Werewolf XXIX: Spawn II Game Over! Post 2533 - Page 10

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

In lieu of anything else right now,

NO VOTE

I'll be back on in about 5-6 hours.

STOP NO VOTING!!!!! Anyone who no votes is going to be my top suspect...yesterdays free day was bad enough, im not about to let it happen again. WE NEED TO TRY TO KILL SPAWN!

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 01:25 PM

Completely agree with Blade here.

Bek · 07-12-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

STOP NO VOTING!!!!! Anyone who no votes is going to be my top suspect...yesterdays free day was bad enough, im not about to let it happen again. WE NEED TO TRY TO KILL SPAWN!

i agree with this statement 100%...but they are doing it because they havent got anything to go off of...no one has really been quiet and if they have then they have done a good job of hiding it and at this moment i can say that no one is really on my radar too...but we cant let the spawn get another free day....someone must be killed today

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

KWhit, there have to be better theories about who is spawn, given that I'm not one. I understand the question about being exhausted, which is why I addressed it right away.

I've gone out of my way to leave statements today for the empath to review if they are so inclined. I don't think there are many other players who have taken this step.

Fair enough, and I believe you at the moment.

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bek

no one has really been quiet

Fouts, Kingfc, and dubb have all been extremely quiet if you ask me.

Of those, i trust king a bit more then dubb and fouts, but all 3 have been relatively quiet(6-8 posts total all game)

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'll absolutely fix whatever I'm ordered to work on. If I don't have an order when I get home tonight I'll make an independent decision. But I do think we want our actions to be coordinated today, rather than each engineer repairing whatever they think is best.

That, in and of itself, is not a sure-fire test of innocence, but I agree its a start.

Some thinking out loud here.

Since he's exhausted, there is a small change that he will fail repairing, even if he is good. Therefore I propose he repairs the least crucial of today's repairs- the water plant. The other three engineers can fix the engine, and we're hunky-dory.

But here is the thing, Anxiety left the ship yesterday. There's a 10% chance he is a spawn. Therefore, he too could fake fixing, and then we wouldn't have an engine. I have no reason to believe hoops is a spawn, but a 10% reason to think anxiety is. Ergo, I really propose that anxiety fixes the water plant and the other three work on the engine.

Although then there's a still small chance that hoops fails due to exhaustion. So there's no way to be sure we're spawn/error proof. Unless all four work on the engine.

Just some musings.

-Talgian

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:30 PM

Spawnling Attack

A successful spawnling attack causes a person to become infected and (surprise) become a spawnling. A spawnling attack starts with a 70% chance of success. For each person who joins the attack, up to three, there is an additional 25% chance of success. A spawnling attack increases the chance that all spawns will become exhausted, especially those spawns who participate in a Spawnling Attack. Otherwise Spawnling attacks follow the rules for General Attacks.

Spawnlings
These are crew members who are not quite Spawn. If they are not cured in time they will become Spawn and be randomly assigned a role from the Other Spawn list (see above). Crew members might or might not know they are spawnlings, but the Hive Mind knows the identities of all spawnlings.

This sounds like what is happening to sndvls. We need to cure him stat. BEFORE we go on away missions if possible.

Barkeep, if I order the doctor to cure him, do we have to wait on bulletsponge to return before you do the cure attempt or can you do it automatically?

path12 · 07-12-2006, 01:31 PM

I agree with Blade also, we need to vote today. Also, I am waiting on orders as far as where to start repairs. If I don't hear by just before deadline I'm choosing the engines.

Coffee Warlord · 07-12-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Fouts, Kingfc, and dubb have all been extremely quiet if you ask me.

Of those, i trust king a bit more then dubb and fouts, but all 3 have been relatively quiet(6-8 posts total all game)

Didn't Fouts go on that wildly successful mining operation, though?

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Spawnling Attack

A successful spawnling attack causes a person to become infected and (surprise) become a spawnling. A spawnling attack starts with a 70% chance of success. For each person who joins the attack, up to three, there is an additional 25% chance of success. A spawnling attack increases the chance that all spawns will become exhausted, especially those spawns who participate in a Spawnling Attack. Otherwise Spawnling attacks follow the rules for General Attacks.

Spawnlings
These are crew members who are not quite Spawn. If they are not cured in time they will become Spawn and be randomly assigned a role from the Other Spawn list (see above). Crew members might or might not know they are spawnlings, but the Hive Mind knows the identities of all spawnlings.

This sounds like what is happening to sndvls. We need to cure him stat. BEFORE we go on away missions if possible.

