Werewolf XXIX: Spawn II Game Over! Post 2533 - Page 16

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 08:37 PM

Fouts, if we take it as point of fact, then this should make the three wounded guys trusted - this has not been mentioned yet by anyone in the last ten hours. So I'm not just putting it out there as an extreme scenario.

In terms of the fake wound, Vince did it last game near the end. And the rules do allow for it. So I would argue it isn't that extreme.

I've got your vote for today, and if it makes you feel better about it to think I'm angle shooting here then so be it.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:39 PM

thinking out loud here.

Swaggs, RA & Qwik were all wounded from the day attack.

Swaggs took the biggest hit, my assumption is they are trying to free the slaves, some of whom could be infected from the day 1 mission.

RA & Qwik were both by the cargo hold.

Qwik is an engineer and there were several damaged areas that need fixin' so I can see the attack on him.

Why attack RA? He protects the cargo area.

of the three RA & Swaggs will be less able to defend tonight due to being wounded. I would guess that of the three these two probally are okay.

Bek · 07-12-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Dola, for the record I'm not thrilled with voting Blade, but does anyone think we can get 7 votes on anybody else?

i hate to throw this in there now, but i think we are really looking at the wrong people, we have three people cleared, cw, sndvls, and bullet. I think blade was looking at the coloring of the sndvl incident and got caught up in that...what we really should be looking at is the first away mission, by the sounds of things it went poorly, and the people on that list :cw, me, blade, anxiety, and Talgian; from that list my biggest suspect is Talgian. He was the leader of the away mission, pushed for me or blade, both of us being privates to be scanned, which i would say is a useless scan as we hold no power, and once the accusitions started flying he has been lying low, trying to fly under the radar...he is the first blip on my radar so tell me if im wrong but i think Talgian is someone we should be keeping an eye on...

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 08:41 PM

I think that Qwikshot is the guy who is wounded who doesn't make sense, if the attacks were in fact selected by the spawn instead of random number generated.

Swaggs - controls the slaves, who collectively seem to be a wildcard
Raiders - controls the water
Both of these guys can guard

Qwikshot - less tactical value as one of four engineers

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:42 PM

should also add to my post that both RA & Swaggs were exhaused from night actions so makes them even vunurable tonight.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I think that Qwikshot is the guy who is wounded who doesn't make sense, if the attacks were in fact selected by the spawn instead of random number generated.

my thoughts too.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:44 PM

what engineers worked today on fixing stuff?

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:44 PM

I would remember, but I was a little caught up today in other events

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 08:45 PM

I believe all of the engineers worked on stuff today. I'll see if I can pull up the posts.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:45 PM

did we ever determine if the phasers are still in the hands of the people there were in last night?

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I believe all of the engineers worked on stuff today. I'll see if I can pull up the posts.

any results on stuff being fixed?

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:46 PM

dola - don't remember BK saying yes so my thinking is either no or he hasn't updated us on that yet.

kingfc22 · 07-12-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

did we ever determine if the phasers are still in the hands of the people there were in last night?

I thought I read that they go back in the security HQ after the night phase.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:47 PM

Fouts - any info you care to share about the spawnling leftovers you picked up you wish to share?

kingfc22 · 07-12-2006, 08:48 PM

BTW, last night was very uneventful as I stood in front guarding the water plant.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

I thought I read that they go back in the security HQ after the night phase.

but it was damaged at night so I thought that the phasers that were handed out get to stay out with the people that got them.

path12 · 07-12-2006, 08:48 PM

I worked on the engines. I recieved no message of results.

kingfc22 · 07-12-2006, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

Fouts - any info you care to share about the spawnling leftovers you picked up you wish to share?

Same question to CW.

kingfc22 · 07-12-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

but it was damaged at night so I thought that the phasers that were handed out get to stay out with the people that got them.

I thought it was damaged this morning when all hell broke loose.

path12 · 07-12-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bek

from that list my biggest suspect is Talgian. He was the leader of the away mission, pushed for me or blade, both of us being privates to be scanned, which i would say is a useless scan as we hold no power, and once the accusitions started flying he has been lying low, trying to fly under the radar...he is the first blip on my radar so tell me if im wrong but i think Talgian is someone we should be keeping an eye on...

I don't think you're wrong at all. Don't know if you're right, but I could toss a vote that way.

kingfc22 · 07-12-2006, 08:50 PM

We still need to get to 7 votes if we want to lynch.

Right now, I'm kind of weery of blade since he pushed for sndvls so hard. Also, Talgian and his away mission leave some question marks.

