forums

We're hoping for it to be resolved today.

and

Originally Posted by Miles Jacobson on the SI Forums

The plan at the moment is thus.

Myself, Kelly & Grant will be checking our mail up til midnight UK time. If, by that time, the test version is ready for us to try, and we are able to grab it in a reasonable timeframe (sub 1 hour) then we will do so, and that would make it go live tonight.

If we don't have a mail by that time, then it will be tried out first thing in the morning.

FM

[sovereignstar]

Ordered from GoGamer. Thinking that I want a hard copy anyways (for my iBook).

[sovereignstar]

Dola - The new digital provider kind of threw me for a loop. I was pretty sure they'd use TryMedia again. Wonder who they are using.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I was thinking about ordering from GoGamer, but then I realized that nobody's going to be at my house tomorrow for a while anyway. They'd probably try to deliver it when nobody's there. Then I'd have to wait until MONDAY for re-delivery. I don't THINK so!

Here's hoping they get the download up by at least tomorrow so I can play over the weekend.

[Pumpy Tudors]

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

Nope. Still nothing, with only 75 minutes to go until midnight GMT.

[samifan24]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

Nope. Still nothing, with only 75 minutes to go until midnight GMT.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder, my friend.

[oykib]

You guys all should have stuck with CD-wow. I've had mine since Sunday. All the way out in Japan.

[FrogMan]

time and delay were not as important to me as the $10 I'll be saving on this. I'm cheap, and I'm saving money to replace the 20 year old 19" TV we have in the living room for something a bit bigger $10 is $10 closer to my goal

FM

[oykib]

Of course, having said that, I just got the same delay e-mail about Civ4 as I did for FM2006.

[sovereignstar]

Slightly behind haircut day in joyous nature is the FedEx man knocking at your door.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Slightly behind haircut day in joyous nature is the FedEx man knocking at your door.

I hope you stocked up on kleenexes

Have fun with it!

FM

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

I hope you stocked up on kleenexes

Have fun with it!

FM

Haha, thanks! Feel free to make fun of me for paying double of what you will be when the download becomes available.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Haha, thanks! Feel free to make fun of me for paying double of what you will be when the download becomes available.

nah, it's cool, we'll keep that within the FOFC family

For now, I have a bit more time to advance in my FM2005 career. I really feel weird about this. I'm about to the middle of the 2007/08 season and the World Cup is in is at the end of the 2009/10 so two more seasons to play and dang, I'll want to play WWSM2006, will be weird once it's out, whenever that is...

FM

[Pumpy Tudors]

OK, I am thisclose to ordering from GoGamer with overnight Saturday delivery. That will make the total nearly $72.00 if I do it. That would be absolutely ridiculous of me, and it's unlikely that I'll do it. I'm so tempted, though.

It's now past working hours in the UK, and I wish that they had provided us with some kind of update today. I figure that "no news is no news" right about now, but I wonder if they're still waiting on Sega US to send them a link or if the problems with the file persist.

Ugh. I feel so bad because I sound like I'm unappreciative of their efforts. I'm not. I'm just really disappointed.

[condors]

I won't have much time to play this weekend so i am not that dissapointed but if its still an issue next weekend i will be.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

OK, I am thisclose to ordering from GoGamer with overnight Saturday delivery. That will make the total nearly $72.00 if I do it. That would be absolutely ridiculous of me, and it's unlikely that I'll do it. I'm so tempted, though.

It's now past working hours in the UK, and I wish that they had provided us with some kind of update today. I figure that "no news is no news" right about now, but I wonder if they're still waiting on Sega US to send them a link or if the problems with the file persist.

Ugh. I feel so bad because I sound like I'm unappreciative of their efforts. I'm not. I'm just really disappointed.

yeah, the $72 is quite a hit. Don't you have Civ4 to keep you busy?

I'd also wished we'd heard from somebody from SI today but we got nothing. FWIW, regarding it being past working hours in UK, I don't know where Graeme Kelly works from, but he posted his last update at 9:16pm eastern yesterday night, that's what, about 3am their time?

