Werewolf XXIX: Spawn II Game Over! Post 2533 - Page 12

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

then are you saying I just infected the dr.?
what role would allow me to do that?
better yet, what role would allow me to just pull him in to sick bay? not my 1st officer role.

I think you are the duplicant secret role like you claimed, but infected none the less...it makes sense to me

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

generally in most games it's put into place to keep everyone from starting the game saying

"I"m good, I'm not a spawn"

and then the empathat can just use those and see who's good or not.

I'll say it all day if it will work

I'm good and I'm not a spawn

Ah. Okay. That makes sense.

My WW is rusty.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 02:27 PM

Wait, guys, what are we saying? Sndvls is good...for now.

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Duplicant May take on the duties of any public role, except Officers, once per game for a single Day or Night cycle. This person will gain the additional AP associated with that role, but the AP may only be spent on the abilities associated with that role. Unless it is necessary to mention publicly, no one will know who the Duplicant is or what they did.

Every role that may keep it when they become spawn says so in the description of that role. Since duplicant does not, if he used it, he's not a spawn yet.

-Talgian

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 02:28 PM

Out of the blue sndvls is stricken once again. He falls to the floor briefly and is able to stand right up again, but is not quite the same.

I apologize. I made a mistake before in which power was used. SnDvls should never have been prevented from talking for that hour. This is as good of a time as any to point out that with so many moving parts I will make mistakes from time to time, though I do my best to avoid them.

Bek · 07-12-2006, 02:29 PM

are you silenced this time???

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bek

are you silenced this time???

nope no PM on it

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 02:34 PM

It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:35 PM

What the hell is going on?

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties

Defend this sndvls

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:35 PM

I think that sndvls is a spawnling.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 02:36 PM

Well then. It would seem that sndvls is a spawn. I'm not sure what this means about bullet. But I think we should lynch sndvls and go unplanned for today :/

-Talgian

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 02:36 PM

I think he may not even know it yet.

Bek · 07-12-2006, 02:36 PM

i think after re-reading what i need too...we need to concentrate on whether we think sndvls is clean or not and then we need to move onto the away missions and what we are doing there, as getting the cyrstilium(spl) and getting off the planet is looking better and better as more time passes...and sndvls, take some tylenol...

Abe Sargent · 07-12-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Defend this sndvls

All it means is that a spawn might have zapped him and prevented him from doign anything today, instead of being silenced for an hour.

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 02:37 PM

OK, if we trust that SnDvls did in fact use the duplicant ability - and didn't fake it - then we are starting to get a nice circle of trust rolling.

I'm probably not going to be able to look in again between now and 7PM CST - depends on my customer - so if someone wants to isue me a repair order to make sure it goes in that would be just fine with me. If not, I'll get it in upon arriving home from work tonight.

I'm also glad to see that Fouts is vouching for Coffee Warlord's action here - I strongly doubt that both of the scientists are spawn.

Schmidty · 07-12-2006, 02:38 PM

I'm back, and it's looking really bad for SnDvls.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Defend this sndvls

I think BK defended it...it was an error on his part nothing to defend really

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties

Doesn't this mean that sndvls should not have been able to use the duplicant ability? If he had it, but couldn't use it, that means he lost it due to being spawn. Please correct me if I'm reading the rules wrong.

-Talgian

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:39 PM

This is important info for me:

Do we think sndvls is a spawn or a spawnling?

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 02:39 PM

Ignoring the commotion over the First Officer, Fouts nebbishly collects some of the creatures who attacks and adjourns to his own lab. The door is locked and a sign says "KEEP OUT! IMPORTANT WORK IN PROGRESS

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I think BK defended it...it was an error on his part nothing to defend really

He basically said you were no longer able to use your power...im asking you if you can explain head pains, "seeming different", and loss of powers in any way but spawn

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

All it means is that a spawn might have zapped him and prevented him from doign anything today, instead of being silenced for an hour.

