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Old 07-13-2009, 07:37 PM   #2601
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Why was it important to protect your identity? Once you had revealed the information was there more you could do? Or was that part of their deal with you somehow?

Things were still goofy enough at that point that I was hoping the wolves felt there was a chance that the info came from a seer or another player rather than me.

I revealed myself to the wolves early by intentionally misspelling 'conspiracy' twice as 'conspriacy' and the deal was that if they dropped that code back, I would help them out. CR, the night he was lynched, dropped that code back to me when I announced I was choosing between him and Telle. I stayed on Telle to help my place with the wolves to let me live longer (I even apologized to DT and Danny for not being able to help lynch CR) so they wouldn't believe it was me.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:38 PM   #2602
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guys if we move off autumn i will interrogate one of him or jackal...but i want to be sure we move first...
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:39 PM   #2603
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:39 PM   #2604
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:39 PM   #2605
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autumn's right about the math - with one lynch and interrogation we can move through 3 people if we move off autumn onto someone lower on the list.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:39 PM   #2606
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Oops, hit enter too soon, but Danny did an amazing job of generating votes with the info I gave him but I was selfish and didn't help him. Big regret even though it would've cost me the game sooner.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:40 PM   #2607
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DT, where do you want me to move as I am on Autumn?
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:41 PM   #2608
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i don't want to get a result saying whoever is good but not have enuf people to move the lynch so it's a wasted interrogation
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:41 PM   #2609
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:41 PM   #2610
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hmm...thomkal or isiddiqui...
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:43 PM   #2611
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I'll gladly go back to Thomkal.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:43 PM   #2612
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:43 PM   #2613
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unvote DT

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You better vote DT tomorrow or that information may go with me to my grave.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:44 PM   #2614
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:44 PM   #2615
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well you know what my power is DT, so might be good if you cleared me.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:44 PM   #2616
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unvote DT

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You better vote DT tomorrow or that information may go with me to my grave.

i thought you were dead tonight anyways? you're spewing a lot of contradictions...
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:45 PM   #2617
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and by clearing me, I didn't mean lynch, geez
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:47 PM   #2618
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hey EF - if you tell us who the wolves are we can get rid of them both tonight - lynch one and i interrogate the second one to freeze them
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:47 PM   #2619
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i thought you were dead tonight anyways? you're spewing a lot of contradictions...

I probably am but I am hoping they follow through with their PB threat first. At least in this case we get a wolf and are one step closer to victory. I lose my connection with the wolves though as he was my contact.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:47 PM   #2620
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:48 PM   #2621
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hey EF - if you tell us who the wolves are we can get rid of them both tonight - lynch one and i interrogate the second one to freeze them

Trying to be selfish first. Vote out DT and then we'll go forward with it.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:48 PM   #2622
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I probably am but I am hoping they follow through with their PB threat first. At least in this case we get a wolf and are one step closer to victory. I lose my connection with the wolves though as he was my contact.

so you're saying thomkal is a wolf then. okay
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:49 PM   #2623
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Thomkal, now is probably the time to be open about your power.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:51 PM   #2624
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Guys I'm telling you I'm the villager here. You're going to be kicking yourself for sure for being fooled by the wolves orchestrating this vote on nothing other than I'm uncleared.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:53 PM   #2625
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His power is that he could potentially convert someone when he attacks. I did get a kick out of their attempt on DT when he told me about it, thought how funny would that be if it was a conversion (I wouldn't have minded losing that way if it happened as it would be memorable).

On the memorable note, I am offering a chance to make a memorable play. Lynch Jack, then win the gme.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:55 PM   #2626
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EF, your best would've been to cast DT as being converted which is why he lived through the attack. That may have driven some votes on DT for you.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:56 PM   #2627
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His power is that he could potentially convert someone when he attacks. I did get a kick out of their attempt on DT when he told me about it, thought how funny would that be if it was a conversion (I wouldn't have minded losing that way if it happened as it would be memorable).

On the memorable note, I am offering a chance to make a memorable play. Lynch Jack, then win the gme.

funny that's not what he told me, although he did say it involved something surrounding an attack.

honestly though, that leads me to believe you more in this case EF, as if I was a wolf I'd pick something somewhat close to my actual power to fake (just easier), and the odds of you coming up with that out of nowhere are fairly slim
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:56 PM   #2628
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Yes I'm really sure they are going to believing anything you say right now EagleFan.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:58 PM   #2629
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you gotta admit though Thomkal - that sounds suspiciously like what you told me your power was (% of something happening on attack. you told him it was conversion, you told me it was discovering who the attacker was and you'd survive).

What are the odds that EF came up with that fake-power for you independently?
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:58 PM   #2630
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EF, your best would've been to cast DT as being converted which is why he lived through the attack. That may have driven some votes on DT for you.

