Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899

[Schmidty]

Unvote Autumn

For now. EF gains nothing by this reveal now. We die either way if he's right.

Vote Eaglefan

For now.

[DaddyTorgo]

EF - what if it comes down to take the minor victory with us or die? what's your choice then?

[DaddyTorgo]

how bout you hand over the cunning and then i'll let you lynch me?

[Schmidty]

Why is no one answering or at least responding to my posts? Are you two riffing off of each other? I can't imagine DT being bad, but it just seems weird.

[Thomkal]

well that's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs there EF

vote EagleFan

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Why is no one answering or at least responding to my posts? Are you two riffing off of each other? I can't imagine DT being bad, but it just seems weird.

heya *looking for your posts*

just trying to figure out what's goin on here

[Schmidty]

GAH!!!! I hate this!!! is EF a wolf drawing votes off of Thomkal or Autumn? Hello? Anyone have some ideas or excuses?

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmm - it's certainly possible.

i'm really not sure what his angle is right now at the moment. would we have 2 people with essentially identical roles (contacting the wolves, neutral, independent win conditions) in the same game?

[DaddyTorgo]

i think it's certainly possible. but if i'm the wolves and i'm in a game with non-aligned people i typically designate one wolf to be the contact-person, and i would NEVER reveal the cunning.

[DaddyTorgo]

i've got an interrogation i can use...and we can lynch the person right away if we find a wolf via it...

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll give myself up if you give up the cunning EF...how's that for a deal?

[Schmidty]

This is frustrating. I don't know who to believe right now. No one else is here that hasn't put their two cents in, so I'm going to watch the Home Run Derby for awhile.

[DaddyTorgo]

we lynch the cunning and then everyone will lynch me

[DaddyTorgo]

brian's here

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

so basically both EF and PB have said that they have earned the trust of wolves. EF on day 2 said CR was "questionable." PB on Friday sent me a PM saying that CR was a wolf and we needed to get him.

hmm...who to believe....

I have no idea what PB may have done but this was my power. If he gained information during the normal PM's than bravo PB and well done. I went underground on day one to gain information and passed that information along. That information gave me three names and I passed them along as they were given to me. There is not much else I could have done at that point. I gained an informant which ended up being a conspiracy contact.

Like I said, you need to be killed for me to get a major victory. I doubt it will happen and I am not trying to gain your trust anyway, I want you gone so why would I want your trust?

Based on what I see I now feel that I have the power to either win the game for the village or sit back and watch the wolves win thanks to their cunning.

It's up to you.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'll give myself up if you give up the cunning EF...how's that for a deal?

Then the wolves take me out tonight and I don't gain that major victory.

[EagleFan]

Sorry, just being a little selfish. I will reveal once the vote is done, in case of night kill on me.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Then the wolves take me out tonight and I don't gain that major victory.

not if i interrogate you so they can't kill you

[Thomkal]

this is just bizarre on EagleFan's part. He's clearly been stirring up confusion all game, so I'm not even sure we can believe what he's telling us now. I'd say interrogate him if you can DT.

[Autumn]

Sounds like a whole lot of crazy. No one seems interested in catching the wolf I did find, but I don't mind lynching another one. Chances are EF is a wolf hoping to keep alive by passing as a neutral. Or maybe that's PB's game, I don't know. but I agree, there's not going to be two of them. Ill vote for the one trying to off Jack Bauer.

unvote the jackal
vote eaglefan

[DaddyTorgo]

even assuming there's a cunning in the CoT there's no guarantee that they'll win. or that they even told you the right name. i NEVER tell neutral's who the cunning is. ever ever.

[DaddyTorgo]

that i can thomkal

[DaddyTorgo]

actually autumn...like i said in thinking about it i'm thinking more that you may be correct.

so should i interrogate EF, or should we just lynch him and i'll interrogate someone else?

[PurdueBrad]

I'm not ready to get distracted by EF, focus on a wolf, we can come back to this if needed.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

this is just bizarre on EagleFan's part. He's clearly been stirring up confusion all game, so I'm not even sure we can believe what he's telling us now. I'd say interrogate him if you can DT.

He's clearly hoping to get interrogated. My guess he's hoping to make you waste it, DT, maybe he's the cunning or he just really is a neutral, I don't know. But waste the interrogation on him and then you've still got to lynch one of jackal or I to solve this issue. I say we lynch him - best case he's really a wolf, worst case he's really a neutral and we eliminate some one with another win condition.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm not sure either...i just know that PB for sure passed us a wolf who we lynched, where Eagle just said CR was "questionable" in a list of 3 names he gave me.

for good reason that leads me to trust PB more...i don't see a wolf giving up another wolf at that point in the game, when the wolves were not under threat, versus a wolf giving me 1 wolf name out of 3 names at the beginning of the game

[PurdueBrad]

Interrogate EF or me, go for one of the independents. Obviously EF makes more sense but I offer myself as well.

This way we lynch a wolf and get info.

