NBA Draft Lottery/Draft/Offseason thread.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Columnist Peter Vescey's NBA sources indicate the Rockets are "leaning toward" trading Tracy McGrady, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks to the Suns for Leandro Barbosa and Amare Stoudemire.

Stoudemire has been disgruntled in Phoenix for a while now, and ESPN's Ric Bucher reported on Thursday that he will indeed be traded. The Suns would acquire two solid young players in Landry and Brooks, while gaining financial flexibility with T-Mac's expiring $22 million contract. So far nothing is official, but stay tuned throughout what promises to be a hectic draft day.

I would hate to lose both Landry and Brooks in the deal, leaving us with Kyle Lowry as our sole PG. And it might give us the most injury prone frontcourt in the league with Amare and Yao. Yet the possibility of this trade excites me for some reason. Ah well, in Daryl Morey I trust...

[Arles]

Local Phoenix radio just said there's no interest from the Phoenix side in the Houston deal and that it's completely false. They did say there's some interest in a Golden State deal that would involve Biedrins, #7 and one other player (Belinelli or Wright).

[Arles]

They also just said this rumor - Suns move Ben Wallace's expiring contract + picks/cash to New orleans for Tyson Chandler. Sounds like Wallace will do a buyout - which would save the Hornets $3-4 million this season and over $13 million next season. Chandler would be a better fit in the Suns uptempo offense than Shaq.

Not sure I buy it, but it is interesting.

[Icy]

Draftexpress says that the trade of Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento from Portland is done. Does it mean they want an Spanish there to help Rubio to adapt to the NBA quicker?

[whomario]

Originally Posted by Arles

Local Phoenix radio just said there's no interest from the Phoenix side in the Houston deal and that it's completely false. They did say there's some interest in a Golden State deal that would involve Biedrins, #7 and one other player (Belinelli or Wright).

Now there´s reports of both Wright and Belinelli in adition to Beans and the 7th pick, which would actually be good value all things considered

Hope Nash stays. If nothing else we´d get 1 or possibly 2 more years (pending on how his body keeps up) of vintage 7 seconds or less. And Wright and Biedrins better be prepared to get a lot of Pick and Roll passes all of a sudden, which both could be pretty good at from what i k now.
Plus the 7 might end up being Curry. Seriously, this team would really intrigue me.
And at 14 maybe Terrence Williams or Earl Clark ?
Plus Belinelli isn´t bad either, could end up being a solid 20 minute guy on a good team.

definitely an interesting idea

Originally Posted by Icy

Draftexpress says that the trade of Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento from Portland is done. Does it mean they want an Spanish there to help Rubio to adapt to the NBA quicker?

doubt it. Rodriguez wants to play, can´t see him going into veteran-mode and be a assistant coach in uniform ... I mean, Udrih is still there as well. But maybe Udrih will be traded ? (doubt it though, is overpaid and just not close to starting material. His per-minute production is highly subpar ... )
Doesn´t mean they won´t draft a PG (Evans, Flynn), just that i can´t see them trading for Rodriguez because they want to take (and keep) Rubio.
Rubio might actually fall to the Wolves, who then could snatch him AND another player at 6 without doing another trade.

btw via draftexpress :

7:35

No team or agent has any clue what is going to happen. That's the bottom line. Everyone is calling everyone and no one can really say what is going to happen.

those last 2 days have been crazy


Rubio could also go at 3, Presti apparently didn´t give any indicationa dn they did hire a law firm in spain. But who knows, right now it´s wild guessing all arround

[Icy]

Ouch, things look bad for Rubio, even if he is picked at #5, his contract won't be enough profitable to pay his release clause, so he might decide to stay in Spain.

[whomario]

no big surprise yet,

1)Griffin
2)Thabeet (what happens to Gasol ? Neither can move to the 4 spot, Gasol is a starter)
3)Harden (makes sense, they needed a 2 guard)
4)Evans (makes sense again, he´s gonna be good right away and fits next to Martin who doesn´t need the ball terribly much to score a ton)

Now the Wolves. Definitely gonna be a good and intriguing duo here at 5,6 for them. Rubio should be a lock for them to take, can´t pass on him with 2 picks here. Then Curry makes most sense ... Or they draft big and take Hill.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by Icy

Ouch, things look bad for Rubio, even if he is picked at #5, his contract won't be enough profitable to pay his release clause, so he might decide to stay in Spain.

he´s stated yesterday though that he´s going to make it happen, no matter where picked. He looks pleased enough as well.

[Icy]

Finally.
Not a bad thing as it's a team rebuilding from zero with all those picks, so he could be the starter and have a ton of minutes. He said he didn't like the city weather but... anyway let's see what happens with his contract buyout.

