Beijing Olympics 2008 - Page 10

clemsonfan · 08-13-2008, 02:20 PM

I'm doing it whenever I can. Like today I worked out for 1 1/2 hours at the Y (I put the kids in child care while I was working out) so I need to do another half hour tonight at home.

Fidatelo · 08-13-2008, 02:26 PM

So in your quest to be half as good as an Olympic athlete you deprived your children (and yourself) of an hour and a half of quality family time? Interesting...

Galaxy · 08-13-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

shawn johnson, alicia sacramone, samantha peszak, and even nastia liukin all have the potential to grow up to be beautiful young women (in a few years)

then again, alicia is already what...20? so she is a beautiful young woman already - when she's done stunting her body via training i think that will be even more apparent

I think that Alicia is married.

henry296 · 08-13-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Is the age limit rule for all gymnasts or just the females? Also is gymnastics the only sport where there is such an age limit?

I'm pretty sure figure skating also has an age limit.

DaddyTorgo · 08-13-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I think that Alicia is married.

damnit! she has that sexy italian face thing that the first girl i ever fell for had too - the oval face and olive skin...mmmm

clemsonfan · 08-13-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

So in your quest to be half as good as an Olympic athlete you deprived your children (and yourself) of an hour and a half of quality family time? Interesting...

No, I'm a much better mother when I get an hour and a half without my children. It's essential for my sanity and theirs. Besides, it's summer, I'm with them every one of their waking hours except for the 1 1/2 hours I go to the gym.

FrogMan · 08-13-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by clemsonfan

No, I'm a much better mother when I get an hour and a half without my children. It's essential for my sanity and theirs. Besides, it's summer, I'm with them every one of their waking hours except for the 1 1/2 hours I go to the gym.

But then, your situation hardly applies to many of us who have to be at a woprkplace for 8 hours during the day. Note I didn't say you didn't work, cause I know taking care of your kids is a lot of work, but then you were able to be without them for 90 minutes to work out. I cannot leave my work for 90 minutes to go work out although today will be a good day for that getting some kind of work out cause I play soccer tonight.

What I'm trying to say is that for me, saying I will work out 2 hours EVERY day is simply unpossible...

FM

Fidatelo · 08-13-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

But then, your situation hardly applies to many of us who have to be at a woprkplace for 8 hours during the day. Note I didn't say you didn't work, cause I know taking care of your kids is a lot of work, but then you were able to be without them for 90 minutes to work out. I cannot leave my work for 90 minutes to go work out although today will be a good day for that getting some kind of work out cause I play soccer tonight.

What I'm trying to say is that for me, saying I will work out 2 hours EVERY day is simply unpossible...

FM

Exactly.

When I posted, I had no idea clemsonfan was
a) a stay at home parent; and
b) female (not that its relevant, just a new insight).

If I was at home with kids all day I'd be killing to drop 'em off somewhere for a couple hours too

clemsonfan · 08-13-2008, 03:07 PM

No, I understand it's pretty impossible for a lot of people to work out for hours each day. I was just curious if anyone else was inspired to work out more in response to watching the Olympics.

BishopMVP · 08-13-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Because that prevents anyone from trying anything risky and makes things more boring.

Thinking about this last night, I realized two huge flaws. First, they only have 4 events in womens, compared to 6 for the men. More importantly, the 3 up, 3 down format. There's only 12 scores total, and all of them count. That doesn't encourage difficulty - it punishes mistakes (which would seem to fall under the perfection is what gymnastics is about argument someone (SI?) made).

The X Games, for being something performed by borderline retarded/insane people and probably has the same group in charge, gets the scoring right. Everyone gets multiple runs to try crazy new things, and in the end it's almost always the most impressive person/run who wins. Even the NBA Dunk Contest and Home Run Derby fuck up their scoring and have the wrong "winner" most years.

BishopMVP · 08-13-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

When I posted, I had no idea clemsonfan was
b) female (not that its relevant, just a new insight).

I picked up on that last page when she said Alicia Sacramone was attractive "in a completely heterosexual way". I thought all of us in this thread were attracted to her in a heterosexual way.