And where is this in the rules? Thats seems rather far fetched to me

Bek · 07-12-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ignoring the commotion over the First Officer, Fouts nebbishly collects some of the creatures who attacks and adjourns to his own lab. The door is locked and a sign says "KEEP OUT! IMPORTANT WORK IN PROGRESS

What is with everyone taking parts and going into their lab???...is there something that im missing???

Abe Sargent · 07-12-2006, 02:41 PM

Blade, in the rules, there is a spawn attack that prevents someone from using their abilities.

Schmidty · 07-12-2006, 02:42 PM

I just checked something, and I am positive that SnDvls believes COMPLETELY that what he said regarding bullet being clean is 100% true; however, I suppose that still means that he doesn't know he's been infected.

At least we now know that he isn't a Spawn yet.

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Blade, in the rules, there is a spawn attack that prevents someone from using their abilities.

where?

Abe Sargent · 07-12-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

And where is this in the rules? Thats seems rather far fetched to me

Mind Leech

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I just checked something, and I am positive that SnDvls believes COMPLETELY that what he said regarding bullet being clean is 100% true; however, I suppose that still means that he doesn't know he's been infected.

At least we now know that he isn't a Spawn yet.

You scanned that???????????????????????????

We all agree for the most part bullet is good, so a spawn would believe it 100% becuase he knows who is good and bad...that means NOTHING to us about sndvls being good or bad

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 02:44 PM

KWhit, if you are asking if someone should take an action to test SnDvls here, then I think the answer is yes. The circles of trust are not as strong in a game with conversions, but we'll be on our way to forming one if SnDvls is in fact still on our side.

If there is an empath thinking of testing him, perhaps "I'm not a spawn, spawnling, or in any way aligned with the spawn" would be a better statement than I'm not a spawn since a spawnling could come back as "True" with a statement of "I'm not a spawn".

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Mind Leech

Sndvls was not exhausted, and therefore i dont think mind leech is possible. Mind leech makes both players exhuasted

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 02:45 PM

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Mind Leech Instead of an attack, if the Mind Leech is not exhausted (see Status Exhausted below) at night, he may rob a player of their ability to use abilities and actions. Passive abilities (like Resistant) are automatically negated. If the player tries to use an Active ability there is a 40% chance that the ability will be negated. Both involved players become "Exhausted" in any case.

Another one that is a Night action event

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Another one that is a Night action event

read my posts a few up, not possible since both become exhausted and i dont see sndvls as status exhausted(do mind pains=exhausted? if so, then you are the only other person exhausted who makes sense to mind leech him)

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:47 PM

I have good reason to believe that we need sndvls today if possible. Hopefully he can help plan a little mission I have in mind.

I order bulletsponge to examine sndvls.

Schmidty · 07-12-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

You scanned that???????????????????????????

We all agree for the most part bullet is good, so a spawn would believe it 100% becuase he knows who is good and bad...that means NOTHING to us about sndvls being good or bad

No need to be a spazz.

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:47 PM

I have to go, sadly, prob, for the whole day. My vote in on sndvls, and i hope you all follow. Have a good day mates, cheers

Blade6119 · 07-12-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I have good reason to believe that we need sndvls today if possible. Hopefully he can help plan a little mission I have in mind.

I order bulletsponge to examine sndvls.

..............

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 02:50 PM

Friendly reminder that all actions, except voting and lift-off, must be PM'ed to me in order to be in effect.

Swaggs · 07-12-2006, 02:50 PM

I am out until later on this evening. In all likelihood, I will be checking back in before the voting deadline.

Right now, I don't see any reason to remove my vote from sndvls.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 02:51 PM

Guys, I think this is relatively clear. BK has said he shouldn't have been able to use the duplicant power. He wasn't exhausted, so the only thing that would have prevented him doing this is if he was (or is becoming) spawn. He may be becoming a spawnling now, or he could be an unaware spawn.

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Unaware Spawn During the day, is unaware of being a Spawn (and may not communicate with other Spawn), but will not seem to be a Spawn when tested by other players. At night, assumes normal Spawn powers.