On the other hand, i'm so happy about Sergio Rodriguez going to Sacramento, as he had no future in Portland. Let's see if he can finally show why he was for some time the most promising Spanish player.

[MikeVic]

I can't get to nba.com, fantastic.

[whomario]

What the ... ? Now this is a combination of picks that makes no sense at all if they don´t trade one of them ?
Not only do they take 2 PGs but also 2 PGs that lack a good outside shot so playing both together would be kind of a bad idea...

[DeToxRox]

Rubio's sponsors will pay his buyout.

[Icy]

Umm another guard? maybe Rubio will end in the Knicks by a trade as he wanted?

[sterlingice]

The all PG team they are making will be fun to watch

SI

[sterlingice]

Knicks fans are so funny

SI

[Big Fo]

Knick fans thought they were getting Curry, tough luck.

[Eaglesfan27]

I love seeing Golden State doing that to the Knicks.

[spleen1015]

I was hoping Flynn somehow dropped to the Pacers.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

I like Lee and have never been a Carter fan but if Turkoglu resigns that will make a pretty nice starting five. I didn't know anything about Anderson but looking at his stats he seems like a decent rebounder and shooter who is 6'10''.

The ESPN.com trade machine says this is good for +7 wins next year so I'll focus on that instead of my dislike of Vince Carter. At least he only has two years left on his contract. With no Battie and Gortat likely on his way they'll have to get another big man at some point.

I would say better than a pretty nice starting 5. I think that would become the best starting 5 in the league. Nice move for Orlando.

[miami_fan]

NICE! Well, Don Nelson won't require him to play defense either so he is in good shape

[Swaggs]

Is Matt Millen the GM of the T-Wolves?

[bhlloy]

haha. hahaha. hahahaha. I don't actually dislike the Knicks but that was pretty funny. I think that's Karma for telling everybody for the last month that you plan to take a guy at a certain position.

[whomario]

Lol @ New York´s collective uproar over the Warriors taking Curry

Curry meets Nelly-ball =

[DeToxRox]

Hill is the 3rd best player in the draft IMO, and the Knicks have him fall to their laps. If they pass on him, oh boy.

[MikeVic]

I wanna see Curry playing Nelly-ball.

[Big Fo]

lol at the little kid giving the thumbs down and his dad twisting his wrist into a thumbs up

[Schmidty]

The Knicks just drafted Mikki Moore.

[bhlloy]

That's a nice pick. Knicks fans are morons.

It is unreal how many busts there are in the NBA draft. When ESPN shows the first round picks from the last 5 years, it's like a who's who of crappy players and unheard of again Euro's. No wonder so many of these teams are picking high every year.

[miami_fan]

Who is better, Chris Bosh or Jordan Hill?

[MikeVic]

Thought he didn't want to play in Canada, otherwise I like the pick.

[bhlloy]

I think DeRozan could be a poor man's DWade, but he will need a lot of time to develop. He really didn't perform for SC at all until the last month of the season, and that was against college level defenders.

[DeToxRox]

Yeeesh. Jennings at 10?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Yeeesh. Jennings at 10?

Not saying it's a good pick, but what really is out there now?

SI

[Atocep]

Hollinger's draft rater has Jordan Hill and DeRozan as the two biggest busts in this draft. It rated Hill in the mid-20s, so not too huge of a bust but still a disappointment. It has DeRozan rated 54th, though.

It'll be interesting to see how they do.

[DeToxRox]

Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Not saying it's a good pick, but what really is out there now?

SI

Eric Maynor. Kid will be a stud.

[Samdari]

Don't congratulate the Knicks too much for that pick. Somehow, Hill is going to Minnesota for Rubio, probably with David Lee once the Knicks can sign him.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.

I honestly can't see how Maynor could go ahead of Ty Lawson.

[MikeVic]

Terrence Williams is the guy that carries a Barbie backpack and has Spongebob socks right?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.

Good Lord, I hope that guarantee to Mullens is just a rumor. The guy is a stiff and a tool.

I'd take Earl Clark happily.

[spleen1015]

Larry Bird is a dumbass.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm surprised that Hansbrough went that early.

[DaddyTorgo]

lol look - we have shitty PG's but we're going to take a big white stiff!

[Schmidty]

Bird's a racist.

[miami_fan]

Troy Mruphy, Mike Dunleavy........was there any doubt that Hansbrough would be the pick there?

[DeToxRox]

Ugh. Joe D just don't take Mullens or Daye. Please.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Ugh. Joe D just don't take Mullens or Daye. Please.

+1

[spleen1015]

There was mention locally that the Pacers were looking to trade for later picks with Chicago. I really hope that's what this is.

[DeToxRox]

The Pacers are petitioning to the NBA to include diving for loose balls as an official stat.

[Schmidty]

Damn. I would have liked Earl Clark.