2007-08 NBA Playoffs thread - Page 10

molson · 05-16-2008, 09:43 PM

I wonder if Lebron has ever been called for a blocking foul.

DaddyTorgo · 05-16-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I wonder if Lebron has ever been called for a blocking foul.

nope. that was fucking bullshit. Fucking homer call.

Noop · 05-16-2008, 09:49 PM

Unless we have a Reggie Miller'est performance in the last 14.4 seconds looks like Boston will be 0 for 6 on the road for the playoffs.

Noop · 05-16-2008, 09:50 PM

Maybe you guys aren't the most objectionably in this matter...maybe.

DaddyTorgo · 05-16-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Maybe you guys aren't the most objectionably in this matter...maybe.

he was moving sideways and wasn't planted. Even the espn announcers said that

molson · 05-16-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Maybe you guys aren't the most objectionably in this matter...maybe.

No, but do you think that was a charge? Or that Allen was goaltended? Or that Smith traveled?

Noop · 05-16-2008, 09:51 PM

I most have missed that.

molson · 05-16-2008, 09:53 PM

Don't get me wrong, the C's still sucked down the stretch once again. But that's a tough trio of calls in the last 90 seconds.

Noop · 05-16-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

No, but do you think that was a charge? Or that Allen was goaltended? Or that Smith traveled?

Charge didn't see. Goaltend according to the rules I guess. Travel? I have only seen that called against the Celtics.

stevew · 05-16-2008, 10:04 PM

The charge could have gone either way, but Pierce is such a pussy boy drama queen, so fuck him. He instigated that contact when his shoulders weren't square to the defender. He was playing out of control. I've seen that one called a ton on the offensive player, including several times against LeBron in these playoffs.

Yeah, that was probably goaltending, although it hit the side of the glass and I'm not sure that means the same as if it hits the front of the glass. It very well may. I think West got that one on the way up or at its peak.

Probably a travel.

stevew · 05-16-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

he was moving sideways and wasn't planted. Even the espn announcers said that

That's not the whole criteria to determine whether or not something is an offensive foul. It may be bad judgement on the refs part, but it has been called pretty liberally for awhile now. Good defensive positioning will sometimes draw an offensive foul even if your feet aren't set. And pierce lunged there, which can also lead to an offensive foul.

wade moore · 05-16-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

That's not the whole criteria to determine whether or not something is an offensive foul. It may be bad judgement on the refs part, but it has been called pretty liberally for awhile now. Good defensive positioning will sometimes draw an offensive foul even if your feet aren't set. And pierce lunged there, which can also lead to an offensive foul.

Yeah, I thought Pierce lowering his shoulder was the key.

MrBug708 · 05-16-2008, 10:47 PM

Lakers playing well

Chief Rum · 05-16-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

No, but do you think that was a charge? Or that Allen was goaltended? Or that Smith traveled?

A charge? No. An offensive foul? Possibly--he drove in with his shoulder down.

Goaltended? Technically, yes, but only by the letter of the law. That ball wasn't going to end up anywhere near the hoop. But, called straight, yes, that should have been two points.

I missed the Smith play, but I only caught the last few minutes, and that was without sound.

I think the C's are going to win going away on Sunday.

MrBug708 · 05-17-2008, 12:11 AM

C'mon Lakers...Hold On...

MrBug708 · 05-17-2008, 12:11 AM

Good Lord

Neon_Chaos · 05-17-2008, 12:19 AM

WHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Western Conference Finals!

MrBug708 · 05-17-2008, 12:20 AM

Holy Crap that was nerveracking

rjolley · 05-17-2008, 12:48 AM

I thought the Pierce/Lebron call was poor. Looked like Lebron reached in to go for the steal and initiated the contact. Didn't appear Pierce was out of control, more like he was doing what perimeter players, including Lebron, usually do, put their head down and try to get to the rim. Thought Lebron got the advantage with the reach and the foul should've been defensive.

The travel by Garnett in the paint was valid. Not sure which one you're talking about on Smith...unless the one on Garnett was actually on Smith.

