Its' Here! NHL 2007-2008 Regular Season Thread - Page 5

Pumpy Tudors · 10-19-2007, 12:29 PM

NOBODY APPRECIATES MIKE RUPP

MikeVic · 10-19-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

NOBODY APPRECIATES MIKE RUPP

Who? Did you mean Uwe Krupp?

Dr. Sak · 10-19-2007, 12:43 PM

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!!

Honolulu_Blue · 10-19-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

You're joking, right? The best player for a Stanley Cup favorite year in and year out is not somebody I'd consider "under the radar" by any means.

I think this is a pretty fair point. I don't think it's whining about not getting respect at all. (see, e.g., Pat's fans). I think Zetterberg is a bit under the radar for a guy who really could be one of the top five players in the league.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-19-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Who? Did you mean Uwe Krupp?

NO, I MEAN ANOTHER GUY WHO HAS A STANLEY CUP-CLINCHING GOAL

MikeVic · 10-19-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

NO, I MEAN ANOTHER GUY WHO HAS A STANLEY CUP-CLINCHING GOAL

I thought Clint Malarchuk was a goalie?

Pumpy Tudors · 10-19-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

I thought Clint Malarchuk was a goalie?

IS THIS THING ON???

MikeVic · 10-19-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

IS THIS THING ON???

Ok, all I saw that time was something about Boris Mironov.

sterlingice · 10-19-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

IS THIS THING ON???

SI

DeToxRox · 10-19-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I think this is a pretty fair point. I don't think it's whining about not getting respect at all. (see, e.g., Pat's fans). I think Zetterberg is a bit under the radar for a guy who really could be one of the top five players in the league.

Ditto. That is what I was trying to say.

Wolfpack · 10-19-2007, 09:30 PM

Blah. Canes squander the 3-1 lead and lose in a shootout. The Pens shooters made Ward look absolutely goofy in the shootout, pretty well negating all his heroics in the third when the Pens were outplaying Carolina. 3-1-1 now for the trip with tomorrow's game in Philly left.

Draft Dodger · 10-19-2007, 10:18 PM

fucking Jose Theodore.

Avs start out tonight the same way they did against the Flames. Badly. Blackhawks take an early 3-0 lead (one goal, from Jonathan Toews, was an absolute beauty). Avs eek out a comeback, tie it up in the 3rd. Kill of a couple dumb penalties, are on their way to OT...and Theodore lets in a soft one with just over a minute left.

He shouldn't have been in the game. Joel Quenneville continues to swap goalies faster than Charlie Sheen changes hookers. Fucking fuck fuck.

BishopMVP · 10-20-2007, 10:18 AM

I'd wager any player under 30 other than Crosby and maybe Ovechkin could be classified as under the radar in the US.

Random question that occurred to me last night while watching one of the UMass-Lowell players consistently creep within 3 feet of the faceoff circle and be waved out - has anyone ever seen a penalty called on a player for that? I know the ref can throw the guy taking the faceoff out, but can he/would he ever do anything to the wings?

Simms · 10-20-2007, 09:04 PM

So I missed the game tonight as we had some shopping to do, and then the family went out for dinner. Awaiting the check, I checked my cell phone to see that the Leafs led 3-1 after two periods. I let out a "w00t" and my wife apologized for keeping us out and missing the game.

"Eh ... no worries. It'll probably be 5-3 Chicago by the time we get home anyway." We both laughed.

Not really laughing anymore.

DeToxRox · 10-20-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Simms

So I missed the game tonight as we had some shopping to do, and then the family went out for dinner. Awaiting the check, I checked my cell phone to see that the Leafs led 3-1 after two periods. I let out a "w00t" and my wife apologized for keeping us out and missing the game.

"Eh ... no worries. It'll probably be 5-3 Chicago by the time we get home anyway." We both laughed.

Not really laughing anymore.

Has anyone looked consistently good for the Leafs this season so far?

Maple Leafs · 10-20-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Has anyone looked consistently good for the Leafs this season so far?

Antropov has been great. Sundin has been good every game except the Sabres debacle. Steen has been solid but not outstanding.

That is all.

DeToxRox · 10-20-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Antropov has been great. Sundin has been good every game except the Sabres debacle. Steen has been solid but not outstanding.

That is all.

Any chance of Pogge playing this year?

Maple Leafs · 10-20-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Any chance of Pogge playing this year?

Very doubtful.