Barkeep, if I order the doctor to cure him, do we have to wait on bulletsponge to return before you do the cure attempt or can you do it automatically?

I didnt think what happened this morning was a spawnling attack...i might be wrong though...either way bullet has a key decision to make on who to scan.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I didnt think what happened this morning was a spawnling attack...i might be wrong though...either way bullet has a key decision to make on who to scan.

I think a lot of things happened this morning. One of which was a spawnling attack.

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Didn't Fouts go on that wildly successful mining operation, though?

I believe so, though that doesnt mean much. A spawn has to actively attempt to sabotage it for it to have any effect. He could have just not submitted an order, in which case he acts just like any of us would. This theory is supported by his quiet play here-to-fore, making it more likely he just didnt try to sabotage it if bad then he must be good.

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Spawnling Attack

A successful spawnling attack causes a person to become infected and (surprise) become a spawnling. A spawnling attack starts with a 70% chance of success. For each person who joins the attack, up to three, there is an additional 25% chance of success. A spawnling attack increases the chance that all spawns will become exhausted, especially those spawns who participate in a Spawnling Attack. Otherwise Spawnling attacks follow the rules for General Attacks.

Spawnlings
These are crew members who are not quite Spawn. If they are not cured in time they will become Spawn and be randomly assigned a role from the Other Spawn list (see above). Crew members might or might not know they are spawnlings, but the Hive Mind knows the identities of all spawnlings.

This sounds like what is happening to sndvls. We need to cure him stat. BEFORE we go on away missions if possible.

Barkeep, if I order the doctor to cure him, do we have to wait on bulletsponge to return before you do the cure attempt or can you do it automatically?

Any valid order is issued immeadiately and perfomred immeadiately (if applicable). Do realize that sndvls is not wounded and so the only valid order would be to an examination.

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 01:38 PM

So, who all went on the away missions yesterday? We should look at them first of all.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Any valid order is issued immeadiately and perfomred immeadiately (if applicable). Do realize that sndvls is not wounded and so the only valid order would be to an examination.

If that order is made, you can't kill the slaves. If the slaves are alive tonight, I think we're far too vulernable.

-Talgian

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 01:40 PM

Humming a catchy tune, Coffee Warlord is seen collecting some of the Spawn creatures. He then proceeds to lock himself in his lab and makes it clear that he is now unavailable the rest of the day.

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 01:40 PM

Members of Day 1 Away Teams:

Team 1:
sndvls
Coffee Warlord
Bek
Blade
Anxiety

Team 2:
Schmidty
Fouts
Slave 1
Slave 2
Slave 3

Does this sound right?

Abe Sargent · 07-12-2006, 01:40 PM

I think there are better thigns for the doc to do, but if he wants, I'd be happy to volunteer for a scanning.

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 01:41 PM

KWhit, here is the problem with your Spawnling Attack theory:

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Spawn Queen
May launch or join a regular or Spawn attack (see Attack below) once per night cycle

My reading of the rules seems to indicate this is the only person who can launch a spawn (aka spawnling?) attack. And it is listed as a night cycle. We just saw SnDvls get gimped during the Day cycle. So I don't think this is a spawnling attack we are witnessing. Only way it could be, as I read it, is if the Overlord has the ability to allow Night actions to run during the Day.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 01:43 PM

Some more musings.

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If a Swarm Lord is in play and is not exhausted or wounded, the Swarm Lord, along with one other Spawn, may release a Swarm Attack. A Swarm is released against a living target. Swarm attacks are unlike regular attacks. If sent against someone who is healthy, they will be made Wounded. If sent against someone who is wounded or exhausted, they will be killed.

Could this have happened, in addition to the earthquake? It fits the description. The quake could have injured some, as could the swarm. Also, I have no idea what is going on with coffee. I don't see anything in either survivor or spawn secret roles that indicates anything along the lines of that.

-Talgian

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 01:43 PM

Could sndvls have been hit by the Swarm Lord?

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Swarm Lord If a Swarm Lord is in play and is not exhausted or wounded, the Swarm Lord, along with one other Spawn, may release a Swarm Attack. A Swarm is released against a living target. Swarm attacks are unlike regular attacks. If sent against someone who is healthy, they will be made Wounded. If sent against someone who is wounded or exhausted, they will be killed.

If so, is he at a higher % risk of becoming a spawn?

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Members of Day 1 Away Teams:

Team 1:
sndvls
Coffee Warlord
Bek
Blade
Anxiety

Team 2:
Schmidty
Fouts
Slave 1
Slave 2
Slave 3

Does this sound right?

I led team 1, and we don't know how many slaves were in team 2.