The non-call on the goaltend was the right call. I don't think the side of the backboard counts as the backboard in the context of a goaltend.

Thought the C's were going to pull it off. Pierce and Allen struggled to make shots. Back to Boston. Should be a good game on Sunday.

Mantle2600 · 05-17-2008, 02:38 AM

Pierce hit LBJ alot harder on that call than Bron was hitting Pierce on his charges, so cry me a river. Even if it's not called it does'nt mean the Celtics would have won the game. If their so better then it's time to put up or shut up.

MrBug708 · 05-17-2008, 02:40 AM

As a Lakers fan, I'm not sure who I want in the next round. Spurs are aging but are battle tested and the Lakers have some unfinished business with them. The Hornets are young and dangerous but this is very unfamiliar ground for them

Neon_Chaos · 05-17-2008, 02:45 AM

Bring on the Hornets. I'd rather see either the Lakers or NO to advance to the finals than the Spurs again.

Neon_Chaos · 05-17-2008, 02:45 AM

Bug, as a fellow Kobeliever, did you even imagine that the Lakers would be where they are at this point in the season?

MrBug708 · 05-17-2008, 02:52 AM

Preseason? No. What Kobe has done (and Jerry West this year for us

) has been nothing short of amazing. Kobe's numbers were very similiar to some of Jordan's numbers when they were winning championships instead of playing for themselves.

miami_fan · 05-17-2008, 10:10 AM

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Holy Crap that was nerveracking

They did not get the memo that they were suppose to quit when they were down by 16 going into the 4th.

MrBug708 · 05-17-2008, 10:13 AM

I think they missed the memo where they were not suppose to make 5 of 7 from the three with under 2 minutes to play

stevew · 05-17-2008, 10:58 AM

Jazz got 2 good looks at the end, I guess that's all the more you can hope for.

The Ray Allen shot could not have been goaltending since there was no chance of it going in. That's according to the rules.

The Cavs should have closed this one out already, they blew 2 games in Boston thus far. Hopefully they get their shit together, and play all 48 minutes on sunday.

Noop · 05-17-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

The Cavs should have closed this one out already, they blew 2 games in Boston thus far. Hopefully they get their shit together, and play all 48 minutes on sunday.

Careful now... some people might think your talking out your bottom.

stevew · 05-17-2008, 01:06 PM

I think they blew 1 and 5, granted it's to be expected with our dumbass coach and questionable rotation.

Noop · 05-18-2008, 02:48 PM

Well looks like the Celtics came to play.

Noop · 05-18-2008, 02:55 PM

Perkins for the Celtics might need to tone it down a bit. He seems like he is more interested in fighting then he is in playing basketball.

Pumpy Tudors · 05-18-2008, 03:14 PM

I wish they had decided to play the basketball game later tonight. I like hockey more than I like basketball, so I'm watching that instead. I'd love to watch a game 7, though, and I'm missing it.

If game 5 is any indication, however, the final couple of minutes in Boston will take several hours, so I should have plenty of time to see the end of it once hockey's over.

Seriously, I do hope that I get to see the end of game 7, and I hope it's an entertaining game by that point.

SirFozzie · 05-18-2008, 04:37 PM

James and Pierce are going at it like 'Nique and Bird in game 7 so far.

The only question is can the Cavs have someone, anyone pick things up?

Noop · 05-18-2008, 04:56 PM

The Celtics have been in control this whole game and to be honest I would be surprised if they lost this game with 9:37 left to go in the 4th quarter.

molson · 05-18-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

James and Pierce are going at it like 'Nique and Bird in game 7 so far.

Lebron's missing WAY more shots than 'Nique did that game.

SirFozzie · 05-18-2008, 05:06 PM

Wow. Refs COMPLETELY missed it there. That was awful

Radii · 05-18-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

The Celtics have been in control this whole game and to be honest I would be surprised if they lost this game with 9:37 left to go in the 4th quarter.

even after Lebron hit those two three pointers I still have this same feeling.