Pogge is at least a year away by all accounts, and to be honest he's starting to lose his blue chip lustre. He'll still play in the NHL but he may not be the sure-thing stud he was made out to be. In any case, I think the only way he shows up this year is either due to injury problems or if the team goes into firesale mode. After all, it's bad enough to throw two veterans like Raycroft and Toskala out there behind that defence, why would you want to do it to a kid?

DeToxRox · 10-20-2007, 10:44 PM

Zetterberg with a helper on Maltby's 2nd goal tonight to keep Z's point streak alive.

Pyser · 10-20-2007, 11:10 PM

4 more goals allowed tonight by new jersey.

its a freakin epidemic

Tekneek · 10-21-2007, 05:34 AM

The Thrashers' players are apparently no longer afraid that Don Waddell is going to run them out of town. Maybe they have quit on Don as well. If the ownership has any sense, they will make Don coach the team for about ten games and fire him if he isn't at least above .500. Don't let him hire a new coach w/o making sure the problem isn't the GM or you are just delaying the inevitable.

Maple Leafs · 10-21-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

4 more goals allowed tonight by new jersey.

Or as they call it in Toronto, a shutout.

Chief Rum · 10-21-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Has anyone looked consistently good for the Leafs this season so far?

Teams playing against them?

Maple Leafs · 10-23-2007, 07:32 PM

I swear, if the Leafs lose at home to the Thrashers I'm going to go slingblade on this place.

johnnyshaka · 10-23-2007, 09:05 PM

Oiler fans showed some class with a great ovation for Smyth on his first trip back to Edmonton.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-23-2007, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I swear, if the Leafs lose at home to the Thrashers I'm going to go slingblade on this place.

I reckon it's time to get Maple Leafs to the nervous hospital. Mmm...

DeToxRox · 10-23-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I swear, if the Leafs lose at home to the Thrashers I'm going to go slingblade on this place.

Just think about John Tavares.

Maple Leafs · 10-23-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Just think about John Tavares.

Except we know the NHL is going to wait to see who finishes last before they decide if he's eligible. And since the Bettam regime always loves to screw Toronto, we have no hope of getting him.

Maple Leafs · 10-23-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I reckon it's time to get Maple Leafs to the nervous hospital. Mmm...

Luckily this is the Bettman NHL, where one team can win but the other one doesn't lose.

Still, a tie at home against the worst team in the league isn't much to get excited about. In fact, if I hear one Leaf player or coach talking about moral victories I might start cutting myself.

bbor · 10-23-2007, 11:46 PM

What a brutal display of hockey displayed by ATL and TO.

Ugly,ugly,ugly.

sterlingice · 10-24-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Luckily this is the Bettman NHL, where one team can win but the other one doesn't lose.

Still, a tie at home against the worst team in the league isn't much to get excited about. In fact, if I hear one Leaf player or coach talking about moral victories I might start cutting myself.

Does this mean it's time to only let you use safety scissors and circles of paper?

SI

Maple Leafs · 10-24-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Does this mean it's time to only let you use safety scissors and circles of paper?

Mrs. Leafs has already taken away my shoelaces.

DeToxRox · 10-24-2007, 09:29 PM

Zetterberg with another helper to continue his streak of a point in every game this year.

Wolfpack · 10-24-2007, 10:25 PM

Canes paddled the Sabres in the third period to win going away, 6-2. Carolina's gotten a point in all but one game this year and are now seven points ahead in the Southeast (granted, they've also played the most games so far) and one behind Ottawa (tied with a couple of others) for best in NHL. Three-game homestand finishes Friday against Montreal.

Simms · 10-25-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Just think about John Tavares.

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Except we know the NHL is going to wait to see who finishes last before they decide if he's eligible. And since the Bettam regime always loves to screw Toronto, we have no hope of getting him.

Hmmm....

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/NHL/article/270412

Suburban Rhythm · 10-25-2007, 12:22 PM

Beaten to the Tavares story by 10 mins...

No risk/huge reward move

Dr. Sak · 10-25-2007, 12:26 PM

Next article will have the Leafs petitioning the NHL to allow them to build a wall of bricks in front of their net.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-25-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Next article will have the Leafs petitioning the NHL to allow them to build a wall of bricks in front of their net.

And, it being Toronto, they'll probably approve the request.

Maple Leafs · 10-25-2007, 12:52 PM

I could have sworn I read the same article about Crosby.

Sign a guy to a pro contract before he's been drafted... what is this, EHM?

Simms · 10-25-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

And, it being Toronto, they'll probably approve the request.