Either way, I don't think he's one of the good guys. The doctor should examine him. That being said, he needs to plan our missions and send us on our way. According to the rules, he can only fake this. He can't sabotage, he just send us on the equivalent of an unplanned mission. Since we need to go out today anyway, I say he plans the missions. Best case scenario, we get two planned missions. Worst case, we get two unplanned. I'd personally say both should be crystal missions. Any other thoughts?

-Talgian

Abe Sargent · 07-12-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Sndvls was not exhausted, and therefore i dont think mind leech is possible. Mind leech makes both players exhuasted

He wasn't, who knows about now?

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 02:53 PM

Captain don't send the PM. more in a minute.

-Talgian

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

Guys, I think this is relatively clear. BK has said he shouldn't have been able to use the duplicant power. He wasn't exhausted, so the only thing that would have prevented him doing this is if he was (or is becoming) spawn. He may be becoming a spawnling now, or he could be an unaware spawn.

Either way, I don't think he's one of the good guys. The doctor should examine him. That being said, he needs to plan our missions and send us on our way. According to the rules, he can only fake this. He can't sabotage, he just send us on the equivalent of an unplanned mission. Since we need to go out today anyway, I say he plans the missions. Best case scenario, we get two planned missions. Worst case, we get two unplanned. I'd personally say both should be crystal missions. Any other thoughts?

-Talgian

Let's wait until we hear how the exam goes. Then I may have more to share.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

Captain don't send the PM. more in a minute.

-Talgian

Too late.

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 02:54 PM

Not sure if it effected anyone but my box was full for about a minute. I just deleted 20 messages so there is once again plenty of space.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 02:55 PM

I'm all for scanning sndvls. I don't think he's one of the good guys. However, wasting an action point is not a good idea. We won't know the results of the scan until bullet logs on. By the time bullet logs on and is read up, he should know he pretty much has to scan sndvls, or we'll all assume he's spawn. Plus, there is reason to believe he may be unaware. So he's worth scanning, but not worth wasting an action.

-Talgian

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Too late.

Oh well. Let's just hope they don't go for the slaves tonight.

-Talgian

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 02:58 PM

The Captain has decided that it is time to act. "Doctor Bulletsponge," the young captain begins in his best authorative voice, "I want you to scan First Officer SnDvls. Consider it an order. That is all for now."

The two men, after being ordered, go into sickbay and come out a bit later.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

I'm all for scanning sndvls. I don't think he's one of the good guys. However, wasting an action point is not a good idea. We won't know the results of the scan until bullet logs on. By the time bullet logs on and is read up, he should know he pretty much has to scan sndvls, or we'll all assume he's spawn. Plus, there is reason to believe he may be unaware. So he's worth scanning, but not worth wasting an action.

-Talgian

Not true. We find out immediately.

KWhit · 07-12-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Not true. We find out immediately.

At least I thought that's what BK said...

Hmmm....

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 03:00 PM

Bullet gets to give us the result of the scan. He can say whatever he wants about how it went. That's why I don't think we find out the results until he logs on and tells us.

-Talgian

07-12-2006, 02:36 PM	#562
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I think he may not even know it yet. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-12-2006, 02:41 PM	#574
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Blade, in the rules, there is a spawn attack that prevents someone from using their abilities. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-12-2006, 02:47 PM	#585
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I have to go, sadly, prob, for the whole day. My vote in on sndvls, and i hope you all follow. Have a good day mates, cheers __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

07-12-2006, 02:50 PM	#588
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I am out until later on this evening. In all likelihood, I will be checking back in before the voting deadline. Right now, I don't see any reason to remove my vote from sndvls. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-12-2006, 02:28 PM	#554
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Out of the blue sndvls is stricken once again. He falls to the floor briefly and is able to stand right up again, but is not quite the same. I apologize. I made a mistake before in which power was used. SnDvls should never have been prevented from talking for that hour. This is as good of a time as any to point out that with so many moving parts I will make mistakes from time to time, though I do my best to avoid them.

07-12-2006, 02:29 PM	#555
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	are you silenced this time???