SirFozzie · 05-18-2008, 05:15 PM

I get the same feeling Nique gave me way back when every time James has the ball.

molson · 05-18-2008, 05:19 PM

When did the Flagrant Foul rule rule change? I don't remember announcers constantly yelling about it until recently.

molson · 05-18-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

even after Lebron hit those two three pointers I still have this same feeling.

Unfortunately, I'm getting the feeling the Celtics players feel that way too.

SirFozzie · 05-18-2008, 05:23 PM

If you told me P.J. Brown was going to take a key shot with just over a minute to play, I would tell you I want Doc Rivers fired... or beheaded. (ok, kidding about the beheading)

Radii · 05-18-2008, 05:24 PM

If the Cavs leave him in the game, I would be fouling Ben Wallace at every opportunity now.

SirFozzie · 05-18-2008, 05:30 PM

And now I see the difference between James and 'Nique (Not much, but a difference)

Noop · 05-18-2008, 05:31 PM

If LeBron and his teammates weren't complaining for the foul they might have been able to foul someone other then Ray Allen who is money at the line.

molson · 05-18-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I think they blew 1 and 5, granted it's to be expected with our dumbass coach and questionable rotation.

The Celtics blew games 4 and 6. But it looks the Cavs will blow more games in the end.

Noop · 05-18-2008, 05:31 PM

LeBron James is a way better player then Wilkins ever was or could be...

MrBug708 · 05-18-2008, 05:33 PM

Great decision by Lebron

molson · 05-18-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

LeBron James is a way better player then Wilkins ever was or could be...

Very true, but I think there's been a little too much praise for him in a series where he's shooting 32%.

HE blew this series for Cleveland with his shitty shooting, and that's not the media line for whatever reason.

Noop · 05-18-2008, 05:36 PM

The Celtics are a team of fortune.

larrymcg421 · 05-18-2008, 05:37 PM

Same decision he got criticized for last year against Detroit. The only difference is his guy made the shot this time.

05-16-2008, 09:43 PM	#451
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I wonder if Lebron has ever been called for a blocking foul. Last edited by molson : 05-16-2008 at 09:44 PM.

05-16-2008, 09:49 PM	#453
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Unless we have a Reggie Miller'est performance in the last 14.4 seconds looks like Boston will be 0 for 6 on the road for the playoffs. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

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05-17-2008, 12:19 AM	#467
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05-16-2008, 09:53 PM	#458
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Don't get me wrong, the C's still sucked down the stretch once again. But that's a tough trio of calls in the last 90 seconds.

05-16-2008, 10:04 PM	#460
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The charge could have gone either way, but Pierce is such a pussy boy drama queen, so fuck him. He instigated that contact when his shoulders weren't square to the defender. He was playing out of control. I've seen that one called a ton on the offensive player, including several times against LeBron in these playoffs. Yeah, that was probably goaltending, although it hit the side of the glass and I'm not sure that means the same as if it hits the front of the glass. It very well may. I think West got that one on the way up or at its peak. Probably a travel.

05-16-2008, 10:47 PM	#463
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Lakers playing well

05-17-2008, 12:11 AM	#465
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	C'mon Lakers...Hold On...

05-17-2008, 12:11 AM	#466
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Good Lord

05-17-2008, 12:20 AM	#468
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Holy Crap that was nerveracking

05-17-2008, 12:48 AM	#469
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	I thought the Pierce/Lebron call was poor. Looked like Lebron reached in to go for the steal and initiated the contact. Didn't appear Pierce was out of control, more like he was doing what perimeter players, including Lebron, usually do, put their head down and try to get to the rim. Thought Lebron got the advantage with the reach and the foul should've been defensive. The travel by Garnett in the paint was valid. Not sure which one you're talking about on Smith...unless the one on Garnett was actually on Smith. The non-call on the goaltend was the right call. I don't think the side of the backboard counts as the backboard in the context of a goaltend. Thought the C's were going to pull it off. Pierce and Allen struggled to make shots. Back to Boston. Should be a good game on Sunday.