Maybe the spawn noticed that we were going to resend out the same missions and that is why they went after Sndvls.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Before there can be too much discussion, Sergeant-at-Arms dubb alerts Tyrith, Raiders Army, Swaggs, KingFC22, and Chubby that they should all stop by the Security HQ to pick up their phasers before they adjourn for the night.

these people shoud all still have phasers...the one that sticks out as a question mark to me is Tyrith.

why give him a phaser if he hadn't been on all day?

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 08:51 PM

Anxiety - Post #627, repairing engine room
Path - Post #642, repairing engine room
Hoopsguy - Post #676, water plant (per Talgian's order)

Qwik said in Post #658 that he would be working on the engines, but I did not see any post by Barkeep showing this action. Qwik also said he was out for the night in that post.

kingfc22 · 07-12-2006, 08:51 PM

Vote TAGLIAN

Let's see where this goes.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

I thought it was damaged this morning when all hell broke loose.

you are correct...ignore my phasers post above.

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 08:52 PM

Add me to the list interested in finding out what Fouts may have learned from the spawn remains. Coffee didn't have much info when he posted on this earlier today.

path12 · 07-12-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rules

Sergeant-at-Arms (1 AP per cycle)

Distribute Weapons Day Only He may hand out firearms to any player. These players are now "Armed" and get a pre-emptive attack when attacking or defending that night. Firearms are collected in the morning. If the Security room is damaged, those that are "Armed" hold onto their firearms. 1 AP

Doesn't look to me like the phasers are available.

path12 · 07-12-2006, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Anxiety - Post #627, repairing engine room
Path - Post #642, repairing engine room
Hoopsguy - Post #676, water plant (per Talgian's order)

Qwik said in Post #658 that he would be working on the engines, but I did not see any post by Barkeep showing this action. Qwik also said he was out for the night in that post.

Qwik was wounded, right? I'd think that would preclude him from actions.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 08:55 PM

In my defense, I'd like to post my very first post during the actual game. This was before the first away mission.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talgian

Hey guys, just read over the thread. First off, I think it'd be a good idea to promote a privtate, say, Bek, to security crewman. That way we have an extra protect, and it's not like privates do a whole lot :P.

I heavily repeated that strategy until today, when it was pointed out that we wouldn't get the extra security day 3, when it would already be too late.

-Talgian

path12 · 07-12-2006, 08:55 PM

Unvote Tyrith
Vote Talgian

I can go with this for now. Dinner in a couple minutes, hope to be back before lynch.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 08:57 PM

Just in case the empath wants something to test, should they choose, I'll say I'm good and not a spawn.

-Talgian

path12 · 07-12-2006, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talgian

In my defense, I'd like to post my very first post during the actual game. This was before the first away mission.

I heavily repeated that strategy until today, when it was pointed out that we wouldn't get the extra security day 3, when it would already be too late.

-Talgian

FWIW, that's not really in the reasoning for my vote. I'm more interested that you a) led the away mission, b) really dropped under the radar for awhile and c) I don't really have anything better to go on at the moment.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:58 PM

I honestly thing talgian has been helpful in both days 1 & 2 and feel he is the wrong way to go.

I'd be open to many other options though.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 08:59 PM

Barkeep - when do we get reports on what was/wasn't fixed?

Schmidty · 07-12-2006, 08:59 PM

The one guy who looks really iffy to me that no one has talked about, is dubb. He is usually at least moderately active as far as posts, and his choice of Tyrith (who is non-existent) is very odd.

I'm sticking with Blade for now, but I wanted to get that thought out there.

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 08:59 PM

The phasers were collected this morning and returned to the undamaged Security HQ. The Security HQ is now damaged and so no one, except Tyrith, who as Security Chief always has a phaser, has a phaser. And since there is more damage to the Security HQ then can now be fixed by the end of this cycle there will be no phasers tonight.

Barkeep49 · 07-12-2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

Barkeep - when do we get reports on what was/wasn't fixed?

You will get a status report with the end of the day cycle so in about 30 minutes. Give or take a few.

hoopsguy · 07-12-2006, 09:00 PM

Well, here is what I'm showing for votes as people want to consider votes (as of Post #784):

SnDvls - Swaggs (481), Blade (504)
Blade - SnDvls (617), Schmidty (718), Anxiety (721)
Raiders - Bullet (706), Hoops (712), Dubb (733)
Hoops - Fouts (709)
Dubb - Raiders (723)
Talgian - King (774), Path (780)

Raiders Army · 07-12-2006, 09:00 PM

I have no idea who's a bad guy. Not even an inkling. I just know that I'm not a spawn. I'd be willing to shift my vote to someone else. My vote for dubb was a shot in the dark (although calculated).