07-12-2006, 02:34 PM	#557
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties

07-12-2006, 02:35 PM	#558
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	What the hell is going on?

07-12-2006, 02:35 PM	#560
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I think that sndvls is a spawnling.

07-12-2006, 02:36 PM	#561
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	Well then. It would seem that sndvls is a spawn. I'm not sure what this means about bullet. But I think we should lynch sndvls and go unplanned for today :/ -Talgian

07-12-2006, 02:36 PM	#563
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	i think after re-reading what i need too...we need to concentrate on whether we think sndvls is clean or not and then we need to move onto the away missions and what we are doing there, as getting the cyrstilium(spl) and getting off the planet is looking better and better as more time passes...and sndvls, take some tylenol...

07-12-2006, 02:37 PM	#565
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, if we trust that SnDvls did in fact use the duplicant ability - and didn't fake it - then we are starting to get a nice circle of trust rolling. I'm probably not going to be able to look in again between now and 7PM CST - depends on my customer - so if someone wants to isue me a repair order to make sure it goes in that would be just fine with me. If not, I'll get it in upon arriving home from work tonight. I'm also glad to see that Fouts is vouching for Coffee Warlord's action here - I strongly doubt that both of the scientists are spawn.

07-12-2006, 02:38 PM	#566
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I'm back, and it's looking really bad for SnDvls.

07-12-2006, 02:39 PM	#569
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	This is important info for me: Do we think sndvls is a spawn or a spawnling?

07-12-2006, 02:39 PM	#570
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ignoring the commotion over the First Officer, Fouts nebbishly collects some of the creatures who attacks and adjourns to his own lab. The door is locked and a sign says "KEEP OUT! IMPORTANT WORK IN PROGRESS

07-12-2006, 02:42 PM	#575
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I just checked something, and I am positive that SnDvls believes COMPLETELY that what he said regarding bullet being clean is 100% true; however, I suppose that still means that he doesn't know he's been infected. At least we now know that he isn't a Spawn yet.

07-12-2006, 02:44 PM	#579
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	KWhit, if you are asking if someone should take an action to test SnDvls here, then I think the answer is yes. The circles of trust are not as strong in a game with conversions, but we'll be on our way to forming one if SnDvls is in fact still on our side. If there is an empath thinking of testing him, perhaps "I'm not a spawn, spawnling, or in any way aligned with the spawn" would be a better statement than I'm not a spawn since a spawnling could come back as "True" with a statement of "I'm not a spawn".

07-12-2006, 02:47 PM	#583
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I have good reason to believe that we need sndvls today if possible. Hopefully he can help plan a little mission I have in mind. I order bulletsponge to examine sndvls.

07-12-2006, 02:50 PM	#587
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Friendly reminder that all actions, except voting and lift-off, must be PM'ed to me in order to be in effect.

07-12-2006, 02:53 PM	#591
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	Captain don't send the PM. more in a minute. -Talgian

07-12-2006, 02:54 PM	#594
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Not sure if it effected anyone but my box was full for about a minute. I just deleted 20 messages so there is once again plenty of space.

07-12-2006, 02:55 PM	#595
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	I'm all for scanning sndvls. I don't think he's one of the good guys. However, wasting an action point is not a good idea. We won't know the results of the scan until bullet logs on. By the time bullet logs on and is read up, he should know he pretty much has to scan sndvls, or we'll all assume he's spawn. Plus, there is reason to believe he may be unaware. So he's worth scanning, but not worth wasting an action. -Talgian

07-12-2006, 02:58 PM	#597
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	The Captain has decided that it is time to act. "Doctor Bulletsponge," the young captain begins in his best authorative voice, "I want you to scan First Officer SnDvls. Consider it an order. That is all for now." The two men, after being ordered, go into sickbay and come out a bit later.

07-12-2006, 03:00 PM	#600
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	Bullet gets to give us the result of the scan. He can say whatever he wants about how it went. That's why I don't think we find out the results until he logs on and tells us. -Talgian

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