Galaxy · 08-13-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

Exactly.

When I posted, I had no idea clemsonfan was
a) a stay at home parent; and
b) female (not that its relevant, just a new insight).

You must of missed the "random calls from strangers" thread.

Fidatelo · 08-13-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

You must of missed the "random calls from strangers" thread.

I'm pretty sure I did, although my memory is extremely spotty. For all I know I posted in it!

Huckleberry · 08-13-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Just a thought:

According to the Chinese government, the above female is legal in over half the states in the USA. With that in mind, is there anyone that believes she is actually 16 years old? According to China, she's actually over 16-1/2 years old.

bulletsponge · 08-13-2008, 05:21 PM

i want Alicia to balance on my beam

Crapshoot · 08-13-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by clemsonfan

No, I understand it's pretty impossible for a lot of people to work out for hours each day. I was just curious if anyone else was inspired to work out more in response to watching the Olympics.

I go to the gym at noon everyday - but the Olympics doesn't have much to do with it (other than making me feel inadequate as a man

). Then again,. I'm a single 25 year old guy - I work late, and I'm okay with that.

sterlingice · 08-13-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I wonder what the point spread is on Michael Phelps vs Canada? And I'm not talking Gold's (he's gonna smoke us), but in total medals? I think we might be hard pressed to come away in double digits this year.

Have any good track and field people? Just like swimming, it's one of those sports where you can rack up multiple medals in a hurry.

SI

sterlingice · 08-13-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by clemsonfan

Anyone inspired to up their work out routine after watching the Olympics?

I've got to admit, after hearing that Michael Phelps trains for 5 hours a day, I decided that I'm going to try to work out for 2 hours a day.

I heard somewhere he was also powered by 12K calories per day. I don't think anyone should try that "work out", tho

SI

sterlingice · 08-13-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

and Phelps was 15 in Australia 8 years ago... It might be a gymnastics things.

FM

I know the British had a 14 year old diver. I would suspect this is a gymnastics (and maybe figure skating) thing for the reason posted about 30 ago where basically it came down to which pre-pubescent kid could not stumble. Then again, my next post will be about this, too...

SI

sterlingice · 08-13-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Well this may be a slippery path to go down but what the hell. There are certain things a 14 year old female body can do that a 17,18,19,20 year old female body can not. I can't speak from experience but I assume it is easier to control a 68 pound body while flipping through the air than a 100 pound body.

There was someone talking about this exact thing this morning on NPR. She said that the average Chinese gymnast weighed under 70 lbs while the Americans were over 100. Having to balance that extra weight takes more skill. Also, she was talking as if this was fact and that the NY Times had a bunch of documentation to prove it in a story yesterday or today.

Oh, and there's the whole gymastics as a creepy pedophile's dream thing that someone mentioned earlier. But I don't think that factors into their decision.

For men, it's a bit different. You don't see the young guys because it's to their advantage to develop some more muscle mass. Just think about a 12 year old guy on the rings- not at able to do what some of the older guys were doing the other night.

SI

JonInMiddleGA · 08-13-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

If I was at home with kids all day I'd be killing to drop 'em off somewhere for a couple hours too

Actually you try to get the couple of hours to avoid killing anything

miami_fan · 08-13-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

There was someone talking about this exact thing this morning on NPR. She said that the average Chinese gymnast weighed under 70 lbs while the Americans were over 100. Having to balance that extra weight takes more skill. Also, she was talking as if this was fact and that the NY Times had a bunch of documentation to prove it in a story yesterday or today.

Oh, and there's the whole gymastics as a creepy pedophile's dream thing that someone mentioned earlier. But I don't think that factors into their decision.

For men, it's a bit different. You don't see the young guys because it's to their advantage to develop some more muscle mass. Just think about a 12 year old guy on the rings- not at able to do what some of the older guys were doing the other night.

SI

I would not be so sure that the pedophile thing is not a factor. Maybe not the biggest factor but I am sure someone on the ruling body is bothered by the idea of 12 year old girls rolling around on the floor in tight clothing. Especially in a "To Catch a Predator" world.