-Talgian

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 01:44 PM

Barkeep just clarified that SnDvls is not wounded. So I think that rules out a Swarm Attack against him.

Agree on the Warlord observation, although I haven't gone back to re-read the rules trying to figure this one out yet.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

KWhit, here is the problem with your Spawnling Attack theory:

My reading of the rules seems to indicate this is the only person who can launch a spawn (aka spawnling?) attack. And it is listed as a night cycle. We just saw SnDvls get gimped during the Day cycle. So I don't think this is a spawnling attack we are witnessing. Only way it could be, as I read it, is if the Overlord has the ability to allow Night actions to run during the Day.

I believe that the actions today were directed by the overlord. I believe that sndvls is on his way toward becoming a spawnling and we need him to plan our away missions. I think he needs to be examined.

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Could sndvls have been hit by the Swarm Lord?

If so, is he at a higher % risk of becoming a spawn?

No, not at sndvls as he is not wounded....the others, maybe...sndvls sounds like he was infected on the away mission yesterday

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:46 PM

Wasn't there a post somewhere in this thread about the ovewrlord being somehow connected to the planet itself.

That would make the earthquake fitting for an overlord attack.

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

I led team 1, and we don't know how many slaves were in team 2.

-Talgian

Post 308 says Schmidty collected three slaves:

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With the information that was collected by the party Ensign Schmidty goes down to the slave pens and finds three slaves. Along with Fouts the team takes the information gathered by Talgian's group, sndvls' plan and heads out.

I also learned that three slaves were pleased from yesterday's findings while guarding their pen last night.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 01:49 PM

More than one person got wounded in the attack. I'm not saying it has to be a swarm, but it fits the description. The swarm caused one of the injuries, and the quake/overlord caused the rest. If you were the spawn, and you know we were close to leaving today, wouldn't you throw everything at us?

-Talgian

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I also learned that three slaves were pleased from yesterday's findings while guarding their pen last night.

Wait, wha?...why would the slaves be happy we did well? They dont like us...please elaborate

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:50 PM

Talgian - I think that you should give the order for bulletsponge to examine sndvls.

That way I can keep my AP in case I need to kill the slaves.

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 01:50 PM

I hate to do this, but I want to get a vote out early today, since I will be in and out the rest of the day: Vote SnDvls

His behavior has not been strange, but it sure sounds like he could be infected.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:51 PM

Don't vote sndvls until we see if we can save him.

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 01:52 PM

Staggering to his feet sndvls asks for some water, brought to him immeadiately, and is now able to function again.

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Wait, wha?...why would the slaves be happy we did well? They dont like us...please elaborate

I overheard that three of the slaves did a good job today. Without getting too much into the language of the PM, I took that to mean that I overheard them, although looking at it now, it could mean that I overheard it from members of the team.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 01:53 PM

thank god.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:53 PM

Oh jeez.

I don't like the looks of that.

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:53 PM

well sndvls, i suppose you can talk now...better start

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Don't vote sndvls until we see if we can save him.

If he is cleared by tonight, I will move my vote off of him.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

No, not at sndvls as he is not wounded....the others, maybe...sndvls sounds like he was infected on the away mission yesterday

I didn't go on an away team

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 01:55 PM

Alright sndvls. Plan those missions! Then we can leave, come back, and get repairing. We can salvage this yet.

KWhit, I didn't issue the order right away because I didn't want to make it impossible for me to lead a mission.

-Talgian

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

ok question..need some fast answers.

who is the most important person to clear right now? bulletsponge?
is it more important to clear him or heal the wounded?

reposting this...would like some input ASAP!

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I didn't go on an away team

That just makes it all the more likely you were infected by the spawn then...unless you have some other reason you collapse with no wounds and need water

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 01:56 PM

hold off on the orders until I get some answers to my question.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

Alright sndvls. Plan those missions! Then we can leave, come back, and get repairing. We can salvage this yet.

I don't want him planning anything unless he's cleared.

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

reposting this...would like some input ASAP!

How can we clear bullet, he is the doctor?

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

That just makes it all the more likely you were infected by the spawn then...unless you have some other reason you collapse with no wounds and need water

sure do I was overcome with a major head pain that caused me to go unconsicious and unalbe to do anything for an hour.

look at my post times and you'll see that, you'll also notice I was still in the thread for the time as well.

Abe Sargent · 07-12-2006, 01:58 PM

Sndvls

Engineers will get more and more valuable as time goes along, but I'd say don't wrry about us today. If you want, though, since I'm the only engineer to go out yesterday, you can scan me.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

hold off on the orders until I get some answers to my question.