[EagleFan]

I think I just made some enemies based on a PM I just received from my contact. I am as good as gone before the end but they also had a message for PB. They said that you can kiss your major victory condition goodbye. But they may reconsider if you vote out DT tonight.

I don't know if I would trust them if I were you but that is your decision to make. I know that tonight is most likely my last night and I think I may want to avoid some of the areas where these guys live for a while.

I hoe that the wolves don't take this personally. It's a game and in the spirit of the 24 theme. If I run into any of you sometime I will buy you a beer if that will help make ammends.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

He's clearly hoping to get interrogated. My guess he's hoping to make you waste it, DT, maybe he's the cunning or he just really is a neutral, I don't know. But waste the interrogation on him and then you've still got to lynch one of jackal or I to solve this issue. I say we lynch him - best case he's really a wolf, worst case he's really a neutral and we eliminate some one with another win condition.

yeah

[BrianD]

I don't see what we gain by lynching EF. If he is a villager with a separate major win condition, lynching him is just a waste of time. Nobody is going to lynch DT, and we can find the cunning wolf if there is one. As EF has been saying recently, this is just about over. That tells me we've got all of the wolves in our non-trust list. I say we go Autumn, Thomkal, and The Jackal...in that order.

[Autumn]

Pass had told us EF was bad, is that right? So we know the wolves were ready to have him offed. I don't nkow what that implies other than that EF is at best on the outs with the wolves, or at worst is just lying about knowing who they are.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Danny

I got some PM info and am trusting someone with that vote.

For anyone that may be doubting me, I might as well just do this. That someone is me and DT got the same PM from me about 15 minutes prior.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Pass had told us EF was bad, is that right? So we know the wolves were ready to have him offed. I don't nkow what that implies other than that EF is at best on the outs with the wolves, or at worst is just lying about knowing who they are.

very good point autumn

i actually disagree somewhat about going autumn first - his analysis has been very good this game (bringing up points like this)

[PurdueBrad]

DT, is there any chance that somehow EF can attack you if you interrogate him?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

For anyone that may be doubting me, I might as well just do this. That someone is me and DT got the same PM from me about 15 minutes prior.

this is correct

[DaddyTorgo]

i suppose. i'm thinking more that we just ignore him for now...settle on who we want me to interrogate, and then when i get the results of that we lynch

[DaddyTorgo]

shall i interrogate autumn? thomkal? isiddiqui? jackal? kingfc?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

very good point autumn

i actually disagree somewhat about going autumn first - his analysis has been very good this game (bringing up points like this)

Thank you. Somebody's listening. *sniff*

[PurdueBrad]

And let me throw this out there: Danny worked incredibly hard to protect my identity as did DT. Watching Danny have to squirm through that was the hardest WW thing I've had to endure. Even though it was right for my win conditions, it truly felt like the wrong thing to do to let Danny take that abuse. So Danny and DT, thanks.

Wolves, go ahead and take me as your night kill but lets get a freaking wolf before I go.

[PurdueBrad]

Vote count?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i suppose. i'm thinking more that we just ignore him for now...settle on who we want me to interrogate, and then when i get the results of that we lynch

I hate to be a pest, but as time clicks on I'm going to get lynched regardless of your results the way votes are now, I think.

[DaddyTorgo]

we'll they're going to have to pick between you and EF it sounds like PB. if what he said can be remotely believed.

PB was up-front with me from his initial PM guys - even though he has a victory condition of making it to the last 6 i told him I'd do what I could to get him to that in exchange for what he provided to us .

[PurdueBrad]

DT, in order, I would say interrogate:

Autumn
Jackal
Thomkal
ISsiddiqui
king

Obviously swap Jackal and Autumn depending on the vote.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

And let me throw this out there: Danny worked incredibly hard to protect my identity as did DT. Watching Danny have to squirm through that was the hardest WW thing I've had to endure. Even though it was right for my win conditions, it truly felt like the wrong thing to do to let Danny take that abuse. So Danny and DT, thanks.

Wolves, go ahead and take me as your night kill but lets get a freaking wolf before I go.

Why was it important to protect your identity? Once you had revealed the information was there more you could do? Or was that part of their deal with you somehow?

[PurdueBrad]

DT, if EF actually knows a wolf identity, they'll pick him. If he doesn't, they'll pick me.

[DaddyTorgo]

well autumn's in the lead - so either people should jump off him till i get the results or i should go with thomkal cuz when autumn is lynched it will tell us about jackal

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Why was it important to protect your identity? Once you had revealed the information was there more you could do? Or was that part of their deal with you somehow?

was part of the deal i made with him

[EagleFan]

There is no need to pick between anyone. PB is not a wolf.

[Autumn]

Obivously I'm biased but I continue to say, interrogating one of jackal or me clears/condems the two of us. So lynch further down that list, Thomkal, and then interrogate one of us and you have three people moved through.

Or EF and we'll know what he's up to.

[DaddyTorgo]

i agree with you autumn. just wonder if we can get the move off you?