Giants Did Exist

tarcone · 09-30-2019, 07:46 PM

I was watching a show one time and they were talking about how the germanic tribes would see these massive structures in their land. They thought giants built them. But they were the aquaducts that the Romans built.

Science and magic are so cool.

NobodyHere · 09-30-2019, 08:12 PM

I really want to create a parody thread titled "The NY Giants Did Exist"

JonInMiddleGA · 10-01-2019, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I really want to create a parody thread titled "The NY Giants Did Exist"

I assumed that was going to be the gist of the o.p. honestly

Groundhog · 10-01-2019, 03:50 AM

I always liked the story of Xenophon the Greek visiting the ruins of Assyria centuries after they had been destroyed, and not having any idea who had built or lived in these cities. They far exceeded anything the Greeks had built in scale, and not even the locals knew anything about their origins.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-01-2019, 09:18 AM

Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast is something I was recently made aware of. I was massively late to the party, but I am loving the hell out of it, and he discusses stuff like this a lot.

JPhillips · 10-01-2019, 09:57 AM

There are giants in the sky
There are big, tall, terrible giants in the sky

tarcone · 10-01-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast is something I was recently made aware of. I was massively late to the party, but I am loving the hell out of it, and he discusses stuff like this a lot.

His 6 part series on WW1 is fantastic.

DanGarion · 10-01-2019, 06:25 PM

I watched the Dodgers all season, I disagree.

Groundhog · 10-01-2019, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast is something I was recently made aware of. I was massively late to the party, but I am loving the hell out of it, and he discusses stuff like this a lot.

Yep, it's excellent. Only podcast I listen to where I paypal a couple of bucks after every episode otherwise I feel like I'm stealing. Unfortunately I've listened to all the episodes now so I'm stuck waiting 9-12 months between release like all the other suckers.

I've always loved history but I never really had any interest in the post-medieval world except for specific events or nations, and Dan Carlin really changed that for me. The WW1 podcast in particular gave me a whole new appreciation for that war. - I had no idea how little I actually knew about it, outside of Australia's involvement at Gallipoli which if you went to school in Australia when I was growing up, you could be forgiven for thinking that was the sole major event of the war.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-01-2019, 07:46 PM

Yeah, after listening to a couple I ponied up the $70 to get the first 49 episodes, and I'm about 17 in right now - the Apache Tears episode is my current one, and it's simply phenomenal. Can't wait to get into the multi-part episodes.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-02-2019, 08:53 AM

So to earn my History BA from UC Santa Barbara, I had to write a 35-page "pro-seminar" paper. I focused my studies on Ancient Greece and Rome, and I titled my paper "Hello, my name is Alexander, and I am an alcoholic." It was a terrible piece of historical writing that started with what alcoholism might have looked like in antiquity, and sort of meandered its way toward a paper on what bias in primary sources looks like.

Imagine my surprise when I listened to episode 20 of Hardcore History and I hear Dan Carlin say "What if Alexander was a raging alcoholic?"

That was an extremely validating moment in my life, despite the amateurish nature of my paper back in the day

AnalBumCover · 10-03-2019, 09:35 AM

Y'all have piqued my interest. I've started the WWI episodes.

lungs · 10-03-2019, 09:52 AM

Count me in as another huge Dan Carlin fan. I've pre-ordered the audiobook to his new book coming out at the end of the month. Because I'm sure as hell not going to have any Dan Carlin material without him reading it to me!

tomeckhart · 10-03-2019, 08:49 PM

Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast is excellent.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2019, 09:32 PM

Sorry for the threadjack, tarcone

Groundhog · 10-03-2019, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs

Count me in as another huge Dan Carlin fan. I've pre-ordered the audiobook to his new book coming out at the end of the month. Because I'm sure as hell not going to have any Dan Carlin material without him reading it to me!

Part of me wonders if the audiobook will have 4x the word count of the book itself due to Carlin not being able to resist launching on tangents related to each chapter...

tarcone · 10-04-2019, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Sorry for the threadjack, tarcone

No worries. I like that the thread went to Dan Carlin. Pretty good evolution there.