Why? He wasn't. Then if he gets lynched and comes up good no one is going to believe me when I tell them the final wolves. Unless thewolves didn't trust me enough to tell me the conversion was successful but I am not even going to try to speculate on that as I would vote for myself for saying that.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:59 PM   #2631
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hey mr. duke - feel free to use your power if you have a strong feeling on either thomkal or EF.

if enough votes move off autumn then i will interrogate one of autumn/jackal to clear that up.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:00 PM   #2632
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even assuming there's a cunning in the CoT there's no guarantee that they'll win. or that they even told you the right name. i NEVER tell neutral's who the cunning is. ever ever.

Hell, when I'm a wolf I never even tell my fellow wolves if I'm cunning.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:01 PM   #2633
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I would like to see the move go to Thomkal right now, let DT decide the Autumn/Jackal debate (for the record, I'm leaning towards believing Autumn), and see what we've got.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:01 PM   #2634
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Hell, when I'm a wolf I never even tell my fellow wolves if I'm cunning.

omg you're one crafty SOB...lol
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:03 PM   #2635
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ISiddiqui: Henry (2306, 11:53 PM)
Thomkal: Brian (2408 11:56 am) ntn (2413 12:30 pm) PB (2616 7:43) EF (2617 7:43) DT (2618 7:44 pm) Autumn (2624 7:47)
Autumn: path (2388 11:17 am) Jackal (2445, 3:56 PM) Saldana (2474, 5:01 PM) King (2480, 5:19 PM)
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:03 PM   #2636
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you gotta admit though Thomkal - that sounds suspiciously like what you told me your power was (% of something happening on attack. you told him it was conversion, you told me it was discovering who the attacker was and you'd survive).

What are the odds that EF came up with that fake-power for you independently?

Oh I dunno, since we've been talking about conversion a lot over the past few days? And if the wolves have a conversion power, he's known about it since day 1. I'm telling you, he's the wolf here not me.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:05 PM   #2637
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For anyone that may be doubting me, I might as well just do this. That someone is me and DT got the same PM from me about 15 minutes prior.

This is weird. Why do you feel the need to defend yourself when we already have three suspects to decide between?

If anything, this would make me look at you first for the cunning.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:07 PM   #2638
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Pass had told us EF was bad, is that right? So we know the wolves were ready to have him offed. I don't nkow what that implies other than that EF is at best on the outs with the wolves, or at worst is just lying about knowing who they are.

That's what I've been saying.
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but would the cunning give up a wolf to gain trust when no wolves were under-fire?
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:08 PM   #2640
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This is weird. Why do you feel the need to defend yourself when we already have three suspects to decide between?

If anything, this would make me look at you first for the cunning.

but would the cunning give up a wolf out of the blue to gain trust when no wolves were under-fire?
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:08 PM   #2641
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This is weird. Why do you feel the need to defend yourself when we already have three suspects to decide between?

If anything, this would make me look at you first for the cunning.

I did it because DT put out there that I sent him the name of a wolf in a PM AND EF was lumping me in with him so I went for full disclosure of my spot. And a few had alluded to my individual win conditions.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:09 PM   #2642
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UNVOTE AUTUMN
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I'd rather vote EF but I'll go with Jack.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:09 PM   #2643
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This is weird. Why do you feel the need to defend yourself when we already have three suspects to decide between?

If anything, this would make me look at you first for the cunning.

Unless Thom is lying to me PB is not the cunning. PB sent me a PM claiming the third party role. Granted it could have been the wolves trying to test me but I believe him.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:10 PM   #2644
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I'd rather vote EF but I'll go with Jack.

even after what schmidty and autumn have been saying about Pass setting EF up to be killed?

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I did it because DT put out there that I sent him the name of a wolf in a PM AND EF was lumping me in with him so I went for full disclosure of my spot. And a few had alluded to my individual win conditions.

DT is the one lumping you in with me. I have never claimed that it is either you or me.
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I phrased that poorly EF, I just meant that we end up being aligned because we have separate win conditions.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:12 PM   #2647
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but would the cunning give up a wolf out of the blue to gain trust when no wolves were under-fire?

To get in a CoT? Hell yeah.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:12 PM   #2648
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Anyone watching the HR Derby? Does it seem A LOT more boring this year? Other than Hamilton going off, what is missing this year?
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:13 PM   #2649
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To get in a CoT? Hell yeah.

So Henry, Danny, DT, and EF all say I'm not a wolf, we have numerous people that we can make a nice push on, and this is the angle you're pushing? Why not try to lynch DT with EF?
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I'm very annoyed by what is going on. I feel like there are a small group right now that is either mostly honest, or mostly about to dust the rest of the quiet ones. Of course, with my track record, I can't bitch about being quiet.
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