Pick your NFL Young Gun (Choose two)

albionmoonlight · 01-15-2013, 02:40 PM

You are taking over a generic NFL team. And you get to pick which of the following 1st or 2nd year quarterbacks you want on your team.

To make it a little more interesting, pick your top two choices.

albionmoonlight · 01-15-2013, 02:44 PM

My first thought? There is a lot of young QB talent in the league.

BillJasper · 01-15-2013, 02:53 PM

Luck/Wilson.

I'd have probably taken RGIII, but I had a feeling even before the season started that durability would be a long term issue.

Kaepernick is a nice player, but I am not so sure how he would do without all the weapons he already has around him. Not sure he's a "ground floor" type of player.

Alan T · 01-15-2013, 02:56 PM

What do you consider a young QB? You left off a ton of QBs that are younger than Brandon Weeden (age 28): Stafford, Matt Ryan, Flacco, etc). In fact, I think Aaron Rodgers and Weeden are close to the same age.

You have Dalton listed, but several other QBs the same age you don't have listed: Stafford, Bradford, Freeman as examples..

stevew · 01-15-2013, 02:56 PM

My list would be
Luck
RG3
Newton
Kaepernick
Wilson.

stevew · 01-15-2013, 02:57 PM

Weeden being traded for Kevin Brown is a funny story.

BillJasper · 01-15-2013, 02:58 PM

It says first or second year player in the first post.

Alan T · 01-15-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

In fact, I think Aaron Rodgers and Weeden are close to the same age.

Just looked it up, Rogers is actually younger than Weeden...

Personally considering how long QBs play these days (age 35-37) with high quality, I probably would pick Rogers over any of these guys and get another good 6-8 years out of him. He is only 5-6 years older than most of these guys who aren't necessarily sure things yet (due to possible injury issues, or just time in the league)

Alan T · 01-15-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

It says first or second year player in the first post.

Ahh, I missed that line, thanks

albionmoonlight · 01-15-2013, 03:03 PM

I just picked the last two drafts. Weeden does kind of screw that up age-wise.

And, yeah, if I had the whole league to choose from, and I took off my Saints/Brees homer glasses, I would pick Rogers. The right mix of excellent and still young enough.

stevew · 01-15-2013, 03:05 PM

Rodgers is easily 1.1 in an NFL dispersal draft

MIJB#19 · 01-15-2013, 03:09 PM

Before injury, I would have picked RGIII. But with those woes already started, it's Luck or Wilson, depending on what type of offense you want to run.

RedKingGold · 01-15-2013, 03:18 PM

Andrew Luck and Trout Troutman. If I could get the former, I wouldn't care about who I got with the latter.

RedKingGold · 01-15-2013, 03:19 PM

Also, as a 49ers fan who loves Kaepernick, if you gave Jim Harbaugh the choice of Luck or Kaepernick, I bet he goes Luck each and every time.

Logan · 01-15-2013, 03:24 PM

I voted Luck followed by Kaepernick, but if I wasn't a Niner fan, I'd go Wilson since I've loved him from his time at NC State.

But yes, no doubt Luck would be my first choice. If he was a completely immobile QB, I think it would be more debatable.

Crapshoot · 01-15-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Also, as a 49ers fan who loves Kaepernick, if you gave Jim Harbaugh the choice of Luck or Kaepernick, I bet he goes Luck each and every time.

No doubt. Luck is a once-in-a-generation type. He has the greatest chance of growing up to be Tom Brady.

Thomkal · 01-15-2013, 03:34 PM

No one had better pick Ryan Lindley, myself included.

albionmoonlight · 01-15-2013, 03:58 PM

Ryan Lindley should not pick Ryan Lindley in this poll.

albionmoonlight · 12-12-2019, 11:50 AM

dola.

Hard to argue with our choices of Luck/Wilson, especially b/c Luck was not really known as injury prone.

I'm surprised Cam didn't get more love.

bhlloy · 12-12-2019, 11:54 AM

Yeah, this might be my least bad FOFC future take ever. I’m proud of me not picking Ryan Lindley.

Kodos · 12-12-2019, 01:49 PM

It's a shame that Troutman suffered such a horrific CEI.

jbergey22 · 12-12-2019, 01:59 PM

Not much love for Cam 7 years ago.

stevew · 12-12-2019, 04:30 PM

Looks like most poll participants are out of Luck.

Chief Rum · 12-12-2019, 07:48 PM

Scary to think that, after Wilson, the best QB left on that list now might be a guy who just got the starting gig a few weeks ago. The only other guy in discussion for #2, IMO, is Cousins.

NobodyHere · 12-12-2019, 07:49 PM

The Jaguars chose...poorly

bhlloy · 12-13-2019, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Scary to think that, after Wilson, the best QB left on that list now might be a guy who just got the starting gig a few weeks ago. The only other guy in discussion for #2, IMO, is Cousins.