FM

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I wish Foz would finish up his first season as Im curious as to the MLS draft. Are there anyone halfway decent coming out? Or mostly useless players?

I too, am very interested to see how the MLS season goes. I am really interested in the MLS. But, unfortunately SI appears from a laymans view to be biased to european leagues for obvious reasons.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

yeah, the $72 is quite a hit. Don't you have Civ4 to keep you busy?

Minor detail.

Originally Posted by FrogMan

I'd also wished we'd heard from somebody from SI today but we got nothing. FWIW, regarding it being past working hours in UK, I don't know where Graeme Kelly works from, but he posted his last update at 9:16pm eastern yesterday night, that's what, about 3am their time?

I believe GMT is only five hours ahead of North American Eastern time, which would've made it about 2:16am there. I don't know where their Sega of America contacts are, but Sega's corporate offices are on the west coast. If SI is trying to keep in touch with people in the Pacific time zone, it's no wonder that there are a few issues. That would be an 8-hour difference. I mean, as I post this message, it's 7:45pm in the UK. They're ready to start their weekends. Out on the Pacific coast, it's only 11:45am. They're just getting their day started (laid-back California folks, ya know ).

SI has been pretty committed to getting this thing ready, so it really wouldn't surprise me if they put in one more late night to try to get this resolved. Honestly, I don't think the Sega folks are putting very much effort into this. I'm starting to doubt that they've even shipped out boxed copies yet, even though their website clearly says that the game is in stores now. The Sega folks will probably find some kind of problem and not notify SI of it until 4:30pm Pacific time. That'd be 12:30am in the UK, and that probably kills the weekend hopes for everyone who's waiting on WWSM.

I'm just guessing, of course, but I think that the above outcome would cause the least surprise to me.

[Pumpy Tudors]

dl plz k thx

[Emiliano]

Wow, this is getting crazier than the NCAA 2006 hunting in July...

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Emiliano

Wow, this is getting crazier than the NCAA 2006 hunting in July...

Yeah, it is. I'm not sure which is worse. With NCAA 2006, I knew the date that it was going to be released officially (and that's the date I got it). With WWSM, I know the date that it's released officially, but it was a couple of days ago, and nobody seems to have it yet!

[MikeVick7]

So, to be straight on this...WWSM may be made available for download soon. Possibly today, although not likely.

But a download will not be made available to the already released FM2006, correct?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by MikeVick7

So, to be straight on this...WWSM may be made available for download soon. Possibly today, although not likely.

But a download will not be made available to the already released FM2006, correct?

Sounds right to me.

Also, the following was just posted on the SI boards:

Originally Posted by Graeme Kelly

We are awaiting news...I will be here until 2am.

That's 9pm EST, so we've still got well over 4 hours during which this release could happen. I'll be jamming the F5 button as usual.

[sovereignstar]

WWSM and FM are the same game. Just a different name for marketing.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

WWSM and FM are the same game. Just a different name for marketing.

Careful there. While this is generally true, FM patches will not work on WWSM and vice-versa. Yes, they're the same game, but there must be some differences in the executables. I'm sure you already knew that, but for those who don't, it's an important point. WWSM patches generally lag a day or two behind FM patches, if I remember correctly. It's generally not a big deal, but it's something to be aware of.

[MikeVick7]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Sounds right to me.

Also, the following was just posted on the SI boards:

That's 9pm EST, so we've still got well over 4 hours during which this release could happen. I'll be jamming the F5 button as usual.

Very nice! Something to keep me busy on a Friday night where I have nothing going on.

What's refresh on Firefox? It's not F5 is it?

[MikeVick7]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

WWSM and FM are the same game. Just a different name for marketing.

Right, I was just making sure that FM2006 wasn't available via download yet.

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Careful there. While this is generally true, FM patches will not work on WWSM and vice-versa. Yes, they're the same game, but there must be some differences in the executables. I'm sure you already knew that, but for those who don't, it's an important point. WWSM patches generally lag a day or two behind FM patches, if I remember correctly. It's generally not a big deal, but it's something to be aware of.

Good point. Just didn't want people to think that there were any differences in the gameplay between the two.