05-17-2008, 02:38 AM	#470
Mantle2600 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Dawg Pound	Pierce hit LBJ alot harder on that call than Bron was hitting Pierce on his charges, so cry me a river. Even if it's not called it does'nt mean the Celtics would have won the game. If their so better then it's time to put up or shut up. __________________ Member of the Underground Browns. Cavs. Tribe. Buckeyes. Period. Last edited by Mantle2600 : 05-17-2008 at 02:38 AM.

05-17-2008, 02:40 AM	#471
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	As a Lakers fan, I'm not sure who I want in the next round. Spurs are aging but are battle tested and the Lakers have some unfinished business with them. The Hornets are young and dangerous but this is very unfamiliar ground for them

05-17-2008, 02:45 AM	#472
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Bring on the Hornets. I'd rather see either the Lakers or NO to advance to the finals than the Spurs again. __________________ Come and see.

05-17-2008, 02:45 AM	#473
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Bug, as a fellow Kobeliever, did you even imagine that the Lakers would be where they are at this point in the season? __________________ Come and see.

05-17-2008, 02:52 AM	#474
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Preseason? No. What Kobe has done (and Jerry West this year for us ) has been nothing short of amazing. Kobe's numbers were very similiar to some of Jordan's numbers when they were winning championships instead of playing for themselves.

05-17-2008, 10:13 AM	#476
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I think they missed the memo where they were not suppose to make 5 of 7 from the three with under 2 minutes to play

05-17-2008, 10:58 AM	#477
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Jazz got 2 good looks at the end, I guess that's all the more you can hope for. The Ray Allen shot could not have been goaltending since there was no chance of it going in. That's according to the rules. The Cavs should have closed this one out already, they blew 2 games in Boston thus far. Hopefully they get their shit together, and play all 48 minutes on sunday. Last edited by stevew : 05-17-2008 at 11:02 AM.

05-17-2008, 01:06 PM	#479
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I think they blew 1 and 5, granted it's to be expected with our dumbass coach and questionable rotation.

05-18-2008, 02:48 PM	#480
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Well looks like the Celtics came to play. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-18-2008, 02:55 PM	#481
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Perkins for the Celtics might need to tone it down a bit. He seems like he is more interested in fighting then he is in playing basketball. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-18-2008, 03:14 PM	#482
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I wish they had decided to play the basketball game later tonight. I like hockey more than I like basketball, so I'm watching that instead. I'd love to watch a game 7, though, and I'm missing it. If game 5 is any indication, however, the final couple of minutes in Boston will take several hours, so I should have plenty of time to see the end of it once hockey's over. Seriously, I do hope that I get to see the end of game 7, and I hope it's an entertaining game by that point. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

05-18-2008, 04:37 PM	#483
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	James and Pierce are going at it like 'Nique and Bird in game 7 so far. The only question is can the Cavs have someone, anyone pick things up? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

05-18-2008, 04:56 PM	#484
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	The Celtics have been in control this whole game and to be honest I would be surprised if they lost this game with 9:37 left to go in the 4th quarter. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-18-2008, 05:06 PM	#486
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SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I get the same feeling Nique gave me way back when every time James has the ball. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

05-18-2008, 05:19 PM	#489
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	When did the Flagrant Foul rule rule change? I don't remember announcers constantly yelling about it until recently. Last edited by molson : 05-18-2008 at 05:19 PM.

05-18-2008, 05:23 PM	#491
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	If you told me P.J. Brown was going to take a key shot with just over a minute to play, I would tell you I want Doc Rivers fired... or beheaded. (ok, kidding about the beheading) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

05-18-2008, 05:24 PM	#492
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If the Cavs leave him in the game, I would be fouling Ben Wallace at every opportunity now.

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05-18-2008, 05:31 PM	#494
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	If LeBron and his teammates weren't complaining for the foul they might have been able to foul someone other then Ray Allen who is money at the line. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-18-2008, 05:31 PM	#496
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	LeBron James is a way better player then Wilkins ever was or could be... __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-18-2008, 05:33 PM	#497
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Great decision by Lebron

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Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	The Celtics are a team of fortune. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.