And they'd still find a way to give up 3 goals a game.

MikeVic · 10-25-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Simms

And they'd still find a way to give up 3 goals a game.

Maple Leafs · 10-25-2007, 04:49 PM

The Tavaras story has already been shot down:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2007/...tavares_leafs/

Maple Leafs · 10-25-2007, 09:17 PM

Jiri Tlusty will save us all.

Johnny93g · 10-26-2007, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Jiri Tlusty will save us all.

Amen!!!

How did Stralman look tonight? I wasnt home to watch the game. Did Kronwall play too? If so, how was he?

Pumpy Tudors · 10-26-2007, 07:43 AM

I was bowling last night during the Leafs-Penguins game, and my wife went up to the approach to bowl a frame. The score of the hockey game was tied at 1. She rolled her first ball, and when she turned around to walk back to the approach, I said, "Toronto scored." She picked up her ball off the ball return, rolled for her spare, and just as she was about to sit down, I said, "Toronto scored again." She happened to have a Malkin jersey with her at the time, which she then threatened to throw into the trash in disgust.

Also, the Devils got shut out by the Rangers, so with the exception of the one game I bowled 27 pins over average, last night sucked.

Fidatelo · 10-26-2007, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

with the exception of the one game I bowled 27 pins over average, last night sucked.

Dude you went bowling, what the hell did you expect?

Honolulu_Blue · 10-26-2007, 08:23 AM

Not much new on the Wings' front. The team continues to roll pretty as it has the 15 years or so (outside of being unable to beat Robert Lang and the Blackhawks). At the moment they continue to be a one line team with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Holmstrom providing the bulk of the offense. Those three have 16 goals and the rest of the forwards on the team have 12. Guys like Hulder and Filppula will eventually have to start producing, but with around $5 million under the cap expect the Wings to be active at the trade deadline once again as they wil be looking for some additional scoring.

Rafalski has fit in very nicely. He's 4th on the team in points with 2 goals and 8 assists in 10 games.

Hasek is "day-to-day" with a sore hip. That's never a good thing, but Osgood has been playing very well (better than Hasek actually), so they will survive.

The Wings re-called Igor Grigorenko from Grand Rapids. He is their top forward prospect and is in an interesting situation. He was a highly touted prospect a few years ago and then got into a bad car accident that derailed his career a bit. He seems to be back on track and finally came over from Russia this summer. He arrived at training camp completely out of shape. He was unimpressive in pre-season and has been equally un-impressive while playing in Grand Rapids. Besides being out of shape, he doesn't really seem to care that much. He has a lot of talent and some decent size and given the beforementioned lack of scoring outside of the top line, I think the Wings would love for him to develop.

The trick is that, he has the option to return to Russia by November 1. He has a contract with his old club that will pay him about $1 million a year. Odds are, if he's in Grand Rapids (making $70,000), he will likely bolt for Russia and that will, in all likelihood, end his career with the Wings.

If the Wings decide to keep him on the NHL roster, however, they will have to send either Matt Ellis or Aaron Downey down to Grand Rapids. Ellis is an incredibly hard-working forward who has a nice little 4 game point streak going (2 goals, 2 assists). He has been the captain of the Griffons for the last few years and by all accounts was the heart and soul of that team. It'd be really hard to send a guy like that down and keep a guy like Grigorenko. Downey has also worked hard and been a good team player. He adds an element of toughness the Wings' have lacked for a long time, not counting, of course, the six game Brad Norton Era.

It will be interesting to see what the Wings will do in the next week with this situations. Based on comments by the Wings' brass, if Grigorenko doesn't turn things around very soon, I would not be surprised to see him back in Grand Rapids and, therefore, taking the trip back home to Russia. It would be great if he stuck it out, but I find that unlikely.

The Wings re-signed Kris Draper to a 3 year deal that averages out to about $1.65 million a season. That's less than he's making now, but I think it's about right. Draper is an invaluable asset to the team. A great penalty killer, great on face-offs, and all-around good guy. He's easily one of the most personable athletes in Detroit. I never thought he'd test the free agent waters, but it's good to have him back in the fold.

Rumors continue to swirl about someone from the front office leaving to join Toronto. Over the summer it was all about Scotty Bowman. Over the last week or two, they have pretty everyone else possibly joining the Leafs, including Jim Nill, Steve Yzerman, and even Ken Holland.

Maple Leafs · 10-26-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

How did Stralman look tonight? I wasnt home to watch the game. Did Kronwall play too? If so, how was he?