Eaglesfan27 · 08-13-2008, 08:18 PM

Anyone know how that thing on Walsh's shoulder works? I assume it is some sort of brace, but I have no idea how it is physically providing support with the shape of it. My wife asked me about it, and I don't have a good answer for her. Ok, now I just got a good shot of it, and I guess I can see where it might provide some support. Still, one of the oddest braces I've ever seen.

sterlingice · 08-13-2008, 08:20 PM

They mentioned the "venom" thing a couple of nights ago- something about increased blood flow but I wasn't really paying attention.

SI

clemsonfan · 08-13-2008, 08:21 PM

I think it also is supposed to increase circlation in that area too.

larrymcg421 · 08-13-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Have any good track and field people? Just like swimming, it's one of those sports where you can rack up multiple medals in a hurry.

SI

Canada only got two medals in the World Championships a year ago, so I doubt it.

I think they'll just have to wait until the Winter games to beat Phelps. I hear he's not much of a speed skater.

Neuqua · 08-13-2008, 08:38 PM

hxxp://machochip.com/2008/08/paraguayan-javelin-thrower-ler.php

Dang!

SirFozzie · 08-13-2008, 08:44 PM

So.. what time is Phelps's final tonight?

Wait.. what do you mean he's not in a final tonight?

You're kidding right?

Uh oh.. withdrawl symptoms...

ISiddiqui · 08-13-2008, 08:50 PM

Are you sure your other name isn't "NBC"?

SirFozzie · 08-13-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Are you sure your other name isn't "NBC"?

Nah, just making fun of the fact that NBC's basically turned their primetime programming into the Phelpslympics from Beijjing

(I wish I could get NBC Olympics.com to work... (win2k machine at work), the women's team sabre is on.. wanna see them win another gold

Eaglesfan27 · 08-13-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

So.. what time is Phelps's final tonight?

Wait.. what do you mean he's not in a final tonight?

You're kidding right?

Uh oh.. withdrawl symptoms...

No problem, just watch NBC's replay of last night's final!

SirFozzie · 08-13-2008, 09:11 PM

Speaking of Women's Team Sabre, I see their first round match is complete, and the USA basically destroys South Africa 45-8. They'd need to lose both of their remaining bouts to not get a medal

Fidatelo · 08-13-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Have any good track and field people? Just like swimming, it's one of those sports where you can rack up multiple medals in a hurry.

SI

I think we have a good rower or something.

*hangs head*

sterlingice · 08-13-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Thinking about this last night, I realized two huge flaws. First, they only have 4 events in womens, compared to 6 for the men. More importantly, the 3 up, 3 down format. There's only 12 scores total, and all of them count. That doesn't encourage difficulty - it punishes mistakes (which would seem to fall under the perfection is what gymnastics is about argument someone (SI?) made).

It was someone else, but I was thinking about this earlier today again. I actually kindof take exception to the statement made with gymnastics being about perfection. If that was the case, then you might as well just go with the easy routine, score 9.5-10 on your execution and, to go back to the BCS example, it explains why very few teams want to play good non-conference games since there's no reward for the risk.

I'm actually glad for the new system- it should work better in theory. I'd rather, for instance, a harder dismount with a big step than an easy jump off the bar that's stuck. The problem is that the judges need to adjust their thoughts of execution- they still score like it's the old system.

SI

sterlingice · 08-14-2008, 12:16 AM

This just in- pommel horse difficulty scoring is stupid. The American who was break dancing on it for a good 30 seconds (had to count as lots of elements) gets less than 1 point more than the guys who just kindof swing around on it and then get off.

SI

Lorena · 08-14-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

hxxp://machochip.com/2008/08/paraguayan-javelin-thrower-ler.php

Dang!

Man, I'd kill for legs like the pic where she's looking out the window... jeez, what a body.

BishopMVP · 08-14-2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I think we have a good rower or something.

*hangs head*

Just wait until next week when Ben Johnson represents Canada.