May change the title from "Giants Did Exist" to "Giants Did Exist and it is Dan Carlins Podcast"

Radii · 10-04-2019, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Yeah, after listening to a couple I ponied up the $70 to get the first 49 episodes, and I'm about 17 in right now - the Apache Tears episode is my current one, and it's simply phenomenal. Can't wait to get into the multi-part episodes.

I did the exact same thing and have gotten so much more value out of it than $70, the Apache episode was gripping. I just finished... I'm around episode 27 or so? A lengthy 4 part series on the eastern front of World War 2 between Germany and Russia, something I didn't really know anything at all about from any history I ever took, and it was gripping and heartbreaking, damn.

HerRealName · 10-04-2019, 09:25 PM

Getting back to the original post, the Aztecs had a similar dynamic. This is just from memory so I likely have a few details wrong.

First of all, Archaeologists/Historians think the Aztecs came to Central Mexico from Northern Mexico/SW US. Casas Grande in No. Mexico may have been a previous settlement.

Something triggered a migration south (perhaps a drought?) and they wandered South stopping here and there. They gathered strength as mercenaries for more established tribes before moving further South. They eventually reach the Mexico City area and see these massive pyramids, temples and other structures left behind by the Mayans and Toltecs in the area to the East.

They eventually settle on the lake, starting as mercenaries once again. This time they stick around and eventually build an empire in Central Mexico. At this point, they (if I recall, it was really just a leader's brother) basically re-write their mythology and creation stories to paint themselves as the successors of the Toltecs thereby claiming the previous civilizations as their own.

tarcone · 10-04-2019, 09:53 PM

That Aztec story is interesting. And one that I would like to here more about.

I need to delve more into Dan Carlin. A WW2 podcast sounds like it is right up my alley.

This is the best thread ever. Both ancient theories and Dan Carlin. What better?

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Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast is something I was recently made aware of. I was massively late to the party, but I am loving the hell out of it, and he discusses stuff like this a lot.

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Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Yeah, after listening to a couple I ponied up the $70 to get the first 49 episodes, and I'm about 17 in right now - the Apache Tears episode is my current one, and it's simply phenomenal. Can't wait to get into the multi-part episodes.

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Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	So to earn my History BA from UC Santa Barbara, I had to write a 35-page "pro-seminar" paper. I focused my studies on Ancient Greece and Rome, and I titled my paper "Hello, my name is Alexander, and I am an alcoholic." It was a terrible piece of historical writing that started with what alcoholism might have looked like in antiquity, and sort of meandered its way toward a paper on what bias in primary sources looks like. Imagine my surprise when I listened to episode 20 of Hardcore History and I hear Dan Carlin say "What if Alexander was a raging alcoholic?" That was an extremely validating moment in my life, despite the amateurish nature of my paper back in the day

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AnalBumCover College Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: La Mirada, CA	Y'all have piqued my interest. I've started the WWI episodes.

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lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	Count me in as another huge Dan Carlin fan. I've pre-ordered the audiobook to his new book coming out at the end of the month. Because I'm sure as hell not going to have any Dan Carlin material without him reading it to me!

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Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Sorry for the threadjack, tarcone

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HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	Getting back to the original post, the Aztecs had a similar dynamic. This is just from memory so I likely have a few details wrong. First of all, Archaeologists/Historians think the Aztecs came to Central Mexico from Northern Mexico/SW US. Casas Grande in No. Mexico may have been a previous settlement. Something triggered a migration south (perhaps a drought?) and they wandered South stopping here and there. They gathered strength as mercenaries for more established tribes before moving further South. They eventually reach the Mexico City area and see these massive pyramids, temples and other structures left behind by the Mayans and Toltecs in the area to the East. They eventually settle on the lake, starting as mercenaries once again. This time they stick around and eventually build an empire in Central Mexico. At this point, they (if I recall, it was really just a leader's brother) basically re-write their mythology and creation stories to paint themselves as the successors of the Toltecs thereby claiming the previous civilizations as their own.

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