Most important to clear right now are:
1) sndvls
2) bullet.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

How can we clear bullet, he is the doctor?

just answer the damn question will you? is he the most important person to clear today?

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Sndvls

Engineers will get more and more valuable as time goes along, but I'd say don't wrry about us today. If you want, though, since I'm the only engineer to go out yesterday, you can scan me.

I find it odd that you would keep asking to be scanned. You are way down the list of important people who need a scanning.

07-12-2006, 01:31 PM	#458
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I agree with Blade also, we need to vote today. Also, I am waiting on orders as far as where to start repairs. If I don't hear by just before deadline I'm choosing the engines. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-12-2006, 01:38 PM	#464
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	So, who all went on the away missions yesterday? We should look at them first of all. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-12-2006, 01:40 PM	#467
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Members of Day 1 Away Teams: Team 1: sndvls Coffee Warlord Bek Blade Anxiety Team 2: Schmidty Fouts Slave 1 Slave 2 Slave 3 Does this sound right? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-12-2006, 01:40 PM	#468
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I think there are better thigns for the doc to do, but if he wants, I'd be happy to volunteer for a scanning. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-12-2006, 01:50 PM	#481
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I hate to do this, but I want to get a vote out early today, since I will be in and out the rest of the day: Vote SnDvls His behavior has not been strange, but it sure sounds like he could be infected. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-12-2006, 01:25 PM	#452
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Completely agree with Blade here.

07-12-2006, 01:30 PM	#457
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Spawnling Attack A successful spawnling attack causes a person to become infected and (surprise) become a spawnling. A spawnling attack starts with a 70% chance of success. For each person who joins the attack, up to three, there is an additional 25% chance of success. A spawnling attack increases the chance that all spawns will become exhausted, especially those spawns who participate in a Spawnling Attack. Otherwise Spawnling attacks follow the rules for General Attacks. Spawnlings These are crew members who are not quite Spawn. If they are not cured in time they will become Spawn and be randomly assigned a role from the Other Spawn list (see above). Crew members might or might not know they are spawnlings, but the Hive Mind knows the identities of all spawnlings. This sounds like what is happening to sndvls. We need to cure him stat. BEFORE we go on away missions if possible. Barkeep, if I order the doctor to cure him, do we have to wait on bulletsponge to return before you do the cure attempt or can you do it automatically?

07-12-2006, 01:40 PM	#466
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Humming a catchy tune, Coffee Warlord is seen collecting some of the Spawn creatures. He then proceeds to lock himself in his lab and makes it clear that he is now unavailable the rest of the day.

07-12-2006, 01:44 PM	#473
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Barkeep just clarified that SnDvls is not wounded. So I think that rules out a Swarm Attack against him. Agree on the Warlord observation, although I haven't gone back to re-read the rules trying to figure this one out yet.

07-12-2006, 01:46 PM	#476
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Wasn't there a post somewhere in this thread about the ovewrlord being somehow connected to the planet itself. That would make the earthquake fitting for an overlord attack.

07-12-2006, 01:49 PM	#478
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	More than one person got wounded in the attack. I'm not saying it has to be a swarm, but it fits the description. The swarm caused one of the injuries, and the quake/overlord caused the rest. If you were the spawn, and you know we were close to leaving today, wouldn't you throw everything at us? -Talgian

07-12-2006, 01:50 PM	#480
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Talgian - I think that you should give the order for bulletsponge to examine sndvls. That way I can keep my AP in case I need to kill the slaves.

07-12-2006, 01:51 PM	#482
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Don't vote sndvls until we see if we can save him.

07-12-2006, 01:52 PM	#483
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Staggering to his feet sndvls asks for some water, brought to him immeadiately, and is now able to function again.

07-12-2006, 01:53 PM	#485
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	thank god.

07-12-2006, 01:53 PM	#486
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Oh jeez. I don't like the looks of that.

07-12-2006, 01:53 PM	#487
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	well sndvls, i suppose you can talk now...better start __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

07-12-2006, 01:55 PM	#490
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	Alright sndvls. Plan those missions! Then we can leave, come back, and get repairing. We can salvage this yet. KWhit, I didn't issue the order right away because I didn't want to make it impossible for me to lead a mission. -Talgian

07-12-2006, 01:56 PM	#493
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	hold off on the orders until I get some answers to my question.

07-12-2006, 01:58 PM	#497
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Sndvls Engineers will get more and more valuable as time goes along, but I'd say don't wrry about us today. If you want, though, since I'm the only engineer to go out yesterday, you can scan me. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

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