Too soon?

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

This just in- pommel horse difficulty scoring is stupid. The American who was break dancing on it for a good 30 seconds (had to count as lots of elements) gets less than 1 point more than the guys who just kindof swing around on it and then get off.

Pommel horse as a whole is stupid for 95% of the guys. Then there are maybe 2 or 3 (Arshavin included) who make you stand up and say wow. Yet they get at best .5 better. Bring the balance beam back for the guys. I know the urban legend stories about why they don't do it, but it would at least provide some fantastic viral youtube videos.

Hammer755 · 08-14-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by clemsonfan

No, I understand it's pretty impossible for a lot of people to work out for hours each day. I was just curious if anyone else was inspired to work out more in response to watching the Olympics.

Michael Phelps has inspired me to eat more chocolate chip pancakes. I know that much.

Alan T · 08-14-2008, 07:08 AM

What does the different color jersey signify in team volleyball? One player on each team has a different color completely. Just curious, since they didn't seem to be anything special other than I never noticed any of them serving ever.

Neon_Chaos · 08-14-2008, 07:13 AM

USA vs. Greece, men's basketball... on-going.

We'll see if the USA can avenge the World Championships.

henry296 · 08-14-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

What does the different color jersey signify in team volleyball? One player on each team has a different color completely. Just curious, since they didn't seem to be anything special other than I never noticed any of them serving ever.

I know that they call the person the Libero. I think they can go anywhere on the court and are not required to stay in the back or front line.

Alan T · 08-14-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by henry296

I know that they call the person the Libero. I think they can go anywhere on the court and are not required to stay in the back or front line.

They seem to always be almost the smallest or the smallest person on the court is something else I noticed.

ISiddiqui · 08-14-2008, 07:26 AM

And Yang Wei smokes the field in men's individual gymnastics. One of the medals that moved China to #1 in the medal count and a stunning 22 Gold Medals (that's 12 more than 2nd place US)

spleen1015 · 08-14-2008, 07:45 AM

I think they are the player designated as the setter.

SirFozzie · 08-14-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

They seem to always be almost the smallest or the smallest person on the court is something else I noticed.

That's because it's illegal for them to set the ball in the front court, or block/spike the ball if it's above net level. Basically they're the defensive specialist whose job is to dig out all the opponent spikes.

sterlingice · 08-14-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Pommel horse as a whole is stupid for 95% of the guys. Then there are maybe 2 or 3 (Arshavin included) who make you stand up and say wow. Yet they get at best .5 better. Bring the balance beam back for the guys. I know the urban legend stories about why they don't do it, but it would at least provide some fantastic viral youtube videos.

Or just make it worthwhile for those guys who can do the awesome stuff. They talk about how elements are worth 0.1 up to 0.7 based on whether they are A-F difficulty. Just swinging around on the pommel horse should be at most a 0.2 or 0.3 while what he does is 0.7. The score is based on the top 10 elements so if the most the bad ones get is 3.0 (0.3 x 10) while the good ones can get the "usual" 5-7 for starting value and I think a lot more people would try to do good stuff.

SI

Neon_Chaos · 08-14-2008, 08:14 AM

Wow. That was an insane 1st half for the US Basketball team against Greece. 3rd quarter, and they're in control.

DaddyTorgo · 08-14-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

And Yang Wei smokes the field in men's individual gymnastics. One of the medals that moved China to #1 in the medal count and a stunning 22 Gold Medals (that's 12 more than 2nd place US)

so you're saying phelps has like half of the US gold medals?

miami_fan · 08-14-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Wow. That was an insane 1st half for the US Basketball team against Greece. 3rd quarter, and they're in control.

And that was with Kobe shooting bricks

Neon_Chaos · 08-14-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

And that was with Kobe shooting bricks

Kobe and Lebron are the defensive heart and soul of this team. Wade is the offensive beast.

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clemsonfan High School JV Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dayton, OH	No, I understand it's pretty impossible for a lot of people to work out for hours each day. I was just curious if anyone else was inspired to work out more in response to watching the Olympics.

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