I only saw the third period. I don't think Kronwall played. I didn't really notice Stralman, so I guess that's good.

Funny how we play our best game of the year without McCabe and Tucker.

Suburban Rhythm · 10-26-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I only saw the third period. I don't think Kronwall played. I didn't really notice Stralman, so I guess that's good.

Funny how we play our best game of the year without McCabe and Tucker.

That was key...McCabe was responsible for the Pens being on the PP I think like 6 times last weekend. Not that they could have scored on the PP last night...

bbor · 10-26-2007, 02:10 PM

Tlusty is an idiot.Scoring 2 goals in his first game.Leaf fans are going to ruin him now.They already expect him to be a 50 goal scorer now.Toronto radio did a call in for peoples favorite Toronto athlete of all time.....guess who got the first vote.I hate Leaf fans.

10-19-2007, 12:29 PM	#201
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	NOBODY APPRECIATES MIKE RUPP __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-19-2007, 10:18 PM	#212
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	fucking Jose Theodore. Avs start out tonight the same way they did against the Flames. Badly. Blackhawks take an early 3-0 lead (one goal, from Jonathan Toews, was an absolute beauty). Avs eek out a comeback, tie it up in the 3rd. Kill of a couple dumb penalties, are on their way to OT...and Theodore lets in a soft one with just over a minute left. He shouldn't have been in the game. Joel Quenneville continues to swap goalies faster than Charlie Sheen changes hookers. Fucking fuck fuck. __________________ Mile High Hockey

10-20-2007, 09:04 PM	#214
Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	So I missed the game tonight as we had some shopping to do, and then the family went out for dinner. Awaiting the check, I checked my cell phone to see that the Leafs led 3-1 after two periods. I let out a "w00t" and my wife apologized for keeping us out and missing the game. "Eh ... no worries. It'll probably be 5-3 Chicago by the time we get home anyway." We both laughed. Not really laughing anymore. __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design

10-21-2007, 05:34 AM	#221
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	The Thrashers' players are apparently no longer afraid that Don Waddell is going to run them out of town. Maybe they have quit on Don as well. If the ownership has any sense, they will make Don coach the team for about ten games and fire him if he isn't at least above .500. Don't let him hire a new coach w/o making sure the problem isn't the GM or you are just delaying the inevitable. Last edited by Tekneek : 10-21-2007 at 05:35 AM.

10-23-2007, 07:32 PM	#224
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I swear, if the Leafs lose at home to the Thrashers I'm going to go slingblade on this place. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

10-19-2007, 12:43 PM	#203
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!!

10-19-2007, 09:30 PM	#211
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Blah. Canes squander the 3-1 lead and lose in a shootout. The Pens shooters made Ward look absolutely goofy in the shootout, pretty well negating all his heroics in the third when the Pens were outplaying Carolina. 3-1-1 now for the trip with tomorrow's game in Philly left.

10-20-2007, 10:18 AM	#213
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	I'd wager any player under 30 other than Crosby and maybe Ovechkin could be classified as under the radar in the US. Random question that occurred to me last night while watching one of the UMass-Lowell players consistently creep within 3 feet of the faceoff circle and be waved out - has anyone ever seen a penalty called on a player for that? I know the ref can throw the guy taking the faceoff out, but can he/would he ever do anything to the wings?

10-20-2007, 10:44 PM	#219
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Zetterberg with a helper on Maltby's 2nd goal tonight to keep Z's point streak alive.

10-20-2007, 11:10 PM	#220
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	4 more goals allowed tonight by new jersey. its a freakin epidemic

10-23-2007, 09:05 PM	#225
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	Oiler fans showed some class with a great ovation for Smyth on his first trip back to Edmonton.

10-23-2007, 11:46 PM	#230
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	What a brutal display of hockey displayed by ATL and TO. Ugly,ugly,ugly. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

10-24-2007, 09:29 PM	#233
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Zetterberg with another helper to continue his streak of a point in every game this year.

10-24-2007, 10:25 PM	#234
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Canes paddled the Sabres in the third period to win going away, 6-2. Carolina's gotten a point in all but one game this year and are now seven points ahead in the Southeast (granted, they've also played the most games so far) and one behind Ottawa (tied with a couple of others) for best in NHL. Three-game homestand finishes Friday against Montreal.