Schmidty · 07-12-2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

The phasers were collected this morning and returned to the undamaged Security HQ. The Security HQ is now damaged and so no one, except Tyrith, who as Security Chief always has a phaser, has a phaser. And since there is more damage to the Security HQ then can now be fixed by the end of this cycle there will be no phasers tonight.

Ah ok, that makes sense

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 09:01 PM

I think of the active people Blade has been the least helpful
you can then add in the inactive people just after him.

Raiders Army · 07-12-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

I think of the active people Blade has been the least helpful
you can then add in the inactive people just after him.

LOL. That's his MO.

Schmidty · 07-12-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Unvote Tyrith
Vote Talgian

I can go with this for now. Dinner in a couple minutes, hope to be back before lynch.

I AM NOT POSITIVE, but I think this vote is a waste.

This is all I will say.

Schmidty · 07-12-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

LOL. That's his MO.

BUT HE TALKS A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- to Blade.

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I AM NOT POSITIVE, but I think this vote is a waste.

This is all I will say.

I agree

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

BUT HE TALKS A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- to Blade.

no comment

Raiders Army · 07-12-2006, 09:04 PM

Well, voting for dubb serves no purpose.

UNVOTE DUBB
VOTE BLADE

In the long run, I think his negatives outweigh his positives as he can confuse the game. I think that even if he's not a spawn this is a good place to start.

Talgian · 07-12-2006, 09:05 PM

See, I'm in a bind now. I don't know who to vote for, and now that I'm a suspect, whoever I vote for needs to be spawn, or else it'll look like I'm trying to kill an innocent. If I abstain, that's just as bad. We really have almost no evidence to go on here. It's possible sndvls is an unaware spawn, but it seems more like the overlord was just messing with his head. So I'm going to keep reading until I figure out what to do in that arena.

I like to think I've been pretty honest and forthright in this game so far, suggesting strategies when they seemed prudent. I tried to stop the captain from making a stupid mistake, I posted about guarding the essential areas, I made sure we would be on the way to having enough water.

The only person who has played with me before is path12, who was on my team in a BGG To Crown a King game. I was a straight shooter there, and I'm surprised you don't recognize the same style here.

-Talgian

SnDvls · 07-12-2006, 09:06 PM

I can't be a spawn unless bullet is a lier?

kingfc22 · 07-12-2006, 09:06 PM

UNVOTE TAGLAIN
VOTE BLADE

Still iffy on him since he was on the first away mission and would have been on this one if the spawn hadn't prevented us from doing so today. However, he is not likely to get lynched and Blade was my #2 guy.

07-12-2006, 08:48 PM	#765
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	BTW, last night was very uneventful as I stood in front guarding the water plant. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-12-2006, 08:48 PM	#767
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I worked on the engines. I recieved no message of results. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-12-2006, 08:50 PM	#771
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	We still need to get to 7 votes if we want to lynch. Right now, I'm kind of weery of blade since he pushed for sndvls so hard. Also, Talgian and his away mission leave some question marks. Maybe the spawn noticed that we were going to resend out the same missions and that is why they went after Sndvls. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-12-2006, 08:51 PM	#774
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Vote TAGLIAN Let's see where this goes. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-12-2006, 08:55 PM	#780
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Unvote Tyrith Vote Talgian I can go with this for now. Dinner in a couple minutes, hope to be back before lynch. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-12-2006, 08:37 PM	#751
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Fouts, if we take it as point of fact, then this should make the three wounded guys trusted - this has not been mentioned yet by anyone in the last ten hours. So I'm not just putting it out there as an extreme scenario. In terms of the fake wound, Vince did it last game near the end. And the rules do allow for it. So I would argue it isn't that extreme. I've got your vote for today, and if it makes you feel better about it to think I'm angle shooting here then so be it.

07-12-2006, 08:39 PM	#752
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	thinking out loud here. Swaggs, RA & Qwik were all wounded from the day attack. Swaggs took the biggest hit, my assumption is they are trying to free the slaves, some of whom could be infected from the day 1 mission. RA & Qwik were both by the cargo hold. Qwik is an engineer and there were several damaged areas that need fixin' so I can see the attack on him. Why attack RA? He protects the cargo area. of the three RA & Swaggs will be less able to defend tonight due to being wounded. I would guess that of the three these two probally are okay.

07-12-2006, 08:41 PM	#754
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I think that Qwikshot is the guy who is wounded who doesn't make sense, if the attacks were in fact selected by the spawn instead of random number generated. Swaggs - controls the slaves, who collectively seem to be a wildcard Raiders - controls the water Both of these guys can guard Qwikshot - less tactical value as one of four engineers

07-12-2006, 08:42 PM	#755
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	should also add to my post that both RA & Swaggs were exhaused from night actions so makes them even vunurable tonight.