The Tannehill question is fascinating to me. I think there's some underlying numbers (he's still throwing INTs at a top 10 rate) that mean his performance so far this year is partly a mirage, but if he shows the same next season - on a team that to be honest is pretty devoid of receiving talent - what does that mean for the Dolphins that he leaves and immediately becomes a good starter?

jbergey22 · 12-13-2019, 12:59 PM

I mean I know the media loves to tear down Cousins every chance they get but.... He has 24tds, 4 ints, 8.4 ypa, 70.1% this year. I dont think its even debatable that he is currently #2 on that list. If Luck hadnt retired and Cam wasnt injured youd bump them ahead of him but... Cousins has made 1 terrible pass this year(against Green Bay) but has been pretty much on the rest of the year.

Edward64 · 12-13-2019, 01:45 PM

So many good/great QBs in college that didn't do the same in the NFL.

View Poll Results: Which QB are you taking to lead your team? (Pick 2)
Andrew Luck	43	75.44%
RG3	13	22.81%
Ryan Tannehill	0	0%
Brandon Weeden	0	0%
Russell Wilson	23	40.35%
Nick Foles	0	0%
Kirk Cousins	1	1.75%
Ryan Lindley	0	0%
Cam Newton	6	10.53%
Jake Locker	1	1.75%
Blaine Gabbert	0	0%
Christian Ponder	0	0%
Andy Dalton	7	12.28%
Colin Kapernick	12	21.05%
Ryan Mallett	0	0%
Trout Troutman	5	8.77%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

01-15-2013, 02:53 PM	#3
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Luck/Wilson. I'd have probably taken RGIII, but I had a feeling even before the season started that durability would be a long term issue. Kaepernick is a nice player, but I am not so sure how he would do without all the weapons he already has around him. Not sure he's a "ground floor" type of player. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it. Last edited by BillJasper : 01-15-2013 at 02:55 PM.

01-15-2013, 02:56 PM	#4
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	What do you consider a young QB? You left off a ton of QBs that are younger than Brandon Weeden (age 28): Stafford, Matt Ryan, Flacco, etc). In fact, I think Aaron Rodgers and Weeden are close to the same age. You have Dalton listed, but several other QBs the same age you don't have listed: Stafford, Bradford, Freeman as examples.. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-15-2013, 02:58 PM	#7
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	It says first or second year player in the first post. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

01-15-2013, 03:09 PM	#12
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Before injury, I would have picked RGIII. But with those woes already started, it's Luck or Wilson, depending on what type of offense you want to run. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

01-15-2013, 02:44 PM	#2
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	My first thought? There is a lot of young QB talent in the league.

01-15-2013, 02:56 PM	#5
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	My list would be Luck RG3 Newton Kaepernick Wilson.

01-15-2013, 02:57 PM	#6
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Weeden being traded for Kevin Brown is a funny story.

01-15-2013, 03:03 PM	#10
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I just picked the last two drafts. Weeden does kind of screw that up age-wise. And, yeah, if I had the whole league to choose from, and I took off my Saints/Brees homer glasses, I would pick Rogers. The right mix of excellent and still young enough.

01-15-2013, 03:05 PM	#11
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Rodgers is easily 1.1 in an NFL dispersal draft

01-15-2013, 03:18 PM	#13
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Andrew Luck and Trout Troutman. If I could get the former, I wouldn't care about who I got with the latter.

01-15-2013, 03:19 PM	#14
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Also, as a 49ers fan who loves Kaepernick, if you gave Jim Harbaugh the choice of Luck or Kaepernick, I bet he goes Luck each and every time.

01-15-2013, 03:24 PM	#15
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I voted Luck followed by Kaepernick, but if I wasn't a Niner fan, I'd go Wilson since I've loved him from his time at NC State. But yes, no doubt Luck would be my first choice. If he was a completely immobile QB, I think it would be more debatable.

01-15-2013, 03:34 PM	#17
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	No one had better pick Ryan Lindley, myself included.

01-15-2013, 03:58 PM	#18
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Ryan Lindley should not pick Ryan Lindley in this poll.

12-12-2019, 11:50 AM	#19
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	dola. Hard to argue with our choices of Luck/Wilson, especially b/c Luck was not really known as injury prone. I'm surprised Cam didn't get more love. Last edited by albionmoonlight : 12-12-2019 at 11:50 AM.

12-12-2019, 11:54 AM	#20
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Yeah, this might be my least bad FOFC future take ever. I’m proud of me not picking Ryan Lindley.

12-12-2019, 01:49 PM	#21
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	It's a shame that Troutman suffered such a horrific CEI. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

12-12-2019, 01:59 PM	#22
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Not much love for Cam 7 years ago.

12-12-2019, 04:30 PM	#23
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Looks like most poll participants are out of Luck.

12-12-2019, 07:48 PM	#24
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Scary to think that, after Wilson, the best QB left on that list now might be a guy who just got the starting gig a few weeks ago. The only other guy in discussion for #2, IMO, is Cousins. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

12-12-2019, 07:49 PM	#25
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	The Jaguars chose...poorly __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

12-13-2019, 12:59 PM	#27
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	I mean I know the media loves to tear down Cousins every chance they get but.... He has 24tds, 4 ints, 8.4 ypa, 70.1% this year. I dont think its even debatable that he is currently #2 on that list. If Luck hadnt retired and Cam wasnt injured youd bump them ahead of him but... Cousins has made 1 terrible pass this year(against Green Bay) but has been pretty much on the rest of the year.

12-13-2019, 01:45 PM	#28
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	So many good/great QBs in college that didn't do the same in the NFL.

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