10-25-2007, 12:22 PM	#236
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Beaten to the Tavares story by 10 mins... No risk/huge reward move __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

10-25-2007, 12:26 PM	#237
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Next article will have the Leafs petitioning the NHL to allow them to build a wall of bricks in front of their net. Last edited by Dr. Sak : 10-25-2007 at 12:27 PM.

10-25-2007, 12:52 PM	#239
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I could have sworn I read the same article about Crosby. Sign a guy to a pro contract before he's been drafted... what is this, EHM? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

10-25-2007, 04:49 PM	#242
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	The Tavaras story has already been shot down: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2007/...tavares_leafs/ __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

10-25-2007, 09:17 PM	#243
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Jiri Tlusty will save us all. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

10-26-2007, 07:43 AM	#245
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I was bowling last night during the Leafs-Penguins game, and my wife went up to the approach to bowl a frame. The score of the hockey game was tied at 1. She rolled her first ball, and when she turned around to walk back to the approach, I said, "Toronto scored." She picked up her ball off the ball return, rolled for her spare, and just as she was about to sit down, I said, "Toronto scored again." She happened to have a Malkin jersey with her at the time, which she then threatened to throw into the trash in disgust. Also, the Devils got shut out by the Rangers, so with the exception of the one game I bowled 27 pins over average, last night sucked. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-26-2007, 08:23 AM	#247
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Not much new on the Wings' front. The team continues to roll pretty as it has the 15 years or so (outside of being unable to beat Robert Lang and the Blackhawks). At the moment they continue to be a one line team with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Holmstrom providing the bulk of the offense. Those three have 16 goals and the rest of the forwards on the team have 12. Guys like Hulder and Filppula will eventually have to start producing, but with around $5 million under the cap expect the Wings to be active at the trade deadline once again as they wil be looking for some additional scoring. Rafalski has fit in very nicely. He's 4th on the team in points with 2 goals and 8 assists in 10 games. Hasek is "day-to-day" with a sore hip. That's never a good thing, but Osgood has been playing very well (better than Hasek actually), so they will survive. The Wings re-called Igor Grigorenko from Grand Rapids. He is their top forward prospect and is in an interesting situation. He was a highly touted prospect a few years ago and then got into a bad car accident that derailed his career a bit. He seems to be back on track and finally came over from Russia this summer. He arrived at training camp completely out of shape. He was unimpressive in pre-season and has been equally un-impressive while playing in Grand Rapids. Besides being out of shape, he doesn't really seem to care that much. He has a lot of talent and some decent size and given the beforementioned lack of scoring outside of the top line, I think the Wings would love for him to develop. The trick is that, he has the option to return to Russia by November 1. He has a contract with his old club that will pay him about $1 million a year. Odds are, if he's in Grand Rapids (making $70,000), he will likely bolt for Russia and that will, in all likelihood, end his career with the Wings. If the Wings decide to keep him on the NHL roster, however, they will have to send either Matt Ellis or Aaron Downey down to Grand Rapids. Ellis is an incredibly hard-working forward who has a nice little 4 game point streak going (2 goals, 2 assists). He has been the captain of the Griffons for the last few years and by all accounts was the heart and soul of that team. It'd be really hard to send a guy like that down and keep a guy like Grigorenko. Downey has also worked hard and been a good team player. He adds an element of toughness the Wings' have lacked for a long time, not counting, of course, the six game Brad Norton Era. It will be interesting to see what the Wings will do in the next week with this situations. Based on comments by the Wings' brass, if Grigorenko doesn't turn things around very soon, I would not be surprised to see him back in Grand Rapids and, therefore, taking the trip back home to Russia. It would be great if he stuck it out, but I find that unlikely. The Wings re-signed Kris Draper to a 3 year deal that averages out to about $1.65 million a season. That's less than he's making now, but I think it's about right. Draper is an invaluable asset to the team. A great penalty killer, great on face-offs, and all-around good guy. He's easily one of the most personable athletes in Detroit. I never thought he'd test the free agent waters, but it's good to have him back in the fold. Rumors continue to swirl about someone from the front office leaving to join Toronto. Over the summer it was all about Scotty Bowman. Over the last week or two, they have pretty everyone else possibly joining the Leafs, including Jim Nill, Steve Yzerman, and even Ken Holland. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-26-2007, 02:10 PM	#250
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Tlusty is an idiot.Scoring 2 goals in his first game.Leaf fans are going to ruin him now.They already expect him to be a 50 goal scorer now.Toronto radio did a call in for peoples favorite Toronto athlete of all time.....guess who got the first vote.I hate Leaf fans. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

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