07-12-2006, 08:44 PM	#757
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	what engineers worked today on fixing stuff?

07-12-2006, 08:44 PM	#758
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I would remember, but I was a little caught up today in other events

07-12-2006, 08:45 PM	#759
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I believe all of the engineers worked on stuff today. I'll see if I can pull up the posts.

07-12-2006, 08:45 PM	#760
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	did we ever determine if the phasers are still in the hands of the people there were in last night?

07-12-2006, 08:46 PM	#762
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	dola - don't remember BK saying yes so my thinking is either no or he hasn't updated us on that yet.

07-12-2006, 08:47 PM	#764
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	Fouts - any info you care to share about the spawnling leftovers you picked up you wish to share?

07-12-2006, 08:51 PM	#773
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Anxiety - Post #627, repairing engine room Path - Post #642, repairing engine room Hoopsguy - Post #676, water plant (per Talgian's order) Qwik said in Post #658 that he would be working on the engines, but I did not see any post by Barkeep showing this action. Qwik also said he was out for the night in that post.

07-12-2006, 08:52 PM	#776
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Add me to the list interested in finding out what Fouts may have learned from the spawn remains. Coffee didn't have much info when he posted on this earlier today.

07-12-2006, 08:57 PM	#781
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	Just in case the empath wants something to test, should they choose, I'll say I'm good and not a spawn. -Talgian

07-12-2006, 08:58 PM	#783
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I honestly thing talgian has been helpful in both days 1 & 2 and feel he is the wrong way to go. I'd be open to many other options though.

07-12-2006, 08:59 PM	#784
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	Barkeep - when do we get reports on what was/wasn't fixed?

07-12-2006, 08:59 PM	#785
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	The one guy who looks really iffy to me that no one has talked about, is dubb. He is usually at least moderately active as far as posts, and his choice of Tyrith (who is non-existent) is very odd. I'm sticking with Blade for now, but I wanted to get that thought out there.

07-12-2006, 08:59 PM	#786
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	The phasers were collected this morning and returned to the undamaged Security HQ. The Security HQ is now damaged and so no one, except Tyrith, who as Security Chief always has a phaser, has a phaser. And since there is more damage to the Security HQ then can now be fixed by the end of this cycle there will be no phasers tonight.

07-12-2006, 09:00 PM	#788
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Well, here is what I'm showing for votes as people want to consider votes (as of Post #784): SnDvls - Swaggs (481), Blade (504) Blade - SnDvls (617), Schmidty (718), Anxiety (721) Raiders - Bullet (706), Hoops (712), Dubb (733) Hoops - Fouts (709) Dubb - Raiders (723) Talgian - King (774), Path (780)

07-12-2006, 09:00 PM	#789
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I have no idea who's a bad guy. Not even an inkling. I just know that I'm not a spawn. I'd be willing to shift my vote to someone else. My vote for dubb was a shot in the dark (although calculated).

07-12-2006, 09:01 PM	#791
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I think of the active people Blade has been the least helpful you can then add in the inactive people just after him.

07-12-2006, 09:04 PM	#797
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Well, voting for dubb serves no purpose. UNVOTE DUBB VOTE BLADE In the long run, I think his negatives outweigh his positives as he can confuse the game. I think that even if he's not a spawn this is a good place to start.

07-12-2006, 09:05 PM	#798
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	See, I'm in a bind now. I don't know who to vote for, and now that I'm a suspect, whoever I vote for needs to be spawn, or else it'll look like I'm trying to kill an innocent. If I abstain, that's just as bad. We really have almost no evidence to go on here. It's possible sndvls is an unaware spawn, but it seems more like the overlord was just messing with his head. So I'm going to keep reading until I figure out what to do in that arena. I like to think I've been pretty honest and forthright in this game so far, suggesting strategies when they seemed prudent. I tried to stop the captain from making a stupid mistake, I posted about guarding the essential areas, I made sure we would be on the way to having enough water. The only person who has played with me before is path12, who was on my team in a BGG To Crown a King game. I was a straight shooter there, and I'm surprised you don't recognize the same style here. -Talgian

07-12-2006, 09:06 PM	#799
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I can't be a spawn unless bullet is a lier?

07-12-2006, 09:06 PM	#800
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	UNVOTE TAGLAIN VOTE BLADE Still iffy on him since he was on the first away mission and would have been on this one if the spawn hadn't prevented us from doing so today. However, he is not likely to get lynched and Blade was my #2 guy. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

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